Nuclear Power Can Save the Poor and the Planet | James Walker | EP 447

[@zoltanrudolf]

The mass media has done a very good job of confounding nuclear power with nuclear weapons. The two are totally different. Nuclear power is very safe. Australia needs it!

[@NeinBreaker]

And when they don't do that, they bring up Chernobyl and Fukushima. Which were both examples of terrible management instead of the norm.

[@Extreme_Prejudice]

we have 2 reactors already, but we must make more solar panels and carbon credits. Also Australia has some old mines that we could get going reasonably quickly if you want to send the money and Workforces

[@benchapple1583]

Correct me if I'm wrong. Australia is going nuclear, they're building submarines with the British, aren't they?

[@chrisstokie2361]

Solar and wind power won't even run all the internet and computer hubs, never mind industry and infrastructure.

[@solidtank7957]

​@@zdrawexExactly, and then the vaping "study" they google to prove you wrong used eight second puffs at one hundred and twenty (120!) watts. Trying to explain how that's intentionally sabotaging the study and how literally no one would ever vape at such power and temperature is like talking to a wall. The authorities said it's bad, therefore it is indisputable fact for many people.

[@TheEngineeringHub]

As a PhD Engineer myself I love these technical conversations on the JBP podcast. What makes me a bit disappointed is that it gets a low view count. Kudos to Dr. Peterson for shining light on these extremely important topics!

[@stevep927]

Unfortunately dumbness is now abundant in the US. A cat sliding down a stair rail will get millions of views

[@pastverb1]

I know right? He adds huge value to the conversation by thinking through these technical public policy matters "out loud" for the rest of our benefit.

[@Rodfriend]

Wonder your opinion on thorium bed reactors

[@stevrgrs]

At least he’s getting views. This guy would be covered in dust without the JBP influence 😂 What’s extra sad is to see JBPs subscribers count vs these noname idiots pulling pranks or running around in their huge mansions with their “fam”. We are in the first steps of “Idiocracy” :( Start buying stock in Gatorade ! 😂

[@Hunter-wb2jl]

@theengineershub, yeah ngl it would benefit JP greatly to respond to some of the comments under his videos. Showing a desire to reciprocate education might, in my opinion, go to retain more genuine viewers.

[@cameronparkes6629]

Energy scarcity is very profitable

[@markovichglass]

N.G.O.s , laundry money around to "help the poor people" " the poor people" created poor by their definition and society they created and illuminate. The paper they claim has value is the same paper they created. "Democracy knocking st your door" military industrial complex waiting to drop bombs to sell that land to blackrock contracts to rebuild the land they destroyed to generate profits for their buddies.

[@robyncohen8542]

Precisely

[@lightingman117]

Great take! I'd add: fake scarcity is very profitable (Energy, Health-technologies, Diamonds, Food, etc.)

[@lisajones1438]

​@@lightingman117I'll edit: monopoly is very profitable

[@lightingman117]

@@lisajones1438 Agreed. Though IMO the main problem (this comes from Thomas Sowell's Basic Economics Books) Isn't the monopoly itself, it is the bad regulations that stifle innovation/competition. Those bad regulations get passed into law because of the monopoly pumping money into legislation. Get money out of politics pleeasseee.

[@afringedgentian5426]

Dearest Dr. Peterson, I just got the news that you have lost a beloved friend and colleague in Rex Murphy. My heart goes out to you in your loss and grief. I cherish your very first interview with him, when you were so ill and fragile and raw, and he was so tender and gentle with you. His was a man’s sensitiveness and tenderness and tact and it was heart melting. And every sentence he spoke was pure poetry. I don’t have words for the sense of grief and loss I feel and I know yours is so much greater. I would gather you into a hug if I could. Since I can’t I hope this little note will serve as a hug. “He was a man; take him for all in all. We shall not look upon his like again.” With Ruth Anne’s love P. S. I hope that the Daily Wire will prioritize on releasing the documentary you two did together, as a tribute to a great, and a good, man.

[@wispfire2545]

Well spoken.

[@1526andrews]

Ah I hadn't realised he had passed. A fine man and proper journalist

[@droyal18able]

I'm sure he appreciates being reminded about it by random people on every video.

[@johnowens5342]

Deepest sympathies for you loss Dr Peterson.

[@afringedgentian5426]

@@droyal18able Dr. Peterson knows me by name. I’m not a rando.

[@robertsayre9341]

I love Dr. Peterson. But that’s the most excited I’ve ever seen him in an interview. He should become the spokesman for this company.

[@simoneweidinger]

That's true, he could be a spokesman for the nuclear industry in general.

[@FernandoWINSANTO]

The world needs more climatologues but thanks God there are more than enough carbondioxydologues.

[@jamesjohnson7365]

I've been using Nano-nuclear's reactor public documentation for research papers for a couple of years now. I've been heavily advocating and trying to change minds to favor nuclear. The company's designs have been an incredibly helpful means of advocating for reactors. Most of the engineers in my school are highly in favor of nuclear power, and advocate for the removal of wind.

[@johnhilderbrand9204]

Incredible oxymoron. I live in a world where it is not feared to tempt nuclear Apocalypse with bombs,but we can't create energy with the same technology, If people were really that against nuclear power we shouldn't be provoking it at the same time

[@toseltreps1101]

advocating for nuclear is stupid and so are you

[@Extreme_Prejudice]

@@johnhilderbrand9204 this is bait

[@fractalmadness9253]

It’s just capitalism to let them all fairly compete in the market and see who wins.

[@mushroomhead86117]

How efficient are they? The current reactors are less than 3%

[@raphalexx_18]

What an excellent discussion. As a mechanical engineer (and Nuclear energy advocate) I would relish the opportunity to work with someone like James on such a revolutionary technology. Also, Dr Peterson's ability to pick up and summarize such technical information with ease is sublime.

[@Extreme_Prejudice]

high end actual science vs well..

