Noxious Vetiver: Only One God Roll Worth Chasing (And It's Good)

[@Fluffy_Frogurt]

Chain lightning? Super energy generation? Mag refill chance? The children yearn for Zhalo Supercell.

[@ShodawBladeJay]

riskrunner>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[@lloydllewelyn9775]

@@ShodawBladeJay Chadlo Swaggercell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> midrunner.

[@MrNuclearz]

​@ShodawBladeJay why does KZbin translate your comment to "rice cooker" 😭

[@TheMrMayo]

@@MrNuclearz For me it translated "rice runs"

[@michaellewis7605]

Using the Pyroelectric as cope lately. God I miss Supercell.

[@Zekkotek]

I just dont get the point of going for thresh over attrition orbs when they do the same thing but orbs does way more and is just better imo

[@justsomeguy2142]

Thresh can generate super energy with every down, attrition procs after a certain number of shots land, and although they dont have be all consecutively on the same enemy most red bars get downed individually before an orb generates While yes, orbs are better for more general gameplay loop with mods and subclasses downing multiple enemies with the assistance of jolting feedback is also its own little niche

[@lastwymsi]

Attrion orbs is more generalist, Thresh is super only. Thresh has no cooldown & gives the same amount regardless of what playlist you are in, it also stacks with the roaming super generation buffs, without needing to pick up orbs.

[@kisukeurahara189]

And heal u with better already, attrition orbs.

[@roby7357]

​@@justsomeguy2142In content that matters you kill as fast as attrition procs. In other content just use something with voltshot.

[@fredericoeusebio9770]

The God roll on this if u want any other effect other than reload is attrition orbs jolting feed... it can give u health, and ability energy and will replenish ur super faster but the rest of stats are so shit its not worth bringing up because it will require way too much in mods even with a 5/5 god roll and bungie just gave a multimach that just destroys all other smgs and most weapons in general with shear dmg and near infinite range via kinetic tremors ....

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

But KT doesn't have anti champ. That's one of the main reasons to use it. That said, the moment another SMG with high RPM comes out with Jolting it'll push this out of everyones vault (unless you like the archetype).

[@viviciuszn]

I can atest to this, Orbs + Jolting but no reload no handling, feels like deep fried garbage, i want to like it so bad, but orbs + jolting needs at least good reload to make you not feel sick

[@GodofRandom]

That roll is infinitely better on the dungeon auto and the origin trait gives you ability energy faster.

[@blackmask494]

I was amped about this smg until I got a few to drop the best I got as for reload is Frenzy loose change flare magwell with a reload master work

[@oneandonlyjark]

Please punctuate. We really shouldn't argue in favour of AO as a standout, bc it's not THAT good for most difficulties and must be a deal-breaker (unequivocally the one to pick in the perk column its in, when compared to the other possibilities for a weapon). Regardless, AO is done better on Parabellum in the same slot (Rewind Rounds + AO, for example), or multiple SMGs in the kinetic/top slot (Multimach, The Dawning's SMG, etc.). Furthermore, SMGs without a fast reload or a way to circumvent it feel like a waste, and while Dark Ether origin trait does circumvent reloads (and helps with getting JF to activate), that origin trait is going to be less reliable once this seasonal artifact is kaput. The ether orbs are also sometimes unsafe to touch, requiring the user to wade into up-close danger (which is bad in hard modes). If we opt to shoot them, then that requires spending ammo: due to this being a submachine gun, we may find ourselves reloading empty mags, and thus heavily mitigating the utility of activating the orbs -- circumventing reload. These are all not too big issues on other weapons... but on this weapon, even at 600 rpm (which is "slow" for a SMG), I felt how awkward or lacking it could be. Anyone should be able to tell at first glance that Loose Change + JF is pretty much a necessity on this one, if we're going for JF at all. That'll free up gauntlet armour slots for orb generation, rather than reload, as well.

[@ziggymugstube]

If you run it with another dark ether reaper weapon, then you can reload and overflow while stowed using the other weapons ether charges. Then you back and forth between the two. The stasis gl works well.

[@gibbsy7.391]

Thanks for mentioning this, I didn't know if it could overflow whilst stowed. The vid had me wondering if it was better just to jolt with the smg and then put it away and switch to another gun with the same origin. Similar to running double harmony.

