Problems with the Stihl MS170 Jackal build

[@wizardsofwisconsin7400]

The fast forward starting attempts….funniest thing EVER!!😂😂😂😂

[@BarnyardEngineering]

MS170, my favorite little saw. Bought it for $20 at an auction, put an adjustable carb on it and it's my EDC saw. Thirsty little bugger but handy for when you need to cut some brush or a limb.

[@marklivingstone3736]

Hey Good video! You’ll figure it out I see that passion of I’ll get it or die trying!! Got 2 of these 170’s. One says made in USA the other China Tryed all that stuff. Adjustable 250 carb big boy chain. 250 clutch drum with 7 rim drive. Just used more gas and less power .043 bar and chain and original carb cuts faster. Didn’t port it just MM. l think you may have smoked it. Little saws at 14000 need more oil 25:1. And full Syn tends to glaze cyl ‘s Hate any saw that doesn’t run good. I have many brands. Usually something I’ve overlooked if it’s acting up. Can’t wait for the next great “ I figured it out video “ 👍

[@timothybyrom5560]

Get the same headaches wit a 136,or a 142. I had a batch of them little turds that would round the end of the ring off and lose all compression in about five minutes.

[@roguesixty1692]

My little ms170 is a awesome little saw has been reliable for over a decade.

[@jimbusmaximus4624]

All it needs is an iron horse pipe- instant 7+ horsepower gains.

[@jonathanfierberg3807]

Send the saw to iron horse 🐎

[@MrJeepfreak1972]

I find it hilarious you blame Stihl for it not running after all the mods you did.

[@novicelumberjack]

Well, this is the first time I've modded a saw and it just won't run for some unexplainable reason. My little 42cc craftsman is still running like a squirrel on meth. I friggin cheap ass Craftsman!

[@MrJeepfreak1972]

@@novicelumberjack I had zero issues with my 170 saw fest build. It's actually pretty impressive for 30cc. I, however, didn't change the blow down numbers. Didn't touch the uppers at all in fact. I'll email you a vid of it.

[@lukereynolds9907]

​@@MrJeepfreak1972 he must be smarter than the engineers bloodline 😂

[@novicelumberjack]

@lukereynolds9907 I probably am... They probably had years to develop this little turd of a saw, and a whole team of them as well. I've had one mistake so far. It's figured out now, on to the next one. Steve, I got the video and pictures of your build. It looks excellent! Can't wait to see it in action!

[@brandonsmith3447]

That sealer you put on it looks waaay thicker than any gasket that may or may not have been on there. 🤔

[@Hambonebodi]

Is that red silicone i see ?

[@Houseworksaws]

Sand the bore and the face of the rings to get that glaze off. Then she’ll build compression

[@IowaPerformanceSaws]

This guy always with the answers. Triple platinum Stihl tech for the win, AGAIN!!! 😊

[@novicelumberjack]

Wait no...this is the good tip.

[@IowaPerformanceSaws]

@@novicelumberjack I know it is!!! House in the house with Stihl on the mind!!

[@Houseworksaws]

@@IowaPerformanceSaws Got those Triple Platty certs on the wall and the bedazzled Stihl emblem on my neck..

[@wickiuprat]

Leaving a comment 👍🏻 I’ll stay with my Huskies

[@ozarkmountainoutdoors4737]

I like my little 170

[@darrenwilson7688]

I have had pretty good luck with my Stihl, just cutting up downed trees and limbs. It has never failed to start and cuts great when I got rid of that safety chain that came on it. I run a full chisel RS now and wow what a saw!

[@crazyfeller5704]

Maybe like Poulan- they barely have enough compression to run with a 106 exhaust. Maybe 103 is too much.

[@AndyH-13]

Don’t throw it, you will damage the new black plastics. Restraint is in order.

[@cajun3197]

Damn stihls

[@AndyAlaska375]

Aint got no gas in it. Mmm hhmm

[@Ketis1985]

You raised the exhaust way too far for such a small saw and thats the reason you did not have good compression...

[@redtiller1975]

My 170 ran well until I crushed it with a tree. 😢

[@MrHangerone]

My one had very bad squish check your?

[@jadeolin8514]

Not going to lie, was really hoping you would chunk it down the hill...f I hate Stihl. On another note, did you ever get a mitivac? Might have helped eliminate a few problematic variables

[@coolestguyontheplanet723]

Comment from me 😂

[@stevemcdowell2019]

😂

[@aaronpowell4885]

Never messed with a 170. Whats "normal" static compression? It does seem low. If it doesn't just want a ton more fuel, maby as Matt said, break the glaze with a hone or sandpaper before trying another cylinder🤷🏻‍♂️ has the ignition timing been advanced yet? I had a poulan p3314 who's P&C looked perfect yet only 105 psi compression. For some reason ran like a scalded dog after timing advance!

