NUFC MONEY TALKS WITH KIERAN MAGUIRE

[@joem5703]

Great work getting Kieran on the channel, mate. Really good watch. Deserve that 10k this year 🙏

[@EverMoreNUFC]

Thanks mate. Fingers crossed 🤞

[@franks117]

You spoke very well there Kieran. A proper old fashioned fan, totally grounded.

[@trevorarkle124]

Chris, watching on catch up the other side of Kieran is a welcome & interesting side of his perspective of the Fan's side of the case along with his thoughts on other clubs. It's Perfect viewing. well done son

[@EverMoreNUFC]

Thanks mate I really appreciate that 😁

[@bobblack4048]

What an interesting video. I was unaware of this fantastic man. He is very interesting, knowledgeable, and humorous. He certainly knows his stuff. Thank you.

[@mikewalton1359]

Really great show, Chris. Kieran makes some really good points. Thoroughly enjoyed watching you both.

[@EverMoreNUFC]

Thanks Mike 😊

[@alanmcteer4910]

Kieran Maguire came across to me as an excellent listen, he certainly has his head screwed on, a really interesting bloke who tells it the way it is so well done for bringing him in Chris 👍👍👍👍

[@TonyODOnnell-tt8gh]

Great watch, Chris.... I like Keiren Mguire, besides his fountain of knowledge particularly around football finance'(s). The Guy is a proper salt of the earth bloke. A Gentlemen....

[@EverMoreNUFC]

Thanks mate. He's a great guy! So generous with his time & a fountain of knowledge 🙏

[@santo517santo]

Outstanding guest and discussion, very enjoyable, great stuff lads 🙌

[@jeankitchin6985]

Excellent listen

[@markyNUFC80]

Keiran "can I swear?" Not only is allowed, its encouraged lol Great vid Chris

[@EverMoreNUFC]

🤣 Thanks mate.

[@GraemeMorton-f6l]

Great listen Chris, thank you 👏👍

[@Carlosphnompenh]

Best show , I have seen in a long time, great job, both of you

[@ManuRangar]

Loved this video - thank you for bring Kieran in Chris. So much useful information.

[@kkiat424]

Most importantly we hav to win trophies & every season consistently challenge for top 4. Also need to expand our global fan base & increase our revenue. I've been supporting #NUFC for 30 years all the way from Malaysia. I think I'm the only one in my city that support #NUFC

[@andrewcharlton6080]

We do need to win trophies and for the next 4-5 seasons finish in the top 4 every year. However, how realistic is that expectation when there are 5-6 clubs that can spend twice on fees and wages than Newcastle can?

[@harryroberts147]

There’s literally a Nufc group of about 30 lads who watch every game live in the city. In Kuala Lumper

[@ericengleby265]

Winning the League cup or F.A cup brings in less than 5million in prize money. So we don't need to win trophies

[@andrewcharlton6080]

@@ericengleby265 We need to do both. Many successful teams point to a single trophy win as the catalyst to their success. It gives players belief, takes away nerves when in similar positions and changes the outlook at a club. If we can only do 1 then the CL money is more important but winning a trophy is very important

[@ericengleby265]

@@andrewcharlton6080 Why do we we have to finish top 4 or 5. Until our wage bill matches the other clubs to do this on a regular basis we will need to work miracles. Also hope others have shocker of a season. We don't spend to compete. Think we were in the bottom 4 spenders this season. To keep progressing you need to improve your starting 11. If we finish top 7 we will have done well. If we strengthen the 1st team in the window and steer clear of injurues to key personnel we have a chance for 5th spot. Our squad quality depth wise is poor. Howe has worked miracles at our club

[@MrLadiesman216]

Really insightful episode & what a great guest in kieran. Definitely gonna check out his book. Roll on 10k subscribers for you. 😁🐦‍⬛⚽️🏰

[@darrenheron7504]

Cracking show ,really enjoyed the honest and understandable answers.Keep it up👍

[@BoldonBigLad]

Excellent video Chris and big Kudos to Kieran for his valuable input. Listening to his podcast now

[@davidmilne9911]

One the best informative and enlightened interviews seen a long time, well done.

[@frenjd]

Great video, I really enjoyed it thanks. A real shame you no longer have a season ticket.

[@Chalky..000]

What a cracking watch, he knows his stuff book him for a what's gannin on live show..

[@EverMoreNUFC]

WGO live? Now there's a thought! 🤣👍

[@yogihightower]

There is no hope of competing and retaining players and matching wages when these new rules kick in. The gap between the cartel 6 and everyone else will be bigger and more difficult to over come. Football is a stitch up.

