NUFC Owners Plan To Remain at St James’ Park: WORLD CLASS Stadium Transformation Explained

[@festihead]

Eddie, I love your videos and always look for new content. Loved this series you talk complete sense unlike all the younguns trying to be like you n them yankee clickbait vids grrrr! Here's looking at a rebuilt hopefully in my/our lifetimes! As a side note and as a fella geordie (sandancer) The way you put yourself across as a geordie is brilliant! well spoken, intelligent, vocally and gramatically impeccable! It's awesome to see n hear a true geordie doing so well, keep it up mate

[@TynesideLife]

That’s very kind of you sir thank you 🙏 🫡

[@richardjames3356]

Not all the 'younguns' are bad. Awaydays, StuntPegg, Smiv and HITCSevens all have good content (albeit not NUFC focused)

[@kevinbelshaw8694]

Couldn't have said it better myself .... well done Eddie. Top factual content as always.

[@adebarre1]

I'm not a Newcastle supporter, I'm a Chelsea supporter, but I am old enough to remember Bob Moncur and Wyn Davies playing for them. I have always had an interest in the great historic clubs, Newcastle, Wolves, Sheff Weds, etc. So I regularly watch the uploads. I just wanted to say how interesting and informative they are. I have never visited Newcastle, and since retirement a few years ago ill health has so far ruined my plan to do so. Sadly I doubt I will be around to see the new Stadium, but certainly Newcastle deserves a World class one. I find your uploads really interesting and enjoyable. They are a helpful distraction for me. Obviously they are aimed at Toon fans, but I just wanted to say thank you as a lover of football in general. I think it would be nice to spend a few days in Newcastle and its on the to do list. In any event I hope you get the Stadium you all deserve.

[@TynesideLife]

That’s a very kind message Ade and appreciated thank you 🙏 ☝️👊🏻👍🏻

[@Steve-o1u8y]

Lovely words, God Bless you mate.

[@acasacas9844]

Great post that fella

[@Ourjudd]

U forgot to mention Blackpool in your list of historic clubs but I’ll forgive you 😂

[@danlawson6652]

Nicely said Ade. ❤

[@malthorn568]

Thanks Eddie for the factual updates, always appreciated and keeping us upto date 👍👍

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers Mal 👊🏻👍🏻

[@jjcharlton]

Eddy, I’ve seen so much stadium clickbait on this platform the last couple of weeks. And it’s been doing my head in. Thank you so much for this well constructed piece of content. Puts all the rumours to bed. Excellent delivery and can see how much research has gone into this. Well in. 🤝⚫️⚪️

[@TynesideLife]

Thank you mate 🙏👊🏻

[@Tillflyfisher]

I'm With you on 6, that's my views too. Great content buddy

[@kendorsed]

EFC blue here. I get you so much. I really hope you guys get what you want. We have waited years to get our new stadium. It is nearly complete. Yous will win at Bramley Moore one day. Up the Toon! coyb!

[@TynesideLife]

☝️👊🏻👍🏻

[@mandypyle6495]

I really do hope your right they knock it down and then rebuild,it would be fantastic

[@PatrickStarfishman]

@craig3613 I can see a scenario where the have reduced attendances for a year so that they can rebuild a stand at a time and expand in situ.

[@alfiemeadows3541]

I’m a Leicester fan always love going to Newcastle away. All the pubs near the ground I do actually love the design of the ground and the old school modern design of it. Really enjoy watching this video mate 👍. Newcastle is a great city would love to live in Newcastle one day

[@TynesideLife]

👊🏻👍🏻

[@thesaint-n3b]

you must be pissed to wanna live in newcastle 😂

[@kevinrichardson889]

Great bit of information, Benton lad joined the Royal Marines aged 16 in 1977 , lived in Plymouth ever since and obviously follow the Toon. Thank you for the great videos and information best regards George Richardson

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers Kev 👊🏻👍🏻

[@OneEpicEric]

As an Arsenal fan I would love to see a new stadium for Newcastle United. Their fans are some of the best and will bring a brilliant atmosphere to their new home.

