Fusion Power Explained! | Dr. Dennis Whyte | EP 424

Dr. Jordan Peterson speaks with nuclear fusion expert Dr. Dennis Whyte. They walk through how fusion differs from fission, the harnessable energy found at the center of the sun, how to recreate it on earth, the fourth state of matter known as plasma, and facing the consequences of technology while acknowledging that we must push forward.
Dennis Whyte is the Hitachi America Professor of Engineering, and prior director of the Plasma Science and Fusion Center at MIT (He stepped down in November 2023). Whyte is considered a leader and innovator in fusion research, and currently leads the project SPARC - a compact, high-field, net fusion energy fusion device.
This episode was filmed on January 17th, 2024
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(0:00) Tour info 2024
(0:41) Coming up
(1:03) Intro
(3:00) What fusion is and how it differs from fission
(7:06) The conditions under which fusion is possible
(15:34) Does fusion rely on chain reactions?
(19:00) It’s temperature, not energy
(21:27) What is actually happening to the atoms during fusion? A different phase of matter
(27:54) Calculating how much power results from fusion
(31:13) How to recreate the Sun’s temperatures on earth
(39:30) Magnetic fields and condensing hydrogen into plasma
(48:39) With physical isolation of the systems, where is the energy and how do we access it?
(58:30) Fission and fusion are not competing power sources, we need both
(1:06:56) Where are we really at with fusion? Timeline and likelihood
(1:19:18) What happens to the electrons?
(1:22:13) The end of abject poverty?
(1:30:03) Breakthroughs and optimism: “We have quite a world waiting for us if we’re sensible and fortunate”
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[@SmithsMuseum]

Physicist with a gamer chair. I trust him implicitly.

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[@jakeandersen1011]

The great scientific breakthroughs of the 21st century will be made by asses planted on the comfort of Secretlabs lol

[@sweebos]

😄

[@fredblogs3303]

Jordan Peterson is not just a gem of the Canadian people he is a GEM of the human race

[@clivemarriott7749]

Yes a person of significance for the world which there should be a special status for. I just made up a peoples award to him of 'Plenipotentiary' status tasked with helping humanity in what ever ways he can or wants to. He should be able to go anywhere in the world with minimal restrictions and meet anyone, set up anything, use whoever he needs on what ever basis. I would include others like Douglas Murray , Elon Musk and others. No globalists control because they would be independent agents of change who will take us with them on their journeys.

[@fredblogs3303]

@@clivemarriott7749 .. not sure about Elon Musk as yet but I agree with you totally otherwise

[@Rocksteady-hl2ks]

Jordan Peterson is a clinical psychologist/professor who did a thesis on alcoholism, yet wasn't even aware of the well known dangers of benzodiazepines...

[@clivemarriott7749]

@@fredblogs3303 No, that's fine but i think he has a lot going for him. 👍👍

[@Rocksteady-hl2ks]

Reference Jordan Peterson being utilized as an "expert" witness during a murder trial: "Justice Mainella was apparently so unimpressed by Peterson’s 'proposed expert evidence,' he expressed 'concern about the decision to attempt to proffer Dr. Peterson as an expert witness on areas that he was clearly not qualified.' The judge concluded that offering Peterson as an expert witness 'unnecessarily complicated and delayed the trial' and expressed concern about the 'detrimental impact on the justice system of attempting to use dubious expert opinion.'"

[@exxosetty]

Peterson might seriously be the best interviewer right now. Remarkable 👏

[@Nill757]

He was. Since he got sick, he’s 1/4 speed of what he was. Still pretty good, but he keeps falling in his rabbit holes now. No chance he could do his Cathy Newman interview today, with the grace and humor and marshaled evidence he did then.

[@wombatillo]

I didn't really expect him to interview people about fusion energy. Not exactly on my 1000 things that will happen this year list. Good discussion though.

[@watchthe1369]

He is a psychiatrist He Better Be.

[@mattwisher6899]

JBP is a very effective translator of the physics. Without this, I think the casual listener would be lost. Thank you for making this complex topic accessible!

[@brianmoran1196]

Very good comment

[@stephenbrickwood1602]

The national grid is not big enough for no fossil fuels future. The new technology will cost many $billions, maybe $TRILLIONS. And then you have to build the bigger grid capacity, but you have to start building the grid bigger before the Fusion generator because it is so big and takes much longer to build. The first national grid took 100years. So allow decades to build the bigger grid capacity.

