'Novara Media are spineless grifters'

[@jeanyves651]

Open Secrets "Margatet Hodge claimed that all profits she derived from her families South African business between 1973-1994 were given to charity. However, somewhat curiously, Hodge claims through her spokesperson not to have any recollection of the charities to which she donated her apartheid profits for a period of over 20 years.

[@Sha-Ayo]

Why do you think that is the case?

[@flyingfishnet]

@@Sha-Ayo selective dementia?

[@andrewwalsh2755]

"charities" + Zionists = tax dodge...

[@andrewwalsh2755]

Lies + Deceit + Dishonesty = Zionist

[@Spyhook]

because her real name is Oppemhiemer

[@versioncity1]

Novara are a bit like The Guardian 'of old' when they were more left than they are now. - However, in their defence, they, unlike lots of people who have youtube channels, are a business. Sometimes in journalism you have to make calculated decisions to avoid lawsuits, which for a small company like Novara, would wipe them out. Secondly, all those involved in Novara are relatively young and haven't come to it after years working for other companies where they have gleaned lots of experience. People make mistakes, errors, choices that seem poor in hindsight. Whether the points in this video are valid or not doesn't mean you should write them of across the board. In the current climate of news outlets like GB news and the more mainstream ones, they do provide a 'in-point' for many people who are seeking other perspectives.

[@Nine-Signs]

"Novara are a bit like The Guardian 'of old' when they were more left than they are now." Not in the slightest. Novara are like the Guardian of new, the Guardian post Snowden, post Greenwald, the guardian that lies like buggery on matters of foreign policy on behalf of British intelligence which Novara then repeats as factual because well... it came from the Guardian so it must be true eh. They are a centre left outfit that breaks to the centrist position when under any form of pressure to conform to official narratives. ------------------------- "However, in their defence, they, unlike lots of people who have KZbin channels, are a business" I know of myriad smaller channels with far less financial capacities who would never throw a credible source under the bus to appease a genocide appeaser, as Novara just did. ------------------------- "Sometimes in journalism you have to make calculated decisions to avoid lawsuits, which for a small company like Novara, would wipe them out." They have a minimum of 10,000 subscribers paying 5 a month = 50,000 a month / 600,000 a year. They have more than sufficient funding to fight spurious claims and if they are truly a left wing outfit would have no problem raising all the funds they need from their near 1 million KZbin subscribers. ------------------------ "Secondly, all those involved in Novara are relatively young and haven't come to it after years working for other companies where they have gleaned lots of experience. People make mistakes, errors, choices that seem poor in hindsight" They have been doing it for 10 f**king years. ----------------------- "Whether the points in this video are valid or not doesn't mean you should write them of across the board. In the current climate of news outlets like GB news and the more mainstream ones, they do provide a 'in-point' for many people who are seeking other perspectives." They legitimise GB news by going on there and de-legitimise the left by often taking middle of the road centrist positions for which the left then gets denigrated. All they are for GB news is piñata to beat talking mostly to gullible halfwits over 55.

[@MrPiccolop]

@@Nine-Signs yeah. Come to think of it I was surprised to see them accepting spots on GB news. I found it distasteful tbh. GB news is pure culture wars and FOX clone Murdoch nastiness and I think and feel you are exactly right. Their presence just served to legitimise GB news which was very odd. Co-incidentally, I think this was around the time I probably started reducing my NM exposure. I guess there's no such thing as bad marketing right? Which makes you question motives. Either they are already status quo or moving rapidly in that direction. Or were always there 🤷

[@petemarchetto4998]

But on the left we're obliged to seek for sources and fellow travellers who agree with every. Last. Single. Nuance of everything we think. The ideal world for us on the left is that if there are, say, ten million of us, then we should have ten million media sources to go to and ten million parties to vote for. That's how we operate... and, heaven knows, that's why we never get anywhere. BUT IT'S OUR TRADITION!

[@platosbeard4449]

@@Nine-Signsthank you for this thorough response to a fellow trying to aid NM in its misdirection of the left.

[@versioncity1]

@@petemarchetto4998 lol. You must be the leader of the People's Judean Front.

[@sparkle6093]

Gave up on NM when they were working against Jetemy Corbyn, Chris Williamson, Jackie Walker, Ken Livingstone and the list goes on...

[@andrewvallely9174]

Yup could smell the bull from them just prior to that, Novara were well out of depth on foreign conflicts, Micheal's hot takes on these subjects was painful to watch.

[@ramie237]

@@andrewvallely9174 That's what i sensed when i listened to them. Even before what happened with Corbyn.

[@annenunney9907]

Same here

[@SuperEarther]

@@andrewvallely9174 i stopped watching them when they supported the nato invasion of russia

[@beckyshah4600]

​​@@andrewvallely9174Michael Walker is awful. Very naive and ignorant on a lot of topics. Spineless is a spot on description for NM.

[@jakeywilliams]

Aaron Bastani co founder of NM. His wife is Charlotte Gerada, active supporter and campaigned for the proud zio.nist Starmer to be prime minister. She's Labour Councillor of South Shields ward plus close friend and associate of LFI member Stephen Morgan, MP of South Portsmouth. Her social media is one point of reference to her endorsement and friendship with Morgan. According to the published document by investigative journalist at Declassified UK, Morgan took £1,600 in funds from the Labour Friends of Izrael (LFI). Morgan's parliamentary records shows he didn't sign letter to suspend sales of arms to Izrael nor the letter to uphold ICC arrest warrants for Nuttyahu and Gallant. He even abstained from a ceasefire in Gaza.

[@abody499]

Isn't it Alan B'stard who's founder of NM?