[@shanesmith1792]

The key for us is commercially. We'll begin to catch up when we generate more revenue. If we can qualify consistently in Europe every season too, that will also help. We'll get there. The Cartel can only slow us down. They won't be able to stop us. What I do believe is the referees have been told to try and screw us over in games. Many examples of this with time added/not added etc, biase on fouls.

[@andrewcharlton6080]

@@shanesmith1792Think about how long that will take to catch up though. 5, 6, 7 years or even longer. Even if we say 5 years we need to consistently outperform teams able to spend over twice what we can spend each year. We need to try and keep hold of players such as Bruno, Isak or Gordon even though we can’t win leagues or Champion Leagues and can’t afford to pay them what they’d earn elsewhere. It’s going to be incredibly tough, it is possible though but realistically we need to make a big sale once every 2-3 seasons just to be able to afford to reinvest as we need to be able to spend more

[@richardlavender1]

Kieran Maguire is a great bloke and fascinating to listen too. Great podcast! Thanks.

[@EverMoreNUFC]

He really is mate & thanks for the kind words 👍

[@steveduck9213]

great show chris kieran loved it

[@rogercookcouk]

Brilliant pod! 👏Thank you!

[@NorthShieldsGeoff-qu9qq]

That was great, thank you 👍👏👏

[@seancoulson7584]

Fantastic show

[@BrianDawsonLM10]

Great thought provoking watch Chris, cheers

[@TrifficLad33]

Really enjoyed this chat good listen.

[@IanBradley-so6vh]

What a fantastic guest in Kieran , so interesting,well done.

[@jrws89]

Really insightful interview. As a Newcastle fan the current rules are massively frustrating. I appreciate that the days of an owner like Abramovich coming in and waving blank cheques are over and I wouldn’t want the PIF to behave in this way anyway as success feels artificial but how can Newcastle compete on a season by season basis if the rules are stacked against us? I know with Brighton/Brentford’s data modelling theory you can punch through to a certain extent by scouting and developing players under the radar but it only allows you to go so far.. Hopefully one day all clubs will be able to compete and a fair and even playing field however keeping the status quo in place seems to be in the interest of the Big Six and the PL

[@michaelfawcus1349]

Fascinating discussion, really impressed with the quality of your guests, hanging on Kieran's every word, in a nutshell, the elite 6 want to stay as the elite 6 and the Premier League is complicit, I pray to God (I'm not religious) that Newcastle find a way to oust these fuckers.. Great show Chris ❤

[@EverMoreNUFC]

Thanks mate 👍

[@Rabbiting0n]

The best part of this was when he asked if he could swear and then said 'piss'. Chris's face 😂. Chris doesn't consider that as a swear word

[@EverMoreNUFC]

Very mild compared to some of mine eh? 👍🤣

[@agenttechstreams3891]

We will be fine

[@rigmarola]

Yeah I was expecting Chris to say something about it, but he was very well behaved in this video! 😂

[@EverMoreNUFC]

Getting ready to replace Dave the SMB on Sky mate 🤣

[@stevemartin1107]

Great craic with legend Kieran !

[@Helmesssss]

Wow Chris, awesome content fella!

[@dartmoormole]

Enjoyed this. Excellent

[@Frenchtoon]

Nicely explained Kieran. I'll give u a follow

[@markyNUFC80]

Been looking forward to this

[@rogercookcouk]

Catching up Chris, Kieran 😀

[@stevebrown3632]

Fantastic watch.

[@terriecasey1446]

Great video!

[@Tom_murray89]

This is a great interview

[@centurion8446]

Good interview

[@georgemorley1029]

25:02 that’s a very good point. There’s a world of difference between being shite but having respect, and being abused and losing that respect. One applied under Ashley, the other didn’t. We know which way round it was.

[@DavidVeitch54]

Great show fella ❤

[@Angus-f2v]

Great insight into FFP. I’d love to know how much teams in the premier have spent since the premier began

[@paulroper1729]

31 players in our squad? Average of £94k per week is roughly £152m per year in wages... 70% of £300m (if we generate that in revenue) is £210m. That leaves only £58m per year for new signing and contract re-negotiations. So it's not a huge amount, especially if you're after £60m players and £150k per week wages.... hence why people keep saying that player trading is so important.

[@paulharrison6373]

Great show Chris 😊

[@wouldbfarmer2227]

Great show, bro.

[@robhawkins3712]

My lady brought me the home and 3rd shirt for Christmas, £160 for the two, I've just brought my son and stepdaughter the 3rd infant kit, £70(on sale, should have cost £100) amd now I've brought the retro 95-97 shirt £90. £320 in a few weeks is a lot of money for 5shirts. The prices wouldn't be so bad, if like back in the day, they wore the same shirt for 2seasons.