[@IIMiller13]

Most of the reason why we are not using nuclear power is the big oil, and coal conglomerates are not willing to give up their power to give the world free energy. It's about the money and the power they hold over the governments.

[@Not_Sure_2505]

As a nuclear-mechanical engineer, I approve this message. The industry has some very smart, highly passionate, accountable, and high integrity engineers, both large scale and in the SMR world.

[@doug892]

We need James on more Podcasts. This conversation needs to spread. Timcast IRL seems like another big pod that could be a good fit.

[@AuctionJunky]

Probably moreso his culture war show. As a fan of Tim’s, IRL has a tendency to miss the mark of utilizing specialized guests. But a culture war episode with James and Daniel Turner would be solid.

[@MrJoelBeasley]

James is coming on my show in a few weeks. If you have questions for him comment here

[@stacey3310]

Wow, I didn't know I could enjoy a podcast about nuclear energy. It filled me with optimism for the future. Thank you for this conversation with such an intelligent innovator.

[@kylebramhall2604]

This should be shared as widely as possible. Thanks for backing the nuclear push!

[@grahammoffatt995]

I have had many discussions with a family member (boiler mechanic) and former mentor (contributed to uranium mining around elliot lake) Nuclear power generation is by far the best source of baseload power generation. The disaster at Fukushima could have been a completly different situation if the reactor was CANDU style.

[@kaasmeester5903]

Not just baseload either, nuclear power plants can be made load-following as well. The ones in France can, IIRC

[@grahammoffatt995]

@@kaasmeester5903 Practical Engineering has a excellent video on the operating principals of electrical grids. Nuclear certainly can ramp up or down to follow loads however (to my understanding) that is still considered to be a base load, not a short term reaction to drops in frequency. That's where IC engines turning generators shine due to quickly being able to change stator speed and having a wide range of rotational speeds available. I love the idea of using gantry cranes to stack mass and take advantage of gravity, or using flywheels to store energy that can be deployed on a moments notice

[@axlbazz1]

How about Chernobyl? Don't you feel lied to? James said multiple times that nobody has ever died from a nuclear power plant accident. They intentionally never er mentioned Chernobyl once. I'm a big supporter of nuclear power and have been watching Jordan when he was just a professor. This is the first time I feel like he effectively lied.

[@grahammoffatt995]

@@axlbazz1 Chernobyl was a RBMK style reactor. The only technology I am a proponent of is CANDU Heavy water reactors. They are significantly more expensive but in the event of losing the heavy water coolant, the reaction diminishes significantly. CANDU is magnitudes safer. Chernobyl was also a complete screw up due to human error. I appreciate anyone critical of nuclear literally because human error is the wildcard and nuclear is high risk high reward. I think the word lie is to combative. And that's exactly why criticism is so important

[@grahammoffatt995]

I think instead of saying he lied you would take higher ground by pointing out the context of what he meant by people dying from say Chernobyl so other can have a more comprehensive understanding of what was being said. Chernobyl killed countless people directly and Its screwed up how they went in without being brought up to a competent level. He was talking generally. However cancer rates are definitely questionable for more countless reasons

[@Artmac375]

We should just call it steam power.

[@ef7480]

Lol that’s all it is really. Some people would not grasp the process...

[@tjcogger1974]

I think Dr. Peterson would have made an excellent engineer in another life.

[@GregoryShtevensh]

Any intellectual he would have been good at, so long as it was his passion

[@tjcogger1974]

@@GregoryShtevensh I don't know if that's always true. I think some people naturally possess inherent proclivities that contribute to their success in certain fields while making them less suited for others. For instance, electrical engineering requires a lot of abstract thinking and painting imaginative pictures to come up with solutions. This is because electromagnetic physics is largely invisible, and it's not nearly as intuitive as classical mechanics. I know plenty of talented mechanical engineers that don't have the temperament to study electrical, and vise versa. Although they may find the field fascinating, their brains are wired to solve physical problems on macroscopic levels. It's often less about passion, and more about inherent personality traits.

[@GregoryShtevensh]

@tjcogger1974 you're absolutely right. The personality types that make up certain trades etc. However, still... his personality will govern his passions.

[@josephm3775]

James Walker should have Jordan join the Board of Directors of NNE.

[@matsv201]

What Peterson describe as Uranium in lead is pretty much a lead reactor. Those exist and they work well and are pretty simple. There are some issues with them that have to be considered. Currently the company Sealer is marketing a reactor like that and is setting up a facility to make a prototype pretty close to where i live.

[@cath3638]

At last, some promising news on the energy front! A reason to feel optimistic about something...Thanks Dr. Peterson.

[@Not_Sure_2505]

NuScale still has a very solid design and use case. Nice to see the shoutout!

[@ricksmith7232]

This is a topic that needs discussed more. It’s crazy that we don’t have cheap relatively green energy from nuclear at least in all western countries. That would be one less bill to worry about for everyone

[@michaelcavalier8750]

I read a book about 10 years ago that covered the generation of electricity in the USA. It covered several options including nuclear. It is called "Power Hungry: The Myths of 'Green' Energy and the Real Fuels of the Future".

[@JV-lk6md]

You need to be investing in shares of Western based miners and converters. Canada, USA and Australian companies. Near term producers..Next couple of years. It's got massive supply demand issues which means prices going up for years to come. Never in a straight line and it's a volatile sector but we're talking anywhere from 5x to 20x your money depending on the company.

[@psychlops924]

People from Utah are called Utahns. As a Utahn, I can confirm

[@erikkovacs3097]

No they are called Utahamians.

[@TheOriginalJAX]

Thanks Keep it up, you're doing great work it's appreciated.

[@johnowens5342]

Thorium reactors would make a great show. They could end poverty, build cheap fuel reactors, and no leftover dangerous materials for dirty bombs later on.

[@revcrussell]

They are also completely impractical given how you have to breed U-233 and the chemistry control needed to do that online is just crazy and never been done.