[@johnnouk59]

As Everton fan I came across your video .. Which I found to be informative and well thought out .. I only wished our new stadium had a least 55,000 capacity instead of 52, 888 ( pass why it has been set at this capacity) .. But it can increase to 62,000 with standing if the Government approve standing again in English football .. Anyway thanks for video and I'm sure you Newcastle fans can't wait to see what the plans are for St James' Park ..

[@TynesideLife]

Great message and thanks for sharing John 👊🏻👍🏻

[@glynrhys68]

Hi John Yes 53,000 is clearly too small for EFC. And I'd love to see old school standing back in the top divisions - Rugby League, Rugny Union and GAA and lower leagues have no problems with standing, and while Safe Standing is ok it doesn't increase capacity. Highly controlled, capacity wise, and with an increase in barriers etc, standing is as safe as seating without barriers. But why do you think it's even possible? Is it being discussed as far as you know?

[@johnburton7633]

Not blowing smoke up your ar*e here Eddie but although I also enjoy many other channels on KZbin, yours is my No 1 that I go to for your factual honest views. Fully researched and no bulls**t. Love your content and wish you, Helen and the lovely doggos well my friend. 🙏 👍

[@TynesideLife]

Thank you John 🙏👊🏻👍🏻

[@MarkWeir-cr5tk]

An incredible series of videos that are newsworthy and of a very high standard. Lucky we have you Eddy and some famous journalists are not comparable when work compared. Totally concur with your summary, as well.

[@TynesideLife]

Thank you Mark 🙏👊🏻

[@sand12496]

Great video again Eddie always make lot sense & love how you do research before making the videos

[@TynesideLife]

Thank you Sandy 🙏

[@BoldonBigLad]

As always Eddie an excellent video and many thanks as always for taking the time to actually look into this issue as opposed to simply jumping on the bandwagon of the popular rumours doing the rounds on social media. I follow several Toon vloggers for various reasons, but when I need a balanced and honest view you're the man to come to. Another point I always think is integral as to why we have to stay close to where we are is the sheer amount of money that is spent in the city centre on match days. If Newcastle were forced out to the city outskirts or even beyond the backlash from merchants would be too much for the council.

[@TynesideLife]

Thank you Keith 🙏👊🏻 You should note however that in order to move away from the city centre, they’d need majority fan approval anyway. That ain’t going to happen I’m certain

[@centurion8446]

Another issue is moving it "downwards" aka westwards and even northwards into Leazes, if the road can be altered in conjunction with the council we can expand both Eastern and Gallowgate stand while re-doing main and Leazes stand with larger concourses and facilities etc while not obstructing light or parkland too much

[@TynesideLife]

There’ll be no encroachment of the road bud and there’s actually no need to 👍🏻

[@davidharrison6321]

I found this video through a comment on a The Mag article. Absolutely first class, the best discussion I've seen yet on this subject.

[@TynesideLife]

Thank you David 🙏👊🏻

[@deanharding740]

The stadium of light has a very low visual profile but the pitch is well below ground level which allows seats to start at a lower level so I’m guessing that’s always an option if you can’t go up more you can possibly go down to create capacity.

[@TynesideLife]

In order to go down, trigonometry suggests there’s a need to spread out. We don’t really have that luxury

[@raindancer80]

Thanks for this, well set out and you're probably right. Nothing will be done for 4 years, and then it'll take 4 years to build the thing and start playing there, so I'm not going to worry too much about it now!

[@TynesideLife]

Exactly ☝️👍🏻

[@davetrueman6354]

Another well thought out and considered report. You’re absolutely correct on the current state of SJP regarding the concourses and facilities, in the case of the East stand they hark back to the 70’s. The stadium is lopsided and showing its age, I would love something like the Mercedes Benz stadium, how we achieve that is another matter.

[@TynesideLife]

☝️👊🏻👍🏻

[@davymedd753]

Another good one Eddy, thanks for your insights and hard work

[@pennycatterick5148]

I applaud you Eddie for such a considered assessment. The time you've taken to present rational arguments is there for us all to see. Now,...on your proposition, I love your idea of a new stadium being modeled on a Yorkshire pudding,...being a fan of that delicacy it would appeal to me. Nevertheless, I believe simplicity of solution/outcome will most likely be the priority for NUFC;...probably around the 70-75k capacity mark; because that will be the most economical. I also wonder if the news that the Halls of Residence on Castle Leazes are being re-built presents an opportunity for a collaboration. So,...based on your wonderful information, I'd paint this picture, a new stadium on Castle Leazes, St James sustained until the new build is complete, then replaced with parkland in front of Leazes terrace. I think this approach brings sooooooooooooo many benefits for all agencies. I also believe Leazes park will be refurbished as part of the new stadium build. We are United PennyXxx