[@patrickdecker4124]

I feel like the reload is trash purposefully to force you to use the reaper trait. But those are bullets you aren't spending on jolting feedback 😢

[@oneandonlyjark]

Are you saying to use another weapon to make ether orb charges, while keeping this SMG stowed and activating the charges to reload it (the SMG)?

[@ziggymugstube]

@oneandonlyjark yea, as you can just walk into the charges and reload both weapons and overflow.

[@chrisreynolds6585]

totally aligned, I did get a loose change + jolting feedback, it can be fun and was by far the best one I have dropped

[@Tuck44]

Good call. Not every weapon can be the best but it has a nice niche with the champion stuns. Might keep one in my vault.

[@D2-Breakneck]

eddy current would have been amazing on this weapon. it could have been a replacement for those who haven’t done vesper’s for the ar

[@Tuck44]

CoolGuy, would love to see a summary of best smg perks for dueling. When is kinetic tremors worth using? What about target lock? What archetypes benefit most from damage perks for ttk shifts, etc.? Keep up the great work!

[@failfurby]

Kinetic Tremors is almost entirely a PvE perk, I've never gotten it to proc in PvP

[@marcosgonzalez8774]

​@@failfurby tremors is used in pvp to extend SMG range. Not by a lot but it can help sometimes. Sometimes.

[@GodofRandom]

​@marcosgonzalez8774 Cammy Cakes did a video a while back using KT Multimach to not only extend TTK, but using the tremors to detonate Tangles made by Facet of Purpose on prism builds. Niche, but another use.

[@lastwymsi]

KT is handy for enemies that use Overshields/DR% & great when using PeaceKeepers since the KT damage is buffed by the exotic too. Aka. Throw it on if youre up against Void Titans and Stasis Locks because they take more bullets to kill

[@GodofRandom]

@@lastwymsi PK damage buff only applies to PvE, just like Lucky Pants.

[@MayorOfFlavor]

Haven’t played the game in a while. Still tune in for your vids. Hope your health situation has improved and stabilized. Be well man thanks for the content.

[@oneandonlyjark]

A video is a production; a title; works; medium.

[@an_oracle]

Its worth mentioning this gun being used with Peace Keepers. The whole gimmick of Peace Keepers is a dmg boost to smg and free reload on every stow. But this makes voltshot kinda worthless on it, cuz ur breaking the synergy. Since this is the only smg that gets jolting feedback, its valuable on that exotic. Personally, ive been running Pugilist + Jolting Feedback. Pair this up with Peacekeepers and Huckleberry for a good time.

[@cmdrmeldoc59]

I tried it with Loose Change and jolting feedback. The thing is, loose change only procs when you get the jolting feedback off. If you miss a bunch of shots during your mag or kill a bunch of trash ads, you need to pace yourself. You can't be spamming the smg at targets because you simply won't get the jolting feedback proc unless you're hitting a bigger target. The problem there is you wouldn't want to use the primary on those targets anyway, and it feels a bit like you're using the base weapon and occasionally get the perks to proc. You can't be intentional with it unless you're tap-firing. I then tried Attrition Orbs and Frenzy. It immediately felt a lot better. I was using recuperation to help me stay alive, and Frenzy helped the sluggish feeling of the weapon alongside the dps to mow down those ads. I could play super aggressively, and not feel like I was sacrificing anything. Idk if there's a lot of weapons out there that does that combo, but not many that also match the surge of something like Anarchy or Acrius to compliment an aggressive playstyle like most SMGs want from you. Attrition Orbs also worked way more consistently than Jolting Feedback and felt really good because of it. Maybe because I used it in conjunction with Arc Siphon on my helmet, but still.

[@DrStunJosh]

I feel like this gun has a very archaic perk that should get a rework-Thresh. It’s almost like finding Pulse Monitor or Ensemble on a weapon. If Thresh was reworked to apply additional super energy based on dmg type (or collective corresponding elemental pick-ups) AND provide prismatic energy to the opposing force, I think it’d be a really nice PvE perk. It could synergize extremely well with elemental perks or Collective Action, while also being able to fit on any subclass

[@chaoticpuncher8756]

Building in the new synergy weapon mod would make it fantastic and enhanced can increase not only super energy but elemental pick up drop rate

[@DrStunJosh]

@ that exact mod exists-in so far as the synergy mod allows weapons to create elemental pickups or orbs of power.