[@Mallchad]

@@stephenbrickwood1602 I didn't raelize "bigness" was a statistic of the grid.

[@Mallchad]

@@stephenbrickwood1602 What on Earth do _you_ mean! Is the question :D what does "big enough" mean and who are you replying to?

[@mattradcliffe9279]

It’s nice. Experts tend to assume knowledge and familiarity with jargon that the lay person can’t understand. Someone like the mainstream media or Joe Rogan would devolve the conversation down to the level of a stoned teen. Jordan actually provokes intelligent conversation and breaks apart any jargon without dumbing it down to the usual low level considered fit for the general public.

[@jollojakar8995]

Went from zero to having a basic understanding of fusion energy thanks to this excellent interview. Thank you.

[@ParaquatSC]

gaming chair diff

[@captainLoknar]

Sadly the challenge of fusion is insurmountable before several other currently unthinkable challenges are fixed. It's quite sad we've exhausted so much energy researching and reporting it. The truth is we have a scientist community around fusion that's actually researching military applications with these devices. Fusion occurs in a star at a stupidly slow rate, statistically. It's only impressive because of the stars' size. Cooling it down to make it usable on earth is literally science fiction, since cooling down the system makes the fusion occur even less frequently than in a star.

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

I knew many of the basics from watching a lot of space docs but now my basic understanding is slightly deeper.

[@fahimp3]

@@captainLoknar Did you even listen to Dr. Dennis? 🙄The way the sun does it is through gravity which is a relatively weak force. That's why you need such large size to accomplish fusion with gravity. As mentioned in the podcast gravity is not the only force you can use. There is the electromagnetic force...

[@captainLoknar]

@@fahimp3 yeah that's what they're currently using. electromagnets. So how does that invalidate what I said? Bro I'm not being condescending towards you. Just try to be more critical of these snake oil salesmen and stupid "science" reporters. I'm telling you fission is already pretty nice and they're using fusion to funnel more taxpayer funds into military contractors, vaguely posing as physics research. They need impossible tech to make this work. If they really wanted to achieve civilian applications, we need to hope for a miracle discovery and that's by observing the hell out of the universe and the Hadron collider. They would be launching 1000 space telescopes and building 6 bigger colliers. But no. Follow the money.

[@JayEwingCoL]

I wanted to let you know I just left my first public speaking gig. I never thought any of this would be possible, I'm an Asperger's, so it was difficult for me to communicate. It all started with you, Dr. Peterson and I will be forever grateful! Thank you for all that you do. Only up from here!

[@tibrin7696]

Awesome job buddy!! 🤘😎

[@robs4988]

I hope there are more podcasts of this nature. There are not nearly enough discussions about these types of subjects and they certainly cannot be found on TV shows or indeed anywhere that is easily accessible to the public.

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

I know technology is amazing. Don't you see why some want to censor the internet.

[@turnipsucks6416]

​@@FranklinFleming-lm1yu Thank fully someone a long time ago thought the internet wouldn't be a big deal. If understood, they'd of shelved that as well!

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

@@turnipsucks6416 the. Guy who made t.v said it will never catch on its a fad

[@nowaout8014]

there is massive amounts of info on this subject dont need podcasts or tv shows

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

@@nowaout8014 no you don't need it lol

[@11116nas]

Thank you for this. You can really see the enthusiasm this man has for his field. Great interview

[@cooking_with_cat_hair1810]

I would have been in utter dispare for the entirety of the past 3 years if Jordan had not choosen to share these conversations. Thank you Dr! ❤

[@mattjames9174]

Hearing how he got his career going on the daily wire side was very motivational. I just finished my apprenticeship into sheetmetal union. And was thinking about pursuing a degree in engineering. Now I know it is something I must do to get that feeling the 2 of you have described. I feel the calling toward it. Just need to get up and do it. Thank you for all of the hard work that you do.😊

[@kmcgushion]

Excellent scientific understanding and questions Jordan. I have been watching Dennis for a while on this subject and he is fantastic! Thank you for making this important subject accessible to everyone.

[@mikmacarthur]

You should look up Eric Dollard on this subject among others, he is a true genius.

[@Widesight]

This is one of those videos that I will need to watch several times. First time to ready my brain and then repeat viewings to try and properly understand everything and the impacts. Ace.

[@mrp8811]

absolutely brilliant most favorite clip on fustion by far. could have listened to Jordan and Dennis for hours on this subject and I just wish Dennis and his students/ colleagues the very best of luck.

