Novation Circuit Rhythm vs Tracks

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00:00 Intro
00:41 What’s the same?
01:18 What’s not the same?
01:39 Synth patches
02:33 Sample flip
03:42 Mapping and processing samples
06:46 Monophonic vs polyphonic
09:28 Building full tracks
10:19 Sample chop
10:57 Target demographics
12:19 Sidechain, scales, and grid FX
13:38 Inputs and outputs
14:46 Connectivity: Circuit Tracks
17:35 Connectivity: Circuit Rhythm
20:19 Overview
21:51 Outro
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[@mightyshenanigans2607]

The value this guy provides is insane!

[@devondetroit2529]

Value? KZbin videos are free

[@acaposotta]

I agree! I own almost all the machines he has got and as an expert I still feel inspired by him may times. Great videos. Just a curiosity: I’ve been always wondering where he’s from. His accent sounds perfect for me. For a non English speaker like me it’s a pleasure to watch videos with a perfect spoken English. Many great KZbinrs have a strong or strange accent and it’s a little hard sometimes to hear them for many minutes. Not the case here, very relaxing and clear!

[@josephmamah4124]

There should be a circuit beat that has 50/50 split of both features, like 4 sample tracks like the rhythm and 2 synth and 2 midi like the tracks

[@RomanWave]

Thank you, very clear comparison! Exactly what I was looking for to understand the difference.

[@Viennatom.]

Dear Gabe, thank you for this great explanation of these two Novation devices. You were the only one who showed me these differences between this gears in such a short time. It was very helpful for me, THANK YOU! Best greetings from Vienna.

[@AA-do3wb]

Wow! Thank you man. Wish you all the best.

[@robertbecker3595]

awesome video amazing detail and clarity - thanks

[@benjaminbrodie9801]

Excellent demo Gabe! You sold me on the Rhythm. Cheers!

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Glad to help!

[@KeithMeyer214]

Congratulations on the sponsorship! I needed this video, just a simple compare and contrast. :)

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Novation keep a eye on all socail Media in regards to there company. They pay attention to critics and use the info to creat better products.

[@ilikeitdark13]

Damn, that was fantastic...might be the best comparison I have ever watched...thanks!

[@stevenharris7862]

brilliant pal appreciate the time you take to advise, you have such an in depth knowledge and understanding

[@baqcasanke]

Gabe even likes comments on videos that are over a year old. What a champ!

[@jmichell1880]

Very helpful breakdown. I ended up getting a circuit tracks, bc I can connect it via USB to an android running Koala Sampler and basically have a close enough hacked version of the circuit Rhytm for my needs but with unlimited sample time, Koala's amazing Samurai chopping mode, hands-on cropping with a little waveform visualization, etc etc but most impotent to me: POLYPHONIC chromatic pitched keyboard instantly for every sample as one of the Midi tracks. It's unreal that a $13 pro version of an android app ticks off so many "wish list for a future firmware update" items. Take note gear manufacturers! 🙂

[@ca7582]

Dude. Astounding comment, much appreciated, I'll do the exact same thing!!

[@truthseeker3907]

Thank you Gabe Miller and Thumbs up! 👍

[@baltimega]

I love that there are stereo inputs on the rhythm. I often use the iPad as a sound source for the tracks, so I use the iPad as stereo with the midi controlling synths in AUM, then I put the audio out from the tracks into the rhythm and use them both as one machine. The circuit is master clock for the rhythm and I have program change on so when I select a project slot on the circuit it selects the same one on the rhythm. Then I have the circuit going through the sp 404 for additional live effects, sometimes recording, or compression

[@_P_M_]

I picked up a Rhythm due in large part to this channel. It's a new way of working for me but I really like it. I was eyeballing a Volca Sample2, but really wanted sampling and chopping. The MPC One was too much of a workstation, with more features than I wanted to deal with and higher cost. Circuit Rhythm was right in the sweetspot. Very impressed with the build quality. Very solid and knobs and buttons are great to work with. MIDI In, Out,Thru full size MIDI jacks is great. Wish list so far would include; Time-stretching, a screen-saver mode, Linux support for the Components app.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

ThevMininova has the same sounds as the Trackd. So The Rythem wins, you will get all of the sounds and you can make samples from the Mininova. There all in the £300 $350 price range.