[@wheel-man5319]

​@revcrussell there have been experimental thorium reactors that operated for several years. However the 🇺🇸 decided to go with uranium based reactors and that doomed thorium reactors to the experimental...

[@revcrussell]

@@wheel-man5319 Yes, but they all had problems that were never solved. Mostly due to chemistry and materials problems. The company I work for operates the largest nuclear lab in our country and I don't think it will happen. Even if they resolve the previous problems, there the problem with radiation levels that are now considered too high. These are really cool ideas but I just can't see these practical issues solved, and certainly not in the next century given how slow nuclear power progresses.

[@johnowens5342]

​@revcrussell no insult to your nuclear engineering degrees but I woùld still like a show done by one or more experts on the field and preferably the top experts.

[@revcrussell]

@@johnowens5342 Yeah, I only have one nuclear engineering degree. It doesn't matter, we will take government money to work on the problem and I know they are doing R&D on the very thorium reactors you are talking about. I know we can make the fuel, it is everything else.

[@jenniferliotta2108]

Love these talks with smart people. Know questions to ask and a well thought out answer. Thank Both of You for your WORK 💌

[@hestieful]

Extremely entertaining and educating interview! Loved how he just went with your definitions (and my super basic definitions as I was trying to keep up with you guys in my head) and explanations of the cleanest and safest energy form, but what I found entertaining was how he enjoyed your questions and smiled and sometimes laughed 😁👍

[@janicewinik4672]

Time 25:40 Although the discussion included the safety aspects of nuclear power to aquire the materials and produce nuclear power, but the one key aspect that was not discussed is how to safely and responsibly manage the toxic waste that is created from nuclear power, which remains toxic for thousands of years. This toxic waste is already adding up, and will only increase as more uses of nuclear power is adopted. A followup discussion including this subject of toxic waste management would be greatly appreciated.

[@Andrew-ps6xe]

The Yucca Mountain waste facility has been planned for decades, and safe casks for transportation have already been manufactured. The solution exists. The opposition is entirely political.

[@nathannation]

This is amazing work Jordan I can't thank you enough. Energy is everything and has the power to alter all lives with rich benefits and freedoms for ALL.

[@albertlevins9191]

Jordan, you didn't have to sell me on nuclear power. I am already sold. My big question is: Why is this amazingly safe and green power not available everywhere? How do we overcome the people opposing it? I just can't understand resistance to fission power.

[@wheel-man5319]

KGB

[@ArcanaEric]

The reason is actually quite depressingly simple: The Cold War hangover. “Nuclear” means Hiroshima and Nagasaki to most people. They think having a nuclear reactor in their city is the equivalent of installing a nuclear bomb in their backyard. The media demonized the very word for over 40 years, for multiple generations, and those people are now the people who are in power and making legislation. It’s completely preposterous, but unfortunately that IS the reason.

[@wheel-man5319]

@@timburke127 indubitably...

[@KaySu_]

@@suchislife801Are you able to back up your statement with an explanation as to why nuclear isn’t the way to go?

[@hckyplyr9285]

For many people there is an indelible association between nuclear weapons and nuclear power. Many people believe reactors can explode like Hiroshima or Hardtack Teak. Among the powers that constitute what we call the elite, however, vested interest and the desire to control and impoverish billions in pursuit of their ultimate objective of establishing a new aristocracy are what drives their refusal to release the roadblocks to cheap widely available energy of any form, but especially nuclear.

[@unconventionaleconomics]

Great Podcast! I've been advocating for nuclear energy for a long time. It drives me mad how overblown are the safety concerns and how ignored are the negatives of other types of power production that are being pushed forward politically

[@Positive_vibes_only1111]

I love Dr Peterson as a person and he has charming personality I always look upon him as my mentor❤❤❤❤❤

[@autumnleaves2766]

This was excellent. James Walker explained the technology very well and Dr Peterson, as ever, had done his homework and asked very intelligent questions. I do hope James's company will flourish. It seems like such a great idea, especially for use in remote communities and industries. I wonder if many people are needed to run the nano nuclear reactor once it is installed ? Or does it more or less run itself ? It was staggering to hear what the people in that remote community James mentioned have to spend on diesel for their generators each year. You just need some forward-thinking politicians with good advisors who understand the science to take this up and roll it out over the coming years. Wind farms and solar panels are not very efficient and are also a blot on the landscape, as well as the fact that wind farms disturb birds and wildlife and can even have a detrimental effect on the health of any people who live close to them. The way James explained it made this technology sound very safe, but the word nuclear does scare many people even though incidents like Chernobyl are very rare. Thanks to both of you for making a complex subject easier to understand for all us non scientists. 👍

[@minnamaarit]

Thank You once again for broadening my knowledge ❤

[@wesleylangat9517]

Thanks for keeping us updated! I feel sympathy and empathy for our country. low income people are suffering to survive, and I appreciate Deborah Lee Clark. You've helped my family with your advice. imagine investing $30,000 and receiving $95,460 after 28 days of trading.

[@user-nr1wz2to7u]

I began investing in stocks and Def earlier this year, and it is the best choice I've ever made. My portfolio is rounding up to almost a million and I have realized that when a stock makes it to the news, chances are you're quite late to the party, the idea is to get in early on blue chips before it becomes public. There are lots of life changing opportunities in the market, and maximize it.

[@satyanarayanshaw553]

What opportunities are there in the market, and how do I profit from it?

[@wesleylangat9517]

You can make a lot of money from the market regardless of whether it strengthens or crashes. The key is to be well positioned.

[@mahmaebahmed2599]

I would really like to know how this actually works.

[@wesleylangat9517]

All you need is a good capital and the service of a professional broker, with those your investment will most certainly produce high yields.

[@teddypeddy]

Could you please make sure that guest record high quality audio? Makes it more professional, pleasant and easy to listen when both are equally high in bitrate. A separate phone memo recording is better than the standard audio quality of a zoom call recording… Really important subject so is a shame it hurt my ears a tiny bit, hope this might help in the future!