[@TynesideLife]

Hi Penny, thank you for the kind words again 🙏👊🏻 Unfortunately there are a few flaws you’ve missed with your suggestion on this one, but I won’t labour it in here 😅

[@TheBulbiis]

Really enjoyed your video , very informative and interesting. Only time will tell what will happen . Totally agree we are falling behind in regards to the facilities and the matchday off the pitch experience. 👍

[@fenham]

Whether your ideas turn out to be right or wrong many thanks for presenting them. It’s been an interesting series and I appreciate the work you’ve done to present these videos.. #HTL

[@TynesideLife]

👊🏻👍🏻

[@Halfirishdan]

From a fan of another club, that was a very interesting video. I always thought that you’d bring up the four stands to the same height (which would look amazing having been to St James’ in the away end myself), but never realised that those buildings needing to be knocked down were listed. Good work sir 👍

[@TynesideLife]

That’s appreciated thank you 🫡

[@timtaylor953]

Great video Eddy, loved the series. Really looking forward to see what you cover next away from Nufc .

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers Tim 👊🏻👍🏻

[@leeshearer998]

Excellent series Eddie. Well researched and very plausible and likely outcome

[@TynesideLife]

Thank you Lee 🙏👊🏻

[@Raggattoni]

I do have to correct you about the Grade 1 Listed building. After the Winsor Castle Fire multiple Grade 1 building of the same period were deconstructed to provide building materials for the reconstruction. More than half a dozen period correct coach houses across the North West and Cumbria were taken apart brick and slate by brick and slate and went to the Winsor project. However, this is a pedantic point as it has no baring on our need to expand SJP. Just wanted to be accurate. Great work all the same Eddie, keep up the great work. I whole heartedly agree with your conclusions. Best wishes for your future success mate

[@TynesideLife]

Hi mate, I love learning new things but its my under that Grade 1 buildings weren’t moved or dismantled completely to assist with this. They were Grade II but I’m happy yo be corrected if you can provide some details? Really glad you appreciated the video and I love hearing from well read fans 🙏👊🏻

[@shauncarey9861]

Good to see you back Eddy.

[@claire6186]

Hi Eddy! I live right next to the Town Moor and Leazes Park and am very interested in their protection. However, I think snipping a bit off the park at the Leazes end, as you suggest here, is by far the most sensible option. It could really increase the stadium and revenue by just those few hundred metres jutting into the Town Moor, it wouldnt ruin the Victorian park or Leazes Terrace, and would retain the incredible and famous legacy (and atmosphere) of the current venue which is in a golden spot for football, for the city, fans and visitors alike. I dont see why we need a stadium of the size of cities like London and Manchester, when Newcastle is a small, compact city. 62,000 capacity would be ideal, plus there's also the option of Safe Standing which could also increase capacity. This is the ideal option! Thanks for researching all the other options, and all your great work! 👍

[@TynesideLife]

Thank you Claire 🙏

[@jpmtlhead39]

Ive did Live and Work in the UK for 14 years( i return to my country in 2016) ,and as an Die Hard Football Fan while my staying in the UK i tried to at least to see one match of the most Famous Football Teams in the UK. And with some "sacrifices" i did manage to do that,and honestly from every Stadiums i visited the ones that i like and impressed me the most,are the Wembley and St James' Park. St James' Park in my personal opinion overall as more conditions than Anfield, Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge.

[@1702PK]

A lot of time and effort put into this Eddie. Excellent work and hats off to you.

[@TynesideLife]

Thank you Peter 🙏👊🏻

[@jonny177]

Great informative series Eddie. Cheers for putting all the time and leg work in with the research to give us a better idea of what the actual crack is. So much of the stuff that comes out elsewhere seems to be heresay that is repeated so many times that it becomes valid somehow. It's nice to hear some proper well researched info.