[@scorpthe]

I have both of them but love Rhythm way more. Advantages of Rhythm: 1. Sampling synths without keyboard. With Rhythm you can trigger notes via MIDI from any portable external desktop synth e. g. Typhon (!) while recording a sample (!) Assign synth to a specified MIDI channel, pick blank sample, enable threshold mode, press rec, go to notes page, trigger sounds and press stop. You can also sequence sounds from external synth via MIDI and resample this. 2. Lack of polyphony is not an issue when you have resampling. Even your mono synth can now sound like a poly. Also theoretically you can build up a bunch of 8-note chords using 8 tracks, resample it and use these huge chords on each of 8 tracks then resample and so on... 🙃🙂 3. Granular synthesis. 4. Circuit R is simply standalone. Circuit T forces you to use laptop to make new synth patches and load samples. Small disappointments in Rhythm: 1. Lack of "time stretching with no pitch changing". 2. Start and length in "loop sample mode" are not smooth enough to sync a points and prevent a click. Crossfade function would be even better. 3. Lack of stereo recording.

[@jesseberner9462]

Great vid man, thanks so much!!! suuuuppeerrr helpful

[@markkilley2683]

Your reviews of gear is enjoyable. So much so I bought something. Now I have to actually use it.

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Glad they've been enjoyable/helpful!

[@terraperrosabio2539]

Super helpful, Thanks !!

[@montorgueilrecords]

Excellent! as usual! I need to buy me one ! 😃

[@ChromaticFarmer7]

The Rhythm speaks to me, I mostly play piano and bass running through a mixer and some pedals. Having something to loop tha with and add some drums to sounds like a dream. If only the midi out was polyphonic so I could add a desktop synth without the need for a midi controller further down the line.

[@aseeon]

Thank you for this video. I really needed this, almost dived into buying both but it seems both of them are not quite there for me! Keep up the good work!

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Best choice for you is to buy the Rythem and a Mininova. You will have all the same sound possibility without having two machines that look the same.

[@aseeon]

@@HOLLASOUNDS Since i have issues with both of them (Rhythm and Tracks) - I don't think I will be buying any one of them

[@__Jan___]

You getting sponsored by Novation, you did it! :D

[@bdjarman4271]

Really helpful Gabe thank you :)

[@samprock]

I'll get Circuit X Pro :) Great comparison showing off, Gabe!

[@Turbo_TechnoLogic]

This was extremely useful thx

[@clubkurazh]

great review and great info! I made my choice and bought what I wanted

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Glad to help!

[@curtflirt2]

Thanks for this Video

[@timetravelvictim]

Thanks for all you’re videos , Gabe. I’ve been watching your groovebox videos over and over again. I’m still torn between the Roland 101, Novation Circuit and Electribe. I need to make a decision ASAP.

[@Antonio_Ortiz]

I know this is 2 years too late, but Circuit, hands down.

[@timetravelvictim]

@@Antonio_Ortiz Thanks! I've had the tracks now for over 1.5 years and it's a definite part of my workflow.

[@ritualsoundsystem]

They put stereo inputs for sampling to sum both sides into one when capturing, whereas some other samplers convert to sample by extracting just using the left side only.

[@User-wq9ri]

That's awesome that Novation is sponsoring your video. How long have you had your channel?

[@Yosser70]

I’ve got an og Circuit and a mono station, think the rythem would be a perfect compliment.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

If I had to choose one I'd go for the circuit Rythem as I can make and get all the sounds on Curcuit Tracks because I have a Mininova. I can record the Mininova and have Tracks style sounds loaded into the Rythem as samples.

[@rexcellencemagee6729]

Very nice job describing the difference between them! I decided I don’t need either! lol, and the controller is just a little too ugly for me. But I see why Novation asked YOU to do this video. I have a Blackbox and just wanted a controller but I’m always open to multi-functionalality, I have more than enough sequencers and samplers, what I don’t have are modulation controllers, I guess the push is still the only one, in a pad format. But I’m not spending 2k to get it! I think I’ll just use my Alesis controller with an MPC style pad grid. Although that’s velocity only, I do have a touché. Thanks for the video! It was helpful to me!

