I Have This Old Gun: Norwegian Model 1914 Pistol

[@pclayton5063]

I bought one of these from a pawn shop in Phoenix, Arizona for $50 back in 1973. I was in the Air Force at the time and living in the barracks. After I purchased the pistol the Security Police were waiting for me when I returned to base. I guess the pawn shop was smart enough to call the base and say I purchased the gun. They cops "allowed" me to keep it in their armory until I separated from the Air Force. I ended up pawning the gun myself in 1975 as I was reentering the Air Force and didn't need to drag the gun around with me. Wish I had kept it.

[@col.mustard1233]

I recently purchased one of these, I was looking because of coming across a couple of the slide releases and have put them on my other 1911s, as a lefty I love the placement right at my knuckle so I don't have to adjust my grip to change a mag.

[@superkjell]

Greetings from Norway. Please don't call Kongsberg - "Konigsburg" we are very much not German. Also, for us Norwegians, the most important and valuable of these pistols, are the ones we call "Lunch-box Colts" - which are guns often with no markings or serial numbers, which where smuggled out of the factory in parts during the war, and supplied to the Norwegian resistance. Somewhere between 250 and 500 of these where made before the people responsible were discovered and had to escape to Sweden.

[@MsAkmc]

Hello! And greetings from Ohio . I just watched a movie called the” twelfth Mann “ and the main star of the film “jan” uses one of these pistols to get away from the Germans. Really good movie about the Norwegian resistants. I own a ww2 colt 1911 passed down from my grandfather, it’s my favorite pistol to shoot !

[@LUR1FAX]

@@MsAkmc Yep! Just like in the original version "Ni Liv" (Nine Lives) from 1957. Jan Baalsrud uses a Kongsberg 1914 pistol in the films.

[@billwaterhouse5894]

Tusen takk for that mentions, great show but need to watch pronunciations better.

[@TheGeorgia53]

Do more of these "I Have This Old Gun," and "What's It Worth?"

[@bosse641]

Cool history.

[@ontarioshooter9048]

They wanted that stoppin Powah 💥

[@OneShotNick92]

Interesting

[@ontarioshooter9048]

Cuz they don't make a .46.

[@thesheepman220]

Still one the best pistol designed today , I had a colt 911 gold cup brilliant shooter, why did the Norwegian pick the 45 acp cal stopping power 38’s 9 mm don’t do it like 45 acp

[@petermagnus9919]

Karl Egil Hanvik have written a execellent book on the subject "Kongsberg-Colten" but alas it is in Norwegian. The gist of it is that the Norwegians already had a "modern" service handgun in the form of the 1893 Nagant, and the replacement for the Krag 1894 was expected to use up all capacity at Kongsberg. This left them with a lot of time for testing, in the early 1900s they deemed all submissions as either too unreliable or too weak. This resulted in the decistion to buy a semi-ato being postponed, so in 1909 they tried again. And this time they started by finding the cartridge, first by shooting a lot of different media. Then by comandeering the mourge of the "Rikshospital" Norways bigest hospital, and shooting the corpses as they came in, to much protests by the hospital staff. All this research resulted in a 9mm cartridge being proposed, basicly a current Austro-Hungarian experimental round submitted to Norway a few years prior. However the Norwegians wanted a locked breech handgun and tehy liked the locked breech browings very much, and had learned from the US trials that changing the calibre of a locked breech gun is very tricky(look at savage). So they landed on the carttridge having to be at least 9mm of a certain power in alocked breech action, the 1911 then came along in its 1910 guise and it was an instant hit. Remember now that the Norwegians was testing everything from .46 Schoboe(close to a modern magnum) down to the Sundgaard 6.35 and everything in between, so the power of the .45 wasnt as frightening to them as one would belive when looking at continental conteporaries. The .45ACP was only the third most powerful round they tested. From then on it was only a question of logistics, the technical data package was recieved from Colt, not FN. And the outright purchase of the patents was only made directly to Colt, not FN, so it is in fact a licensed Colt, not an FN. As for ammunition production I do not understand the documentary, all small countries of the time did their own manufacture of all smallarms munitions. And as Norway was moving on from the Nagant and the Lefaucheux to a single new handgun there would only be a single production line moving forward, if that had been in 9mm long, 9mm Short, .46 Schoboe, 9x19 or .45 ACP would have been the same from a logistics perspective.

[@badiuzzamansatti6391]

Thanks God I have this unique gun with all parts numbered and with Nazi wing on it , it's a fantastic hand gun.

[@leiferiklund4621]

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