Now We Know Vault-Tec Started It

[@EpicNate]

W

[@mrjaked420]

fr

[@iampaullo2489]

The absolute visionary! lol

[@Autobotmatt428]

Yep the show proved you right ! Congrats man

[@mbishop2050]

An interesting video without a doubt, but I hate to put a bit of a crimp in it. Bethesda is just very lazy when making things at times. All of the white labs coats, outside of the one that is Arktos labs, are vault tech logo coats. Just like with the Pitt raid zone, instead of using the steel worker outfit and helmet, they use the miner outfits instead. You could be correct, but I think in those cases it was just lazy or rushed by Bethesda.

[@Autobotmatt428]

But not just Vault Tec but all the big corporations of Fallout were in on it. A false flag operation to cause the end of the world to create a massive take over of post war America. Bastards.

[@CyborgCharlotte]

Imagine that board meeting at Vault Tec..... “Alright team, we need to make these vaults a viable business venture. Any ideas” “Start nuclear war?” “Larry, you’re a genius”

[@VicksasT]

“Okay, so when do we begin?” “Well, it’s Halloween tomorrow.”

[@the7thcircle734]

You mean Gary!!!!

[@lahcenebelbachir7929]

@@the7thcircle734 Gary? Gary?! Garyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!! Gary!!!

[@funkytown_fox]

Gary, jerry....larry....

[@pcorn0119]

“and let’s put people in a tin can and do gruesome experiments on them!”

[@MattBiggsius]

The vault tec salesman didnt know anything. He was just trying to win a set of steak knives.

[@lemoncardboard4877]

My man never got his steak knives 😔

[@jameslilly3750]

@@lemoncardboard4877 oh he got his knives in my playthrough

[@Matt_10203]

@@jameslilly3750 uhhhhhhh

[@savathunthejudge914]

...THAT'S WHAT A VAULT-TEC EXECUTIVE WOULD SAY

[@logando3305]

@@jameslilly3750 Like, you gave him knives orr did you stab him with knives and left them there?

[@maxhydekyle2425]

"Can we make one vault where it's just one guy, completely alone?" "That seems cruel, even for us." "We could give him some puppets." "That seems fair, but what are we testing?" "Idk" "Fine"

[@jackrussell3084]

Sounds like a fair and accurate description of a decision process.

[@JustinAdamson270]

So Jeff Dunham lol

[@zer0deaths862]

Was his name Fred Rogers?

[@Lordgrayson]

Funnily enough this resembles in part a real life experiment that was done by Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II in the 13th century. It was to raise the children with minimal to 0 human contact until they were grown enough, So they could determine what language they would speak without having been raised around people who spoke or communicated in any way. They also weren't allowed to touch them for any longer than was entirely necessary. The experiment ended when, even tho all the children were fed, kept free of disease, and given all things needed for life. All the children died because of lack of human interaction. PS: Take this with a grain of salt as we don't really have a whole lot of evidence for this experiment's results and obviously its never been replicated to confirm the findings, although other similar experiments have been done there were too many other variables that changes too make them good comparisons

[@lulu111_the_cool]

What happens to human in total isolation

[@OffGridGamer2077]

The title of this video aged well

[@thewewguy8t88]

i was just thinking this.

[@Ro6ns]

Do you think this would mean the institute was affiliated with vault tec ?

[@thewewguy8t88]

@@OffGridGamer2077 that's not impossible I mean they did seem to be able to remotely monitor and even interact with the pods from vault 111.

[@jsim26787]

Honestly I thought it was changed when the news dropped lol

[@Rubycore]

@@thewewguy8t88 Not only, but they managed to get inside the vault without a Pip-Boy to take Shaun to begin with.

[@Vexe]

When the vault rep was talking, the script didnt say “speaks confidently”, it said “speaks confidentially” which means that whet he was saying was something he didn’t want others to hear.

[@chefgoldblum1450]

Thank you for commenting this. This dude has trouble reading quite a bit.

[@Unforgivingness420]

im just here to make sure everyone knows this

[@siccandtwistted]

👀 damn you're right

[@deathslayer4600]

@@ScottLucian Probably was lying to cover his ass. Having 'Knew about the destruction of the world and aided in it' is a good way to get shot.

[@ElectricalSwift]

@@deathslayer4600 why would he lie? He lived a torturous life.

[@grass2556]

Step 1: build nuclear shelters Step 2: start a nuclear war Step 3: ??? Step 4: profit?

[@bobpoop6076]

You would know a few things about profit Dallas

[@tobicevabuddy9836]

Nah its 1 : build nuclear shelters 2 : profit 3 : start nuclear war 4 : ?????????

[@JD-wi2kg]

I hope they paid them in caps

[@tehpwnr1504]

Step 1: build nuclear shelters Step 2: start nuclear war Step 3: do unspeakable things to your dwellers Step 4: survivors create a new currency deaming all money made from vaults mean nothing

[@sean5662]

Sounds like the goblins in wow

[@JXEditor]

I always assumed the time between signing up for the Vault and the bombs dropping was like Skyrim’s map. Compressed for the sake of gameplay.

[@jacobemming407]

Well yeh but we still gotta try to make narrative sense of it.

[@sunago]

They did say that we would spend some time around the area before the bombs fell and would miss it heavily before fallout 4 was released, suggesting there was cut content in that area

[@forsakenstranger2282]

if you notice, it didnt even matter that you were signed up. the guy lets you into the vault because you were a family with one male, one female, and one child.

[@watsgoinonhere1]

@@forsakenstranger2282 I think it was that you were signed up, but he was just double checking your familial status to confirm.

[@lostbutfreesoul]

@@sunago , Makes sense, meet the neighbors long enough to build a tiny bit of rapport and get a good look at the town Concord pre-bomb. We would get to see a lot of the 'Americanism' play out so we know what everything was like before the bombs fell, as our characters would have. Likely get viewed as a hero and celebrated down the streets, concluding by giving the speech at the Veteran's Hall. Probably half way through we get informed that bomb have been launched and are spirited away to the site....

[@Gwyn1stborn]

Vault Tec Rep and Codsworth are the absolute homies. I get chills when Codsworth breaks down how miserable it's been and when finding the Rep again

[@WeyounSix]

the fact that that chinese ghoul remembered English as well as he did while not having anyone to practice with for 200 years is actually crazy impressive

[@haydenfrost2692]

Radios

[@WeyounSix]

@@haydenfrost2692 that’s not enough man lmao he’s just really good

[@Rhultal_Vox]

I think his crew were there for a while before going feral so he could have practiced with them.

[@jett_phil]

He was right off the coast, how do you think he got food and water if there were none available on the ship? The real answer: lore. EDIT: STOP FUCKING REPLYING TO THIS COMMENT PLEASE IT'S BEEN ALMOST A YEAR AND 10 OR MORE OF YOU FUCKERS HAVE SAID THE SAME EXACT THING. I KNOW. STOP. Edit#2: Hey guys thanks for reminding me everyday, I really appreciate it. Love y'all ❤️

[@thefroggy5240]

english is pretty easy to learn though, i bet he could do it with enough time and books lying around, plus the radio.

[@AzureGreatheart]

“We’re going to the one place untouched by radiation: SPACE!” The Enclave, probably.

[@SamGarcia]

Tim Curry?

[@Pinebox-vo9te]

Frank Horrigan?

[@SamGarcia]

@@Pinebox-vo9te ti's a reference to Red Alert 3. the original quote is, untouched by capitalism

[@Green__Ghost]

The Sun: "I'm about to end this man's whole career."

[@disparatebroom7705]

“We’re going to the one place not corrupted by communism: space!” *meanwhile if they meet the 40k Tau* “h e l o”

[@ericericson9019]

“Vault Tech may be up to something shady” = “Every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes”

[@Riviera5252]

Fire is hot

[@santacatarinaball7091]

@@Riviera5252 ice is cold

[@bustertuffguts9984]

Hahaha 👍

[@sygmarvexarion7891]

Tbh, all the corporations in the Fallout universe are shady af. They all have their own Soylent Green in some form or another.

[@popbee10]

the floor seems to be made of floor

[@Stereolizardo]

Welp, this aged like fine wine Edit: I didn't expect a war to occur in the replies

[@BetarayBillLover]

Fr came here as soon as I watched that episode

[@nuarBlack]

Sadly. The last 2 episodes of the show were atrocious

[@tigerbot2480]

My thoughts exactly

[@CharmedReally7]

​@@nuarBlacknah

[@VanillaIceShake]

@@daniellogan-scott5968wow you must be some sort of super genius

[@Handlelesswithme]

I guess the real catalyst for the nuclear war was the friends we made along the way.

[@ErikPeterson101]

No, no, no...I thought it's that love transcends space and time as a multiversal constant

[@pumpkinlife103]

Friendship is magic!

[@timetraveler0002]

no no it was not shut up

[@Equalizing_]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Handlelesswithme]

Yes it was. Do not deny friendship

[@FoolsTools]

“How did vault tech get their hands on a nuke?” *everything in fallout powered by nuclear reactors*

[@jayus2033]

But you’d need uranium and lead. Also to build it you’d need concentrate on megatone and 100 mil cooking oil and 2 tea spoons of suga pour carefully with 2 eggs in the middle stir well.