[@ssmith2019]

I gots both ! TONS O' FUN !😊

[@KingWalterDeuce]

The fact that you can play chords on one and not the other is a no brainer to buy the circuit tracks. 💯

[@devondetroit2529]

You can sample chords dummy

[@vlord47]

hm... I was thinking quite the opposite: the fact that you have chromatic sample playing on one and not the other is a no brainer to buy the circuit rhythm. BUT. It's monophonic compared to the tracks, which makes it less attractive. BUT. It has sample chopping and other features I would not want to miss out on. So for me it's not an option to buy either and also its no option to buy both. I'd like to have a device that combines all those features and has none of the downsides of both. Simple as that.

[@Elyoslayer]

On top of that also allowing for many different scales/modes other than chromatic is pretty important

[@ogulkoker]

Yeah I'm still waiting them to produce a Mega Circuit that can do all of them...

[@psiangel]

They arent meant to do the same thing, it's not like the og circuit and circuit tracks

[@TheExileFox]

What would be cool and probably very doable would be an "Firmware switch upgrade" that turns the Circuit Rhythm into a Circuit Tracks or vice versa for a one-time fee. Then you can flip back and forth between the two as you need to. It wouldn't be possible to switch on-the-fly but it would certainly not take long to reprogram either device with the other ones firmware assuming the hardware is nearly identical (which it should be, as only the button labels and faceplate should differ.)

[@mrburns366]

It would be even better to have a half and half

[@davidvantongerloo1907]

thanks for this great info, about the 2 setups, a'm in to witchhouse, and looking to get some extra output in my sound now i only used vst in bitwig, like you want a way to leave the computer bit more !!!

[@davidvantongerloo1907]

today proud owner of a Tracks, must say ooo man so powerfull this is !

[@drewlawrence696]

Great comparison, thank you, gets a 'sub' from me :). I could use both :) I like that I could MIDI my DDrum 4 and use the phenomenal DDrum 'drums' (from when they were Clavia-Nord owned) all without using a computer.

[@stolester]

How you like ddrum 4, is it good for techno based music, can u explain it, it to litle things about ddrum

[@Dagardmusic]

Maestro

[@leewightman8619]

I kinda want the rhythm now

[@twocanucksful]

Great review. Everyone definitely needs this information to make a smart choice between the two. By the way, wouldn’t it be nice if all the features could be combined into one device, even if it meant a higher price point?

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Thanks! And yeah I've been telling them that, but I have no idea if it'll ever happen

[@detroittrickster3327]

@@GabeMillerMusic its a business model to 2x their profit and get you to buy both

[@vinyisoft]

The reason for having a stereo in on the Rythm is to have another stereo input (what else than a Circuit tracks!) and feed that external sound thru the Rythm's Grid FX and main filters. This allows the Rythm to be at the end of the chain of you gears' audio signals.

[@lecliche8849]

So basically I want some things from the Tracks and some from the Rhythm so I have to purchase both, when the hardware seems to be basically the same, right? I have the Tracks (as well as 2 Base Stations and a Mono Station, plus various controllers, all from Novation) but I really want to play my samples across the keyboard (like that 'analog' synth patch you play on the Rhythm in the video is super cool - I want to be able to do that on the Tracks). So do I wait for a possible update that will enable chromatic sample playing on the Tracks - but that would eliminate the main differentiating factors between these two products and the main reason why anyone would purchase both? That update is highly unlikely. Anyway, why purchase both models when I can get a MPC One for less and which does all of this and so much more. Thanks for the video Gabe. Highly entertaining as usual.