[@nyChannel09]

Dont complain. Be grateful that you are able to consume this for free! You (and the 6 others that liked your comment) dont have to watch this video if you cant physically do it.

[@KaySu_]

@@nyChannel09It obviously wasn’t a complaint, it was a respectfully put suggestion for improvement; which most people appreciate. This person is clearly a fan of the Pod.

[@KaNoMikoProductions]

@@nyChannel09 Or, hear me out, steps could be taken to improve the sound quality, that way people could enjoy the informative interviews and the people being interviewed could get their information out to more people.

[@julieconnard4372]

​@nyChannel09 Of course it was not a complaint. Your own comment is reflexively negative and rather stupid. He obviously was making a positive suggestion - one that I agree with, as I had trouble understanding the guest, and therefore missed some of what he was saying. Creators are happy to receive constructive criticism.

[@buddhistsympathizer1136]

I can hear him perfectly fine

[@libbie2525]

Absolutely love the summaries! Brilliant discussion!

[@artkeyes4784]

thorium nano MSR already done,

[@matthewknight5641]

Jordan Peterson changed my life in such a positive way. Thankyou sir for all you do and all you stand for

[@scottrisley4467]

Nano Nuclear Energy is going to be huge for places like the DR and the cities they are building as well as many countries discovering this is just a smart Idea to power smaller grids ! NNE is doing great !

[@afringedgentian5426]

Dearest Dr. Peterson, I do love to see you kidding around with engineers. I grew up in a community of engineers and the joshing takes me back to childhood. I don’t understand much… I’m an English major… but I like to listen. I am SO EXCITED you were on Pints With Aquinas and cannot wait for that episode to air! Less than a month and I get to come see you in Boston, and meet you, and offer my hand and give you my love in person. Your faithful Ruth Anne

[@kitty5104]

Anyone paying attention knows that nuclear energy is the way foward. It's that simple, we need to get over the fear and incompetence.

[@masterphillips]

Cheaper energy-> Increased self-determination-> Decreased authoritative dependence-> Well obviously we can't have that

[@authorcharlieboring]

My nephew is an important engineer in the nano-nuclear reactor industry. Smartest guy that I know.

[@ymwo97679]

Is he working in Ontario or New Brunswick?

[@authorcharlieboring]

@@ymwo97679 italy

[@clarenancy77]

Very interesting! My grandfather was director of the Aircraft Nuclear Propulsion project at ORNL after Weinberg. I'm very happy when I see that the fruits of their labors prove useful and promising.

[@JasmineSinclair-i3n]

Congratulations Reverend Jordan! You were able to publish an entire video without preaching the sermon to we lowly apostates. I haven't seen this in months, well done.

[@TheYouTubeGame]

What do you mean?

[@JasmineSinclair-i3n]

@@TheKZbinGame Do you have a more specific question? I will gladly answer. Otherwise, I mean what I said.

[@TheYouTubeGame]

​@@JasmineSinclair-i3n Well, a specific couple of questions, in that case. Why do you call him _reverend_ Jordan? What sermon specifically does he preach? Why do you refer to yourself and others as apostates?

[@JasmineSinclair-i3n]

@@TheKZbinGame Most people I have known vernacularly use Reverend and Preacher interchangeably. When my parents took me to church when I was young, we referred to the person who preached the gospel as "Preacher". But if you want to be technical, the more appropriate reference would be Preacher Jordan, because Reverend is a clergy specific title. But you know what I meant. Definition of Preacher: One who preaches; one who discourses publicly on religious subjects. Jordan does this on about every video, so he is therefore a Preacher. Definition of Sermon: 1 A religious discourse, especially one delivered as part of a service. 2 An often lengthy and tedious speech of reproof or exhortation. So in the first definition, a Sermon is about religion, usually designed for a religious setting, but not necessarily, or as in the second definition, it can be an exhortion of any subject that can include religion. The Bible is the book used by the Christian Religion, and their general practice is to reference text in this book when giving sermons. Their sermons commonly draw parallels between this text with present day circumstances. Jordan in nearly every video states from memory in his own words, passages in this bible, and relates them to present day circumstances. Therefore, by definition, Jordan is preaching Sermons, and that defines him as a Preacher. So "Preacher Jordan" is an accurate characterization. Definition of an Apostate: One who has forsaken the faith, principles, or party, to which he before adhered; esp., one who has forsaken his religion for another; a pervert; a renegade. I use this word more subjectively. Jordan didn't call me an Apostate, but he is speaking to a mixed audience. I watch his videos, while not as often as before, due to the interesting topics, his reasoning skills, and intellect. As most secular babyboomers, we identified with a religion earlier in life. That's how it was in the 70-80s. So, from that perspective, we have forsaken a faith. My need for status and self-righteousness isn't so intense as Jordans, that I need to delude myself into believing that morality is determined by a two-thousand year old book written by anonymous authors. If I was to find a book and claim it is the word of God, and say "Jordan, here is the word of God", because he is a rational person, he wouldn't be convinced. But with a book that a lot of other people believe, he can therefore gain status, an innate human proclivity. Status is a seesaw, to rise your status, you have to lower others, at least in your mind. So subconsciously or consciously, he sees those that don't adhere to his moral doctrines, as less; he looks down on them. So when he drawed me into his intermittent sermons with secular titles, and then virtue signals, and self-righteously criticizes the morals of people, who as a secular, I approve of, or quotes the book that has been used to judge and subjugate free thinkers like me for centuries, is no different from my perspective, than calling me lost, immoral, of lesser chatacter, or therefore an Apostate. Jordan has a right to his beliefs as I do mine, but some things are not appropriate for mixed audiences. He should preach his sermons to only those who seek them. This is why I rarely watch his videos anymore. The only reason I watched this one was because I couldn't fathom how he can inject a religious sermon into nuclear power.