[@jakeywilliams]

@@abody499 😅😅

[@michaelrch]

So wait, Aaron Bastani is a bad guy because he is married to someone who is in the same party who have money to a group you don't like? Kind of a reach don't you think?

[@L98fiero]

@@michaelrch Close friend pf someone like that is not much of a reach to anyone with an open mind and critical thinking skills.

[@michaelrch]

@@L98fiero so "associate" is now "close friend". This is McCarthyism, guilt by association. It's what you do when you have an agenda already and want to smear someone.

[@Kinbstdds]

Bless Tony, tells it like it is. Always worth listening to.

[@ivywild628]

Ken Livingstone ❤

[@annesaunders3851]

Slated for speaking the truth.

[@ZhTra]

Barnaby Raine has stopped appearing at NM and Mohammed el-Kurd asked to remove his interview with NM.

[@powderandpaint14]

@@ZhTra oh interesting, I didn't know that.

[@Pomegranate_David]

Really? Barnaby was always too good for Novara.

[@calumroche2851]

Where can we find Barnaby now?

[@ZhTra]

@@Pomegranate_David I think in one of Barnaby’s last appearances (1st November 2023) at NM he made a comment about Michael Walker’s political views.

[@ZhTra]

@@calumroche2851 He was literally yesterday at Stop the War Coalition event in London.

[@sparkle6093]

Novara want to be mainstream. 🤦‍♀️

[@MrPiccolop]

Playing the "radical" game to get "credibility" then switch... Or at least initially project as such ..

[@oneoflokis]

@@sparkle6093 Yes, they do I think!

[@moragmckay3779]

They want to get their important messages out to where they will make a difference. There is no reason to believe is superior about preaching to 5,000 like-minded people while Mainstream Media sells their biased disinformation to tens of millions who swallow it whole.

[@paulcoops6716]

@@oneoflokis I don't necessarily disagree. But I do think it may be a progression and not them counting money in a dark room and casting spells with a master plan. I wonder how many lefties on here would change their principles once in the headlights. Personally I don't care to be in them there headlights but things are a bit more messy than most lefties proclaim. But yes they smell a bit but who doesn't because morals are usually conducted when alone, not in the bright lights.

[@paulbangash4317]

Crispin , you are as genuine as they come. Thank you.

[@annenunney9907]

I agree

[@christinaheins407]

I recall Novara Media let us all down when it came to the crunch before. They do some good work, but they have repeatedly shown they lack real courage to stand up.

[@oneoflokis]

They DID however recently publish an article on their website, that the Guardian spiked. It is called: I Went to Gaza. What I Saw Was a Holocaust Unutterable destruction. by susan abulhawa.

[@lolo_bird]

Yeah it’s a great article

[@oneoflokis]

@@lolo_bird 💯👍

[@-jz5mm]

They've become a Vanity project unfortunately Much love and Solidarity to EI❤

[@fredfredrickson5436]

Sheparding op from the start. Those talking heads who the mainstream platforms are 100% captured, 100% of the time.

[@HBFaash]

NM, wrong on Corbyn, wrong on Ukraine, wrong on Galloway, wrong on Ann Applebaum, wrong on Medhurst et al, and many other subjects.

[@nickgethins4576]

@@HBFaash + wrong on Covid, more recently wrong on Salmond

[@oneoflokis]

What did they say about Richard Medhurst?

[@oneoflokis]

​@@nickgethins4576What did they say about Salmond?

[@margaretobrien2015]

​@oneoflokis They published a disgusting piece by some arsehole who said Alex Salmond was a sexual predator, a few days after the man died. Claimed he was guilty but got off with it because some bollocks about not enough evidence or some shit. A few years back, that lousy excuse for a journalist, Ash Sarkar, tweeted that Julian Assange was "a definite creep and a probable rapist". No retraction to my knowledge. Utterly clueless, spineless, pathetic shower.

[@ianpuddick]

Well said

[@petefraser3013]

I think Novara media are doing a better job than most.

[@nealwailing3870]

There has to be better targets in this crappy world....

[@starmersbarber]

I agree Pete. This attack on NM seems a bit bizarre. They have been very clear in their reporting and where they stand. Maybe they've had legal threats made against them and they've been forced to say something.

[@andrewwalsh2755]

Novara Media usually present a good, moral case for their point of view... It isn't a pure propaganda channel, like many today...

[@davidbates3057]

Yeah, there is some irony in a left leaning channel attacking another left leaning channel for ... attacking the left? Even the comments are completely disconnected. There are times I have disagreements with NM commentatror takes, but to suggest they worked against Jeremy Corbyn? You only have to do a search of Corbyn on their video channel to disprove such a ridiculous point. It's like half these people watched one video, found a couple of sentences they didn't entirely agree with, and then immediately went nuclear in believing these people were all their enemy. The Galloway comments also p!ss me off, because Crispin himself is at fault for that. Another ironic situation whereby they claimed NM did a hit on Galloway by presenting the interview in an intentionally bad light, as Crispin completely cherry picks cuts out of the interview to present it in the worst possible light. Aaron gave Galloway plenty of opportunity to clarify his position. He chose not to, for whatever reason, then complains he's been stitched up for having his exact words be presented as they were in a declaration worthy of Boris Johnson.

[@mariono8722]

I used to think so until I saw Michael Walker attacking Ash Sarkar in a very misogynist & racist way, straight after he had spent much effort criticising Ed Balls and others for the very same thing on a TV show that had shamelessly attacked MP Zahra Sultana! I need to find the KZbin clip and share it. Also, Michael Walker spoke rather disparagingly of "the left" on the same KZbin show. I find other presenters like Ash Sarkar and some others ok. But I felt really awful when Michael Walker attacked Ash the way he did, and still feel I should complain (but don't know how or who to complain to!). I was cringing inside and still cannot believe he did this to her for no reason 😟 I guess this taught me a lot about Michael Walker.