[@EADF-CDF-SQ]

Actually they created a really angry kid and named him atom and he turned into a atom bomb flew dropped, got angry and exploded...

[@Snowissnowier]

@@EADF-CDF-SQ holy shit make your own fallout theories channel

[@midgetydeath]

Nuclear reactors are *nothing* like a nuclear weapon.

[@mackenziemcintyre1378]

Mh

[@bbolt8473]

Me seeing a 40 minute video on KZbin: nahhh that’s too long Me seeing a 40 minute video by Nate: I’ve got time

[@brothermaiq]

@Jibo Da Grey Not everyone has lots of time and they would rather watch someone they like.

[@frankcharlesiii524]

@Jibo Da Grey damn chill out

[@frankcharlesiii524]

Lol same

[@TheRedThirst]

Someone doesn’t watch / listen to EFAP

[@dongadson1099]

@Jibo Da Grey Because everyone has preference, just like you and I.

[@Volcarion]

You skipped over new Vegas, but you missed something interesting: Mr. House's endgame for Vegas is that he wants to get humanity offworld, establishing colonies on the moon and Mars, and then beyond. Vault Tec and the enclave are not the only ones looking to the stars for salvation

[@redblake66]

I mean Ofcourse, the man who owns robcorp and half the new Vegas strip, would want to expand his field of sales

[@richardiv385]

A war memorial in a museum also mentions a conflict on the Sea of Tranquility, on the moon. With a picture on an astronaut with what looks like some kind of laser weapon. So it looks like there was at least one moon colony, presumably mining Helium 3 for fusion power.

[@ceroew4239]

@@richardiv385 that was a retcon and only appeared doe the first time in Fo4. Bethesda pulled that out of nowhere, we can only speculate. Theres no accounts of pre war space colonies

[@duckydudes3514]

you know black mountain and the terminals? the terminal I just went into is saying the Chinese shot first which would support him but its eh or its at least saying there was missiles in the air

[@R77ification]

The issue with NV is that the story is too open to decide whats canon and whats not post Courier 6 interference. But I guess anything that didnt require player interaction (like NCRs history) can be considered canon.

[@josephchu6414]

I always love being lulled to sleep with the dulcet tones of Nate’s dad-like expressions and dyslexic command of the English language

[@Martin_Boru_The_Herald]

Yes

[@kenyonmitchell2107]

That description is painfully accurate

[@charlie-yp2oq]

Oof, I have to agree tho

[@Sublimeoo]

you must like Mittensquad too then xD

[@jetster_b4139]

I do to, until he voice cracks

[@flutterbutter2728]

"was there a central monitoring vault or something?" ....yes.... there was. It got destroyed when the nukes hit. This is literally why no all clear signal was given to any of the vaults. This has been stated multiple times.

[@IJNAzooma]

2 isn't canon outside of specific events that are mentioned in canonical games

[@logman3707]

​@@IJNAzooma Fallout 2 isn't cannon? Why?

[@ryleefisk1764]

It’s a fallout game that isn’t on mobile or is a spin-off (I don’t consider tactics canon)

[@J.D.Hardesty]

@@IJNAzooma Every piece of Fallout 2 is canon. It's not a debate.

[@IJNAzooma]

@@J.D.Hardesty 2 isn't canon because 1 and 2 are a paradox

[@TheRaider1815]

I remember watching this video during the pandemic. I'm so happy to see it aged like fine wine.

[@wowb1965]

33:38 Nate: “stone henge-like....stones!” Dr Mobius: “dome shaped....dome!”

[@heartysquid]

Now it all makes sense, Dr Moebius is just Nate of the future.

[@mobiusone6994]

Stonehenge?

[@epicgameswheregamesareepic5364]

FWOOOOOOOOOOSH THAT.... IS THE SOUND OF FLUSHING.

[@wowb1965]

Ghonny Juitar 2+2 is....4bidden TO YOU

[@epicgameswheregamesareepic5364]

Wow B GO MY MINION! STING THEM IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS M O B I U S

[@LoneWanderer101]

That was just the Vault-Tec Rep being a good salesman. He's trying to impart a sense of urgency onto his customer (you) to convince them they have to buy his product NOW. He does mention he has years of sales experience. He probably does that for every person who's door he knocks on. I also don't think that him arriving the day the bombs drop to be that big of a coincidence. Your spouse does mention that he's been showing up every few days looking for you and that October 23 was just the day he finally happened to catch you.

[@PoopFart6969]

Underrated comment

[@Furzkampfbomber]

That makes a lot of sense. Even more so considering that if Vault Tec actually wanted this particular person (you) and his or her child for their experiments, then they would have been _way_ more purposeful. Saving those people literally in the second the bombs drop would have been way to risky and the chances to actually lose their targets would have been _way_ too high. . In case they would have actually targeted the player character and his/her child, then they would have made sure to convince their targets and bring them into the vault quite some time before the bombs began to fall _or,_ in case he/she would have refused, simply abducted them.

[@nivekakninblarg8076]

So it seems like the protagonist arriving there and accepting just before the bombs dropped was the coincidence. Connections to the enclave maybe.

[@MonkeiKing]

Agreed it's like how insurance sales men will tell you everything that might happen to you and why you definitely need there insurance and used the things like you are 75% more likely to hurt yourself in your own home. Don't know why people would think vault tech would be telling every sale rep there master plan.

[@TheGr0nch]

He didn't know the true nature though, as we saw, He's an important part of vault tec but still he was refused entry

[@lawsharland7278]

Vault Tec had its first big break after the fear created by the limited nuclear exchange between Europe and the middle East. So I always imagined that maybe vault Tec intended to replicate another small nuclear exchange in order to boost fear and sales but unfortunately it went too far and the great war started.

[@shrimpy_nazeem]

That's probably the best explanation for this, why would they intentionally start the great war when some of their vaults haven't been completed.

[@LichenLycan]

@@shrimpy_nazeem iirc they were on the verge of bankruptcy. This would've totally cut their losses in a way or the small scale exchange at least would've done similar and even shown that their vaults protected people but you'd think if it were a small scale exchange why would the Vaults stay locked up forever to do their experiments. The Great War was the perfect cover up.

[@Corynthius]

Seems like the most realistic action made by a big buisness

[@joaopedro-un6tb]

Never thought of this and makes total sense

[@nuyabuisness7526]

Top 10 pranks that went way too far.

[@neomar619]

Apollo hit you with the gift of prophecy

[@murrayboyton8779]

Watching this after the TV show too? pretty interesting to see how close to the mark we got.

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

​@@murrayboyton8779it's non-canon. It brazenly breaks canon, in the name of... Well.. things you can't really talk about on here.

[@ldblokland463]

​​@@VndNvwYvvSvv When does the show break canon? If you're referring to the "2077 Fall of Shady Sands" thing, that date doesn't explicitly refer to the date of the nuke, and more likely to the start of the general decline. Fits within canon. Also, why act so mysterious huh? It's just a media franchise not a grand conspiracy.

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

@@ldblokland463 Many times, and you'll find me in some Bethesda credits. Mysterious? Conspiracy? Lol, I see your motivations now. I bet I can guess how you vote too.

[@infinitespace2520]

@@VndNvwYvvSvv You literally just said "The show breaks canon" and then proceeded to provide no evidence for your statement, hillarious

[@sturniboy]

"I don't get why they would print their logos on the actual bombs, that just seems really dumb." I suspect it was because they expected them all to detonate.

[@Osibis6]

Or because that isn't even their logo in the first place. The Vault Tec logo is a completely different symbol from the one on the bomb. It takes less than five minutes to look up the symbol on the bomb and the Vault Tec logo to compare them. Similar, but undeniably very different.

[@sudo746]

@@Osibis6 yeah, though arguably the one on the bomb is smaller and pixelated, 20 bucks says it's not vault-tec

[@EnjoyCocaColaLight]

And for no one seeing a falling bomb to survive.

[@crimsonking440]

@@Osibis6 Idk what surprises me more. That they bothered to put a logo on the bombs at all, or that Bethesda DIDNT reuse assets and just use the same logo. Holy shit. That bring back memories. Guys, remember when Bethesda wasn't lazy as shit? It feels like such a faraway time.

[@Osibis6]

crimsonking440 you say “they” like it was a company effort to decide to put a logo on it or not, when it’s much more likely it was just put on there by the person who made the texture for the bomb because they thought it looked cool or to mark the work they did, a signature not of the in-universe agents that dropped the bombs, but an IRL signature of the digital bombs creator

[@austinobst8989]

how to survive in a vault: step one: violate the vault tech prime directive.

[@ser3rm711]

thats why vault 81 is still here

[@AnthonyA_1234]

Or get close to the overseer and one day kill him with a "heart attack" and take control of the vault

[@chuchu1202]

Did someone say Vault 11?

[@jackpotskirazor3142]

"I'll let this familiar voice tell you the rest:" -video cuts to an anti-vape ad

[@sudo746]

we should've known all along

[@TheLegonaut]

Imagine if it cut to a trump ad

[@Hachiae]

@@TheLegonaut trump2020

[@some_shitposting_idiot3023]

@@TheLegonaut hell yeah

[@Stacy..71]

Mine too!