[@TheYouTubeGame]

@@JasmineSinclair-i3n Thank you for the thorough answer; I genuinely appreciate the drawn-out nature and layout of your response. I asked in the first place because of the disingenuous nature of your original comment, which, if you were to say wasn't disingenuous, I'd find it hard to believe given some of the assumptions made in your second response there. I haven't watched enough of Jordan's videos to vouch one way or the other - not looking to try and defend (or criticize) his Biblical views. Two accounts, here: One, it seems rather presumptuous to state that he looks down on those that don't adhere to what he believes the standard is. I word it that way because I can't even say "his moral doctrines," as like I stated earlier, I haven't watched enough of his content to vouch either way for his Biblical views. I argue the point at all because that's not honest. You assume he's trying to up his status. Do you think people that are trying to up their status constantly make enemies? You can try to argue all you want but the fact of the matter is you don't know. Second, if you don't like being challenged in a public space, that's on you. He's allowed to share what he wants with his audience however he wants to. No one's forcing you to be here. You are simply not his audience, if that's the case. And that's ok. Whoever doesn't want to watch doesn't have to. Simple as that. To suggest that he should only say certain things because of the audience is preposterous. You can't talk ideas that way. You can't have a debate, a discourse, a discussion. And what if it's true? You don't only tell the truth in certain places to certain people. That's not honest, either.

[@simoneweidinger]

Thank you for this great conversation. Nuclear energy is such an interesting topic. Maybe you could talk to Justin Huhn or to Doomberg to continue it.

[@antoniobanderas7810]

Great discussion. They closed/decomissioned down the San Onofre Nuclear Plant here in southern california and had a friend's power utility bills skyrocket that lived near there. Wind and solar power is not dense and useful enough to power a state as congested as California that has a population of over 40 million people. Nuclear seems like a better option if we have the tech to keep waste to a minimum and the investment in nuclear infrastructure to better the technologies.

[@wheel-man5319]

Really, 'nuclear waste' is an overblown problem hyped up by opponents of nuclear power production.

[@T_bone]

The "spent" rods could be irradiated again and recycled.

[@dalerudd6330]

One thing that I did not hear mentioned was that concentrating or enriching Uranium means increasing the amount of fissile Uranium 235 in the product. Naturally occurring Uranium is about 99.3 percent non fissile Uranium 238 and about 0.7 percent Uranium 235. They convert the uranium to a gas and use a centrifuge to to remove a portion of the non fissile Uranium 238. The final product is usually up to 30 percent Uranium 235 and the rest is Uranium 238.

[@ryankuhn8590]

This man's background makes him an extremely effective interviewer. For his questions and his ideals are completely separate. It's interesting to watch.

[@Hunter-wb2jl]

JORDAN PETERSON, Life is a compilation of numerous simple-complexities.

[@4Nanook]

Jordan, I hope you don't mind but I wished to bring some clarity to the solar flare thing. The main danger these solar flares present to ground based equipment is induction of very low frequency currents in long distance transmission lines. In the old days long telegraph lines used to be an issue also but in modern days most communications is via fiber optics, not affected. The long distance transmission lines that are AC are affected because the transformers at the end have a very low impedance at the lower frequencies induced by the flares inducing larger currents and destroying transformers. Two things about the modern grid make it less susceptible, most long distance AC lines are now fused, so you have to replace a fuse, not a transformer, making it a much shorter and less expensive repair, and HVDC lines now coming into use because of their lower losses are not susceptible. Other electronics on the ground are not in danger because the atmosphere stops most of the particle based radiation, but space satellites not so shielded are. For this reason the only danger flares represent to reactors is the potential loss of external AC power.

[@Tech-Adept6106]

I feel nuclear power is the answer to our energy crisis

[@xrphoenix7194]

Our society has suffered greatly from the bad reputation of Nuclear Power

[@xrphoenix7194]

​@StefanRial elaborate

[@wheel-man5319]

KGB

[@grannyannie2948]

A lot of lefties worked hard to achieve this.

[@toseltreps1101]

it has suffered more from idiots promoting nuclear

[@wheel-man5319]

@grannyannie2948 Funded at the start by the KGB, and indubitably now encouraged by the CCP.

[@miguelletain8822]

I can confirm as a Yellowknifer that energy is outrageously expensive up here. We pay approximately 41 cents per kWh, which is by far the most expensive in Canada. The dam is only used peiodically and yes, most of our power comes from diesel. Nuclear up here would be a game changer.

[@Bombbashable]

I used to work for the Canadian Nuclear Society and now work in marketing, and I have been saying for years they need to do a complete rebranding. Think of KFC. At the beginning everyone remembered it was Kentucky Fried Chicken, but eventually that was forgotten. I would love to help if there is an opportunity!

[@mariojorge9529]

Thank you very much!

[@Treebohr]

All the science youtubers I watch have talked about nuclear being the best option. Kyle Hill especially has done a ton of work to show that nuclear power is the safest and cleanest source.

[@robdixon945]

Thanks for the show guys 🍻

[@hadensnodgrass3472]

Note to the editor: 11:12, Peterson misspoke "as a result of radioactive fusion" should be "as a result of radioactive [fission]" Fission is the splitting of a heavy(larger than ~60 amu) atom producing energy. - Source, myself, who is a nuclear engineer

[@TiagoQuadra]

Caught that too, but he used tho correct term right after. Not sure he was too excited to notice or too excited to stop to correct. He he he

[@kristensorensen2219]

He is careless and might try planning and rehearsing these programs.

[@taberzak7587]

Dr. Peterson, I would appreciate you asking for more detail on the waste generated from nuclear, next time you do a podcast with an expert on nuclear energy. I believe that is is the best cheap energy, but when to trying to convince others of this, they always bring up the waste. I don't have answers for this, beyond saying that the dangers have been exaggerated. Asking about quantities, the length of time that it's dangerous, and what facilities would be required to responsibly house it would be appreciated.