[@arandorapress7561]

I stopped watching them ages ago. I interviewed Aaron, who was quite patronising, and Grace Blakely, who is very pleasant but very keen on pointing out her own privilege. Bluntly, they are lining themselves up for mainstream jobs. My guess is they'll be quite right of centre in ten years time.

[@skyblazeeterno]

Blakeley is just white knighted because she's kind of cute. Not heard a single profound thing from her.

[@DavidL-i4j]

Novara Media are like a university debating society. I don’t think they like the working class much .

[@nickjanczak9665]

Or the elderly.

[@ProfessorChomsky]

You sound like you have zero understanding about class politics.

[@awotnot]

​@@ProfessorChomsky Then explain it to us Einstein. Damn posho

[@ProfessorChomsky]

@@awotnot You remember from history when "they" always came for the intellectuals and artists etc.? Work it out our kid. And all the best to you, genuinely, take care.

[@captainwin6333]

@@ProfessorChomsky 'They' wont be coming for you then.

[@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347]

I subbed to them when they first appeared on yt, didn't take me too long to unsub. Glad others see through them too.

[@folknboat69]

Good to see socialist solidarity is still strong.

[@manbearpig7521]

😂

[@herbert9241]

Pleases me to hear Novara called out for what they are.

[@moragmckay3779]

When did you last watch them? The criticisms are nonsense.

[@herbert9241]

@@moragmckay3779 - A few years ago, just before they shadow-banned me. The criticisms are spot on.

[@jamesboswell9324]

@@herbert9241 Interesting. They shadowbanned me too.

[@julietserpentin1491]

Novara are the English equivalent of the Young Turks in the US. Spineless in all directions.

[@wcfields547]

Not spineless you dozy mare just don’t agree with your right wing dings

[@kss987]

That is spot on actually

[@doreenchindezwa6319]

The only segment I watch on YT is Indisputable. Otherwise, Cenk and Anna are a joke

[@MrPiccolop]

That actually makes sense. Will Aaron turn into a screaming Cenk as he gets older? 😂😂

[@daveseville7394]

TYT is such a good parallel. Hasanabi too

[@vallaton7876]

Time for some infighting? I'm an anarchist and I watch and appreciate NM. I don't expect them to fulfill all my dreams, so I'm hard to disappoint. Sometimes I'll even watch the news on TV.

[@matt_cummins28]

Thanks! I've been looking for a reason to unsub NM for a while. This'll do nicely.

[@jonothonlaycock5456]

Agreed, NM they threw Electronic Intifada under the bus.

[@KidStarverHALVEDhisVote]

What did they do to EI?

[@jonothonlaycock5456]

​@KidStarverHALVEDhisVote they described Asa Winstalys article on EI as 'unreliable' in their apology

[@KidStarverHALVEDhisVote]

@jonothonlaycock5456 I'd say 'unbelievable!' but it's not is it, since the number they did on Galloway, any time I've listened to their news deliveries I've not hung around. Thanks for clarifying btw, Asa is a God compared to NM muppets.

[@oneoflokis]

​@KidStarverHALVEDhisVote Hasn't he been on their show though?

[@KidStarverHALVEDhisVote]

@@oneoflokis no idea

[@LegoLover-ij4gb]

They lost my subscription when they upset George Galloway.

[@JustinThorts]

Spot on about Novara !

[@Nine-Signs]

I funded Novara media for 7yrs. I finally had enough when they began to rampantly misreport on Ukraine while being in favour of arming funding and training far right Nazi groups, with content reporting on the conflict lacking all historical diplomatic context to such an erroneous degree that if I wanted to know their opinion of a matter of foreign policy but especially Ukraine, I need only consult the bloody guardian for exactly the same fault riddled analysis completely de-legitimised by verifiable recorded events over 30 years. I happened to tune in the other day the day after Iran's counter attack, my first viewing in a year, figured I may as well see what they said. Within the first 15 minutes Michael Walker had not only rampantly misreported statistics of the attack that matched the Guardians own faulty statistics but those statistics did not even match official passements of western intelligence services years prior never mind current via Iran itself. He went on to claim Iran fired a third of its ballistic missiles at Israel which is beyond ludicrous / easily proven totally false. And he then said he, little whitey comfy life Michael, could not understand what Iran got out of it, and that it was a largely failed attack. No consideration what so over of the hope given to millions of piss poor embattled brown people for Iran having done such, none. Then when it came to their reporting on the Niger uprising that was TRULY ABYSMAL. They read out no statements from the new civilian government, only reading out the official statements of the deposed western backed patsy government. They made absolutely no mention of WHY there was an uprising, no mention of 85% of the country not having any power while a third of French homes are powered by Niger Uranian, no mention at all about the country forced to use the colonial franc as its currency, no mention as all at France forcing Niger to sell them Uranian for 80cents a pound which France then resells for $200 a pound. i would email them once every 6 months to a year, just to politely ask that perhaps they could interview Richard Wolff on democratic enterprises, they never even bothered to dignify me with a reply of any form, despite this being a regular annual request. I even made it directly on twitter to Aaron, nothing but radio silence. These people are only left wing when convenient, they break to the centrist position when the pressure is on as can be seen from Aaron demanding Corbyn apologise for non antisemitic artwork in 2017, and their take on myriad matters not just the two I mentioned. You will notice as well that their subscribers have exploded over the last couple of years, funny that, almost like they represent no threat to the establishment and have been co-opted to a certain extent sufficient enough to reduce restraints on their channel that other systemically honest left wingers face regularly like Lee Camp for example. All complete and total bull by Novara on any matters beyond the end of their nose.