[@TynesideLife]

Thank you Jonny ☝️🙏👊🏻

[@keithsaint8829]

Great research as always I wouldn’t go anywhere else for information on the ground so thanks for the work you do. Very much appreciated

[@TynesideLife]

🙏👊🏻

[@rogerjohnstone8959]

Eddy, Once again you have produced a professional and comprehensive series of videos. You research and analyse all aspects and deliver your unbiased, balanced views with aplomb. Keep up the great work and, I am sure, we are all eager to see the next series. Roger NZ

[@TynesideLife]

Thank you again Roger 🙏👍🏻

[@WOLFIE-96B-UK]

Great video Eddie! I've followed NUFC for nearly 60 years, from standing in the Popular Side with my Dad up to the present day. For me, SJP is NUFC and long may be so!

[@TynesideLife]

👊🏻👍🏻

[@SilverbackMattG]

Class Eddie just watched your Byker wall video as well on the way to work really interesting learning about the city through your videos Keep up the good work mate Big fan

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers Matt 👊🏻👍🏻

[@ahermens]

Top fella. I really hope St James Park is rebuilt. One of my best memories going there as a young buck!

[@TynesideLife]

It will I’m sure 👌

[@ahermens]

@@TynesideLife I just think Newcastle hopefully look at Spurs and how a rebuild at the same location can really work. Im a Spurs supporter, I think for £££ may be Newcastle can look at a roof cover for events outside football?

[@TynesideLife]

@@ahermens I agree ☝️

[@scottcarmichael4751]

Excellent video and content eddie well done😂👍

[@howardgibson6676]

Great video series mate. Think you're definitely on the mark with your idea. Shame to see the old Cathedral go but we must now look to the future. Onwards and upwards to brighter times

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers bud 👊🏻👍🏻 I would add that our ‘old cathedral’ is only just over two decades old

[@howardgibson6676]

@@TynesideLife only use the "old cathedral" as a term of endearment lol. It's all the grandson has known and he's not happy about us moving/changing it lol. I'll never forget his words when we finally managed to get tickets, he looked at me as we took our seats and said "grandad, it's good to be back"

[@richardjames3356]

14:24 - Always wondered where we'd go temporarily. The mackems obviously wouldn't have us and Boro is a bit too far to go imo. Maybe one of those container stadiums like Qatar had for the stands round Gateshead stadium?

[@TynesideLife]

👍🏻

[@Chairmakersfilms]

One thing not considered as part of a rebuild of the existing site, is to lower the pitch level to below the existing level it sits at. This would enable a newly built East stand (Leazes) side to not impose on the beautiful terrace while increasing capacity. Overall the stadium could be larger, but be less dominating on the urban environment, it could be made to blend in better with that magnificent park as well. Currently its a bit of an eye sore that totally overshadows its surrounding area. Manchester Citys' Etihad is an example of a stadium that increased its capacity from when it was built for the Commonwealth games, by removing the athletics track, digging down, and building a lower terrace which made it into the football stadium it is today.

[@TynesideLife]

It has been suggested many times. Something you haven’t considered with a potential lowering of the pitch though, is that trigonometry suggests that when you dig down, you need to spread out. Angles…That’s a luxury we don’t have.

[@Chairmakersfilms]

@@TynesideLife 14.38 mins you mention about 20-30 metres spare land, this from aerial pics ive looked at is currently used as the car park, and media parking for broadcast lorries. Currently the pitch follows the line of Leazes terrace. If we consider demolition of stadium. The pitch could be reoriented to make better use of this space. This is how i would envision an incorporation of a lowered pitch level being possible. I appreciate that as things are now it would not work. Also taking into account the design of the existing giant stands such as the Leazes end and the Milburn stand, they are quite wasteful of space in that they have a very large lower tier. A new build would probably have many tiers which would enable a smaller footpriint in the available space. Tottenhams stadium sits on limited space (though slightly bigger area then Newcastle) and has 5 tiers down the side lines, 3 of which are for the much valued prawn cocktail brigade.