[@briankelly1240]

Imagine being one of his employees and then hear about the 20 page document Jordan proposes, 'oh man, we are getting homework soon aren't we' 😂

[@joshuatate5671]

Absolutely amazing! Please keep us informed as this progresses

[@bearowen5480]

I lived on Guam off and on for a period of about ten years. James mentioned that micro reactors could be an energy boon for Island communities. Guam would seem to me to be an ideal place for a small nuclear electrical generation plant. For many years Guam's electrical grid has been powered by a diesel or fuel oil generation plant. When I lived on Guam, the population was about 150,000. (It's now 170,000.) Islandwide electrical power was generally unrelable with occasional blackouts and even more frequent brownouts. Many residents are forced to have expensive auxiliary generator plants for backup service. Most multi unit dwellings like condo developments, apartment buildings, and hospitals have large diesel powered generators to provide at least the minimum of power for refrigerators and interior lighting. Everytime a typhoon hits the island, which is fairly often, the power would be out for a few weeks or if it was a super typhoon, for several months while public power utility workers and emergency responders from Hawaii and the US west coast struggled to restore downed distribution wires and above ground transformers and poles. Obviously, nuclear wouldn't solve that problem, only an underground distribution system can do that. Nevertheless, nuclear generation would resolve a lot of the unreliability issues that result from equipment breakdowns at the current plant. This is important from a national defense standpoint because Guam is home to major US military bases and a strategic US Navy port facility. Guam and the Northerm Marianas Islands like Saipan, Tinian, and Rota could definitely benefit from reliable small nuclear generating stations, particularly in time of war that could restrict resupplies by sea of conventional fuel for existing plants.

[@maryamjoha]

Wouldn't oceanic storms be a very dangerous damaging force to any reactors? To me that sounds like another Fukushima waiting to happen. If it would be feasible for Guam, how would engineers work around possible natural disasters playing a role in meltdowns and leaks?

[@ryccoh]

Guam's grid is such a mess lol, memories

[@nuqwestr]

@@maryamjoha These are self-contained micro-reactors which are walk-away-safe.

[@martinroncetti4134]

When Ontario went into nuclear power in the’70s, one “claim” made was that the electricity generated would be ‘to cheap to meter.’ The latter part of this discussion gives that hope once again.

[@mosthatedminnesotan]

Thank you for this one! I've been adamant on this for years since I studied it in high school! Can't wait to dive in!

[@bastrous9121]

It’s in the National Interest, World Interest. Write the document for the legislation to be approved and use every thing and contact you have to promote and get it implemented.

[@adamlambert2163]

Dr. Peterson, please have on Bret Kugelmass of Last Energy who has also ran the podcast Titans of Nuclear for around 5 years, speaking to the leaders of the industry. I think he would be one of the best people to speak about nuclear in a long form podcast. Thanks, Adam Lambert

[@wheel-man5319]

Dr Keefer would be an excellent guest too.

[@jewelssylva3738]

I've been thinking about clean nuclear energy a great deal lately. I believe this is a phenomenal step forward. I hope he can get his foot in the door sooner than later.

[@nbarealtalker]

When people keep trying to bring up climate change as an issue, I remind them the solutions are there and they either need to $h!t or get off the pot. At a certain point, you either wanna lower emissions or you just want your way. And it’s beyond obvious that climate justice is a religious dogma, not a problem solving initiative.

[@yakncast7530]

Climate change is a naturally occurring event. It's gonna happen. There are no "solutions". The only thing we as a species do is trash the air, land and waterways.

[@john-sheaffer]

If it was a dogma it would actually work. It’s just an idea to be debated now.

[@StratumPress]

"Climate change" is an excuse to hand authority and control of your life to communists. End of story.

[@mikejacob3536]

​@@john-sheafferNot really. There's lots of dogma and dogmatism that is simply wrong.

[@vozhdmeister5256]

A scam rather than a religious dogma.

[@bastiens3831]

One of rare discussions that bring me on a positive path and even wish I'd be helping. Well, if I only would, I surely could, I guess : great changes occur when visionary, methodic people initiate it... and are supported by their community, which is where madness awaits most of the time. We're talking about a game changer much, much greater than even the Internet here. But we've come to that situation where the cheaters rule wealth quite completely (as much as disastrously), and they're not letting such good spread out unless they are the ONLY ones taking advantage of it, and that along the full spectrum since these frenzied never have enough. They'd rather annihilate mankind than letting other ways develop and flourish... Which they precisely are trying to accomplish now we're facing every decade the central systemic collapse they're cranking up over and over. Anyways, thank you and your mates for grabbing that monster by the tentacles. May we collectively succeed in freeing the greater number : to rephrase Sankara it will be water for count, or champagne for c"nts.

[@bearowen5480]

Great summation at the end! Quit catastrophizing about what might happen in a hundred or two hundred years from now, and concentrate on creating cheap abundant energy today that lifts the underdeveloped world's populations out of poverty so they can care about a better quality of life including a cleaner more pleasant environment. Now that's a kind of Utopia I can buy into!

[@joncottrell5382]

Dr Peterson, an excellent and very important conversation. One thing not covered, but is very important. In my opinion one of the biggest failures of the 'Renewables' industry is what happens to the equipment when it reaches the end of it's useful life. How it is disposed of or recycled. It would be good to add that information to that already provided by James.

[@MasterYourOwnDestiny]

CONGRATS TO NANO NUCLEAR ENERGY (NNE) for ringing the bell at Nasdaq this morning!! Woohoooo!!!! 🎊🍾🎉🥳🍀🫶

[@magnus3278]

I love this episode as well as the one on fusion power! Please talk to more physicists

[@Bennett_Fourr]

First time I have ever agreed with Jordan Peterson

[@Benjanuva]

I am from Utah and we are called native Utahns. I would love to see these micro reactors.