[@jackjude]

Russia has a well documented and tolerated extreme far-right demographic; within its borders and in the invading army. In Ukraine's perilous case, it's perhaps harder to discriminate against the politics of a cohort those willing to be killed defending their country, against the invasion of a neighbouring dictatorial super-power. .

[@Nine-Signs]

@@jackjude Erm... and that means something because? are the west arming and funding Russian far right groups? How about you get your head out of your arse before piping up in future eh.

[@MrPiccolop]

@@Nine-Signs I had exactly the same reaction with Democracy Now during the Tahrir uprising in Egypt during the Arab Spring. When it all kicked off in Libya and Syria they cheerleaded these interventions on when it was obvious it was a massive NATO attack on Libya and then tried the same in Syria. When they provided massively legitimisation for this I knew they were either ignorant of what was going on or worse complicit. The unfortunate side effect either way was legitimisation and mischaracterization for left leaning folks in the West of what was going on. I switched off then and still don't go near them as these countries are now destroyed and countless lives ruined.

[@Nine-Signs]

​@@jackjude 1. If you can tell me where the west are arming funding and training far right actual Nazi Russian brigades you will have a point, but even then not a good one given two wrongs would not make a right. 2. You said: "it's perhaps harder to discriminate against the politics of a cohort those willing to be killed defending their country," Reply: These groups have been embedded through ought Ukraine's military, governmental, and intelligence apparatus for DECADES. there was no war there prior to 2014 so drop that bullshit excuse, it has more holes in it than Swiss cheese. That and the government has no trouble at all discriminating against the politics of a cohort as that is THE ENTIRE REASON THIS CONFLICT BEGAN via the new western backed government clamping down hard on its eastern Russian speaking population, on their traditions, their language. All while the far right militias that aided in the 2014 coup were put in charge of those eastern regions by the western backed government and dutifully randomly brutalised the population until they broke away in civil war at which point those right wing government backed militias began shelling the shit out of them for 8 years with a recording of the western backed Ukrainian president in 2015 available publicly where he literally states his open intentions to do so to please his political base while campaigning. "our children will go to school, theirs will hide under their beds, that is how we will win" 3. You have a real curious definition of dictatorial and superpower given a) The Russians spent 8 years bending over backwards diplomatically in effort to both end the western created civil war raging in Ukraine since 2014 and deal with NATO for profit expansions simultaneously, while the west bent over backwards to destroy every agreement made in effort to ensure Russia would feel it had no choice left but to invade in order to force a resolution at the diplomatic table, which they then did and it worked a treat, all signed and done by the end of April 2022. It was the UK that ensured that peace agreement was destroyed by Zelensky, on behalf of the USA to ensure for profit capitalist NATO expansions continue. A peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine that would not have cost Ukraine an inch of its connected landmass, nor the life of a soldier, nor any gold, to implement, that would have maintained Ukraine's neutrality and sovereignty. Doesn't sound like a dictator to me nor to anyone with a critically thinking well informed brain cell. b) As for a superpower. In what? it is a great power not a super power. China and the USA are superpowers with their economies being 6 to 8 times larger where as Russia's economy is more along the lines of a developed European economy. So no, it is not a superpower contrary to general mythology seemingly coming from John Mearsheimer who while correct about some things is wrong about a great many things due to his antiquated understanding of the world and his complete and total ignorance in understanding economics and human behaviours that result.

[@manbearpig7521]

Great analysis.

[@JohnHersey-eh4su]

Thanks for the heads up. Feel a right mug for surporting NM

[@annenunney9907]

We live and learn do not feel bad about it

[@YalleryBrown]

Anybody remember NV's stance on Julian Assange?

[@paulmccabe2966]

They, like a lot of the London based media glitterati ignored the Assange case. The so=called liberal left and the conservatives of talk radio, tv and online pretended it wasn't happening or wasn't important.

[@TREVORALLMAN]

Just had a quick look online, and on 15.4.2019, Sarkar wrote an article called "Julian Assange and The Problem of Solidarity" in which she argued Julian should be extradited to Sweden to answer for the alleged rape claims as it is a feminist issue. Oddly, Sarkar doesn't appear to be so concerned about women when it comes to transvestites going into women-only spaces. Looking at some more recent stuff, NM appear to be more supportive of Julian Assange. I suspect they moved with public opinion.

[@YalleryBrown]

They stopped having Galloway on because he supported Assange. NV fell for the state's trick of if you wish to discredit somebody with the left intelligensia then make it a sexual crime against women, rape if possible. They fell for it. Unbelievable they couldn't see what was going on.

[@flowsnake8732]

​@@TREVORALLMAN if you were genuinely just concerned about (cis) women's only spaces, you'd have said trans women. Saying transvestites just reveals your bigotry against trans women

[@davidbates3057]

@@paulmccabe2966 Oh really?

[@whiskeyclone1]

Novara Media, literally Centrists!

[@stevieporteous]

And yet literally self confessed communists...

[@whiskeyclone1]

@@stevieporteous I think you didn't catch the irony of my comment!

[@stevieporteous]

@@whiskeyclone1 nice try but no.

[@skyblazeeterno]

​@@stevieporteousAsh is as much a communist as I'm a rocket scientist guitar hero world renowned raconteur and philosopher

[@Pomegranate_David]

Watching Novara Media during the Gaza genocide leaves me cold. At least Owen Jones shows he cares at the minimum.

[@nolongerinbetween3913]

what are you smoking bro?

[@Pomegranate_David]

@@nolongerinbetween3913 Care to elaborate?