[@tradrudeboy]

Right. They're keeping the cost low because the $600 level is saturated by well-known devices already. I haven't opened them up, but I assume the hardware shares the same form factor (which is why the Rhythm has stereo inputs), but the circuitry is different, making some features impossible to apply with a firmware update on each device, which would go a long way in keeping the cost so low. Novation is really good at design. They make a lot of very intuitive, well-built products (especially at entry level), and I think their goal is to specifically not go against Elektron or Akai right now.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

If I had to choose one I'd go for the circuit Rythem as I can make and get all the sounds on Curcuit Tracks because I have a Mininova. I can record the Mininova and have Tracks style sounds loaded into the Rythem as samples. If you don't own a Mininova then you can get free or low cost synthesizer apps on ios, android and windows at make the sounds of the Mininova or Tracks. Rythem wins the battle hands down. You don't need both.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

I'd advise you get a Mininova and The Rythem, that way you don't have to have two identical looking machines and you will get all of the sounds and you can make samples from the Mininova. There all in the £300 $350 price range.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

@@tradrudeboy Get a Mininova and The Circuit Rythem, best choice.

[@tarvopajus]

Nice overview . I am considering one of those two for atmospheric etc synthwave and I want to connect alesis vmini and theremini to it plus a usb soundcard with mic. Which one suits best? Thank You

[@matszh]

A Novation Circuit Pro isn’t a bad idea. Including chromatic and polyphonic sampling abilities, with sampling from inputs, two stereo inputs and 16 tracks, would make me push the trigger. Perhaps also including the speaker from the original.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

People should get a Mininova and The Rythem, that way you don't have to have two identical looking machines and you will get all of the sounds and you can make samples from the Mininova. There all in the £300 $350 price range anyway.

[@isaachorgan]

@@HOLLASOUNDS There's one problem I can see with this. I'm probably wrong, but I thought the Circuit Rhythm could only sequence monophonically.

[@isaachorgan]

Oh wait you probably mean to sample the mininova. That makes more sense 🤦‍♂️

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

@@isaachorgan No the both machines sequence prolific. Tracks has MiniNova nova sound generator synth engine, Vs Rethem having a sampler sound generator.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

@@isaachorgan Choice 1 Trancks and Rythem, two machines that look the same. 2 MiniNova and Tracks, two two machines that sound the same 3 MiniNova and Rythem Two machines look look and sound different.

[@RogueAstro85]

Tbh both of these are missing major parts that makes me not want either. Thank you for this video! I was about to pull the trigger on the Rhythm but you're the first to mention that it's monophonic in all the reviews I've seen, so I'm gonna look for something else

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Glad the video was helpful!

[@PaulSpades]

so, have you gone korg electribe or elektron?

[@reignoverclouds5842]

Hey man, do you know what is the maximum sample time on the tracks? And if the max time is for all 4 drum channels or per channel. Thanks in advance

[@DJ.DBD1]

Do you think Or can you see Novation combining both of these devices in the future. Or in 2023 👌🏽 love you channel

[@squeakD]

Ugggh! I can’t decide between the Novation and Roland TR6S. There is currently just a $10 price difference between them. I like both Novation models, but I’m on the fence with the operation. I like having a screen.

[@EnochDark]

i plan on getting both (already have the rhythm) i think it will be fun to sample the 606 into the circuit for added craziness. ;)

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

@@EnochDark No you should get the Mininova, it's got all the sounds of the Tracks at the same price and you don't have two identical looking machines.

[@EnochDark]

@@HOLLASOUNDS what? why? read my comment again please... when i said both i meant the TR-06 since i thought that's what dude was referring to when he said TR6S... either way quite different than a tracks and if nova is what i wanted I'd get the bigger one.

[@autistichead8137]

What is best to use for prog rock guy who has a guitar and Korg minilogue? Outstanding as always

[@MaleInMarchMusic]

Finally sponsored 🙌😎

[@ababababeebababa]

This great review left me wanting BOTH tracks and rhythm. However, I find the tracks and mc-101 compelling also. I think the interface of both ... and likely learn one, basically half way there on the other ... would be a big plus.

[@danrdgreen]

I love my Tracks and was waiting for the Rhythm but bought an MPC Live II because I was impatient. I think the Live II can probably do more than the two of these combined. Saying that I might link the Live II with the Tracks and have some fun. Me personally though, I'd buy an MPC over either or both of these. Great fun though.

[@Gainn]

Both of these together cost more, and do less than an MPC One. You can get away with 95% of the feature set (plus more) with an MC-101. These are terrible value and deliberately hobbled to make you want both.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Best combo would be Mininova and Rythem.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

@@Gainn The best solution is to get a Mininova and the Rythem. I have a Mininova so I'd get the Rythem.