[@k_a_bizzle]

JBP with his trait openness on full display. Truly, curious people ask the most interesting questions.

[@Rocksteady-hl2ks]

Jordan Peterson is a clinical psychologist/professor who did a thesis on alcoholism, yet wasn't even aware of the well known dangers of benzodiazepines...

[@birddogcatfrog4977]

Yeah yeah yeah, we know we know. If youre trying dissuade people, think of something else to say. Most people think its quite something that he overcame the addiction so youre definitely barking up the wrong tree. Youre not wrong, but your method is.​@Rocksteady-hl2ks

[@avasdaddy08]

​​@@Rocksteady-hl2ksOMG, so he literally does stupid things just like every other person that's walked, is walking or will be walking the earth since the dawn of time!!!!! 🙄

[@Rocksteady-hl2ks]

@@birddogcatfrog4977 Jordan Peterson's addiction has nothing to do with what I've stated.... (Stick to what you understand, seriously)

[@Rocksteady-hl2ks]

@@avasdaddy08 Can you even comprehend the role benzodiazepines play in alcoholism? (Stop yammering on about things you obviously don't understand, seriously)

[@ryanegan4413]

Dr. Peterson you are a true Canadian Gem and Patriot. Thank you for everything you do. 🙏❤

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Thank him by Writing your government to tell them what they are doing with his psychology license is wrong

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

​@@MidwestFarmToysthey know it's wrong. Don't get yourself on a list.

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[@joshboomhower8806]

​@FranklinFleming-lm1yu to be frank, keeping our mouths shut of fear of repercussions is how we got here .we should all be ashamed of ourselves for allowing this despicable predatory behavior to continue for as long as we have

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

@@joshboomhower8806 you gotta laugh at the stupid. They can't freeze again... The bank runs were to real and the bankers shat themselves. Not saying you stupid btw. Just laugh at the bad times. If we can't laugh and make fun of things... Then it's definitely gone too far.

[@HB-co2uq]

Yes Jordan! Keep raising the profile of the most significant topics of our species. And make it accessible and inviting, If this can happen in our life time it will change absolutely everything we have come to accept as the status quo. Imagine a world no longer focused on finding and fighting for energy. Unlimited power for everyone. A vision of Global Cooperation never seen before. BRING IT ON!!!

[@TOM-C.]

I've been a nuclear proponent since I was a teenager in the 70's! I've never strayed form that opinion, and it's strengthened by todays world need for more power. The one thing I would add is that we the people should own, and control all nuclear, and power stations throughout the world, and especially in the US. Electricity is a basic foundation for life in the 21st century, and it shouldn't provide a profit for anyone. 👍✌😎🗽

[@katadam2186]

What would you think if a company is using a nuclear plant for bitcoin and cloud computing.. and pretty big percentage.. ever hear of WULF stock

[@aliendroneservices6621]

@@katadam2186 Does *_Terawulf_* produce power?

[@katadam2186]

@@aliendroneservices6621 watch the deal an “ restructuring “ and some NRC insiders… real slick

[@dilvishpa5776]

If nuclear power is deployed in a non-profit fashion, then it will never progress and move forward. It means government will control it as a monopoly. Monopolies don’t invent and innovate because there is no competitive driver. When West Germany recombined with East Germany, they found that NONE of the East’s manufacturing was usable. It was antiquated. Cars were stuck in 1930’s technology. The free market drives invention and innovation through competition. It is motivated by profit. So, you need to ask yourself: do you want socialized energy, OR do you want cheap and safe nuclear power?

[@dilvishpa5776]

Interesting. Criticize socialism and YT removes your comment. Edit: My prior, longer and politely critical comment, was removed.

[@Muonium1]

I may not agree with all of Mr. Peterson's philosophical convictions, but as someone who's been on the 'inside' of the laser driven inertial confinement fusion world for a couple decades now, I was HIGHLY impressed with the intellectual level of this conversation. I expected some talk about deuterium and superconductors and so forth, but I did not expect to hear discussion about the triple product or the Larmor radii of the confined charged particles in the plasma vessel. Notably, Peterson's questions are unusually incisive and canny for a non-expert in the field; his considerable intelligence is quite clear here and he should not be underestimated by interviewers or interviewees alike.

[@CraigyBaby97]

Love the consistency of the podcasts lately.