[@nolongerinbetween3913]

@@Pomegranate_David There's not much to elaborate. Their incessant coverage of the genocide in Gaza is just amazing. The idea that they just utter facts and there's no emotion behind their words is ridiculous. Michael Walker is genuinely shaken by what's happening to the Palestinians and he obviously cares. They might not be as passionate as Owen Jones, Lowkey, etc but this doesn't make their coverage dispassionate.

[@Pomegranate_David]

@@nolongerinbetween3913 Well I'm sure they feel empathy for the Gazans but their journalistic coverage is still pretty superficial and they don't leave the studio to do any real investigative work with activists on the ground. They also don't interview any of the Palestinians and Arab commentators like Owen does at times. They never covered the British journalists and activists have been arrested for their unfiltered coverage of what is happening in Gaza and the region.

[@richiethepooh6878]

​@@Pomegranate_DavidThat comment about not interviewing Palestinian and Arab commentators just shows you do not know what you're talking about. I've completely lost count of how many they've had on!! They've literally had a specific British-Palestinian guest (with family in Gaza and west bank who's lost countless family members) on multiple times. These two cranks on this video are talking out of their arses

[@psstblue]

Never trusted them

[@aliali-yj6pt]

they had me for a while

[@moviemakerjo6756]

I came across them eight years back. they were lying about Syria and supporting criminals/isis/alqueda... they promote lies and misinform by obfuscation... never got into their neoliberal propaganda.. based on 12 minutes of their deception.. I'm stunned anyone gives time to their nonsense..

[@dglenday8705]

@@moviemakerjo6756 That neoIiberal propaganda is all around us, like Oxygen, and just as difficult to see. However, once discovered it becomes impossible to un-see it.

[@michaelrch]

So glad to see sensible and nuanced discussion amongst those on the left as usual /s Novara obviously faced a very expensive libel suit and chose to save their money for their actual work rather than lawyers. I can't imagine their subscribers would have been impressed if they blew a years' budget on fighting a losing court case. You can have your disagreements with them without assuming that they are dishonest grifters FFS. I daresay they regret their takes on some things but have you never been wrong about anything, ever?

[@josephfredbill]

So did Owen Jones at one point. Fortunately he learned

[@oneoflokis]

👍

[@Dischordian]

OJ is absolute scum. He learned how to switch sides when needed that's all.

[@annenunney9907]

I think Owen is doing very well

[@josephfredbill]

@@annenunney9907 I agree now. He was once involved in an anti-Corbyn plot. Eventually he saw the error of his ways, confessed and reformed. Nothing bad to say about him now - we all deserve one mistake. I knew his mother years ago (taught in the same uni dept.) - she was a good one too.

[@annenunney9907]

@@josephfredbill thanks for your comment

[@owenflemming6947]

Someone actually calling out Novara media...WoW! It's long overdue imo.. Give up on them long ago when I realised they only catered to the latest fad ... Spineless is a too kind a terminology for these people

[@nodgelyobo1]

Like him or loathe him, but they threw George Galloway under the bus.....Champagne socialists!

[@Friday..1.7]

I needed to know this. I was aware of NM standing against ken livingstone and i forgot the name of the other gentleman. I subbed back to NM over their gaza reporting yet still had strong suspicions. Ty for bringing this journalism to us all.

[@JoeBlogs-if-]

Stopped watching them about a month after finding them, when i realised the fed on others articles and where more into sensationalism.

[@sarahpengelly8439]

A lot of bad blood on this channel. If people are going to critisise then be loud about Sky or GB News. Protest outside the BBC... If you dont like Novara or others then don't watch them.

[@mgg7756]

Sky news? that's shooting a fish in a barrel. We all knows it's crap, what value would we take from that? If these things avoid NM are true the criticism is more than well deserved. It's good to know who not to support.

[@minekara6407]

Stopped watching novarro after their Galloway interview with bastani. I realised they were ghastly bunch of handwaving bores with posh living rooms

[@norman7527]

Yes, exactly what I did too after that disgusting show, but I was already getting really fed up with NM even before that interview

[@oneoflokis]

They live in rented accommodation though. They keep saying so.

[@flowsnake8732]

​@@oneoflokisAaron says he now owns his own house. The others are still renting

[@flowsnake8732]

Also, the term "ghastly bores" seems frightfully posh to me, old bean ;)

[@MeleanDialogue]

I really like that, spot on

[@huwdavies561]

Never heard about this till now, but stopped my Novara payment for other reasons. Aaron Bastani obsessed with Farage. They are upper middle class left journalists needing a career.

[@stardust5467]

Middle class, not upper.

[@Nine-Signs]

How do you confuse upper class and left wing, for the reality of them being middle class and centre left to centrist depending on the issue.

[@huwdavies561]

I don't confuse. Both factors are independent of each other. I said upper middle class . Anyway not very relevant

[@huwdavies561]

Nm are saying a lot of good things but acting with total integrity. I can live with that. I subscribe again now but don't contribute financially

[@santinopaone-hoyland]

Farage is the most popular politician in the country, should Bastani ignore him?

[@doreenchindezwa6319]

I'm glad i stumbled upon you tonight. I used to listen to Novara briefly when i stumbled upon them but for some reason they couldn't keep me glued and i haven't tuned in for a long time now.

[@rogerboniface8086]

I told NM directly they need a pair a long time ago They support the Fascist in Ukraine.

[@rafthejaf8789]

Exactly.

[@Paul-md8de]

What Fascist in Ukraine ? there's a Fascist trying to invade , named potin

[@stephencunningham6557]

​@@Paul-md8deYour knowledge sits just below amoeba level.

[@Paul-md8de]

@@stephencunningham6557 You're the perfect example of why the "left" has never held power in this country and never will thankfully

[@captainwin6333]

@@Paul-md8de Zelensky and the Ukrainian nationalists.