[@steventaylor3789]

@@Gainn I hear what you’re saying but the interface is very different to an mc101. For me the Circuit interface is much more performative than the 101. It’s got more pads for a start so it’s easier to actually play stuff chromatically over a bigger range without having to be stuck in a key. They’re really very different in all sorts of ways. For reference in terms of grooveboxes I use a Tracks, Live 2, and a Force. All very different, but they all add something. I’d quite like an MC707 but can’t justify it … yet ;-) Value wise I think “terrible value” is a bit strong. Yes the MPC has for example lots more FX but ultimately there has to be an initial cost for the hardware and they feel solid in use. Light but solid. Consider the target market. Either beginner or someone like me that doesn’t always want to deal with the multitude of choices an MPC provides. They’re grab and play and I think that is where their value is. Particularly once you’ve learnt the interface which is super simple to use and very fast once learnt. There’s more to these devices than the specs and they do sound good. Certainly better than the og circuit (less noisy and punchier which may be the compressor). I also suspect that those that are complaining that one device can’t do everything would also complain if the price goes up if it was an ‘all in one’. It would then to be fair be nearer to the MPC One which would price it out of the market. It occupies a different place in the market and has a different workflow and that’s a good thing. The Argon 8 and Cobalt 8 are clearly similar hardware wise but it matters not. They’re digital devices. Diva and Serum run on the same hardware funnily enough but it doesn’t stop me using them. I digress. It would be nice if some of the features were available across both units and it’s clearly possible but Novation are a business. Not greedy as someone wrote somewhere in another comment chain. Laughable comment that given how much they support their kit with firmware updates. Anyway, that’s only my thoughts on multiple different comments which seem unthoughtfully negative. For the money these things are great. I can now pick up my Circuit and go play it anywhere and it’s got scenes! Who would have thought.

[@THE.MICHAEL.ANGELO]

So how are these Circuits with Maschine Plus? Like, is it a good to have a workflow connecting a Circuit Rhythm or Track with a Maschine Plus or is the Maschine Plus better off on it's own? I'm looking to get a Maschine Plus (I owned the original Maschine MK1 2012). I love how the Tracks has the ability to connect to external synths/ midi's because I just ordered the Kontrol A61 but the Rhythm has awesome Sampling (according to your video). Basically, I want a setup where I can work at the home studio (production) yet, be able to take it to a live performance and perform with. Thanks Gabe!

[@TheCircusp]

good review, Rythm not available in france shop, damn...

[@SaEvSampleEverything]

I wanna Rhythm, sampling is everything for me :D

[@jaxager]

Maybe someone can answer this question for me. I have a Mininova. I love it. I bought a big pack of patches that are patches reproducing iconic Gary Numan synth sounds: like the synth used in Cars and Are Friends Electric. Since the Tracks uses the Mininova synth engine, can I load those patches into the Tracks? I am pretty sure they are sysex. I'm at work so I cannot check right now. I love the Mininova synth engine. I'm on the fence about getting a Novation Tracks. If I could load those patches, along with the Giorgio Moroder patches, into the Tracks then I would probably get it.

[@NRG2]

So, get BOTH, for sure 😆👍

[@aloneinanearthship4010]

What about controlling external samplers with the tracks?

[@ticketstomars]

thanx for your videos! is it possible to use Rythm as a "hub" for external synths like Circuit Tracks?: you sequence exteranl synth and run its sound to same midi channel and you have it on mixer and you can apply effects. Can you run stereo channel through it? can you apply stutter effects on external signal?

[@CGEE_Music]

Question Gabe, how much value would you find by using both of these on conjunction?

[@andrij.demianczuk]

Gabe: “you don’t need both…” Me: “oh but I do Mr. Miller. I do…”

[@scottglasgowmusic]

As much as I love playing around with my circuit tracks (and I use it for ambient / film work not songs with beats), the BIGGEST issue with both of these is the MONO samples! Yes I know they both utilize stereo effects creating the idea of stereo, the units are essentially stuck as mono sample boxes. Not really useful for professional music work, also audio outs to a DAW is a major problem. I've processed a cool bass line then output only that one track into my DAW. I now use my CT as a pad trigger for samples via midi into my DAW (an expensive controller TBH with some extras for fun).