[@O1OO1O1]

As a Native American, doesn't that go against your culture?

[@thegreenman2030]

Native Americans don’t like cheap, clean power?

[@Benjanuva]

@@O1OO1O1 I was born in America. My family was born here for generations. I am considered native. I may not be tribal (think Cherokee), nor am I imperial (think Aztec), nor am I Lamanite (older), nor even Jaredite (even older), but I consider this land my home while understanding that it was not always under the care of my ancestors. Both can be true.

[@O1OO1O1]

@@Benjanuva it's still strange to identify with a place, unnecessary in your statement, and tinged with colonialism.

[@O1OO1O1]

@@thegreenman2030 nuclear energy is not clean.

[@Manudrip]

Jordan Peterson is such a good listener

[@joarsolbakk7160]

What is the nature around you, and you recognize that and bring out the best, for harmony. Enjoyed it alot!

[@lauralindsay319]

I love that this is being discussed! I embarked on my mission to prove wind power was the way forward over 20 years ago for my dissertation at University, funny conclusion was that nuclear was not only cleaner and less invasive to the planet but also the ONLY way to produce the amount of electricity required as we evolve and need more and more! So its taken 20 years but finally i see proof i was not wrong. Ironically, i live in central Scotland in the middle of a huge windfarm that occupies all the land around my farm 😂

[@Les_S537]

Wind power *CAN* work, when it is implemented correctly. Wind power alone is unreliable, and cannot be used as a baseload power source. Wind power paired with battery storage is reliable, and can be used as a baseload power source.

[@grannyannie2948]

I hear you. Where I live in Australia they are clearing ancient forest to build solar farms to replace hydro. Lots of taxpayers money to be made from renewables that need replacing every ten years. Hmm

[@etherashe5164]

Yeah, but what about all the destruction of wildlife that wind power causes. From what I've heard, it's quite significant.

[@lauralindsay319]

@@etherashe5164 it is indeed, and because people are underinforned about the negative side of 'green energy' such as wind farms they are against using nuclear when really its the only way to produce what we demand with minimal effect on the earth

[@lauralindsay319]

@@etherashe5164 just to confirm, it is not my wind farm, I refuse to let them destroy my family's farm in order to extend it, other members of my family would happily just cash in but I am fighting it because of what I know, and where I love 🌳🌲🌳🌲🌳

[@nathanproper5516]

Great talk my grandfather has been beating the drums for nuclear power and molten salt reactors for 50 years. Love how France uses a standard reactor design. “Society needs to fundamentally use less power (not going to happen) or you have a 70% nuclear power backbone 20% ramp-able power (coal, hydro, natgas) and 10% renewables”

[@lucumi3928]

Energy and time is what we trade for productivity: a most efficient system, when thought of as one that cuts down on these two simultaneously, is the one that ends up being most productive. An abundance of energy allows multiple productive tasks to take place at the same time speeding up progress: like completing a project with one computer vs with multiple computers. Economies are like these systems, with individual members living in the economy seeking personal profit being the 'computers'. Thats why an abundance of energy strongly correlates with a thriving economy and why oil is so valuable.

[@LilaSilk]

Thank you for your important conversation. Nano nuclear plants are definitively an incredibly solution for especially underdeveloped countries, but also for remote areas anywhere in this world. I agree with Dr Peterson that people out of poverty start caring about the environment. What I don't know is, if it is applicable to all nations.

[@jimrutherford2773]

Mini nuclear plants would be dangerous to humanity. In the wrong hands imagine who could do what to a town?

[@wheel-man5319]

It certainly is applicable everywhere.

[@moneky]

my dad, being in the energy business, heard and told me about modular reactors the size of a container 20 years ago. the idea has stuck with me ever since and i have been a huge fan for just the reasons jordan brought up in the beginning. we are in dire need of redundancy on all of our major systems; energy, water, sewage, transportation, food production and storage. if we can get modular/micro systems distributed it would secure these systems and make people richer with clean cheap energy. my opinion is that governments should have been throwing billions a year at this problem to get it solved for the last 2 decades. i also think that solar has a place as a redundant backup supply for critical choke points in infrastructure along with fossil fuel generators. diversity of sources should be celebrated and used in conjunction with each other. the cost of doing so could save many lives when the systems we have degrade and parts fail unexpectedly.

[@Nixontheman]

But this girl I know says it’s REALLY BAD FOR EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE, and she went to college so she’s really smart.

[@wheel-man5319]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@lobonoxxxx]

Thanks Mr Peterson, this is a nice interview and is very informative. 👏

[@Warp9Cat]

Please Have Chris Martenson and Kirk Sorenson on the podcast.

[@davidtbk8789]

I love this argument, "radiation is a danger you cant see" - therefore public fear. You cant see CO, CO2, cant see cobalt/lithium leaching, cant see lead leaching. "Radiation does X for thousands of years" - isnt CO2 the deadliest threat to humans, according to world governments? And it'll take thousands of years to lower the levels. Nope, something else is at play, and its worse. Human Greed, with regulation as a vehicle. Imagine the US having an abundance of power, that is nearly limitless and requires little maintenance per watt and is currently the safest and cleanest power source. We are the children of the atom, right people?

[@ffnovice7]

I think it's more incompetence than malintent. I've met these boomer retirees and the memes are absolutely real. Tim Dillon has the best take on them

[@diskordful]

Whether this makes sense for poor, underdeveloped regions is something I dare to doubt. These are often also politically unstable or politically problematic. And it is often sunny in these regions in particular, so another, much simpler way of generating energy would make sense - solar with a sodium battery. For travelling mines somewhere in Alaska that need a lot of electricity, such a reactor on a truck would certainly make sense.

[@nuqwestr]

Container Ships: "An ABS study showed that the adoption of advanced nuclear reactors onboard a large containership would eliminate the need for refuelling of the vessel during its entire 25-year lifespan." - Nucnet

[@jean-francoishebert8365]

Love this discussion. One aspect that wasn’t mentioned: would those reactors be unmanned as in automated, watched remotely or would they need some on site person 24/7. From a “marketing” point of view, each scenario will have drawbacks to be addressed.