[@chipwalter4490]

Novara is very Similar to AOC in the United States..they are they worst kind of infiltrators

[@carollaughlin3983]

good bye from me Novara

[@jamesboswell9324]

Ditto.

[@bunchie1966]

They often appear as wishy-washy liberals.

[@dglenday8705]

They're wishy-washy NE0liberals !

[@stevieporteous]

They are communists

[@brookeconroy6227]

People need stop moaning about the left attacking NM all the time. We're not on the same side. NM aren't left wing. They're liberals. Liberals are right wing. It's a simple fact. Corbyn is hardly Lenin and yet he was too left wing for half of them.

[@Nine-Signs]

If only liberals WERE right wing, at least they would have some consistency. Liberals are not right wing, never have been, never will be. They are centrists, centrists exist, they are their own unique political group.

[@davidbates3057]

If people have legitimate criticism then I'm all for it. But honestly,as somebody who considers themselve son the left, and who watches Novara as my main source of UK news, the comments in this section are baffling. Since when was Corbyn too far left for them? They've constantly sung his praises. Yes, they've criticised some of his campaigning choices -- which I think is completely fair -- but to suggest for a second they treated him like the mainstream media in terms of lying about anti-sem, crying about his takes on I R A dealings in the past etc, etc, is just fantasyland. Correct me if I'm wrong, but were they not the ones that broke the Labour Files that revealed the plotting against Corbyn? And hell, I just did a search for Corbyn in their video channel and the first video is "The Plot Against Corbyn Revealed". There's also "Watch this POWERFUL Defence of Corbyn", and there are two videos of Aaron interviewing Corbyn, all on the first page. I'm seeing comments about them criticising Ken Livingstone -- complete news to me. I know they did an interview with George Galloway where Galloway completely hung himself, but they just interviewed the guy, giving him more than fair opportunity to correct his position. It seems like what a lot of you want is a Fox News of the left, in which case you're borderline in the same bubble mindset ofd Brexiteers/MAGA. Then there's the calling out of their coverage of Ukraine and Gaza. What have they done wrong in this exactly? Their coverage on the horrors in Gaza is second only to Owen Jones whose made it his main mission to get information out there. Regarding Ukraine, it seems like many here want them to attack Ukraine? If that's the case, I have no understanding of that whatsoever. There's plenty of criticism to be had that there isn't enough diplomatic efforts and the oligarchy are stoking that conflict intentionally to drain Russia economically, but the idea that Ukraine defending itself is the bad thing is literal QAnon mindset. So no, I'm not moaning if you want to "attack" NM (I would use the term criticise personally, but if you feel so strongly you need to "attack" then you're probably identifying a major problem people have around here). But I'll damn well criticise those of you who pretend to be on the left if you're biggest motivation is to spend your time bringing down others working on the left in any capacity, small or large, whether they are moderate left, left leaning centrists, unions, or Just Stop Oil, because there are far bigger enemies out there to be taking on, this current Tory-Labour Government being one of them.

[@tonyclayton6975]

@@davidbates3057If you don’t know what the issue is with Novara’s coverage of the war in Ukraine then that highlights the problem and why their interview of Galloway was a hit piece. Exactly why in your view did Galloway need to correct the record? His socially conservative views are personal to him and his religion.

[@santinopaone-hoyland]

NM are right wing? 😂😂😂😂

[@manbearpig7521]

❤❤❤❤

[@lynnbraben76]

Just when I think NM might be growing a pair, they do this. Who needs enemies!!

[@fredfredrickson5436]

They are not now, nor have they ever been, your friends.

[@jamesboswell9324]

Seriously, what actually caused you to think they were growing anything, let alone a pair?

[@karenwilson5518]

Well done Crispin

[@tiggtiggs]

NM represent the 'chattering class' who can afford principles until, their status is threatened. They're a release valve for the middle class, pearl clutcher's.

[@manbearpig7521]

Exactly

[@shomulder6854]

💯💯💯

[@Rebelconformist82]

Id like to see what NM have to say about this

[@oneoflokis]

Would be interesting! 👍

[@josephinebrevig8748]

Me too

[@GeordiLaForgery]

Thanks Crispin abd Tony

[@jinxterx]

Their apology looks like it was written by the Israelis.

[@EightFrancs]

It was.

[@michaelrch]

It was written by lawyers to avoid a very expensive libel suit. I'm fairly sure their audience would prefer they do that that burn a years' budget fighting a losing court case.

[@paulrussell9667]

It seems to me left wing attacking left wing, which helps none of us lefties.

[@casteretpollux]

NM is a fake left operation

[@flowsnake8732]

Certainly doesn't help when antigenocide people attack antigenocide people. I'm not disagreeing, just broadening it out. Alan Duncan, Peter Oborne, Crispin Blunt - all right wing, all antigcide

[@Ismisha]

I think you're confusing Liberals and the Left

[@paulrussell9667]

@@Ismisha I am not, but you are entitled to your opinion.

[@fredfredrickson5436]

@Ismisha They aren't honest political commentators, they're obvious political subversives. If the lesson of Starmer has taught you nothing else, it should have at least taught you where the establishment cuckoo likes to lay its eggs.

[@ianweniger6620]

A bit of history... i recall the ANC leadership secretly chose to reject nationalization of major industries during negotiations with the apartheid regime to release Mandela. Once released, Mandela used his celebrity to tell investors that their money was safe in a "non-racial" SAfrica and reject suppress popular demands for justice via expropriation. Mandela's release still caused white flight and the ANC leaders chose to recruit as many wealthy white supporters. They needed proof of economic stability so they could attract more foreign money to expand national infrastructure. Millions of people who never had access to the modcons of white people needed services and they weren't going to grow on trees. The idea of members of the Lubner family, well-connected sanctions-breakers and financiers of Zionism, being anointed by Mandela himself as a part of the new "non-racial" SAfrica seems quite plausible. I can only imagine the reactions of ANC organizers and supporters who recognized these criminals as they took their places in a government that was supposed to bring justice for all. Hard to believe but harder to understand why NM can't openly believe in double agents. I didn't know Asa Winstanley doubled down on his Lubner exposé. Maybe that's why the cops raided him and took his gear. And maybe Starmer sent a message through Aaron Bastani's partner that NM would face a similar fate if they didn't apologize.