[@DrStunJosh]

Personally, I’d be okay with Light guns giving Darkness energy through Thresh (and visa versa). But I think the percentage is so small, currently, that adding the prismatic effect wouldn’t require greater energy gain.

[@lilbert2004]

Bro your videos have helped me clear out so many trash weapons I thought were good. Thanks for the best semi in depth reviews on these weapons.

[@oneandonlyjark]

I could understand from the launch of Act II, and this episode in general, why one should, could and would want to chase Jolting Feedback for "Nox": the dark ether origin trait synergizes with it, it is both new & unique for this SMG (other arc SMGs don't have it), and it doesn't require a kill + reload like Voltshot does. Thus, that being said, it would be fairly obvious that Loose Change is the way to go here for perk synergy -- Nox's stat deficits notwithstanding (withstanding, the argument for LC is even more pertinent). My perspective is that LC noticeably improved since its introduction, iirc. Quite frankly I'd have a hard time picking between this and Eddy Current, which was also introduced for Arc weapons last year and massively buffed this year, if both perks rolled in the same column for a hypothetical arc weapon. I probably wouldn't even choose Feeding Frenzy or whatever else anymore if I could choose those two for arc weapons rolling Voltshot or JF. I'd still pick Impulse Amplifier, Air Trigger or Perpetual Motion over any of the reload perks, on a case-by-case basis ofc.

[@Mario-ky2oy]

Coolguy, I didnt hear you go over attrition orbs too much. Tbh, its been a godsend for me with jolting feedback

[@absencesilhouette8048]

Yea, dude just skipped over the ACTUAL best option, especially this season. This weapon this season is the best for ability regen cuz of the artifact, hands down.

[@MattBryant-y6n]

My answer to the reload problem is alloy mag. My attrition orbs jolting feedback roll is designed to just hold the trigger until the clip is empty and proc that .8 multiplier.

[@rickp3131]

Great video as always. I was shocked when you mentioned thresh/jolting feedback. I'm mainly playing arc because of jolting feedback and the only 4th column perk I'm interested in. I almost deleted it last night because I want attrition orbs in the 3rd column. I paused the video to see I deleted it or not didn't. I was using the the elder's tomb tonic for a while and hardly got any to drop. I stopped using the tonic and actually received more but still not many. I may have received 10 total with only one getting jolting feedback. I was mainly getting heating up and redirection. I stopped playing tomb of Elders after hearing the tonics are messed up. Hopefully it's fixed.

[@xAbsynthex]

I kept a few rolls, but the minute we get a better archetype with the same perk pairings, I’m sending this shit straight to the gulag

[@Nxt2nothing3133]

I got one with attrition/jolting and alloy mag that really helps the slow reload. Feels pretty good to use. Keeping an eye out for thresh/ jolting with alloy

[@supernoob5993]

As a day one player I don't chase rolls, I keep the best one or two and carry on playing and still get the job done. Used approx 15%-20% of weapons and armour always have -1 max vault

[@Stardawg21]

Thresh Jolting was the first thing I thought of for my harmony warlock, wish smgs were still good in pve though they feel outclassed nowadays

[@tylerlloydboone]

Thresh was the first and only perk I wanted on this smg. Even before the roaming super changes. Win button good. Wish there was a system in the game to get the perks you want on the gun. 😮

[@EtotheFnD]

Thanks for gettin nerdy with it buddy...👊

[@jaharifaulkner4011]

a good pvp roll if you can work around it is unrelenting rampage... it gives you a damage boost for that first kill then health and more damage on the second, so as long as you're playing your engagements smart it makes for a fun little smg.

[@ccruse1112]

I had the loose change jolt roll and sharded it for the thresh jolt roll...I think both Ikelos and subjunctive do the jolting add clear thing better than this so I leaned into a unique perk it has that the rest don't...Its only true completion is the old Seventh Seraph VY-7 which has better stats all around but the perks don't hold up in this sandbox (its really time for Bungie to normalize weapon stats within frames).

[@Saint-8]

Noticed its one of the few weapons with thresh + damage perk so thats why I like it a lot

[@emanresu8968]

Thresh+feedback is the only roll I am keeping of this, you had the right idea but wrong class. Arc hunter solves the reload problem, but being a weak SMG it falls off in harder content great. GMs or later expert onslaught waves I might as well just wait for old age to kill the enemies

[@stop_this_train8772]

Only roll that I would be interested in is unrelenting/pugilist + jolting. It's unique to this weapon. Otherwise just get the dungeon auto w orb/strategist + jolting. Even still it feels bad and the mag is too low to be effective in most content.