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

True diversity. I want KRS ONE on the show

[@rweaver6]

Holy Grail fusion is a technologically imaginary solution solving an imaginary problem.

[@usesbiggerwords8183]

​@@rweaver6There are approaches to fusion that are very close to commercial viability. The problem (humanity's energy needs) is not imaginary.

[@rweaver6]

@@usesbiggerwords8183Nuclear fission power has been cheap and abundant for 60 years. With thorium and breeders, it's good for something like geological time horizons. But that is what people with their hands in the public till hold against it. If it works, it needs to be superseded by something less available, but needing plenty of study. Fusion power has been reported to be on the cusp of economic viability, at least as far back as this old man was in college. Not likely to change much, while there's plenty of money to spend on studying the potential, instead of building the actual. It's the poorest that suffer most by the suppression of actual cheap energy in favor of expensive not-quite-yet elite dreams.

[@johnowens5342]

Fantastic conversation, I really enjoyed listening to this level of expertise instead of reading a poorly written article that lacked important details and insights.

[@davidhill6604]

Fascinating talk! The political talks are interesting, but it would be great to have more scientists on the show. Thank you so much for your work!

[@borgman151]

One of my more favorite podcasts from you Dr. Peterson. Thank you - I thoroughly enjoyed the knowledge of your guest and the questions you asked.

[@joecaruso3756]

Thank you Dr. Peterson. Please bring on Dr. James Tour when you visit Houston

[@MickeJagger]

Wow such a uplifting experience

[@keithmofley8275]

Gosh what a time to be alive

[@kurtandrews7450]

Very interesting topic. It's fun to exercise some of this stuff from my days in engineering school.

[@thegootch2098]

I learned sooo much on this one. thank you Mr. Peterson and early congrats on 8mil. subs

[@TTFN55]

Dr. Peterson is such an important voice for today.

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

A Canadian Hero

[@Rocksteady-hl2ks]

Jordan Peterson is a clinical psychologist/professor who did a thesis on alcoholism, yet wasn't even aware of the well known dangers of benzodiazepines...

[@lisaandchris8651]

Wow so is truly human!? 😮

[@Rocksteady-hl2ks]

@@lisaandchris8651 What?

[@FrankDrebinJunior]

A sketchboard would definetely help for physical conceptualizations :) Great discussion.

[@georgereed1732]

I hope Dr. Peterson can conduct more technical interviews like this. His line of questioning is very impressive.

[@charlesberton2581]

I've been following fusion developments for years. Been trumpeting the prospect.

[@nicholasmeriwether6589]

KZbin is the single greatest educational tool in human history.

[@darkside3052]

This was top tier! Ty both for this.

[@shaunluckham1418]

I haven’t heard yet of any fusion experiments that have achieved more total energy out than they used to achieve and maintain fusion. There is a huge difference between Q total as opposed to just Q plasma.

[@alchristie5586]

You are correct

[@Canucklug]

The company co-founded by Whyte can reasonably expect to in late 2026. Other reactor concepts with less depth of research may do so earlier or around the same time. Essentially nothing happened for a 25 year stretch but fusion is quite exponential depending on what advances are made

[@shaunluckham1418]

@@Canucklug one of the many reasons I know the climate crisis is not a crisis is that there has been zero concerted effort to bring fusion to fruition.

[@carolinereuter7924]

Didn't they say that a net output of energy has now been achieved by one project?

[@Canucklug]

@@carolinereuter7924 It's net target gain, so 300 MJ powers the lasers and 2 MJ comes through to hit the target and the fusion power was 3.5 MJ This sounds like not much but it's very exponential - they increased the laser energy by 8% for that shot and the fusion energy was 250% more than the previous record Lasers are now much more efficient and can fire at powerplant relevant rates. It could work out although cost competitiveness is another level of challenge

[@jordanhildebrandt3705]

Another excellent interview! Thanks to you both!

[@lazarusblackwell6988]

This is a good talk about Fusion. The best one yet i think.

[@garymenezes6888]

Already knew a bit about fusion, now I know more and how complex it really is.👍

[@davidbrenneman1574]

Please invite Dr Whyte to participate in person academy! I would love to lean more and he's a very engaging and effective communicater.

[@haydenwayne3710]

Excellent episode!!!! Thank you.