[@Pseudowolf]

3 years later we finally got a live-action Fallout and now we know who started it.

[@That0Homeless0Guy]

We don't. We know that vault tec INTENDED to drop the bombs first. We still have no idea if it was China, The US or vault tec. Hell it could have been Britain with the intention of causing china and the US to destroy each other for all we know.

[@ElShotte]

"Why they would print their logos on a nuclear bomb" - Because it's a nuclear bomb, it would be the end of the world, why not put your logo on it?

[@commietearsdrinker]

What if it failed to go kaboom though? Someone would come check it and realize, "hey, this is Vault-Tec equipment!" And before anyone tries, you can't convince me no one would get close to an unexploded nuke, specially in Fallout. Those morons literally built a city around it.

[@apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595]

@@commietearsdrinker Yes, but by the time they did that, it'd be too late to reprimand Vault-Tech in any meaningful manner, unless literally every bomb failed to detonate and both sides didn't launch their own nukes at just the radar pointing that the birds are in the air

[@dalehammers4425]

Pretty sure they intended there to be no evidence left, which for a sicko like them, would make it that much more appealing to put your label on it. "Yeah I did it, but you will never know"

[@elrojogrande744]

im pretty sure ICBMs have the flags of their country of origin on them today in the real world. why? im assuming the answer is the same for both, but i have no idea what it is.

[@ALPHARIUS_257]

That’s why I blow them up

[@adhdoug925]

Tim Curry, President of the Enclave: "I'm escaping to the one place that hasn't been corrupted by communism! *_SPACE!_* " As a sci-fi nerd I'd love to see a return to this concept. Fallout 5 analogue for Mothership Zeta/Old World Blues? Please god Bethesda, I'm begging you.

[@watsgoinonhere1]

Oh gosh the "SPACE!!" line. That's a reference and a half.

[@alexperry7219]

Play Outer Worlds

[@ladyathenaofowls]

Alex Perry it’s not the same.

[@aierune8201]

@@ladyathenaofowls But its made by Obsidian, the people who made fallout new vegas.

[@hungryepicboys8895]

They’re making a series with the IP so it could definitely be a plot in that

[@shelbyryder1910]

16:07 hey Nate, I think the audio got messed up- there’s no sound. Update: There’s also a black screen at 38:02 that lasts for a bit. Not sure if they’re bugs or features, but since it’s a Bethesda video I’m assuming the answer is yes

[@CJSilver31]

I noticed that too

[@caitlinspry6278]

Think at 16 he was tryna figure out the script before he continued on

[@supertacticaldroid1751]

Why does it say one reply

[@shelbyryder1910]

caitlin spry maybe, but if that’s the case the pause probably should’ve been edited out in post. My guess is some audio and visuals got mixed around- the clip without sound and the sound without visuals are roughly the same length

[@gootlegaming1365]

Don't worry, it just "works"

[@ButtersPringles]

Bro you literally solved it 3 years a whole 3 years ago. The show just came out and confirmed it!

[@Thegoldenaerobar2]

It's crazy, just saw it What if a writer saw this and integrated it?

[@maradjade1848]

Well the idea has been around in the fandom for forever. But yeah after I finished the show I had to come here.

[@nuarBlack]

Sadly. Most hamfisted shit I've seen. The show had such promise till that bullshit

[@ButtersPringles]

@@nuarBlack bro what are you smoking? That reveal went crazy

[@nuarBlack]

@@ButtersPringles no it doesn't. It's a 17 year old Starbucks barrista level of understanding of capitalism there with their talk of profit and shit. The whole plot about the enclave and vault-tec being in bed together isn't bad. The shows portrayal of an Austin powers villain type meeting about how this is going to have such good pay-offs is atrocious. Capitalists have never been the malthusians. It's terrible writing.

[@portfolio101]

"I don't get why they' d print their logos on the actual bombs..." Well, they are a corporation, and there's no such thing as bad publicity.

[@jakethunderbird8735]

Very true, what better publicity can you get when slapping your company's logo on an atomic warhead that could kill millions in a certain radius and participate in the end of the world and mankind as we know it?

[@hectorandem2944]

@@jakethunderbird8735 It's a bomb. Specifically... a *nuclear bomb.*

[@rodrigomateodelgadodelacru8154]

Underrated comment

[@jimskywaker4345]

Well, it’s not like anyone will see it if it works

[@valletas]

Bethesda sure knows that

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

I love that vault 81 ended up being a mostly normal vault because the people in charge of the secret stuff screwed up and all died. [edit] I also love the fact that the Vault Tec Rep really sounds like he knows what is coming.

[@kingnarothept6917]

At least he tried to help us..

[@kowhaifan1249]

No actually, vault 81 worked because the overseer sealed the vault tech scientists in the walls and they couldn’t do what they planned so died stuck in there

[@ducksongfans]

And he was denied at the gate to the valt

[@lulu111_the_cool]

How does he sound like that. Trough is mannerisms that he is a total noob as an sales man that is just trying to sell shit. Because he did that only to gain steak knifes.

[@mapleflag6518]

Because he was using a sales tactic to try and get you to sign up for the vault. The bombs dropping soon after was a coincidence.

[@EpicNate]

Sleep tight!

[@clueless97]

I am awake

[@Evaonk]

How can I sleep, you just released a new video?

[@tiddlewink8949]

Never

[@ayo5291]

Im a WIDE awake boy!!

[@unidentifiedflyingtaco4601]

No

[@MarceyTalks]

I was completely convinced from the start of fallout 4 (my first fallout game) that vault tec did it because of just how convinent the timing was.

[@hannahtidwell8550]

Sooo.... Outerworlds is essentially what would've happened if The Enclave did succeed in space travel and terraforming?

[@pv8780]

Something tells me that it was the plan all along, they just changed the names and repurposed the lore

[@robby7997]

Well, since Outer world has mega corporations in control it seems more likely that vault tech was behind it

[@TheSuper966]

Obsidoes what Bethesdon't

[@ABVW92]

Yeah, knowing the enclave, that would also probably make the worst ending (imo, best ending) canon :p

[@optionseven9699]

New Vegas actually connects the lore to Outer Worlds. Talks about how one guy bought an entire city for himself or something in space (one of the endings in outer worlds)

[@JoeyAGamer]

We meet the valt tec guy afterwards as a ghoul, he didn't really know anything, it was just something they told him to tell people, most likely.

[@glorfburfington9676]

Keep the right hand from knowing what the left is doing, and soon unspeakable horrors build themselves.

[@hatake1990]

Yup just a pawn poor dude

[@IzraelGraves]

He read the word wrong anyway. It says confidentially, not confidently.

[@Mr3ppozz]

The vault Tec rep actually was convinced he was allowed to enter vault 111... which is where we see him right before entering the gate ourselves... This may imply that he knew and was told "sure you're safe just go to the gate and say you're vault Tec" But again that's just how I always thought of it :)

[@JoeyAGamer]

@@Mr3ppozz I believe, just as everyone in the world usually, that he didn't really think anything would happen. So since he was there, close to 111, he just ran towards it in a desperate attempt to enter it by saying he works in the company so he should have a slot in it. I mean, he was just a salesman, it wouldn't be normal for a salesman to know the dangers and secrets of a nuclear fallout. But you know, doesn't really matter, we can theorize for hours xD

[@owen5640]

I've always assumed that Vault-Tec still existed in some form. They seem too shadowey and influential to completely disappear

[@thejohnson2328]

Yeah always thought that too, that's why I finally want to see them again haha

[@OldJerzyDevil]

That's actually giving too much credit to the capitalist corporate structure. One hand barely ever knows what the other is doing. . driven purely by profit and making construction contracts based on the lowest bidder. One of the first two games, can't remember which, actually states vault-tech reduced common living space accommodations to a bare minimum to make luxurious accommodations..

[@elevatedmeance6807]

@@OldJerzyDevil tbf, they were more of a cabal who used corporate to an end, I guess that's why their disapprence seems off.

[@thejohnson2328]

@Dom Clarke I mean I don't think so, because voltec would be to proud of changing their name, design. But maybe the institutes ancestors worked for voltec and split up after the bombs fell. That would be my opinion/guess.

[@williamyoung9401]

You've obviously never worked in sales, Nate. You ALWAYS instill urgency in your mark. BUY NOW! Not later! lol.

[@mickeythepothead4202]

After finishing the new fallout series all I can say is you were right, vault tech started everything

[@Unknown-ek1ox]

Since the comment starts with a "sorta spoiler", I'll openly comment as well: What got me even more shocked was that if I picked it up right there was general "peace talk" mood and it stalling, or having been sabotaged, ultimately with bombs dropping. It shows to me that the warring factions (US, China, etc) were sort of actually ready to put the wars aside and technology like Cold Fusion that was sabotaged by VT actually showed there was a clear map ahead for progress and less dependencies.

[@BogAppulBagul]

Yup just more of Bethesda ruining really good story telling

[@shriekingskeleton]

​@@BogAppulBagul Shut up. Just Shut Up.