[@TynesideLife]

Now we’re having a better conversation 👍🏻 I think I said a move of around 30-40m which would take us into Leazes Park around 20m? Even a stadium move/stretch of 30-40m would mean we still wouldn’t be able to move any noticeable distance from Leazes Tce, meaning a dig down still may still present the same angle issues. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Albeit the stadium would be a little more flush with it. One of the biggest ways to generate higher revenue is to explore better concourse facilities, corporate areas and hospitality. This would likely mean a stadium footprint that would still be larger than our current size which is around 40m thinner than Spurs snd a little shorter. This could be countered by building it steeper 👍🏻 At least we’re on the same wavelength now and can see great potential for a world class stadium. I’m certain Populus are already have architect drawing up the plans for the next stage 👊🏻

[@alandinsdale3599]

With regards to building on the Castle Leazes site, would it not be possible to sink a stadium into the ground even more than the proposal in 97, and therfore allow a greater amount of light to reach the new halls of resistance buildings? Also, offsetting the infringement into Leazes park by turning over the land that St James' park currently sits on for an expansion of the park would surely offer a better outlook for Leazes Terrace and help win over opinion to the project. you could even offer to help fund improvement work to the existing areas of the park as well, something i think it would greatly benefit from due to their funding issues in recent years.

[@andrewbotto6802]

As usual great video. Food for thought

[@alexnowis2468]

Hey Eddie, long term viewer here when focusing on NUFC & specifically stadium related topics. It pains me to say this, but I think you are right, all the other options just arent realistic. If they do rebuild SJP, it would be fantastic to keep it in the city centre location, i'd be really curious to see what that would look like. Other examples (Spurs, Real Madrid) prove it can be done, but I don't think they had the space challenges that SJP does. Thank you for your time, research & dedication to this!

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers Alex 🙏👊🏻

[@Nathan-vw9du]

Love your content Eddie, helps the hours go by at sea also :)

[@TynesideLife]

Just don’t get sick 🤢 😅

[@garyley4270]

Well Eddy, this is a really good video, and after watching believe that you are spot on. Good to get a well thought out video, with so much detail. This has been a fascinating series of videos. I guess for whatever reason in my head I had been hoping for a new stadium, nearby. But the points you make and reasons make me see that a rebuild is the best option. I had imagined an 80000 new stadium was the best option. But I guess it's making best use of what's there, optimising things and having first class facilities that will serve the cub best.

[@TynesideLife]

Thank you Gary. Not that I’m an expert but there are too many people out there throwing around ill thought out supposition, which then become curiously valid over time.

[@nrg4141]

Great video Eddie. Love it as always. I do think the fact the student blocks are getting pulled down is something that could twist and shape things further. Could they rebuild elsewhere? Could the right offer tempt the MOD to move elsewhere too? All of a sudden you're maybe loooking at being able to build right up into that area - and not touching Leazes Park at all. Maybe I'm dreaming, but it's interesting there's already plans to demolish the Castle Leazes student blocks. Those replacement buildings could be built anywhere... Still, could absolutely see an Aviva stle stadium on the same footprint. Could it even go out over the main road there with the road running under? Could be incredible. Also, pleased you called out the fact that in comparison to truly world class stadiums the facilities at St James' are crap. For some reason people think the owners won't be considering how to maintain or intensify atmosphere in the stadium. For sure, they'll be already consulting with acoustic specialists to make sure anything new is even louder than St James'. Why moe clubs don't ensure that with new stadiums is beyond me.

[@TynesideLife]

These projects take years to plan and develop and those blocks have been there since 1969. Work starts this summer and will take 3-4 years to complete. Developments like this can’t just turn on a dime and be transferred somewhere else bud. They will definitely go ahead. I’ve enclosed a copy of the planned proposals in the video description if you’d like to understand more. Also note that NUFC aren’t currently looking at this land and even if they were to in the future, it would take a considerable amount of time to plan and gain the necessary permissions. This would likely be 2-3 years if they started next week. Fantasy world I’m afraid bud

[@nrg4141]

​@@TynesideLifeoh I get that, and totally agree. Appreciate it's fantasy land. But if the club decided this summer to absolutely go for it, and throw money at the Uni / MOD for relocation, then there's technically nothing stopping either relocating. Will it happen. Almost certainly not. But ... when you look at the costs, time frames, and complexities of a total rebuild on the current footprint - where land remains limited, and we'd have to find a new home for multiple seasons ... I'd back them to continue to explore Castle Leazes in one way or another. And as I said, if those blocks are getting pulled down anyway ... they could theoretically at least, be built anywhere else if the right offer came in. Will that happen. Massively doubtful. But in my mind, an distinct outside possibility.