[@Thoushaltplaymore]

Great video lads!

[@denisconor648]

Great stuff

[@BennyB-kn7zo]

The real problem for us is the APT rules. Those are what are killing us financially. Otherwise our sponsorship income could be Man City levels.

[@craigy691]

We need a right winger a defender and a striker in this window to push for Europe. Hope they coming in soon!

[@boemher15]

If PIF dont speculate to accumulate then they dont understand football or business. They probably dont understand either given the nature of their wealth tbf

[@gruffy4967]

A keeper is as much a priority.

[@FatherJack-73]

Be lucky if they even bring 1 in

[@christopherwright8811]

Good point on the wages issue of course. How many (tens of) millions have been wasted at Newcastle on dozens of fringe players down the years who we could never sell on for anything? The Hendricks, the Frasers, the re-signing of Carroll. We had years of that with Ashley - 6-12 million or so spent on utter dross for the most part.

[@markspark7634]

As long as the income keeps,growing at 30% plus per year, we will be fine, and I'm confident it will, we will get there, and if any of our top stars do end up being sold, due to the player wanting to move, then that will actually speed the process

[@jaffatanski]

I don't understand why we've given Lloyd Kelly an Ashley like contract, £39m he's costing us in wages, we've to pay him £7.8m for 5 years, irrelevant of him being a free transfer, Osulu, same 5 year contract is costing us £20m, £15m transfer fee + £5m wages, Kelly could be another costly mistake

[@sheilagibson8263]

And he's average mate😮

[@gregwalsh2045]

Excellent vid, really insightful, and slightly depressing haha

[@tonygolfnut1326]

Love listening to Kieran but im not sure i learned anything different than we didnt already know. I assumed this would go into the club financials a bit more than that. Maybe just me but id of preferred to hear about the numbers and predicited available money based on the figures you can roughly workout.

[@jvaddison]

Love the analogy on loyalty between Club and Wife lol. great listen from Kieren and yourself.

[@EverMoreNUFC]

Thanks mate. He's bang on with everything he says

[@StreetRider-iz7tg]

I’m not concerned about having another player in our squad as every position is covered by outstanding players at this minute, what I am concerned about is if we get any injuries and have nobody of similar quality to fill the gap.

[@johnnyboy11000]

The writing was on the wall when the "Big 6" started to budget for CL qualification as if it was guaranteed. The rules basically are there to protect their income, as the alternative was for them to leave and form the Super League which nobody else (including the PL obviously) wanted.

[@Vincent_N89]

Great content guys keep up the quality work

[@georgemorley1029]

Oh yeah nice one

[@EverMoreNUFC]

Thanks mate. Sorry I couldn't get your question in as Keirans time ran out but hopefully you enjoyed this one.

[@georgemorley1029]

@@EverMoreNUFCnae bother it was a boring question anyway ! 😂

[@geordiedog1749]

I guess it’s a case of either the rules change allowing us to spend or we have to dig in for the long term. Thing is, PSR is actually working…….. but only for the clubs outside those clubs who were allowed to invest/stock up prior to the rules on spending being changed. The playing field is levelling off. Spurs and Man Utd aside. (Which just makes their current state even funnier).

[@rogercookcouk]

I've never been married Kieran, yet a season ticket holder for many a year! lol #loyal

[@georgemorley1029]

You’ll never face a divorce mate!

[@FatherJack-73]

​@@georgemorley1029every cloud 😅

[@markspark7634]

Does corporate seating fall under the apt rules? Because I would think if it doesn't, then there would be no limit to how much could be sold in a new stadium, plenty of companies who are connected, but not fully owned by ksa

[@ericengleby265]

We are a few injuries away from a Crisis. We need 1 or 2 in come the end of January

[@georgemorley1029]

Watching with my wife, we’re rolling at the loyalty! 😂

[@EverMoreNUFC]

Brilliant 🤣👌

[@georgemorley1029]

@@EverMoreNUFCShe’s only had me fifteen years, the club has had me for 45!

[@raycopeland7172]

Totally agree about Miggy he should have been sold when we got top 4 , after 5 years he’s had one decent season common sense dictates he was never going to repeat that season but everyone was on cloud nine and not thinking right and shooting down anyone’s concerns

[@methik38]

Basically we won’t be signing players as usual.

[@Chalky..000]

Alreet Chris was this a live show??just a bit confused that's all..

[@EverMoreNUFC]

No mate it was pretty record bud.