[@shriekingskeleton]

​@@BogAppulBagul Don't. Just Don't.

[@Dumb-Comment]

@@BogAppulBagul Bethesda doesn't do well in world building and a lot of thing dont make sense but the story is good

[@noahegler9131]

8:25 The voice direction notes told them to speak CONFIDENTIALLY, not confidently. They were to lower their voice and speak personally to the player, implying that he's not supposed to be telling you what he's saying. Of course, that "Imma let you in on a secret" tone is extremely effective and gets misused all over the place to sell scams and deliver punchlines and anything else that needs that additional bit of personal investment, so I'm still with you that the Vault-Tec Salesman was probably fed that line.

[@darkbooger]

Vault-Tec: *Detonates some weird spicy metal eggs* World Leaders: The time for talking is over! It's time to push buttons.

[@zoltar0205]

I love how "Heck in a hand basket" is the only thing in the game that someone says excuse my language it shows the difference between post-war and pre-war America

[@ethericboy]

I doubt that Vault Tec guy is representative for the majority of people at the time

[@pollux_id2557]

he said excuse my language because after that he started talking about the "big kaboom". maybe it's just courtesy to say pardon me for talking about the imminent disaster that's going to happen within the next year (or hour).

[@fristnamelastname5549]

I think he representatives a vast majority of Americans in pre-war America. Not all but most people.

[@JohnJHawke]

@@fristnamelastname5549 I agree, they seem like 1950s Americans. With his buddies, sure he'd curse, but with a customer? No way Josè

[@outrankedfrank7244]

AND THEY CALLED U A MADMAN

[@TotallyNotKanye]

And it still is a theory. In the series they don’t explicitly show who pressed the button, if the wife of copper had any control her daughter wouldn’t be at the surface when the bombs dropped, also they never show any actual power of control from the companies… and a company cannot overtake s country like that, there’s a dialogue from the news that said something like USA relations w i forgot are breaking up. Also in the games we see varieties of bombs, in the games multiple were dropped (in the show too) in the game and show we have vault tec being involved in experiments w the vaults and wanting/planning on the bombs BUT in the games and show are both ambiguous as in the games there’s multiple sides who bombed / wanted to and planned to (including aliens) and in the show they show the pawns plotting but they don’t show if they were the ones pressing the button or if the queens made their moves

[@TotallyNotKanye]

@saulgundam did you even read or you’re just a brainless kid?

[@TotallyNotKanye]

Also frank, ignore my comment if u want, but someone made a video about people misunderstanding/monster interpreting the slates (timeline) of shady sands meaning that each box means something, after the fall (2277) some years later it went DOWN. I would take it as true as some people still needed help with some stuff that the series leave clear (The "Cinephile Kristoff as example and many others so called Fo fans that reviewed the series)

[@Sassssky]

​@TotallyNotKanye that's MAD though. If one side gets hit its launching everything and then the other side is doing the same and it's armageddon.

[@TotallyNotKanye]

@@Sassssky sounds just like a perfect thing for FO to do if they actually want to parody the US

[@bowenorcutt78]

It's funny how most of the control vaults we know of ended up going to hell in one way or another, yet some of the vaults that seemed on paper like a recipe for disaster ended up being some of the most successful. Vault 15, for instance.

[@blakedexter3224]

And vault 81

[@williamyoung9401]

Amazing how this video is actually kind of relevant today...at least as far as launching nukes, goes, lol. We're in another Cuban Missile Crisis!

[@gda86pl]

@@williamyoung9401 no, we are not.

[@Theviewerdude]

@@williamyoung9401 it's not anywhere near as serious as cuban missle crisis was

[@amberkat8147]

@@williamyoung9401 Considering that Putin's telling his people that escalation is inevitable, I suspect you're right.

[@DanNervas]

8:29 It says "confidentially" not "confidently", which implies secrecy rather than boldness.

[@baileychamblee9504]

I noticed that myself

[@Frownymonsta]

i was about to comment that also

[@cmdrmajordistress]

i was gonna say that

[@mrgaudy1954]

Illiteracy ftw

[@kindajacked5154]

@dar'man beskar Ordo fr💯

[@benwilliams3539]

I remember reading an interview in an old gaming magazine back when they were big, maybe 10 years ago, with a dev of some capacity for the fallout games. They mentioned how the numbers of people in the vaults just wasnt really enough to justify/suggest that vault tech's plans were truly about re-populating earth should things go bad, but the number of inhabitants and experiments of different gender ratios, equipment malfunctions etc instead represented populations and conditions which might arise if they were to need to bugger off on isolated/damaged ships and populate somewhere else in the event of the catastrophe, and that's what their vault tests were actually for. But since it wasn't in a game and just a dev chatting we can give it legitimacy or not

[@marhawkman303]

Well it's canon that there were hundreds of Vaults. Many were not manned with enough people for repopulation but there was quite a few that were. One thing Nate didn't mention is that some Vaults were earmarked for Vault-Tec staff. Having special hidden vaults for actual VIPs like the Enclave is a possibility. While Vault 13 was said to be staggeringly expensive... it's possible that Vault-Tec was siphoning funds and lying about how much it cost while they spent the money on something else. Also some are known to have had hundreds of residents and the highest confirmed number is 118. Interestingly the custom numbers in the Creation club Vault suits only go up to 120. So assuming 120 Vaults, with an average of 250 people in each(some more, some less), that gives us 30,000 Vault dwellers. Not a huge number, but significant.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

That sounds like it comes straight from the Fallout Bible, which isn't _canon_ but if I don't say it in a way that specifies the technicality of that statement the fandom will kill me. It's basically canon.

[@Floormat-ux4rw]

This is great EXCEPT Some of the vaults had disgustingly cruel experiments. I’m not saying this directly contradicts the idea that they planned to escape to a new planet, but not all of the vaults seem to really follow suit For example vault 12 never actually sealed its doors to study the effects of radiation poisoning, and vault 11 where the entire purpose of the vault was to have the members of the vault sacrifice 1 person every year which they did until only 5 were left. 95 was filled with drug addicts and after a certain amount of time a room filled with drugs opened up. Once again, while this doesn’t directly contradict that they may have been trying to repopulate a new planet, but these select vaults don’t quite add up

[@marhawkman303]

@L1qu1d S1lenc3r This brings up an interesting point. HOW did the Enclave/Vault-Tec expect to get to another planet? We've never seen them use anything more sophisticated than chemical rockets. Were they planning to build a city-size generation ship? Sure it works but it's SLOW. Your distant descendants will be the ones who get to the planet.... if they get there at all. Unless you upload your mind into a Synth body or robo-brain.

[@Tekagi502]

@@Floormat-ux4rw The examples you gave can easily be explained in regards to testing for effects on a new planet or being space. The first one being vault 12 wanted to test prolonged radiation poisoning which is possible on a surface of a planet or from being in space for so long, or even in the event with a faulty power core. Why they needed to test for radiation poisoning and how they tested it don't have to be the same, especially when your trying to hide what your doing. Vault 11 killing one person every year could be a test if a colony could handle a decision such as this due to a lack of food or oxygen. And from the tests it looks like they would indeed be able to make the necessary sacrifice. Vault 95 could of been a worst case scenario test if people with an addiction to a substance that was no longer available would they still make the decisions for the good of a colony or revert to their basic desires at the cost of a colony if said substance was re-entered into the environment. Not saying it's right or wrong, but almost any Vault test could be explained as a way to test worst case scenarios. Even the one man and 99 women Vault could be a test if the colony due to disease leaving only one man left could survive, and if so what would happen. Knowing these outcomes in advance could help them have contingency plans for all these disasters.

[@jesternario]

Vault 77 did actually have an experiment beyond “let’s have a lone guy and a crate of puppets.” It was isolation. How long would someone last in a large vault meant for 1-2000 people all on their own. What would they do, how would they behave. How insane would they become. When you think about it, it was actually pretty disturbing. Not as disturbing as 10 men, 12 women, and a panther, but still.

[@Anomaisie]

Yeah, actually that makes a lot of sense when you think about it from the Tim Cain generation ship angle. Basically any generation ship would definitely have cryogenically preserved Enclave members hidden in it. They'd be the intended leadership caste with all of the generation ship people only reproducing in space to ensure a supply of labor for the Enclave bigwigs to colonize whatever planet they land on. But what if almost all of them died? What if there was only ONE laborer left? Could the Enclavesicles trust them to maintain the ship alone? Would they go insane? Would additional people need to be unfrozen to refill the labor pool? Would a supply of entertainment items be sufficient to stave off their mental collapse? All things that would have to be known.

[@alaeriia01]

That's doable, as long as you figure out how to feed the cat.

[@squiremc]

I have lived almost my whole adult life alone and under siege to some extent. I survived and flourished. I would definitely do well in a huge technical environment meant for 2000 people all to myself. When I run out of entertainment I create it by writing or constructing. A pet would probably be nice but I haven't acquired one to this point and I am in my late sixties. Maybe not necessary.

[@dana_cataldo]

haha, Gary!

[@swissarmyknight4306]

@@dana_cataldo Gary?