[@aots66]

It has always blown my mind how an SMG, of any kind in Destiny, could have a starting mag as low as these have. It's supposed to be a close range, snappy, bullet hose. But these feel sluggish, unimpressive, and always live and die by their perks. They need at least 30 rounds at base, and these 600s need to either hit harder or have a bump to their stat package. Also might I add that all of the smgs with good mag sizes also have the best reload speeds....talk about best of both worlds! 🙄

[@LegendOfFarore]

i got one with jolting loose change and alloy mag that has been pretty fun

[@bc8092]

I’ve been running with pugilist and jolting feedback, with the artifact perk to generate ionic traces, this thing goes hard on prismatic titan

[@gilbertjasso2172]

I was so excited for this smg ☹️ it just feels bad the dungeon auto is night and day better!

[@philipt2798]

Sweet, that's the roll i have saved. I was aiming for eddy current, but turns out that they were too lazy to put that as a roll for this arc smg...

[@RobRush]

I snagged an unrelenting jolting feedback roll with alloy mag, but It doesn't look like jolting feedback procs unrelenting. It's hard to tell. For arc SMG I've been loving the 900rpm subjunctive with stats for all and voltshot.

[@absencesilhouette8048]

This is this the only other smg that can be used in endgame that doesnt eat up an exotic slot. Also intrinsically overload and very easily cuz automatic and performance overall is better than its conterpart being the one of the best smgs in the game is the multimach and this does everything that can do and more and its charging your abilities this season cuz of the artifact so you can take off overload.

[@Xander--gd5lb]

Jolting Feedback is weird. Jolt is best at add clear in low/mid tier content, but this perk comes up somewhat infrequently. There, most enemies will die in a few shots - long before you proc Jolting Feedback. Compared to Voltshot that is active as soon as you get that first kill. Jolting Feedback to me pushes the debuff to a high-end content focus. Where you’re shooting targets repeatedly and enemies aren’t just falling over. But in those instances, Jolting Feedback is better on a weapon with more range like the dungeon AR. Idk, it’s weird. Basically here to say - don’t toss your Voltshot SMGs and Sidearms yet…

[@Trabreno30]

The weapon has so much potential, it’s one of the best looking smg frame models in the game, but its stats are too low. I think I’m just going to stick with my ikelos smg with voltshot.

[@TeamTechSkaters]

I dont bother with reload because of the minigame of shooting the dark ether orbs. Unrelenting, attrition, or loose change are what I'm looking for

[@Maniactiger]

Would Thresh work better with jolting feedback if you're running raiju's harness on arc hunter? Cause doesn't that help super gains?

[@mrslimsify]

Funny, I was watching another vid before this and was playing in Alters. It was the first drop I got, and it has Loose Change+Jolting. Well have to see how it is

[@swagasaurus8568]

It's a pity. If the gun had a little bit more reserves and way more reload speed it would be awesome. I was rocking one with attrition orbs/jolting feedback with arc hunter and flow state and the gun feels completely different because of the extra reload speed. Hopefully it will be buffed in the future.

[@smolls83]

Delurking- long time watcher first time commenter. Gonna hard disagree here. The play is to lean into dark ether reaper and swap between guns. Get a kill with the GL, overflow the SMG, swap over, kill, overflow, rinse and repeat. That way you don’t need a mediocre perk (Loose Change) and can take a really good PvE perk in attrition orbs. But the real answer is get a better SMG. The handling on this things blows even in PvE where you care less about it.

[@ricklazb7493]

Been using unrelenting/jolting feedback for pve and pugilist/vorpal for PvP. I actually enjoy using it in PvP, melts guardians relatively quick

[@failfurby]

Haven't got one, but I am a fan of 600s in general so I might have to farm for it a bit. Ik the reload on them is bad, esp on this one, but i enjoy their fire pattern.

[@lolosh99]

I’m making a prediction. In Episode 3 Heresy we will get a better envious arsenal/bait and switch rocket and a better version of this smg

[@renegademikey2458]

Precision frame SMGs other than Shayura should be buffed on the reload and handling side ngl

[@Silo1776]

I’ve found that my Tarnished Mettle with volt shot demo is more enjoyable. Faster grenades, way more range, and fast reloads.