[@aeiouaeiou100]

Amazing talk. Really loved it

[@crazywickedcustoms7272]

Thank you sir

[@jonbarnett9363]

I was wondering about the potential utility of AI in running a fusion-based system. I seem to remember that one of the nagging problems of developing a "good" tokamak reactor was that there had to be extremely rapid and precise changes made to the magnetic field constantly in order to keep it going. With AI, it seems like that sort of problem might be overcome. This discussion was one that was very fun to experience. Thank you for this content!

[@DrDeuteron]

It’s been done

[@moirarussell1950]

Wow!! This should have been grade 6 science class. Do I understand it all? No! Do I kinda get it?? Yes!! Way to go guys! ❤️🇨🇦

[@INflamesRobbie]

Wow! So positive! Thank you!

[@NoahZeus]

One of the top interviews so far easy.

[@retiefgregorovich810]

I'm 64, worked a boiler water reactor most of my life. I highly doubt I will ever be able to visit a commercial fusion reactor.

[@josephlarrybradley508]

That's what made the rambling useless. He talked about gravity as a force. physicist are telling us gravity is not a force... is it a force or not and if not then use whatever is the new correct words to express what we are calling gravity does. He made a distinction between temperature and energy.. isn't temperature an average of energy? He can't make up his mind what level he's trying to communicate. WORST is When... gesh make a guess or just shut up. what about "I have no idea"

[@nuqwestr]

@@josephlarrybradley508 Had similar reaction to this guy,

[@DrkstrX]

@@josephlarrybradley508apparently you misunderstand physics and still think very logical and linearly. That's dangerous when actually thinking.

[@doctorstrangelove798]

exactly - fusion is a pipe dream being pushed by the anti human environmentalists (and their useful idiots). We need to invest in thorium reactors. As a Canadian it is pathetic that we have not invested in the most successful energy source in human history. We had the people and the resources to dominate energy production for 1,000 years.

[@paulbenedict1289]

Life extension is coming too

[@sticks49]

Amazing. Thank you…

[@klemenkos8070]

I would suggest getting Arthur Isaac on. Isaac Arthur's KZbin channel offers a captivating exploration of futuristic concepts and scientific advancements, resonating with viewers who appreciate thought-provoking discussions. Delving into topics like space exploration, megastructures, and advanced technology, Arthur's content stimulates intellectual curiosity and fosters a deeper understanding of humanity's potential. With a meticulous approach to research and a commitment to clarity, Isaac Arthur inspires viewers to contemplate the profound implications of scientific progress, aligning with the pursuit of truth and individual growth championed by Jordan Peterson.

[@pneumonoultramicroscopic666]

Fascinating

[@kennethsizer6217]

Incredibly enjoyable and informative interview! 👍👍👍

[@darker1337]

I knew a little about fusion and I 100% think it's the way we will get most of our energy in the future (probably far future, but you never know). For now, I think most countries not suffering from natural disasters should be focusing on building fission reactors, or we are doomed. If they get thorium salt reactors to work on a large scale, even better. I wrote essays on this in college equivalent, it's such an interesting topic. Thank you so much, JBP and the rest of the team!

[@KARM-oc1yr]

I think Issac Arthur would be an interesting guest on this podcast.

[@scottmitchell1974]

Heck yeah!

[@Lunareclipse1996]

Yep. That would be a very interesting conversation.

[@ryuunosuk3]

Heck yeah, he absolutely would be!

[@LilaSilk]

Thank you gentlemen for this actual and interesting conversation. There is not much talk and information out there about fusion technology, maybe because it's a newer technology and not being used yet as much as nuclear. It definitively sounds like an option compared to nuclear and todays renewable energy sources. Looking forward to the next steps. Wishing you all the beat Dr. Whyte.

[@whocares2149]

I'd like to see Jordan upload a video on his thoughts about the 11 different dimensions. I searched on youtube "Jordan Peterson dimensions" and was surprised to see no conversation or lecture on the topic. Maybe some day? 🙏

[@sweebos]

I loved this discussion so much. 🙂 I'm a self-proclaimed idiot in regards to *most* topics. But I've always loved astronomy and physics and have followed these topics unprofessionally for a couple of decades. I've been an uneducated observer of the sun and it's electromagnetic connection to earth for the last several years. It's really incredible once you dig into it, and study, and hypothesize, and see all the correlations between the earth and it's biggest impactor... Our star. Anyway, I was really nerding out during the first part of the talk and enjoyed this discussion. Would love to see more discussions like this Mr. Peterson. And, as always, thanks for sharing. ✌️

[@mosin9105]

Thank you

[@markketron3308]

Excellent thanks.