[@firestarter1888]

You should get a sponsor for your channel 😂

[@EverMoreNUFC]

Maybe soon mate 👍

[@steveoram1]

Surely if they are playing the top 3 home games abroad the season ticket price should drop considerably?

[@Ambofrisk4107]

Nice cure pic

[@patrickmalone855]

A great common sence video lads

[@martinheywood588]

Ratcliffe was born in Failsworth which is and never has been part of Manchester. Was an independent borough originaly and is now part of Oldham.

[@EverMoreNUFC]

Tbf mate Scholes said that on overlap as a Manchester lad. Either way old slim Jim has been rancid!

[@mikem9309]

I don’t think we will buy- nothing serious at least but if we can be in a strong position come the summer window we may get some good players at value as other clubs are scrambling to get sorted for psr deadline.

[@davepatrick7577]

shame it was only 47 mins. Very interesting. 8-0 v bromley.

[@EverMoreNUFC]

Thanks Dave, I'm sure we could have done another hour if we'd had the time.

[@corronord]

Fantastic video Chris. 🖤🤍

[@WilliamCarr-qe8sl]

Chris it’s weird not hearing you swear!😅

[@EverMoreNUFC]

I can do it when needed bud 🤣👍

[@WilliamCarr-qe8sl]

@@EverMoreNUFC Hahaha!…great watch by the way, 👍

[@BigDom61]

How are we told we can spend 113 million over 3 years then in the next breath we have to sell to buy

[@georgemorley1029]

Because the years go back as well as forwards I suppose

[@paulenglish7500]

It's not that the club can spend 113mil over three years. We can make a loss of 113mil over three years.

[@ericengleby265]

PSR means fans of not established clubs will be screwed over. As fans will be expected to fork out more for merchandise etc etc

[@TDM1165]

It was an interesting discussion and your man certainly seems a gent and all, but I disagree with many of the points made, the idea that not selling longstaff almiron Murphy and Wilson in 2023 when they had maximum worth value wise is a commendable example of howes loyalty is borderline asinine, the great managers were ruthless Kieron! I think it just comes from him not knowing the club and the players etc as well as we do. We’ve needed a RW for two years, that’s not PSR, that’s incompetence

[@EverMoreNUFC]

Certainly divides opinion mate 👍

[@markspark7634]

I hate to add some truth, bit you are wrong,,the club has tried to solve the rw problem, Barnes was bought so Gordon and Barnes could both play interchanging lw and rw,,unfortunately it didn't work, partly because both are so good at lw

[@wouldbfarmer2227]

My entire wardrobe is worth about £90.

[@BigDom61]

Why has the money not been increased since it was brought out

[@happinesstan]

I don't have a problem with players doubling their salary, through transfer. It's the fact they then think that is their true value, when looking for a new club.

[@ChristopherMaddison-x6g]

How can any team say they have won the prem league fair and square when the Premier league are holding other clubs back.

[@silverback710]

Cant negate the fact that a new stadium makes sense its progress for the club as we are currently at a point were pur stadium albeit amazing is lacking in comparison and it wont be long before the likes of villa everton brighton and anyone else there abouts were we are is ahead of us its time for us to evolve now regardless of ticket pricing.. even now for some its out of reach and was 10 year ago for some of us. Bias fans and fans that play the "didnt support us wen ashley was here dont support us now" load of 💩 needs to be done for the good of newcastle as a team and at the moment its the biggest thing we can do to move us forward

[@kendo5862]

You could argue Chelsea an Forest prove the rule san and should be ignored if you need to progress. Our gross and net spend is incomparable to other teams … no one in PL will buy our players … we undersold ASM

[@jamesmoore6125]

Anderson and Minteh wouldn’t get into our starting 11. Get over it.

[@Baldnesz]

Rent up, mortgages up...doesn't leave much for ticket price increases .

[@zacksmith9864]

I think it's unfair to blame the owners for the price of shirts because it's the same for every club I agree they shouldn't be that high but it's not something unique to any club it's every club

[@TheClonlad]

(73.4)+(70.7)−27.8=116m loss over 3 years. We must be close to a PSR breach even though we reported a profit for 2024 financial year of 23m. Max losses is 105m over 3 years. Not sure when need to balance the books and whether it's June or December. Can't see us signing anyone in January looking at those numbers. That 1st loss 73m loss will off our 3 year calculation this year which hopefully gives us some wiggle room. The 70% salary rules then kick in next season for teams in Europe which is going to restrict us should we qualify. Rules are a farce.