[@vordman]

Very interesting and well-researched video. I'm totally with you on the Leazes Terrace, to even think about moving that beautiful structure is madness. Apparently the interiors are just as impressive. A football stadium is just steel and concrete, knock it down and shift it a thirty yards.

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers bud 👊🏻👍🏻 Actually the interior is quite ordinary. I was shown inside around 18 months ago 😅 it’s the Facade that gives it its Grade 1 listing. Needless to say, that building is going nowhere.

[@micky1858]

How about Building the new stadium on the Castle leazes plot still and build the new student accommodation where SJP is now. Would that be possible?

[@TynesideLife]

I don’t even know where to start with dismantling this theory Micky, as it’s so impossible, so I’ll just say no. 😅

[@RitaFarrow]

eddie, again great content,all i will say is, watch this space, and get ready to go [ forward that is ] cheers

[@andrewrtbaron69]

Castle Leazes and yes I watched the video. The only reasonable negative was the possible light to the student flats. That can be overcome with use of glass design at that end or perhaps the stadium could be spun through 90 degrees as to that shown in the 90s design. It would be a disaster to stay where we are: knocking it down and rebuild disrupts revenue so that's a no and piecemeal redevelopment does the same and doesn't change the general configuration: low amount of food/corporate/drinks and other income generators.

[@TynesideLife]

That’s not the only problem for the Castle Leazes site Andrew which is covered in video 3 and still remains. Not to mention pointing out the obvious that the club aren’t currently looking at this land in any official capacity

[@andrewrtbaron69]

I doubt they would until the feasibility study on SJP is complete, since the preference is to remain. Once that is done, and the conclusion is that its not feasible to expand/radically change SJP, then we move on to stage #2 @@TynesideLife

[@TynesideLife]

I would disagree with your conclusion Andrew. Stage 2? As I say in the video, I’m not in a position to dismiss Castle Leazes and it is an area of land I was excited about, but the more I’ve researched it, the less likely it has become.

[@TynCan]

Thanks Eddie very comprehensive as always!

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers Mike 👊🏻👍🏻

[@colinshield2769]

Thanks Eddie for great and informative video.

[@TynesideLife]

👊🏻👍🏻

[@LeeStewart]

What about moving the ground West of its location? Where you were stood with an available pass through for Barrack Road. There was enough room for a stadium next to Barrack Road in 2008 before new buildings were constructed there.

[@TynesideLife]

You can’t move it West Lee as there are tower blocks lining the other side of the road. If they did move the footprint there is some minor scope to move it slightly West however but only by a few metres Even in a parallel world, your idea wouldn’t actually achieve anything different

[@LeeStewart]

@@TynesideLifeI personally believe a rebuild is the best solution. Like what Barcelona are doing right now. A replicated version of the Arriva stadium in Ireland with its transparent roof would produce enough natural light for the grade one listed buildings behind it.

[@TynesideLife]

There only needs to be majority fan approval to move out of the city centre location Lee. I’d forget the HMRC site bud

[@michaeljp9605]

Great work Eddie, I totally agree a rebuild is without doubt the best option, but won’t be without some pain while being built. But a rebuild might not take so long bearing in mind the foundations are already in place

[@TynesideLife]

I agree ☝️

[@ne48largekid17]

world class stadium this, world class facilities that i think your videos are world class mate i could watch them for hours and hours 🤜

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers bud ☝️👊🏻👍🏻

[@christopherkerrigan9225]

Another great watch now I believe we are staying for a while.CHEERS EDDIE

[@TynesideLife]

Forever Christopher 👊🏻👍🏻

[@Wheyayemanchannel]

Hi Eddie just watched your video. I can’t see the club moving the ground on current site if it means the east stand stays the same. Absolutely no point in that much upheaval. It will either be a complete new stadium in another location or just stay the way it is.