[@kevinderrick2787]

There is no turbine on the Voyager spacecraft. It's a RTG (Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator). No moving parts.

[@robayohannes5331]

Not familiar with the technology but very interested in deploying power to remote locations. I hope you succeed.

[@SWATT101]

Thats cool...waterless systems would be an asset here in fridged Canada.

[@jamesdelcol3701]

They could calculate the containable load for a small reactor and design the reactors to be small enough to be 5x below that load. Making it safe. It is the efficiency part they aren't done with yet. Something about storage of the energy into a battery. It is like one step from doing big things with these smaller prototypes. Build many of them over the stretch of land that only takes up about 500sf of space, powering a world with engineering you cannot imagine. Bullet trains running everywhere, electric cars, that run on low cost. This could be a major energy revolution. I'm very into this. I'd build the containment shell for the reactors or go on a huge site of a nuclear reactor. I'd love to see how they do that work. PS: The big ones take 3 years to build. It is a huge piling job before you have the blocks of a foundation. This is (1) year of piling for a big reactor at a minimum. The rest if it is a high tech facility with parts being shipped in, inspectors everywhere. It is a feat to build a large reactor. We can do it safe, but the mini tech is making me excited the most. We can make that the most safe and the most powerful if we learn how to store and transfer the energy efficiently.

[@SomeGuy-xf9bc]

I'd like to hear more about progress with thorium reactors.

[@johnowens5342]

I would like to see a breakdown of legitimate arguments as to why it is not viable because it seems like the best of nuclear without the dangers of meltdowns or dangers byproducts.

[@nuqwestr]

He did mention SMRs several times. Thorium is only one element in the new arena of SMRs, there are others, some only combine thorium in the process.

[@th3rush]

Great topic! Honestly, I think this is our best option for cheap, reliable, and using small systems inherently redundant power to replace fossil fuel options. Renewables purely in parallel. Unless we get fusion licked, small nuclear is really our best bet...

[@TOM-C.]

I heard about mini nuclear plants years ago! It sounded great then, and it still sounds great. One small plant covering a large city instead of a huge plant covering many cities! We must command out governments to implement these power sources with our tax dollars, and not allow them to be privatized. I'm sick, and tired of my electricity bills increasing year on year to the point we can't afford to run the air, or the heat! 👍😎✌🗽

[@wheel-man5319]

Do you think the thieves in DC and NYC (UN) would listen to anything that interfered with their ability to steal and grift?

[@TOM-C.]

@@wheel-man5319 No, that's why I stated "command" our government to do it with our money! 😁

[@markschwartz7480]

A good number of the new discoveries/tech that we enjoy in the civilian world today began as a military project. The most well know of these is the internet. Using a military invention in a less weapon/military intention happens all the time and is all around us.

[@alexanderg9670]

Greens in Germany may secretly miss the mustache guy

[@h1r086]

I don't buy for a second the idea that fascism is defined by nationalism, and that the national socialists weren't socialist.

[@cornuperold4167]

Mr Walker referred to “Deaths per Gw” to explain the relative safety to human life. I would love to see a comparison that considers the full impact of nuclear on the environment when compared to wind & solar. Naturally this comparison must include the entire supply chain from mining, through manufacturing to use and finally restoration. In addition it needs to include the impact that facilities have on the environment while operating. I suspect wind & solar won’t end up being the most “green” power source.

[@SuperBoyboys]

13:20 Slight correction, the generator on the Voyager probe is a Radioisotope Thermoelectric generator, which doesn't use a turbine to generate power but a thermocouple.

[@doctordapp]

What about using it as power source for container ships. A small modulair reactor would be very cost effective and saves a lot of crude oil. Make it a unit which is impossible to sink, which stands in a rear deck, it would be easily replaceable and if the ship would sink it can be retrieved easily.

[@isaiahwelch8066]

I see a couple of problems with public perception, despite the education Kyle Hill and others have done. One is that nuclear meltdowns are honestly a thing of the past, if what the French did in their power plants were proliferated globally, which is they use uranium spheres in hollow lead tubes to control the reaction. Reason why is geometry and thermodynamics: Where cooling as fast as possible is the goal, spheres have the most surface area, which means spheres dissipate heat the fastest. That said, people still believe the propaganda from 40 and 50 years ago, because of Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, and Fukushima. Fukushima was a US reactor design that because of a tsunami, had the same issue as Three Mile Island in 1986. Most importantly, people didn't die because radiation, they died because tsunami and the resulting floodwaters. That said, I am finding that critics of nuclear power in 2024 are using the same playbook that was used to argue against landfills, made famous by the organization NIMBY, or "Not In My Back Yard." Back then, nobody wanted a landfill near their community, so a lot of trash ended up in the ocean. Now, "NIMBY" is again being used to argue against nuclear, which is the whole reason Utah is where fossil-fuel power generation from coal is made. Which speaks volumes to the hypocrisy of the environmental zealots in California who do not care where their power comes from, as long as their lifestyles aren't interrupted. And all they have done is switch their energy usage from individual tailpipes to massive industrial tailpipes in another state -- all because they have a NIMBY mindset about power. And that's not even getting into the fact that lithium, along with the materials for wind, solar, and battery technology are all more damaging to the environment than nuclear, or more damaging to the environment than zinc and chlorine, two elements that can make an EV battery that is actually safe. Gulf & Western Industries demonstrated that feasibility back towards the end of the 1970s, yet EV batteries for cars are unsafe, given the number of fires that have happened in the US and UK, along with other places around the world. EVs are now such a risk that insurance companies are beginning to outright refuse to insure lithium-powered EVs. Point is, nuclear is a safe, clean energy source -- and coupled with the potential from fusion, would give humanity all the energy we could ever want.