[@Bakemono024]

8:26 "speak confidentially" not confidently. As to give private message.

[@sooupy6572]

Yikes

[@michaelnorris2522]

For someone who talks so much and has so many subscriptions, he is pretty bad at reading. Also, why does he always say "murder [someone] to death?:" But I enjoy most of the content when it's not too repetitive.

[@CheetoCheetah77]

Michael Norris the murder to death thing is a running joke in his videos

[@joshuacook3584]

You actually find out the war was started when general zao a man in a yangza aka chinese sub fired first after a misunderstood call over their radio in fallout 4

[@buckeye7040]

More people need to see and hear out your comment

[@coolfrog5240]

Yangzte

[@joshuacook3584]

Thank you buckeye

[@joshuacook3584]

And yes zangzte my bad

[@drawingainteasy4142]

If this is true, it's pretty unbelievable. Nuclear launch orders are designed to be incredibly clear and concise. Leaders are definitely noticed on launch of a suspected nuclear missile launch, at which point verification begins. You have quite some time to verify and intercept. While this verification is happening, the leader is then formulating a response if the missile turns out to be nuclear. The response is almost certainly interception - preferably above the ocean in near orbit so the resulting EMP does minimal damage, but you also then have to worry about the nuclear fallout which will be even more dispersed across the world. This is another reason nuclear launches are such a last ditch effort because the entire world is going to blame the launcher for the radioactive atmosphere and any EMP damage; they're not going to blame the country defending itself. Vault-tec causing the nuclear war, however, makes a lot more stance. If there's one thing any company wants, it's more money. The best way to secure more money is through securing more power as they're practically the same thing. Build a shelter from the government's weapons and encourage mutual destruction while you wait out the literal fallout. Then rise from the ashes with your advanced technology and weapons and produce an economy based entirely out of your pocket and start corporate feudalism with the board being the one controlling all resources.

[@peterschmidt7359]

There is Vault 0. In Fallout Tactics. "Unlike most vaults involved in the vault experiment, Vault 0 was not an experiment in human behavior. It was constructed by expanding and reinforcing the Cheyenne Mountain Complex in Colorado and was by far the largest of the underground vaults (by volume). It was intended to be the nucleus of the vault network."

[@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288]

Fallout Tactic's isn't canon.

[@isaiahwelch8066]

@@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288 : That's the thing: I dont see how F:T _isn't_ canon. Why? Because IRL, Cheyenne Mountain is two things: 1) The HQ for NORAD, part of the defense against the Soviets, being a part of SAC (Strategic Air Command). Who is to say that Vault-Tec, in its dealings with the US government -- and by extension, the Enclave -- didnt add on to, or lease, part of Cheyenne Mountain? 2) Cheyenne Mountain, even now, is still considered a place to go, as a destination of "Continuity of Government" plans. While nuclear war is fading as a means of waging war IRL, there is still the possibility it could be used at some point by a belligerent country. Why do you think that the US has been interfering with Iran and its centrifuges? Why do you think Trump attempted to get North Korea's Kim Jong-Un to negotiate? Because like him or despise him, even Trump knows that nuclear war would be bad for business. But my point here is, Vault 0 _should be_ considered canon, because from a logistical, communications and tactical perspective, it makes sense. Plus, if Vault 0 was the hub for all of the Vaults, then it would allow monitoring for all of the experiments in different Vaults. Vault 0 being what it is, is just too good, and makes too much sense, to not be considered canon.

[@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288]

@@isaiahwelch8066 Becuase it said a shjt ton of contradictong things witb the lore and because both Todd Howard and Chris Avellone said so.

[@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288]

@@isaiahwelch8066 You make slme ponts. Bht perhaps you should ask Todd himself.

[@isaiahwelch8066]

@@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288 : First, what contradicting points were made with the main lore? After brushing up on the known information, it gels with the idea that those in Vault 0 went the same way as those in Fallout 4, in that those cryogenically frozen ended up dead. At the least, those people whose brains were used in Vault 0 and hooked up to the Calculator suffered severe conditions, such as dementia. All in all, Vault 0 seems to be the same outcome as Transcedence, where the minds downloaded into the computer did not realize that physical oxidation and other corrosion would still happen. Whether they planned for this via maintainence robots, or some other means, is unclear. What is clear is that at some point, the programming of the robots, along with the corrupted minds, corrupted the entire system. But the point I'm raising is that the original premise for having Vault 0 be at Cheyenne Mountain is sound, as it literally sounds like the civilian version of the government's own "Continuity of Government" contingencies. And, don't forget that, more than likely, Vault-Tec, being a pre-war corporation, probably did act as a contractor for various government entities, which would have given them access to government ideas and rationale.

[@Mr.Covert]

Always thought it was weird that vault tech was just gone after the bombs dropped, like if anyone would survive it'd be the bunker builders

[@apokatastasian2831]

thats a solid insight...then again maybe they're like the boomers/enclave and just are living a quiet good life somewhere with lush vault22 style forest around them in a mountain basin. if they are anywhere... it's a LOOOOONG WAY AWAY from anyplace that would make a good story about war and survival and mutant abominations and trading bottlecaps for radaway

[@joshuabiehl4792]

Don't forget the actual appearance of an alien aircraft in number one, and real aliens in a dlc in number 3

[@supercool1312]

@Nero Wynn and the alien blaster in new vegas with wild wasteland.

[@logando3305]

@@supercool1312 and the alian blaster in fallout 4. and a crashed ship. and a live alian.

[@charlesbronson2104]

Fallout 3 had the first crashed ship, dead alien, and alien blaster. Mothership Zeta was a wild ass DLC.

[@lilsabin]

@Nero Wynn there is a crashed alien ship in fallout 3 and new vegas too if i am not mistaken

[@floppagaming2213]

1 had the first ship actually

[@forkittens]

37:37 i think you mean 5th kind? when a person sees a ufo within 150 meters, it's an encounter of the first kind. when an encounter with a ufo in the sky or on the ground leaves evidence behind is an encounter of the second kind. if you can see occupants with the ufo, its the third kind. if you are abducted by the ufo, it's the fourth kind. and direct communication is the fifth kind.

[@jacobfreeman5444]

Here is my two cents. He didn't know what that system meant. I certainly didn't and I have heard the talk of encounters of this and that kind frequently growing up. For me what you had to say was informative. I trust it will be for him too.

[@orcd0rk]

Civil discussion in the comments? Must be an EpicNate lore video.

[@forkittens]

@@jacobfreeman5444 ya. i know that the line is a reference to the film "close encounters of the 4th kind". but i figured most people wouldn't know about the actual rating system. so i posted it to farm some like for a quick dopamine hit. thanks for the reply.

[@RobertDecker417]

@@forkittens isnt it 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind'?

[@jacobfreeman5444]

@@orcd0rk I know, right? What is the world coming to when people politely discuss things instead of burn the world in vitriol?

[@EpicNate]

Hola! Huge thanks to TKS Mantis' video on the entire cancelled Fallout Move: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZOodXSsaa2Ena8 Also - At 16:08 there's some dead audio that stems for around 12 seconds, sorry about that :*(

[@SlaughterhouseDb]

Oh I thought you were just making a dramatic...PAUSE

[@jessemartin2698]

dont worry! i enjoyed the B-roll

[@nukulardragon3891]

I thought is was funny xD

[@connormacdonald4722]

It scared me but it's funny too

[@Ceeeeeeeeeeeste]

HaHa funny error, it movie not move! Really love the video, at least so far!

[@madara992]

Really took “Start a problem sell a solution “ to another level

[@yaboifab2]

"And i'll let this familiar voice do the talking" *ad starts* "A lunchbox that unfolds... into... an eating mat"

[@NerdWithGuns]

“DIAGONAL LAYERS!”

[@m.w.3391]

I just started a replay of Fallout 4. When rebuilding Kellogg's memories in the Memory Den. He continually refers to " the old man" and this "old man's" plan and how it always goes well, and his plans are the long game. I always assumed he was speaking of Shaun. However, I noticed this play through that Kellogg, refers to "the old man" and his plan when Kellogg is taking Shaun as a baby. I think there are 2 "old men". 1 being Shaun, and 1 being someone who came before, and with a long term goal/ experiment. They kill an entire vault full of frozen non-contaminated people?????? I am not a geneticist but I would think having multiple DNA's would be optimal. I believe Fallout 4 and Fallout 3 are experiments by Vault Tech. What happens when you release a Vault Dweller??? What happens when you introduce specific emotional stresses??? Vault Tech are Aliens Experimenting on us. Thank you for reading my Tin Foil Theory.

[@itsclemtime2357]

Melanie Wilson that takes place centuries after the war. And the person who was the director was also a old man.

[@gamergodplays7153]

GreenEyedKitty fallout NV is a simulation, aswell as fallout 3 iirc

[@flamingstallion]

🔊

[@PugilistCactus]

The old man they refer to is the man we meet in FO3. Quest name: The Replicated Man. Dr. Zimmer aka "The Old Man."