[@TynesideLife]

There’s no other locations bud, which is how it comes down to rebuild. In addition, I mentioned in the video that Populus have hinted at what they can do, which is forms the basis of the video conclusion. The point of taking advantage of a rebuild and moving the footprint slightly is to alleviate the heightening of the Gallowgate stand without compromising the Metro tunnel or road. That’s a huge reason. It also lines the stadium up better with Leazes Tce for a short stand (like Aviva) The stadium definitely won’t stay as it is

[@luisaviles455]

I think st James park has a unique look. I love the contrast between the small stands right next to the larger stands, almost surreal. And we have some badass stadiums here in america, but I love st James look

[@billrailton712]

Only thing I have seen or heard that makes any sense! 👍

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers Bill 🙏👊🏻

[@philcampbell2249]

Great stuff, Eddie. Really informative and insightful, as always.

[@TynesideLife]

👊🏻👍🏻

[@AlanBrownPhotography]

Thanks Eddy. I always enjoy hearing your educated perspective.

[@TynesideLife]

Thank you Alan but who said I was educated 😅

[@freddiehardicre8752]

Eddie they moved the shambles square including the old Wellington pub,and synclairs which was 1558 grade 1 building in Manchester they relocated it due to re development of market square due to the ira bomb they moved it 500metres brick by brick.

[@TynesideLife]

It’s a Grade II LISTED BUILDING Freddie. Nice try 😃

[@freddiehardicre8752]

Sorry Eddie my mistake it was a work of art when they did it thou you never know good luck with the stadium re build from a city fan.​@@TynesideLife

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers bud 👊🏻👍🏻

[@Freddieduda]

The optimise v maximize capacity part of the video was very well explained by you Eddie 👍I do think whatever happens in the future regarding the stadium they are interesting times ahead for the Newcastle supporters.

[@TynesideLife]

Thank you 👊🏻👍🏻

[@cougardeveronvale6701]

Best one of all the Relocation/Rebuild series Eddie 🎉

[@TynesideLife]

Thank you sir 🫡

[@malcolmscott8588]

Good to see you mate enjoy your videos

[@TynesideLife]

You too Malcolm 👊🏻👍🏻

[@QuotidianStupidity]

Spurs fan but been interested in St James' park rebuild since I used to fill in the two smaller stands playing LMA on the Playstation! Really hope you guys get a final result you can be proud of, just like the Everton stadium. It's a good time for English football.

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers bud 👊🏻👍🏻

[@PHDiaz-vv7yo]

What a great and considered video. I’m a proper stadium geek especially after my beloved Spurs did the necessary and currently watching and hoping my local at Luton break ground at Power Court. It is about that sweet spot with capacity and bringing in revenue. I’ve never been to SJP but there is a vibe on the 21st century fan experience vs what I first visited at the old WHL and the stench of the urinals in the bastardised Shelf. Taking my sons to their first match at the Lane next week so I’ll be intrigued to gauge their experience especially as they’ve visited The Kenny a couple of times (and that’s as old school as you can get)

[@TynesideLife]

Thanks for sharing bud 🙏👊🏻👍🏻

[@DraelectricalsUk]

Brilliant video, agree completely. Finally someone talking sense!

[@TynesideLife]

🙏👊🏻

[@williamsmith1632]

Good video. Last week I heard someone put forth a possible way a rebuild might take place. When they break ground on the new training ground, they want to put up a stadium to hold about 30,000 for the women and academy teams to play. The plan would be to tear down SJP and rebuild basically on the existing footprint. The team would play at the training ground stadium on a temporary basis until the new SJP is up and running.

[@justinfletcher1882]

Thank you Eddie.

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers Justin 👊🏻👍🏻

[@justinfletcher1882]

@@TynesideLife you have a real skill in layering the I formation to make the listener / watcher comprehend what's going on until you get to the final and usually logical conclusion. Respect lovely man...

[@TynesideLife]

I appreciate that Justin. It takes me a long time to build the video 🙏👊🏻

[@user-wn4vv2te7p]

Top video as always Eddie

[@TynesideLife]

👊🏻👍🏻

[@rikkikinsella8703]

Am I totally wrong suggesting this? As you stand and we can see the stadium behind you, couldn't the Milburn/ leezes Corner and the full length of the Milburn stand be moved to follow Barrack Road, leading to more room on the east stand for expansion. Just a thought

[@rikkikinsella8703]

Basically, taking the car park land away that is directly.behind you

[@TynesideLife]

Well, you’ve eased one problem but created a bigger one. You’ll need to take measurements of a stadium that could be a little bigger than St James’ Park, then apply it to Google Earth mapping and see if you can see what the problem is… 👍🏻

[@DawnGraham-k5z]

You’re the wisest man with black and white blood! 🎉

[@TynesideLife]

Haha! Thank you Dawn

[@GrantJacob-ce6zo]

I went Montreal in Canada.The stadium was sunk (quarried) into Canadian bedrock,which is the hardest rock to quarry.Maybe St James could be sunk into the slope also solving the light infringement on leazes terrace .