[@CailybCuff-qe4iy]

Awesome podcast

[@steveputman9545]

Fusion! Its a great idea that will always be just around the corner, meaning 70 years from now, 70 years from tomorrow and 70 years from 10 years from now.

[@alchristie5586]

I agree

[@davidhahn5323]

This fission will always be right around the corner as long as government gives scientists billions to claim that it will. But "cold fusion" is a reality and making breakthroughs. Now called Low Energy Atomic Reaction LEAR.

[@timkern462]

I learned a lot from this. Thanks to both of you gentlemen.

[@LifeisGood762]

Neato! I'm interested in this new, clear energy!

[@NotAnEvilPersian]

Dr. Peterson, please talk to Michael Clarage of Aureon Energy, a Canadian company. Hopefully they'd be receptive to openly discuss their findings. It would surprise you what they bumped into when they embarked to study the electric model of sun.

[@abarbar06]

Those guys are full of shit.

[@cool-alien377]

I’m thankful to live in the present to listen to something I’ve always imagined now we get to understand this in my own life time this is insane

[@ginsengchickensoup]

That was spectaculair 👍

[@oqsy]

10 years away from fusion feels more like it’s 50 years further away each decade.

[@kensurrency2564]

i’ve always heard “fusion is only 20 years away” every 20 years 😂

[@mephInc]

It doesn't matter how "cheap" the energy will be to produce. The consumer cost will always go up.

[@danstiurca7963]

My man from MIT neglected to mention that the fusion blanket is radioactive like hell. It's not all rainbows and unicorns. Oh, and the actual practical containment times right now actually are only a few seconds... not exactly a power plant.

[@derek91362]

Remember Franklin and the kite. That's how far we are from practical fusion. Took a few years after that for desktop computers. 230 years

[@stevenblackwell4903]

​@@zoomskilleri would doubt that seriously as it would take quite a large facility to create a fusion reaction, much less something that can be ( launched). excluding of course a thermonuclear device.

[@MidwestFarmToys]

So What?

[@damnamish88]

Thank you for what you do Dr Peterson. You changed my life! I’ll be seeing you at your show in Akron in March. I can’t wait!!

[@uberholmes]

I have learned so much about nuclear fusion. Thank you!

[@richardmanoogian8513]

Hey Doc. Fascinating. One question. Is the deuterium fed directly into the reactor or is it heated up into plasma first? Hopefully one of your listeners knows the answer

[@rehab_herr]

You sound stronger in this one, good on you.

[@wft15]

Has he been ill?

[@nuqwestr]

Fusion reactions in stars, the overall effect is a reduction in entropy as the system becomes more ordered through the formation of heavier nuclei.

[@salvadoroliveira6632]

Besides the production of energy, nuclear reactors can produce a variety of isotopes that are useful for medicine. Another topic, the discovery by Pons and Fleischmann in the 80's concerning fusion in the lattice of palladium, must have "struck a nerve" , considering the way they were attacked. Considering how palladium became increasingly more expensive, it would be interesting to see who has been buying more than others.

[@davidhahn5323]

It's not about the technology. Billions in science grants go to Tokamac research scientist's salaries every year. Why kill the Golden Goose by succeeding? These methods will never produce inexpensive consumer energy.

[@ST-iv2ej]

I've got a long drive home from London tomorrow, this is the entertainment sorted.

[@patricksoos674]

Good evening Mr JP

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

Jordan has some very astute questions

[@scottbrantley483]

This is fascinating as a physics problem, but anyone who thinks that worldwide energy concerns will ever let this technology come to full fruition, is living in a dream world.

[@randyveitenheimer8227]

Small scale nucleonics has been an answer to every city’s energy needs since the late sixties when I was working on it Then the whole program disappeared….. Think submarines and air craft carriers… Just the beginning of 60 year old research applications

[@DavidConnerCodeaholic]

A few things. First, interesting while probably wrong: i think it may be possible for “cold fusion” to exist in the center of ice giants, since the exotic ice XIX and XX support metallic hydrogen and the latter should form an octohedral lattice of oxygen ions within which hydrogen ions can flow freely. The Ice XX lattice should so strongly constrain the movement of hydrogen ions (via constraints on the configuration distribution) that tectonic activity may possibly lead to small amounts of fusion. The constraints in motion of hydrogen would lower the required temperature & pressure for fusion to occur. Also, there “breakthrough” fusion experiment was more of a breakthrough in laser technology, since it set records for number of lasers radiating the same space.