[@flamingstallion]

@@PugilistCactus Do we know that for sure, though? He was head of the SRB and it doesn't really seem like their business to go steal a baby to help MAKE synths

[@racercowan]

There's a couple of questionable things here, but the Megaton bomb really gets my goat. It's not a Vault-Tec bomb at all. The logo is very similar to the USAF roundel with a circle instead of a star, and the bomb obviously wasn't armed at the time of the plane crash due to being over friendly territory; hence you being able to detonate it hundreds of years later. As much as this video feels like conspiracy strings on a cork board grasping at straws, I did enjoy all the new tidbits that were covered. It seems like it's less that Vault-Tec was in cahoots with the Enclave and more the commercial manifestation of the Enclave.

[@wintertrooper7918]

My theory is that the Great War wasn’t supposed to be as big as it was a miscalculation

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

It's not like they haven't lost nukes in our timeline before.

[@wintertrooper7918]

HappyBeezerStudios - by Lord_Mogul I mean we have literally had reports that people in charge of nuke missiles left them sitting out on the run way fir like a week before

[@Grab_001]

Apparently We had a plane fly over a state with ARMED NUKES in our own timeline. Obviously that’s incredibly dumb and this bomb wasn’t armed so good job on them for having functioning brain cells.

[@dag_will2615]

Well, Enclave could have still been involved. What's saying that they didn't have an agreement that the Enclave would help fund Vault-Tec's projects, possibly even funding them to conduct the experiments in the first place, and in return, Enclave would get access to the data collected by the experiments?

[@samanthasowell9307]

Watching this 3 years later, and since show is cannon, it seems he called it.

[@matthewrobertson5342]

Yeap

[@Bizz4r2m0ke]

Well if you do enough digging in the games you will find the truth of Vault-Tec. They revealed it in the games multiple times that Vault-Tec was behind the bombs. Edit: That sounded like im butthurt or upset that not many knew this before hand. I should also add that the games have the information somewhat hidden in places that most people wouldnt even think to loot.

[@Mistrinho]

Yeah, Turd Coward and Bugthesta are basically destroying everything Interplay and Obsidian created in the Fallout universe. My cannon is FO1, FO2 and FNV.

[@Bizz4r2m0ke]

@@Mistrinho Tim Cain loves pretty much everything about the Bethesda games and even admits they have some issues here and there but he loved the show.

[@googleisevil8958]

@@Bizz4r2m0ke Seems to be the consensus with most Fallout Fans... MOST of them...

[@littlejohnny7980]

“I’ll let this familiar voice tell you the rest” State Farm ad starts

[@smileyface9459]

Lol

[@chaddzeug8868]

BRO I GOT THE SAME AD AHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@perryhughes8042]

Beautiful segway, good job youtube ad personnel lol

[@trbi5142]

Vibrating sex toy ad...

[@KinKod1]

Does anyone recognize the voice when he says it is a familiar voice cause I do

[@Agill106]

The Vault-Tec salesman tell you that he's been trying to speak with you for a number of days before you see him in-game. I'd wager that if the salesman had met with the player when he originally intended, the player and family would have been a lot more prepared for when the bombs finally fell, and the whole opening sequence would feel a lot more impactful I think

[@lulu111_the_cool]

How more impactful? It was planed and intended that the main character just through pure luck suvived

[@WendigoGryphon]

@@lulu111_the_cool I think it would have made it at least a little more impactful (and might make the player care a little more about their family) if we got to play through the last 2 or 3 days before the big boom. It'd be a very melancholy part of the game. Your family continuing life as normal, not knowing it's the last few days of their regular lives. Maybe an (unknowingly) last meal together in the home the PC planned to share the rest of their life with their family in. Voicemails, emails, or calls from some family and friends who heard about your new vault admittance and want to talk to you about it or they think the PC is an idiot for believing in the fear mongering. A moment where your spouse and you jokingly but half serious make a plan for what if (give the spouse some actual personality). I've written half a novel here, but I think I'd really enjoy the emotional pain of playing through that where I know exactly what's going to happen, but the characters really REALLY don't know what kind of emotional pain they're in for lol

[@JamesTDG]

@@WendigoGryphon Honestly, that could be very grueling for the player, I think it would work best as like a short film that acts as promotional content.

[@rohenthar8449]

@@WendigoGryphon Agree with your idea, but com on, we talking about Bethesda here, and not CDP or BioWare.

[@dirpyturtle69]

@@WendigoGryphon that would be awful Lmao. It’s already the worst part of the game on replays I can’t imagine how much worse it would be if it was spread out over two or three in game days

[@MattMann-cr2nj]

"The enclave has been kidnapping people and experimenting on them" "Cough cough institute cough cough, I must have a cold."

[@HaugeBauge]

The Institute was formed by pre-war CIT scientist who survived the bombs. The enclave were formed from the remains of the militairy, or perhaps even the pre War militairy

[@sirstone]

@@HaugeBauge IIRC the enclave was formed from pre war government and higher military. The enclave was actually formed prewar as well.

[@danielawesome36]

Mate, you might wanna get checked for CoVID.

[@46_and28]

I wonder if the institute has any ties to them

[@rinzler1801]

no the institute doesn’t have any ties to the pre war government or the enclave. they’re just the descendant of people who survived the bombs by hiding in CIT’s basement

[@ek5714]

WOW the new show literally confirms it. I could not stop thinking about this video when watching it.

[@Aethid]

Well it doesn’t *literally* confirm it, but it does make it very likely. The show confirmed that vault-tec were willing to start the war, and likely had plans in place.

[@Bug09]

So I noticed that you said it was a big coincidence that the vault tec salesman from Fallout 4 just so happened to tell your family that you have access to the vault the soon before the bomb went off however an earlier voiceline by Nate or Nora (depending on who you play as) they will say that the salesman rep has been coming around for a couple of days and asking for you. Therefore, it wasn't a big coincidence. Our character was just ignoring the rep until the player took control for the intro.

[@christophervalencia5919]

Very good point! I forgot about that line until reading this. Really good little world building on their part

[@leitodamien3835]

Almost as if the memory was planted and the SS was a synth or something.

[@alfonsocarlossoler5371]

​@@leitodamien3835 ur one of that guy huh

[@kingdomcome3914]

​@@leitodamien3835 Synths weren't a thing then.

[@callmeswivelhips8229]

That doesn't reduce the coincidental aspect of the situation by very much to be honest...

[@and7thecandyman859]

This isn’t my swamp

[@badcreamcheese5737]

Ur first

[@T3nMiDGET5711]

Sop I am the only Vault-Shrec comment

[@charlie-yp2oq]

Pfft

[@nolifenerd2750]

It’s OUR swamp

[@lordexohunter558]

@@nolifenerd2750 woah there, your acting very comunist right there so cease it immediately.

[@dwemermaniac1108]

20:46 I'm so happy to hear the StoryTeller again, man I loved that serious. I wish it never ended. Keep up the good work man love the vids

[@Kold30207]

He described the setting then said ill let this familiar voice tell you and i knew, it was so refreshing to hear that voice

[@XMan75]

The voice is so familiar but I can’t place it…

[@bwillsskates2638]

This is literally how they told the story in the show and everyone is complaining.

[@daviddebergh254]

I literally just dipped my toes into the Fallout series after playing Skyrim for so long. This is interesting as hell.

[@phoenixgaming454]

Lierally how i got introduced to F3. Guy at gamestop called it sci fi skyrim

[@bombomos]

You bois need to start dipping ya toes into some new vegas as well. Some good stuff

[@phoenixgaming454]

@@bombomos new vegas people are the exact people i try to avoid. They always act as if that game is the greatest ever devised and all others are trash. And i am not about that toxic life

[@phoenixgaming454]

@@bombomos I've played NV partially through and dont get the hype over fallout 4. Maybe better than F3 but i also know im heavily outvoted on the topic

[@Dragon_Lair]

@@phoenixgaming454 You can still play the game without participating with the community in forums. It’s largely the superior rpg as far as mechanics go but otherwise NV and FO4 being better or worse is just a matter of preference.

[@DrakeSteele]

BTW, just realized you didn't cover "Fallout Tactics" - where there is a Vault Zero that was the communication center and data collection point for all of the vaults.

[@loserinasuit7880]

Tactics isn't canon

[@DrakeSteele]

@@loserinasuit7880 Actually, the major events ARE canon, while most of the minor ones aren't. Fallout 3 talks about how the DC Brotherhood were actually supposed to re-establish contact with the Chicago group but overshot them and ended up mired in combat, so at the very least the existence of the Chicago BoS chapter is canon. Some of the other events were as well, ones mentioned in later games, but what isn't canon are basically any events that contradict mainline games in the series.

[@dr.chocolates2630]

​@@DrakeSteele only the major faction is canon, the rest was deleted. Good thing if you ask me. FNV, 3 and 4 makes sense for a Midwest BoS. But for sure that is another BoS faction almost destroyed and if Caesar words are true the Midwest BoS scribes didn't even know who create the BoS, so maybe is a completely new faction.

[@jackdoyle7453]

@@loserinasuit7880 yeah but what is...

[@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288]

@@DrakeSteele That doesn't make Vault 0 canon.