[@jm8308]

Where is the huge incoming investments that the Saudis have access to around the world. Commercially no where hear good enough for 3yrs gone. Life long supporter here. If commercially they were stronger psr would be better. Can the√ also offer loans to club maybe? I think Saudis want us to be self sustainable tbh

[@TonyODOnnell-tt8gh]

@@jm8308 The new stadium. Patience... Rome wasn't built in a day. Plus we have the corrupt p.league to deal with.... Beleave you me, we're flying, considering ... lol

[@chriscummings1279]

Training ground and stadium sponsor it's a joke how this hasn't been put into place

[@jm8308]

Hi Tony agree on patience BUT we are 3yrs in and stadium will be another 3yrs off. If you want to be number 1 you have to hit the ground running and catch up as quick as you can and for me Chris cummings is correct a bit of a joke how little they have done to bridge the gap

[@TonyODOnnell-tt8gh]

@jm8308 Hallo, mate. When you put it like that, I kind of *agree with you...

[@jm8308]

I wish I was wrong mate we all want us to do well and be the best we can be no matter how long it takes but these lot have the type of money to change things big time and make things happen the type of money to get their own way. Thanks for taking my comment the correct way tho mate appreciate it :)

[@michael5091]

To compete with the big guys we need to drastically increase our revenue. We need to hire some serious PR experts and if necessary sell our soul to get to the level we need to be at (its only short term, we'll be fine lol). I would suggest we milk the saudi market for all its worth. The football league is starting to get some traction in saudi and with our connections to the country surely there is a way to explout that connection. Turn the country black and white and youve got an extremely rich country to sell to. Id copy man utds strategy they used in china/japan in the 90's and 00's.

[@yeomsta]

So glad i started following another sport aswell as football, so when it becomes clear thats its impossible newcastle can ever compete for a prolonged period, i can leave this corrupt pile of toss sport in the rear view mirror.

[@BryAron.]

i wouldnt pay for it

[@paulstones1451]

The bloke who said we could spend around 800 million when the take over happened the bloke talks crap

[@TonyODOnnell-tt8gh]

@@paulstones1451 don't watch it, simples. : )

[@gruffy4967]

Another one who has no idea about PSR and FFP. Go and read up about it, watch a video, anything other than looking ill informed.

[@paulstones1451]

@@gruffy4967 it was him that said it lol

[@paulstones1451]

@@TonyODOnnell-tt8gh I didn't I posted the comment and skipped past it

[@gruffy4967]

@@paulstones1451 Oh dear, it appears you have difficulty in reading and comprehension. He said the Newcastle owners will have spent over 700 million pounds, not that they will sign that much in players. Be better.

[@robhawkins3712]

Our problem is we're absolutely piss poor sellers, we bend over too easy. Yes, we've not had many sellable assets from the back end of Ashley's era, but almiron should have gone after his purple patch, we all knew what it was, he didn't just become a great player overnight, wilson should have gone, given his injury record and getting closer and closer to his 30's, his injuries weren't going to stop, infact, we all know the muscles aren't the same at and after 30, so he was always going struggle more. We've not pushed hard enough to get players like hayden, lewis, targett off the books permanently. If we sold them 3 players and got £8-10m, it's money in the bank and about £130k a week off the wages. Wilson and almiron are taking near to £110k a week home and they've barely kicked a ball this season. Gillespie hasnt kicked a ball simce 30th September 2020. The bloke is being paid £10k a week to have a wank everyday. We don't let young players go quick enough when we've decided they're not good enough, Watts, Barlaser, vilca etc... we're not selling or letting them go when they had a bit of sale value, insteadwe keep renewing contracts. Watts was 24 when we finally decided release him, vilca 24, barlaser was also 24. Ashby(23), and white(22) are clearly not going make it but they're still on the books, ashby has been a total waste of money, why we spent close to £2m on him for him never kick a ball competitively. Joe white is 22 and still getting loaned out to a team in league 2. We didnt push to get fraser, hendrick, clark or gayle out for a small fee instead they piss off on loan and or just let them run their contract down. Keep letting them go on loan isn't good enough, yes, we may temporarily free up wages for 6/12months, but get them off the books for a nominal fee. Getting more sellable assets tkaes time, but weve not been good enough at what weve done so far when it comes to selling. We've got to do better.

[@anon-zk6iz]

Because Eddie likes to hold onto fossils.

[@robhawkins3712]

@anon-zk6iz he does, even now, we need to get rid in order to bring in, and he still doesn't want let anybody go. 🤦🏻 if he wants the team to get better and progress, then he's got "man up" about letting players go.

[@sheilagibson8263]

That 70% rule = new stadium 🏟 💯 noo....we will never be on a level playing field with those friggin stats🖤🤍