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Mininova with the Rythem is a better choice.

[@MonkeyKing3333]

Hey Gabe. Help. Please. Lol. Ive made a few songs on my tracks with Uno synth. How do I record them. Ive heard a multi track field recorder or audio interface may be the way to go. What's the difference? And if I got with the field recorder can I audio in with a cable or does that mean I use the external mic. Dude thanks so much for all you do, you've helped me heaps. 😊🎵

[@GabeMillerMusic]

You should be able to record audio in, or do something similar with an audio input on a computer. I'm actually working on a video on this topic because it's been super heavily requested lately.

[@MonkeyKing3333]

@@GabeMillerMusic Thanks heaps Gabe. Saved me again! 🙏

[@mackertub]

Researching tirelessly about these machines, and other comparable groove machines. Two questions: Can you do any other time signatures? (i.e. 6/8). Also can you change chords on a composition playing live? Or putting together a complete song? Or change keys on the fly? Want to use the Novation like a back up band, playing complete songs. Are these ridiculous questions? Thanks to those who can answer. Macker.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Get the Rythem.

[@lsemaldokhar4154]

Does the Circuit Tracks function as a MIDI controller as well? I'm interested in getting it, but I want to be able to use it with software synths.

[@EnochDark]

cool but i like my current cycles + rhythm duo, next up? tr-06. why? because they're all gray and it fits my current depressed mood...

[@Joel-re1jz]

Yes....you need both. :)

[@SILVERF0X13]

So if you don't have any other external gear, does that mean that midi 1 and midi 2 on the circuit tracks are kinda just wasted space until you get other gear? (I've never played anything like these so forgive me if it's a dumb question)

[@Imetalman2000]

I ended up getting both 🤷🏻‍♂️. No regrets

[@sentokan]

Can you insert chords or single notes in step midi sequencing using an external keyboard? Thanks!

[@floconductor9090]

Thank you for your tutorials on this awesome machines 😊 It helped me a lot, but i have a question… when i connect my Rhythm to the Tracks or vice versa the input levels are soo low on the machine that is the „Master“ - what did i wrong? I connect from the 6,3 Out to the 6,3 in. Thank you for answering my question!

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Glad they've been helpful! If the Rhythm is the master, double check that the -12 dB pad isn't turned on. Other than that, you may have to contact Novation support. I've seen other people encounter stuff coming in weirdly quiet, and I'm wondering if it's a bug with a select few units.

[@mickeyricketts6987]

Have you used your circuit tracks with your circuit rhythm much (hooked up thru midi)? Would you please do a video about that? Theres only one video on the topic I’ve been able to find on youtube. I own a circuit tracks and am considering buying a rhythm to help overcome some of the shortcomings of the tracks. I would like to be able to use both together to bring in rhythmic samples and have extra drum tracks.

[@LauraSquirrel]

I am considering doing the same thing in the very near future. But, I need to buy some other gear first.

[@mickeyricketts6987]

@@LauraSquirrel I ended up buying an sp404mk2 and I absolutely love it

[@paulm9079]

One thing I haven't seen discussed yet (although it probably has and I'm blind) is how programmable is the Circuit Tracks without a computer. Can you edit sounds and load samples through an iOS device?

[@vinnytnecniv]

How many plugin synths can i play on this at same time via midi keyboard? Can i play through the drum channels , i have a separate drum machine?

[@li.o2855]

Hi Gabe, do you know if it is possible to apply FX on the incoming audio on the Circuit Rhythm? (it's not clear from the comment in the video)

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Only grid effects, you can't apply sidechain or reverb/delay to incoming audio with the Rhythm, only the Tracks

[@li.o2855]

Thanks for your reply Gabe. I already had the Circuit tracks and somehow not having enough live fun with "live" functionalities. The grid FX seem quite appealing on the Rhythm for a non DAW live setup with FX so have just ordered one. I hope these apply in stereo for INs and OUTs ! 😅 Thanks Gabe 🙏

[@goldenwonder916]

I asked ja. Looking forward to this

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Hope it helps!