[@tj6111]

I just happened to get the god roll which is why I probably didn’t notice the terrible reload

[@TheFawse]

I deleted the Attrition + Jolting roll by accident, but honestly I wasn’t even broken up about it. I have the same roll on Pyroelectric and ARs feel way better than SMGs atm

[@marshallman402]

The auto rifle absolutely shits on this gun. Probably one of the worst seasonal weapons in a while

[@fysy9989]

I think I am happy with my stats for all + voltshot subjunctive

[@zeykshade]

I find that I rarely have to reload the thing. Run into the dark ether balls or shoot them. Still, not really going to use it given a kinetic + roaming super build is far better.

[@blakestewart7533]

Alloy mag is also really nice. That plus loose change makes it a stupid fast reload, and is a servicable workhorse role.

[@grimmSOL]

Might want to look up the definition, possibly examples, of a workhorse weapon...lol

[@blakestewart7533]

​@grimmSOL Hey, I use what I like. To me, a workhorse is a gun that doesn't need any synergy.

[@lavendergoosegames9336]

Farming for this has been my priority since it was available 😕 not a single good role.for now I'm taking a break till Bungie rewoks the tonic system on the 17th . To emphasize it's the weapon that won't drop for me I have all the other grs for this episode and feel it's a waste of my time to farm till this change. Hope you're health stays good and hope you have a wonderful holiday time

[@podrumz]

Worked so hard to get the rolls for this. Absolutely hate it. 😂 Whilst subjunctive/ikelos exist, it just doesn’t cut it. Even with JF. Propellant, on the other hand…

[@Chava_146]

Recent TWID said giving mag boost to smg’s in episode 3, but that doesn’t fix the issue of the stats. We’ll see.

[@christimson6233]

I have the thresh/ jolting feedback. It felt decent on a hunter amplified build, but as soon as I tried it with anything else it was awful. Not worth it.

[@shawlawrenceYT]

Ikelos is still better, but the brigands law sidearm has always felt better at proc’ing jolt if you are close up.

[@vr6trooper]

What if you’re running peace keepers and don’t need to worry about reloading

[@JKershaw]

seems like this gun was purposefully under fueled to make the dungeon auto look even better.

[@BahamutBreaker]

I feel like this archetype NEEDS Frenzy. Without the huge Handling and Reload buffs from Frenzy, this archetype just feels bad.

[@xAJAxY]

We need more catalysts. So many neat exotic weapons without

[@DeeGama15]

Ben farming for this weapon with tonics since it's been available and still haven't gotten it with jolten feedback SMH wish they would've just let us craft weapons this season/episode

[@rhyshuber9981]

I just wish they’d stop releasing weapons in 2024 that require you to run a specific perk to compensate for garbage stats

[@genkilabs]

This is the only tonic I don't have yet, and it never drops for me grrrrrr

[@dragonmaster7429]

How are you focusing for this weapon

[@shrigma6163]

0:59 say that again

[@sinematicks3108]

attrition jolting is awesome

[@TheLogan771]

noxious vetiver makes me feel nauseous whenever I use it. glimmer and gunsmith rep is my favorite roll on it

[@pirate_duck4985]

Kinda bummed about this one. I use a Feeding Frenzy x Voltshot Ikelos on my Gifted Conviction build, CQC Jolt Weapon gets the DR up real fast. So a Jolting Feedback SMG seemed like it would be a great successor!! Nope! Will stick to Ikelos if I want the Arc SMG. Just makes me all the more frustrated with Bungie! They bting back POE/Tomb of Elders it has ALL the potential to be awesome & then they have an infusion fuel at best SMG & admittedly an awesome Shotty! But nothing else!? Not even a hint of Dregs Potato either!?

[@HeadPhoneKid5897]

I’m so lucky I’m an arc hunter main. I got thresh w jolting fb and it feels AMAZING 1,500 kills on it rn

[@frostmourne1986]

Honestly the only reason I'm using it is because I still don't have the dungeon AR.