[@ragerancher]

"Maybe he had a lucky feeling" TBH being correct about predicting a nuclear annihilation but not actually being able to avoid it yourself isn't really lucky.

[@alicetries5954]

he thought he would be aloud in

[@travismurtland3257]

He survived

[@ragerancher]

@@travismurtland3257 As a ghoul

[@blueeyesm2k4]

Not lucky, no. Irony, yes.

[@thedemonhater7748]

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Vault Salesmius the wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the brotherhood would tell you. The vault tech salesman was a dark lord of the mercantile arts, who was so powerful and so wise, he could manipulate his customers into buying spaces in underground vaults. He could even get them to purchase the day he arrived. Ofcourse with all the talk about nuclear annihilation, eventually all he came to fear was getting caught in a nuclear blast, which, ofcourse, he was. Eventually after convincing a family to register for space in a vault the nuclear bombs dropped, and he was kept out of the vault by armed guards. It’s ironic. He could save others from nuclear holocaust, but not himself.

[@crabdipp889]

8:22 he wasn't speaking confidently, he was speaking confidentially. Still, its implied he had insider info about the bombs unless that was part of his sales tactic.

[@wheresmymuffins]

I'm sure this has been noted before but some of those petroglyphs look suspiciously like the vault-tec insignia, which leads me to believe that they were in fact aware of the Zetans, or otherwise generally understood something about that message that influenced their operation somehow edit: 34:05 top-right

[@piscky]

Bro O.O

[@alexandriadiangelo6037]

You're right!! It's too similar in design for that to be a coincidence. Then that means, Vault-Tec always had their intentions out in the open, to be so bold as to make their logo after that glyph. The game really was rigged from the start.

[@mdecaydee1866]

By the time I'm typing this, it wouldn't even be humanly possible to skip through the whole video with double-taps

[@moviemaker2011z]

You doubt my power?

[@charlie-yp2oq]

Oof

[@akmalrafiaa4772]

I thought the Strike Force Heroes disbanded long ago

[@mdecaydee1866]

@@akmalrafiaa4772 A MAN OF QUALITY! Also, I'm pretty sure SFH 3 is like 5 years in the future

[@gaymer816]

@@mdecaydee1866 SFH 3 is arguably the weakest in trilogy. I prefer the first two.

[@gl_oomy_]

Well well well… I guess old nate here was onto something

[@Mephilis78]

Fallout 4 was the first time I ever got the vibe that Vault-Tec started the war. I wasn't able to find copies of the first two games until after. Now, after playing Fallout 76, as soon as I found out the orders for Vault 76's overseer was to locate and aquire nukes, it all started to make sense to me. Vault-Tec wanted to use the war so they could seize power after the all clear.

[@projectpally4320]

Wait didn't the inhabitants of the vaults not go into the vaults until the bombs started to fall? So one o f the overseers going to get a nuke would be after the thebwar started correct?

[@Capt.Gooper]

@@projectpally4320 the overseer in 76 is tasked with claiming unlaunched nukes in Appalachia after the bombs fall which kicks off the main story for the game

[@Stoney3K]

@@Capt.Gooper Was she tasked to do so by Vault-Tec? I thought it was her own idea to have a "fail-safe" option to eradicate the Scorched, which were probably an experiment that has gone wrong.

[@CodeeXD]

​@@projectpally4320 basically reset the world with nuclear fire and seize the remaining nukes becoming the new world power

[@Spootprime]

My theory goes a bit behind that, The Enclave used Vault-Tec as a puppet, with its resources and experimentation, to seize power.

[@quantumquackery]

“Wasteland workshop” was the trap and utility item centered DLC, You meant to say “Vault-Tec workshop”, Nate. That’s the one that allowed you to make your own vault.

[@Rednova08]

Wait, I thought in fallout 4 there was some dialogue from Nora that explains that Nate has been avoiding the Vault-tec salesman for days. Am I right or mistaken?

[@assasinon1209]

Yeah I think I remember that too

[@thefroggy5240]

i started a new game today and that's right!

[@poisonmantis4191]

@Kevin Giggy it's implied that you've been pretending not to be there, like a lot of people do for salesmen. i always thought it was because literally no one likes salesmen, and that guy is pretty damn pushy

[@Kawamura2]

@@poisonmantis4191 I feel sorry for him though, when you meet him at the hotel in Goodneighbor. I actually like that you can send him to one of your settlements.

[@poisonmantis4191]

@@Kawamura2 oh afterwards he's adorable! i dont think its his fault he's so pushy, i'll bet money vault tec made them act like that

[@bluicarys732]

Nate was 3 years ahead of Amazons curve on this one

[@mjf69]

6:12 "And that's where the game really begins" *Mitten Squad war flashbacks *

[@snowboyz0825]

I thought the same lol

[@johncurtis118]

Poor bastard put himself through hell for our entertainment.

[@ashy113]

"Can you beat the game with only a hat"

[@Vetresity]

Can you beat skyrim using only a fork

[@skylerwhiteyo]

same

[@TwoGunToast]

It said "Speak ConfidENTIALLY" not "confidently"

[@guiltybyappreciation]

I was just about to say that lol it changes the whole tone a bit

[@pissedvideogamer]

Glad somebody else caught that. I was unsure and not a 100% on what I was reading at first. Lol!

[@Penquinn14]

Eh to be fair it still makes sense with either word, if he was confident then he would've known more than he should've and if it was confidentially then he still shouldn't have been telling us that. You can still argue that they do it for extra sales but at least this entire video isn't based on some misunderstanding of one word

[@killswitch1982]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that caught that. You wouldn't lower your voice to speak "confidently", you would raise it. But you would lower it to speak "confidentially" since you're passing on sensitive information. It's an easy enough mistake to make, but one that can also be avoided with careful reading. The same conclusion can be reached both ways, either by confidently declaring that the end is nigh, or by confidentially passing that info along, but there is a distinction. If the Vault Tec Rep knew the end was coming, it wouldn't make sense for him to be raising his voice during his pitch and scaring anyone within earshot into a panic, since he likely knew there was limited space in Vault 111. But it would make sense for him to subtly hint at imminent danger to try to get Nate/Nora to agree to join the Vault.

[@biglenin7306]

*EpicDyslexicNate*

[@WadeWalkerYT]

Hold up, that means fallout 2 takes place in the same time period that Shawn is kidnapped in vault 111, right?

[@enclavesoldier7119]

Shaun was captured 10 years earlier before the events of Fallout 2

[@enclavesoldier7119]

@Saitama pretty well, we have already taken over Mars and Moon.

[@kpb8743]

@@enclavesoldier7119 enclave sucks lolololol

[@dasan3312]

@@enclavesoldier7119 ad victorium, sgt dumbass

[@xfluiditity7301]

@@enclavesoldier7119 that's fallout 3 young lad

[@johnoyblake1119]

You win🎉🎉 you’re THE winner had to rewatched this after the series

[@M3dicayne]

Actually, P.A.M., encountered in Fallout 4 in the Railroad, is one of these "doomsday planning machines" as it was supposed to see the future. It always warns you not to trust its foreseeing and was wrong with the encounter of the lone survivor not being part of its vision to begin with. And the repeated scepticism it proclaims of trusting its visions only strengthens there might be something the robot wasn't telling. And a console in the prior Railroad HQ (which was an underground military operations base before the war) tells that P.A.M. was used to tell doomsday scenarios and how to avoid them. But as far as I can remember, they totally trusted its visions. And priting bombs with logos is nothing new; you usually expect them to go boom and when a nuclear bomb does that, there are no traces of any paint or logo on it. And as narcissistic Vault-Tec actually was, I do not doubt a second they would print their logo on every part of every bomb they produced and used.

[@jerric1228]

I was waiting for him to bring up Pam but it never happened. Wasn’t there a popular theory suggesting Pam’s data started the war similarly to how Japan was baited into hitting Pearl Harbor first, by leaking fake data that america was going to strike them from Pearl Harbor? I don’t know if this was in the game or just a fan theory but until now I had believed that this was the case and Pam had effectively faked the first strike with false data, and both sides believed themselves to be retaliating.

[@M3dicayne]

@@jerric1228 Yeah, something like that. PAM was built to forsee a nuclear war. As "great" as it may sound, it is kinda naive to believe a thing built for only one purpose would simply "fail" to do exactly that although it would ultimately be a good thing. Military and politicians expected a "working result" - meaning a real nuclear threat. As all gibberish PAM calculated with led to only one conclusion, they surely thought it would be the solution and a good idea to fire first. And I, too, remember someone or something saying that PAM might have started it all.

[@unclebaba3463]

Side note, not sure if it's relevant but those entries also say P.A.M cannot account for the randomness presented by humans,

[@CodeeXD]

​@@M3dicayne so basically PAM just told them what they wanted to hear?

[@M3dicayne]

@@CodeeXD Bluntly said, yes. The project was financed by military and if it wouldn't see any danger at all, there wouldn't be any reason to keep or finance it. It just might be a suggestion that it wasn't the Chinese who started the war...

[@sctrgs3207]

This was really good, thanks. However, you overlooked a perfect Fallout irony in that more people, specifically ghouls, left outside would eventually satisfy Vault-Tec's goals of producing a spacefaring society: self-sufficiency and superb resistance to radiation.