[@jeffagoddard]

Novation has a 3rd option; Ampify GrooveBox on the iPad. How does a software app Groovebox compare to a hardware device?

[@4rch3nemy]

Novation seems to be milking consumers with these machines. I love the entry point for the price, but ins/outs aside, as a layman (I'm not an electronic engineer), it feels like they've purposely hamstringed both of these products so that they can each have their own niche. The pricing is great, but I'd rather pay a tiny bit more for all the features in one box. Oh and stereo sampling. Oh I just got to the point in your video where you said nearly the same thing (intentionally nerfed). Didn't think you'd mention it! Thank you for your transparency. MPC One seems to be a smaller footprint solution that does it all and more. I guess that part comes down to if you enjoy the Novation workflow over the MPC workflow also. EDIT: Lots of people in the comments mentioning the MPC One as well. I guess I have no original thoughts. LOL

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Not really, Tracks is a Synthesizer and Rythem is a sample processor. Just like the Mininova the Tracks is desighned to be able to be used live or stand alone without the need for DAW or using the software plugin included. The Rythem is for home studio and needs to be plugged into a PC in order to load sounds.

[@djjoshplacid83]

Quick question. On the circuit tracks can you still use the 2 midi tracks without external devices or is that all that you can do with them? Thanks a lot. I'm looking to produce mostly trance, techno, and drum 'n bass and I'm trying to decide which all in one workstation would work best for that. I wanna have a DAWless setup cause hardware is just more fun for me. I'm finding it very hard to decide what to buy. I'm also looking at the polyend tracker. I'm open to suggestions if anyone has any. Thanks again.

[@Supramonk]

Please do advise do you like it

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

I like Novation due to owning a Novamini, they are almost the same.

[@JonMacapodi]

I'm taking a stab here, but I'm assuming the stereo inputs on the Rhythm is so that external audio can be routed and preserved as stereo? Or perhaps there are grid effects that are stereo?

[@JonMacapodi]

On a related note, maybe I missed it, but I don't think you covered the fact that grid effects can apply to external audio/instruments that's routed in.... kind of a big deal if you're placing this at or near the end of your signal chain.

[@GabeMillerMusic]

I'll have to double check the stereo thing to see if it works! Yeah it collapses it down to mono if recorded, but I'm not sure how it behaves if the audio is just passing through. And that's my bad for forgetting to mention that the grid FX affect incoming signal.

[@bose5160]

I own both. My favorite is the Tracks. I wish Novation had opened up the SD card more. Instead of having defined, separate 'packs' of samples where you lock yourself into a sample set for the current song, you could have had these packs serve as isles in a sample grocery store. Open up a pack, browse the samples in that pack and then load a selected sample into the current project. I feel that would have made it much more useful. Of course the miniscule memory provided would make this no better than the current sample length limitations, but it would let you piecemeal a group of samples for a specific song from a larger collection of sounds. I realize I just described an MC-101 (which I also have) but sampling from live audio is so much more fun than over USB...

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Yeah the Circuits can't stream sounds off of the SD card, they have to load a pack into the flash memory first. I'd love to see them update that, but even the MPC One hasn't quite figured that out, so I doubt it'll happen. Roland definitely gets points for making that feel a lot more modern on the MC-101!

[@maxricemusic656]

@@GabeMillerMusic Model samples has pulled this off i'm pretty sure btw

[@vincentdelmas2792]

so difficult to choose between model sample elektron, circuit tracks or rythm, volca sample 2, mc 101, digitakt, mpc one etc....

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

I have a Mininova so I'd get the Rythem only and not Tracks as no point having two machines sound the same.

[@sandyturner1911]

I just need something to make beats with. I like the idea of the Tracks, but the Rhythm seems easier to use. I need something that stands alone, without having to use the computer. Thanks!

[@5v3n54]

I own a Circuit Tracks and i was wondering if you can connect this device to the Circuit Rythm and sync them up with each other ? If so i would love to know how.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

No you need a PC to load sounds onto the Rythem.

[@5v3n54]

@@HOLLASOUNDS I don't get it. If you have sounds on both devices i mean. Or can't you get any sound from your circuit rythm without a computer ? is that what you are saying ?