[@richardwilliams8953]

Not a surprise, when they stitched up George Galloway I immediately cancelled my subscription with NM as they revealed themselves to be grifters - particularly the Bastani character, who is probably the worst of them.

[@jamesboswell9324]

The mid-election timing of the attack on Galloway was especially revealing.

[@rogerboniface8086]

They did there bit for their masters by trying to entrap Galloway in an interview.

[@santinopaone-hoyland]

Who are their masters? Aren't they funded by supporters?

[@TheDominicProject]

Says a Galloway fan? He did well in that interview, they asked fair questions. There are some very problematic elements to Galloway too. This is childish dismissal. It's not like he got a fair punt on TV

[@GraphicalRanger]

@@TheDominicProject They did not ask fair questions at all. They kept harping on about modern woky rainbow arts and wouldnt move on.

[@TheDominicProject]

@@GraphicalRanger I think your answer says it all. Enjoy the Matrix

[@johnmacward]

@@GraphicalRanger Or what some people call human rights and non bigoted fights. Galloway is the weirdest lefty that's ever existed.

[@flyingfishnet]

Walker looks as sneaky as he is. He’s the sort of chap you could rely on to slip out to the toilet when it’s his turn to get the round. They’re all middle class pretending to stand up for the poor, who they despise. Just like Orwell said.

[@ProfessorChomsky]

What's being middle-class got to do with anything? And how do they "despise" "the poor"?

[@flyingfishnet]

@@ProfessorChomsky . Read Orwell . He explains it better than I can. But here’s roughly what I mean. There’s a large proportion of untouchables, who have so little in the way of prospects they quite reasonably (in my opinion) wonder how it is that there seems to be no problem providing services for people immigrating here. Instead of standing up for these people they are labelled racists and far right. You can bet your last quid that everyone one in novara media goes back home to their nice neighbourhood and some good food imagining that if only these stupid people would see how the class struggle will free every one……….. Don’t get me wrong. I’m way past looking at immigration, or class politics. What humanity collectively faces makes this almost irrelevant. And I’m also middle class (although I’ve spent my life as a builder) , and I understand exactly why animal farm is so relevant…………..

[@flowsnake8732]

​@@flyingfishnetI don't think Novara were going when Orwell was writing, although I could be mistaken. Also, "he's the sort of chap you could rely on to slip out..." does sound frightfully, how shall I say, posh? Lol

[@annenunney9907]

@@ProfessorChomskywell they do not like the old

[@kenjack6674]

Yes they are , absolutely shameless they are ..cant abide them , two runts.

[@jcoprario967]

free your mind from centrism, unsubscribe from norovirus media!

[@kwakkers68]

+1!

[@Archie460]

I've just unsubscribed from NM ✊

[@elmaestroco]

As mentioned below, I also believe Novara Media is doing a better job than most. I'm going to need more than that to classify them as centrist or 'grifters'. Sure, they are not the most radical. They aren't the Grayzone, but they are also not the Majority Report or others. I find them reliable for the 'most' part; that's why you should not rely on a single source of info, whatever the source is. Reply

[@loquek]

If this is the way you steer people in the right direction when they have done wrong, you'll struggle to steer anyone

[@oneoflokis]

True!

[@Archie460]

Wow 😮I'd no idea Novara media took this stand, Mmmm I might have to rethink my Novara subscription!

[@callyyeadon2653]

Sorry I’m old & just want you young people to sort things out before I die 😊

[@mirakbar9029]

I agree with you. The way they harassed and spread misinformation about George Galloway, I was disgusted. shame on Bastani and others.

[@sueyourself5413]

That's just because they're celtophobic.

[@bryanbadonde9484]

What misinformation? You can't mean the interview he did with them surely? Hoist himself with his own petard in that one - his own words.

[@moragmckay3779]

Galloway has turned into a disgusting, bigoted, arrogant character in recent years, to my horror, after years of defending him vociferously in the past.

[@DrDonnyTheBookofYou]

well, galloway going all transphobic, he didn't help himself. Also, i STRONGLY feel he is acting the way he does from childhood trauma, he said he was raped as a kid. But I doubt he's ever gotten 5 full seconds of therapy.

[@johnmacward]

Maybe you're too old to see what's wrong with Galloway but he's turned into a cult leader that's obsessed with catholicism and not being gay / trans. He's the most right wing lefty on the planet.

[@davidshaw123451001]

The irony of this video made me smile. If you were dumb enough to debate one of them you'd be taken apart.

[@massgeneral9873]

"Backbone of a constipated worm." Perfect.

[@4imagesmore]

Weathervanes, like Owen Jones and Monbiot. Pleased to see Roger Hallam call out Bastani for being yellow, too.

[@DrSpooglemon]

I think Jones has come a long way these past few years and Monibot is OK for a liberal but NM are underhand sneaks.

[@cherrycupcake6327]

Long ago I realised Novara Media was questionable!!

[@kwakkers68]

Boycott NM!

[@SThrillz]

They are 100% gatekeepers

[@ivywild628]

Brilliant Info❤

[@maryamsukaynah559]

Novara Media are principal less. Shameless against JC.

[@MJB0110]

Respect guys. Thx for standing your ground and standing up for the truth. It’s so disappointing re: Novara Media.