[@jus10moowahmoua32]

Just use the seasonal arc pulse with jolting feed. Still waaaaay better than this smg :(

[@Cybernihlis]

the only time I'm gonna be using this smg is on arc hunter where the reload stat doesn't matter

[@l_steve_l]

What is wild is that this is the roll I have... and I still think its missing the mark. And I play 99% PvE. (My Roll: Fluted/Extended - Appended/Accurized - Loose Change - Jolting Feedback)

[@austintacious7976]

Jolting and attrition orbs. 13 orbs per yellow bar

[@Silencers]

The poor reload and handling really hurts this gun. Wish it had slightly better stats

[@brenttaylor968]

This gun needed to have thresh attrition orbs to find any use

[@rd7965]

I just wish it has Frenzy on the left 😉

[@folekbarton6998]

Man y’all are sleeping on this thing with the gifted conviction hunter. You must be close range to apply the resist to damage. Imo this works better than pyroelectric propellant on that build. I have It with loose change and joltfeed. It rips!

[@stevenmielke1662]

As someone who hates long reloads this will be an easy decision. Ha, ha!

[@Dom-df7lr]

If you don’t use this gun while amplified then the gun isn’t worth using but with ark its really good

[@johndo2761]

(Waiting for the plug one adept weapon review) ❤❤❤

[@papertowels9162]

I wanted to like this gun, but that reload speed is a no go. Reload speed is everything to me.

[@kupo6905]

If you play smg, most likely you are not in a gm and you kill shit fast. Voltshot is better than feedback since you'll kill multiple ads before feedback procs while volt can be easely chained, so ikelos it is

[@StrengthOfSamson45]

The reloading is the only thing that annoys me with this pistola

[@markmorrison9089]

Good vibes

[@shadowknight2400]

I agree with some other comments. Gun just feels absolutely terrible. Not worth investing into imo especially with other jolting feedback options.

[@Iamhimothy-11]

Jolting feedback is meant for endgame pve so the pulse is 1 million percent better because u can’t be in the face of GM champs with this puny gun. If u r in their face, ur using special or heavy , consecration or finishing. So if it’s trivial everyday easy content then voltshot is by far superior. I’ll take any sidearm or smg with volt shot in low tier easy content all day everyday. This gun sucks.

[@vagrantpistol]

Jolting Feedback and Attrition orbs is way better and more efficient. No thank you to thresh.

[@LimySilver2]

Gonna pass on this one. No arc smg has come close to subjunctive anyway

[@serballista]

They could add 50 more guns to the game tomorrow & I might be interested in 1 of those 50. This ain’t it for me lol

[@axe2grind244]

Hope you’re doing well CG. The Chiefs on the other hand, might give you heart attack lol.

[@iponce2]

Fingers crossed they get upset early in the playoffs. Sick of people talking about em, I want to see some new teams in the spotlight. Bills Lions SB would be phenomenal, and I'm not a true fan of either team.

[@axe2grind244]

@ I know Cool is a big fan but I am beyond sick of them…and the way they’re winning makes it 10x worse lol.

[@jonasferreira8271]

This gun feels like trash, its a pass for me

[@iponce2]

Could you elucidate? "Trash" is vague. Gunfeel matters a lot to me personally, so I'm curious for real

[@andrewg9978]

I assume he means overall There's also much better choices so yeah that's a pass from me too dawg

[@jus10moowahmoua32]

U spend too much time shooting and reloading and u barely kill anything or proc jolt. Its just feeling so slow and boring to use. Went back to ikelos smg and its feels 20x better

[@samvakarian]

​@@jus10moowahmoua32100%. I don't even have one with jolting and my ikelos w voltshot feels like it jolts and kills faster.

[@-Alpeter]

​@@jus10moowahmoua32 i just use it because I like using different weapons. But hey y'all can use the same weapon if y'all want.

[@WakingDreams34]

havent watched yet, the ONE roll best be UNRELENTING JOLTING FEEDBACK lol. first arc weapon with both unrelenting as well as subclass synergy through jolt

[@AndrewOnYoutube]

Guy, you are so Cool

[@limitbreaker9797]

This episode just isnt for me, usually i would grind for god rolls but i literally said “good enough roll, not touching this activity again” and went to play other games

[@MrNuclearz]

I guess you could say the stats are pretty noxious.

[@lorddarkflare]

Missed opportunity to call its stats noxious.

[@Grand-CS]

I don’t have a god roll Ikelos so this is my only option

[@browe091]

Subjective is an awesome arc smg with voltshot. I find myself wanting to use that over this new smg.

[@Grand-CS]

@ oh cool, I’ll try and get one

[@giovannibovino4119]

Air trigger COOKS 💯

[@wmbedsole1]

Still no jolt feed back