[@anagram]

I understand you like more sample players than synths, but how do you find your samples? How do you do sample management? I never liked samplers because of the hassle of organizing and downloading samples, but maybe I am doing it wrong.

[@GabeMillerMusic]

I use Splice Sounds a LOT to find new stuff, and I'll usually download a bunch of stuff in a batch and immediately import it all to a device. I also keep folders of my favorite sounds, organized by type, both for stuff I make and stuff I find.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

If you play live and like to jam with No PC or DAW then Tracks is for you. If you make music in a home studio and want to load up sound samps to make beats then Rythems for you.

[@Supramonk]

Do you think I need to buy both ?

[@vadimkuzmichev9162]

Do I understand correctly that I, as a guitarist, will be more interested in the rhythm than the tracks, I don’t think that I’m interested in the synthesizer, because I have no experience using it, but I need the circuit mostly to create atmosphere and beats, I have a wide selection of guitar effects, spatial processing (various delays and reverbs, as well as a bunch of other guitar effects), my goal is to expand my capabilities in terms of creating music, including electronic. Or could the tracks be more useful for me? (Will I have to learn to play the synthesizer?) What advice can you give me? Thank you!

[@rodolphep0nthus555]

I'm a guitar player as well, and have long experience mixing guitar playing and electronic music. For a standalone device, definitely the Rythm. You can sample synth sounds if you need, and more importantly your guitar directly on the fly. Because your are a guitarist, you will end up sampling your guitar and experiment with effects, sequencing your chops.. Just endless creativity. If you miss a synth at some point, you'll end up buying one later.. And the endless GAS for electronic music devices will be your quest 😂

[@philipbush9900]

So the midi ports on the rythm basically are just for show?

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Not necessarily, they're just monophonic. So if you want to control some drum machines or monosynths, you're good to go. Expanding a jam by controlling a synth with a chord mode/oscillator would also work.

[@stuffnuns]

Review the 1010 Black Box please.

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Tbh I'm not *super* interested in it, since I don't like how much it relies on its touchscreen, but I do like how compact it is. We'll see, maybe I'll get around to it one of these days!

[@vinodwawhal6998]

I want such an instrument in which I can take the tones of ableton in that hardware, and after making its pattern, I can save that pattern in laptop, and I can control that hardware with start and stop footswitch, what kind of instrument is this?

[@GraemeMarkNI]

Wiring a guitar into the Circuit Tracks input. Thoughts? 🙂

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Should be totally doable, as long as the guitar is loud enough. It might be good to plug it into some sort of amp first.

[@GraemeMarkNI]

@@GabeMillerMusic Yeah I’m thinking of going through an amp emulator.

[@hvhvgitaar]

tried that, but signal is very weak. you need some preamp.

[@CryptoJones]

How is it you are so fine AND so talented musically??

[@jfphotoandlife8287]

Try the Toraiz Squid 🐙👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@Jarah]

Buy both! (and the mono station) Fill the midi slots on tracks with 2 externals synths. Sorted!

[@4rch3nemy]

Just have more money! Easy solution!

[@ficko2866]

Can you use it with daw?

[@jammingpositivevibration]

I think tracks is best for me

[@julienchrist]

We never see them working together… Why ? Not a good combo ? :)

[@user-sx2iw2hq3l]

Could I use Cirquit Rhythm as a mixer, just like Cirquit Tracks, plus over through compressor and delay effects on top? Thank you

[@Elkesar1]

No mixer :/ Only monitor. No fx. If it will get mixer in future I will consider buying this nice sampler :)

[@GabeMillerMusic]

I mentioned this in the video near the end, but no, you can't. If you plug a synth into the Rhythm, you'll be able to hear it as the Rhythm plays, but there's no dedicated input track (as opposed to the Tracks, which has the two midi tracks), so there's no way to use sidechain or send effects. Long story short, the Tracks has the mixer features, the Rhythm doesn't.

[@matszh]

19:35

[@user-sx2iw2hq3l]

@@Elkesar1 What's the difference between mixer and monitoring possibilities of Circuit Tracks? 🙏🤔

[@Elkesar1]

@@user-sx2iw2hq3l Check Gabe video. He will explain it to you :)