[@andrewcadby]

8:45 Hmmm. Surely NM will have made this apology on the advice of their lawyers. Perhaps they could have fought it, but perhaps it would have cost an enormous amount of money to do so.

[@breohtbrusmid489]

So glad to hear someone reveal NM for what they are. Not to mention that Kavernackle kid 😂 Ridiculous grifters the lot of em!

[@oneoflokis]

I keep wondering why the latter has named himself after something sounding like the KKK...

[@tomwright4969]

Went off kavernacle after coming to the impression he was extremely arrogant, always saying how "right" he is.

[@oneoflokis]

@@tomwright4969 I think that lots of people on the "opinion-former" left (and the right) think that! 😏 Did he ever explain how he came to his channel name??

[@ja9.b73]

I like Kavernackle. He is often very insightful and also good at tieing apparently disparate topics together. Yeah, I get he can seem full of himself at times but I think he is also being a bit tongue-in-cheek and some miss that he is being humorous. Although, fair enough if that's not your thing. But why do you think he is a grifter? I don't get the impression that he is a clout chaser nor that he is not being sincere. He seems to genuinely care.

[@tomwright4969]

@oneoflokis I agree with most of what he says, but the constant "told you sos" get very tiresome and self-aggrandising.

[@unchattytwit]

Gave up on Novara Media, and most of its presenters, when they facilitated the antisemitic lies. One has to wonder what they're actually doing and who they actually represent. A lot of people were made mugs, and still are, for supporting NM. Paul Mason lite.

[@DrSpooglemon]

They are Labour party operatives organised around damage control. Pretending to defend Corbyn while giving credence to the antisemitism smears and throwing many of his allies under the bus. Claiming to be "literally communist" while showing themselves to be the biggest establishment liberals outside the MSM.

[@breohtbrusmid489]

They secretly work for the Labour party i'll bet.

[@GuntD-rz1xb]

@@breohtbrusmid489 and the security services, I wouldn’t doubt.

[@MrPiccolop]

I just organically shifted from them about a year ago. Just seemed hollow.

[@belverticale]

@@GuntD-rz1xb ..just like Mason the spook himself.

[@Jean-rg4sp]

*I was never sure what to think of NM and after this they bear critical watching.*

[@displacednaija]

I thought it was just me. Yes they are spineless bourgeois wannabes.

[@sisi2484]

Love Tony 👍

[@groundhogday37]

The evil tentacles have spread everywhere, how high does it go in the Labour party ?

[@andersstook3273]

I agree 100%!

[@phoenixorion5427]

Unfortunately this is the truth. Novara are the UK's TYT, which is sad because I once had high hope for these masqueraders.

[@adrianthornton8288]

Aaron Bastani loves wearing a copyrighted Marx t-shirt...enough said.

[@Zeitaluq]

Very knowledgable man appreciate his investigative journalism

[@orpheusthelyre7520]

The islamophile piece on the Bradford 'rooming gangs was vile

[@FeedthePigeons]

I can't watch NM anymore but surely this apology was a legally forced one, through court? Whether right or wrong, maybe they had no choice but to publish this one?

[@ronaldoferreira594]

About NOVARA: I feel the same way! #LONGLIVERESISTANCE

[@nodgelyobo1]

Champagne socialists!

[@astridrichardson664]

South Africa had National Service enforced like IDF

[@MT-kx2uc]

I think a lot of you have never watched NM.

[@margaretobrien2015]

I have and they were shit.

[@MrPiccolop]

I used to watch them a lot but there are much better and genuine commentators out there.

[@beckyshah4600]

I still do just to see what they say but am reaching my limit so will stop soon. They've been awful for a long time and are getting worse. I feel like they want to rival the BBC so have become just as Bland, Boring and Centrist. I learn nothing from them at all.

[@willowbell3756]

I've only known of Novara over the last year and all the presenters do my head in. They are really in to the Greens in Bristol and have been here a lot recently. I didn't vote but the Greens are useless, Bristol City Council is still under Marvin's thumb and he's the toss pot who insulted the Greens all the time in meetings. I don't really care about Novara but glad someone else is annoyed with them. Britain (M16) hates Mossad as well, too much competition, that's not to say they don't work with them mind. Nobody would recognise a Jew if one hit them in th eface, they are all western now, apart from a couple of sects. I heard Asa saying about the definition of a Semite and it is a construct made up by Britain, whereas I think a Semite is a person who speaks a Semitic language, and Hebrew is too adulterated by Yiddish. I've argued this with BBC R4 for years.

[@andyhodchild8]

Excellent account of things I was unaware of, nice chap.

[@fellowcitizen]

Controlled Opposition paired with Triggernometry for corralling for 5e/MIC

[@darrenmonsiegneur5310]

Thank you

[@michaelrch]

So glad to see sensible and nuanced discussion amongst those on the left as usual /s Novara obviously faced a very expensive libel suit and chose to save their money for their actual. I can't imagine their subscribers would have been impressed if they blew a years' budget on fighting a losing court case. You can have your disagreements with them without assuming that they are dishonest grifters FFS. I daresay they regret their takes on some things but have you never been wrong about anything, ever?

[@anonanon6369]

Bravo!

[@kellieyang77]

Havent watched since they had nominki konst on. That told me everything

[@nolongerinbetween3913]

This is such a nice place for people disconnected from reality...

[@ryanm7097]

I knew I couldn't trust Novara when they continued to platform the likes of Matt Binder and Mehdi Hasan. Cancelled my donations just over 2 months ago and don't regret it.

[@joyduncan9434]

Matt Binder from The Majority Report is so cringe.

[@r-Justice1421]

Thank you. Shame on novara