[@lazarusblackwell6988]

A lesson on fusion in a video thats more then 1 hour long. Yeah i will just blow through the entire lecture when i upgrade my mind.

[@lazarusblackwell6988]

If you want people to learn fast you need to make education FUN and RELEVANT. Or invent some device to just "upload" the knowledge into our brains. This vid is fun and relevant enough for me.

[@LuisGuzman-bw2ul]

Yet another phenomenal conversation in the Jordan Peterson channel, nothing new

[@MicahBratt]

Excited for when all the engineering for fusion is figured out

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

Yeah but infinite energy.... I can see people controlling who gets access.

[@kreek22]

@@FranklinFleming-lm1yu Of course. Energy is dual use.

[@stephenjohnson1758]

I love megafusion and am happy to see its progress but I would love to see more research into table top fusion and LNRs these are a bit under funded probably thanks to Pons and Flieshman.

[@lazarusblackwell6988]

Makes me think about Back To The Future movie where they use the "Mr Fusion" tech in the time travel car.

[@maciejkowalski6045]

its interesting that both fusion and fission produce energy from the perspective of matter transformation

[@rext3404]

I've been following research on nuclear fusion for years. Recent successes and findings are really exciting! I'm already pro-fission reactors, but if we can master fusion reactors?! It will be beyond amazing for the human race!

[@ParaquatSC]

Ah you haven't applied the ability of well meaning idiots to fuck anything good up, like fission itself.

[@effoffutube]

Fusion energy is my favorite perpetual motion machine. Even if you have a hundred mile radius ball of plasma in cold vacuum, it is diminishing. They way he speaks of "time", the electrons, and defers to 'hopefully AI will solve it' exposes the gaping holes in even the theoretical understanding.

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

Who do YOU want to see on the channel next? I want to see KRS ONE on the show. Dream come true for me.

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

Anyone comment lol 😁.. no rush.

[@mandog-FYT]

What a marvelous exchange. An example for the world. The pursuit and sharing of scientific truth redeems humanity, and jeopardizes it. How can we safeguard it's use to enrich all mankind? Oppenheimer vs Nakamoto.... Artificial Intelligence vs Artificial Wisdom.

[@andrewbell8050]

The guest could have made the first part of his explanation a lot more understandable for the average person if he had used the analogy of two bar magnets which repel or attract one another, depending on which ends you try to bring together - if you try to push the 2 "north" poles together, the magnets will repel one another. And they will push away from one another without touching one another. That force between the magnets is the electromagnetic force, and everyone is familiar with that example. It's that force that makes positively charged protons repel one another, unless that force of repulsion is overcome by crushing them together under the massive force of gravity at the centre of a star. Fusion isnt that complicated, but this guy made it seem that way.

[@thearisen7301]

Fission is ready now & it's awesome. Fusion is still years away from being a viable power plant.

[@Beau136]

Yes, Dr. Whyte literally said that....

[@flatroc1]

I would certainly be ecstatic to see you, Jordan, here in Alberta Canada sometime in relatively soonality. lol

[@skylarnielsentalks]

I wonder if there is a symbolic link between "Solar Power," and the allegory of the cave with the sun being a symbol of divine illumination?

[@theBaron0530]

During this video, I remembered Carl Sagan and his stated mission to popularize science. He noted that we are naturally curious, and capable generally of understanding more scientific content than either the media or educators give us credit for. Stephen Jay Gould proceeded on a similar tack, too, to make the latest content in his field, and others, available to the average person. This podcast does the same thing.

[@namethandir1711]

This is approach to which one could lean when worried about decarbonization. In 30-50 years the scale of technological improvement, coupled with space exploriation and mining could advance so rapidly that all "environmental" babble will only be remebered in history as a cultural/social decadent and antyhumanist movement of our current decades. I truly believe a new renaissance era is in our reach.

[@DeepSleepLive]

What do you think of the Bicom machine that does bioresonance therapy?

[@dirtdiggity1714]

Thats gonna be a tough vibration to tune out, unless you stick that split ring plasma resonator antenna someplace steady. Like, perfectly quiet. 🤔

[@EvgenyTalantsev]

Nice public talk which explains the difference between fission and fusion.

[@AreteAesthetic]

I plan on getting a B.S. in materials engineering with a minor in chemistry and if need be a graduate degree related to the field of nuclear fusion. I want to help change the world!