[@1d1hamby]

Excellent video and maybe just a fluke. Put it together and see what it does? Compression loss is mystery and seemed like fuel delivery problem.

[@JandKPowerSawz9692]

Gotta love a stihl 😂😂😂

[@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws]

👍🆙J&K

[@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws]

Y'all have 2 subscribers now👍, Good luck on Dubb's giveaway!

[@ozarkmountainoutdoors4737]

Just an idea, Put ring in cylinder and measure ring gap?

[@oldcodger1929]

Maybe you should let DB have a go at it Hotrod.

[@darrelljohnson4658]

Good work sawrus

[@Houseworksaws]

Hahaha I went through the same BS.. I finally have it pretty good. They always run a little weird. It will never be reliable lol 😆

[@novicelumberjack]

Good tip!

[@coolestguyontheplanet723]

Could it be rings not seated good enough ? How would that affect the pulse signal, would that be part of lack of fuel ?

[@Macgyver-ranch]

I don't know but hone it and check ring gap.

[@jonathanfierberg3807]

Trade it in for a noker

[@kristinejackson8268]

Do a comparison test.

[@timothybyrom5560]

Pulling on it won't do anything. I've had a spark plug blink out on me before.

[@tedneitzel]

It doesn't Ike what you did to it for whatever reason. Huge bummer for sure. All you can do is try again with new ring. This will be interesting good luck!

[@zero0hex]

I've seen these little stihl saws if you warm them up and turn them off they will not start again until the next day. But then the next day they start like nothing ever happened.

[@darrelljohnson4658]

Good class thanks

[@darrelljohnson4658]

Mind game

[@jeffreyhagelin3672]

Ass backwards running.. Always start rich and tune down. Starting out lead is a good way to burn down.

[@cortraulston218]

My little brother has a ms170 and we have the hardest time starting that stupid thing. I have to hold the throttle down and pull to get it to work

[@modarkthemauler]

My bet is on fueling issue because it ran for a moment when you squirted fuel in the carb at 6:46. Plugged carb or cracked fuel or impulse line.

[@thetwostrokerebuilder]

Rings might be thin on exsaust side hotrod. Rig gap will tell no lies 😀 Just smash it 😂😂

[@My45ACPs]

I'm leaning more toward a fuel delivery problem snd not as much of a compression issue. Did you get the compression reading before you done the port work to compare it to? Keep up the cool vids man!!!

[@lukewiltshire4700]

your missing the plastic insert on the intake boot to control fuel flow

[@CutterCH]

Out of all the saws I've owned throughout the years, the Stihls were the only ones to ever get thrown. You're right. It's always Stihl. That's just one of the many reasons why I sold every Stihl I've ever owned. If it's not a new $1,300 pro saw from Stihl, it's disposable. They should put an expiration date label right next to the serial number.

[@novicelumberjack]

It almost got tossed. That was some serious self control you witnessed there.

[@CutterCH]

​@Novice Lumberjack I hear ya. It takes a lot for me to throw a saw but it comes easy with Stihl. They've perfected the art of pissing me off. 😂

[@rejeanparent4095]

For problème and 346xp bould sheet

[@bigfootandbananaman4746]

Maybe ask Harvey what he would do

[@novicelumberjack]

A motorcycle carburetor! That'll fix it!

[@troy3052]

😅

[@jonathanfierberg3807]

Give it to Harvey

[@jonathanfierberg3807]

Send Harvey money 💰

[@j.c.lawntreesnow6272]

Bodey are the rings upside down ?

[@jeremynguyen2346]

Hey novice lumberjack how are you

[@frankz1125]

I like to open the gas tank lid to see if it under pressure. Cheers

[@troy3052]

Reminds me of a homelite super 2 i could not get running

[@cajun3197]

Hot rod with that well trained ear 🤣

[@rejeanparent4095]

ST Zacharie Quebec Canada

[@IowaPerformanceSaws]

It's because you need a bark box on it.

[@novicelumberjack]

Pfff! Another piece of trash to add to the pile!

[@IowaPerformanceSaws]

@@novicelumberjack always one of two things that I see with these and that is either a field coil or a carburetor so far out of adjustment that it can't be remedied with the non-adjustable carburetor that comes stock. I get these stupid things given to me all the time and if I can turn them around with a coil or a Amazon card for 20 bucks, I give them away to people.

[@99SVT]

Maybe you have a bad ring?

[@wompwomp9]

Fancy looking paperweight you have there.

[@novicelumberjack]

Yep! 'Bout all it is right now!

[@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws]

👍🆙BigGuy

[@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws]

Maybe it would of preferred red over black

[@timberslasher4899]

It's got a hole in it.....

[@BillsGarageWorks]

Ring end gap too big? Btw I though for sure you were going to give that thing the old heave hoe 😂😂

[@novicelumberjack]

I almost threw the damned thing right over the hill!

[@shawnglacken3055]

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