[@Skhighglitch]

Are Ghouls able to do the... Frick Frack Diddly Doo? I know that there is the one ghoul in FO2 who asks for some... “Unholy water.

[@T800_Terminator]

Kachienkov no ghouls are sterilized due to the radiation that changed their dna. The ghouls are similar to super mutants because both have a downside to their predicament.

[@willyeeton4390]

Perhaps ghouls, with their near immortality and radiation immunity, would man space ships loaded with frozen humans on decades-long journeys to viable planets in order to allow the humans to populate those planets.

[@reznicak]

me: wants to watch funny, short video youtube: here's a 40 minute expose on why Vault-Tec is main villain me: understandable, have a great day

[@cushman72393]

Why are you complaining about this dude you clicked on the video and in the video's description it tells you how long the video is

[@kushykushy1228]

Its a goddamn Joke karen

[@lildabner]

the show confirmed your theory great work man.

[@LimaFX]

Fallout 5 the main villain should be vault tec

[@sirstone]

Like just after the bombs dropped

[@blazermettro2059]

@@sirstone Having you fight Vault tech just after the bombs fall, makes sense, especially since Vualt tech and most of/ if not all of its top Brass were killed off soon after the Bombs fell. As said in fallout 3.

[@TheDragonCat99]

Implying it hasn't always been?

[@sirbuflorin5950]

And aliens

[@hectorandem2944]

*Always has been.*

[@cursedhawkins1305]

Just to give an observation in regards to the logo on the bomb, the bomb was supposed to have detonated thus removing any evidence that it belonged to Vault-Tec however since the bomb never did obviously that's gonna be a problem for them... which probably explains why in Fallout 3 not only is there someone who WANTS the bomb in Megaton to be blown up and is even willing to pay you to do it, but if you deactivate it your then hunted down by Talon Mercs for the bounty that's now on your head, I'd wager that Tenpenny likely was once a higher up in Vault-Tec and wanted all evidence erased before any backlash came back and bit him on the ass.

[@randomguy-xp7se]

Maybe Tenpenny's grandad. Unless that old coot is 300 years old.

[@peenyyt4921]

@The Administrator why did you feel the need to use literally there? The sentence would of been fine without it

[@peenyyt4921]

@The Administrator clearly

[@todydn]

@The Administrator ummmm because thats what corporations do how do you think law rockets end up in insurgent hands russia isnt the only country supporting many smaller conflicts they arwnt even involved in so to say a mostly american company with that mutch power than many resources isnt out of the picture

[@sevitaral]

@The Administrator you obviously don’t understand real life weapon dealers, also each vault costed half a trillion dollars and they have vaults outside of USA

[@MediocritysMuse]

How could they build a nuke on their own? They literally use fusion reactors in their vaults...

[@bryan73701]

Yeah, I wouldn't have been surprised if they even just, sold nukes to the nations. Like how Tony Start has his name on his weapons but it's the government that uses it

[@radpan9642]

Yea not to mention anybody with alot of mine could probably get there hands on a nuke illegal or not

[@polygondwanaland8390]

IRL, you can't turn a fusion reactor into a bomb, that's just not how it works. In Fallout, nuclear physics is wacky and works however the plot demands, so meh.

[@lick28]

Nukes don't use fusion technollogy. They use fission.

[@polygondwanaland8390]

@@lick28 Thermonuclear bombs are fusion bombs.

[@azeroth1848]

15:45 on tims channel, he talked about how the vaults were originally to be intended on performing experiments that would be beneficial in understanding how to survive in space for CENTURIES. a lot of them were actually themed for space travel, crop changes living in darkness, lower oxygen rates, but instead the vaults became something that was jus given to americas corporations.

[@luisisaacdelarosabeltran]

This proves Vault-Tec, despite becoming the fourth branch of the US government and part of The Enclave, had its own ambitions and plans, so it intentionally put many useless experiments to fuck up The Enclave.

[@racehavoc]

In Fallout 2, in San Francisco, after you get access to the Brotherhood of Steel computer, you learn that self-aware computers started the war.

[@abigaileldritch]

This makes a ton of sense because the whole fallout franchise is inspired by Harlan Ellison’s short story “the beast that shouted love at the heart of the world” and in his other short story, “I have no mouth and I must scream” the end of the world is started by a self aware super computer. Actually this makes me want to make a general comment about this drawing more comparisons.

[@uberness77]

...Fallout was inspired by the Wasteland games (Hence the references in the original games like Desert Rangers.). Fallout was made because interplay couldn't get the Wasteland IP from EA.

[@matte3348]

Abigail Eldritch when you make stuff up

[@tastycookiechip]

Well In fallout 1 you find a super computer that implies that it started the war

[@rpscorp9457]

@@tastycookiechip Aye...but it could be argued that Vault-Tec engineered the events that led up to the AI's rebellion.

[@wrongcourier6894]

As soon as you said "I'll let a familiar voice explain it from here" an ad popped up and I'll never laugh that hard agaij

[@KingFluffs]

My ad was a black man screaming because he burnt his groin trying to remove his pubic hair. Charming.

[@finnberggren1582]

What time in the video?

[@Floormat-ux4rw]

Wrong Courier 6 “RAID SHADOW LEGENDS”

[@superdave8248]

Here is the thing. I have always suspected that many of those vaults were populated prior to the bombs dropping. Vault 111 was an exception. But it also had limited cyro banks. So the occupancy was limited. The vault was also much easier to enter than the average vault as it had a outside access. The idea I suspect with this vault was that the food supply was deliberately in short supply because Vault-Tec did not want the support staff to be the ones to awaken the people in cryo. The wanted somebody from the outside to do it. And that would only happen once it was safe to occupy the region again. But even this vault had to have support staff already in place. But Vault 88 is interesting though. It was obviously intended to be a command and control vault. It was supposed to be staffed only by Vault tec personnel. But even this group didn't get a free pass on the intended experiments. Only they were vocal about them being involved in experiments.

[@macmcleod1188]

Well now the show has validated your theory that vault-tec started the war.

[@d1v1ne2986]

imagine we load up Starfield and encounter a group called the Enclave

[@manxuma123]

That would be so cool and unexpected.

[@jasonlynch282]

Bet you the companies in star field originated from fallout earth.

[@Half-CockedG]

They would need to care about there games to put something cool like that in them again... Nothing but trash and Skyrim these days...

[@Whispergryn]

Or a space colony with the slogan "The House Always Wins"

[@lightly-red-huedmaleindivi6266]

Imagine you turned off your pc and bought a Buick Enclave

[@harvestercommander3250]

My only issue with this is that, if the Vault-Tec Rep seen in the beginning of Fallout 4 knew about the company’s plan’s how is it that he was not allowed in the Vault? Also, we actually see him again in Good Neighbour, but he was changed into a ghoul, and he was also completely clueless on what happened to you or why you look the same as you did before the war.

[@gavinshirley]

He was just gonna win a pair of steak knives

[@christophervalencia5919]

I believe he was unaware of their true plans. They needed many recruiters to fill their vaults, would be a big risk to let all them in on the know. And after the bombs drop, they didnt need him

[@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human]

He was just going door to door trying to hit those sales targets.

[@jesternario]

He was merely a sales rep soliciting door to do, letting people know that they had been selected to be in a vault. He was given training in how and what to say by Vault-Tec. It’s not that he had any authority or was in the know about anything. They told him to say things this way, so he did.

[@kingdomcome3914]

I reckon he was on a need-to-know system. He only knows what's been given to him; it's what Vault-Tec thinks what he should know, not what he has to know.

[@coronq125]

I like how this guy started off with lists of uncommon events and some dev-only places, to full blown theories and hidden lore shit.

[@salysselvyn3777]

This was one of my favorite lore videos from you Nate, and the fact that you were spot on is crazy😂 Props to you!🎉

[@loseyljosh]

The thing I love most about fallout is the sheer amount of lore you find through all the games. The sense of loneliness as well adds a unique feel it’s the only reason I pay for fallout 1st in 76 let’s me take in the game how I did with all the others. I’ve been addicted to this game series since 3. The games have a lot of bugs but have yet to find another game like fallout.

[@permafrost8322]

It’s the environmental storytelling. Bethesda has always been good at that. Almost nothing is directly divulged through dialogue or cutscenes or even by text boxes. Everything is there, the player just has to take the agency to unravel the mystery. That’s what I love about new fallouts. 1&2 were post-apocalyptic DND, but the new ones are Skyrim with guns

[@dazzaMusic]

Err elder scrolls?

[@RocketKira]

You need to try the Elder Scrolls games, Skyrim and Oblivion specifically.

[@jasonfarnes2345]

Try the outer world S

[@StarryOak76]

@@permafrost8322 yeah. For all of Bethesda’s main plot problems, they just fucking nail the environment of the post apocalypse in a way I’ve never seen done as well anywhere else, even Fallout New Vegas, the objectively better written game. I guess it’s hard to put the kind of environmental story together in a place like the Mojave Wasteland, considering it’s barely different than modern Nevada, so I may be being a bit unfair.