[@TynesideLife]

Digging down means spreading out Grant. Unfortunately font have that luxury

[@adamtaylor7544]

I love watching your videos Eddie keep up the good work 👍

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers Adam 🙏👊🏻

[@KI55DUB]

So knock the Uni flats doon and build them at the existing grounds location then go big on that land ?

[@TynesideLife]

🙄

[@peterosullivan9942]

The steepness or 'rake' or the terraces is something every club that builds a new stadium bangs on about. The reality is that the rake is set by the green guide and cannot and will not be exceeded so whatever NUFC do, it won't be having stands steeper than any other clubs that have developed stadia in the last 30 odd years. This is a common and huge misunderstanding that many fans (and dare I say clubs) have. Max rake for a seated stand is 34 degrees which is the same sort of rake used at Bolton, Huddersfield, Middlesbrough, Southampton, Sunderland. Arsenal, Spurs as well as the new stands at Liverpool etc. NUFC will be no different.

[@TynesideLife]

This idea of steep sides at St James’ Park came from Populus, the world leading stadium developers 🤷🏻‍♂️ There wasn’t a suggestion by me to breach stadium rules 😅

[@northernengland]

I don't like football since the 70's but if so many people want to watch it, it will benefit all to have a larger stadium for the fans and the city's economy, I can't believe how nice Newcastle has become, it's the best city in the UK

[@tameracingdriver]

That's a very interesting theory, it's starting to look like we are going to stay where we are, despite most fans that I've seen anecdotally on social media seeming to come around to the idea of a new one. Given all of the facts you've presented, this would seem to be a strong option. We already have the land. The question is how do you build it. I'd guess it would be done in stages, much like in fact the original redevelopment from 1992-2001. Good video Eddie, enjoyed it!

[@D.R.Carpentry]

Class video mate.. 100% spot on with everything you say and felt the same myself throughout the paper talk of plans etc. knock down rebuild seems the only option tbh but relocate for a couple of seasons to anywhere near available size we need wouldn’t be possible

[@TynesideLife]

☝️👊🏻👍🏻

[@iainchiz17]

Ive always said the only option is to rebuild st james. The pronlem is where do we play in the meantime?

[@TynesideLife]

We don’t necessarily need to play somewhere else. There may be ways round that but at the very least we should all expect some significant disruption at the end of this decade👍🏻

[@iainchiz17]

@@TynesideLife it would be a very tall order to move footprint, completely rebuild and continue to use the stadium. Pretty much impossible. Unless u completely flattened it in the cloee season and had temp / moveable stands, cant see that nappening.

[@TynesideLife]

@@iainchiz17 possibly 🤷🏻‍♂️ although doing it in stages over perhaps four seasons would make that achievable. There are options to play somewhere else over two seasons and I don’t mean SOL 😅

[@iainchiz17]

@@TynesideLife aye fuck that shit hole 😀

[@garythomson1]

surely new build student blocks would help, most student blocks are city centre anyway with high rised building around??

[@TynesideLife]

You’ll need to rephrase that Gary as I’m didn’t understand your point ?

[@garythomson1]

@@TynesideLife I mean that the planning of new student accomodation should help the application from NUFC, legacy buildings, blocking light, I'd understand, but new build student accomodation, surely they won't complain about light issues???

[@TynesideLife]

@@garythomson1 they’re already established buildings that are being replaced by the same owners. Light will be an issue and planning has been granted based on no other substantial factors (like a football stadium). That’s not the only problem though. Theres still no guarantee that there wouldn’t be petitions, protests and objections by local residents and conservation groups for encroaching into the top of Leazes park by the lake. There’s a reason that NUFC are not showing any interest in the land bud…

[@jonny5alive7]

Really interesting series of videos, but I think we need an additional one. If they go with knocking down St James' and building a new one, the big question is where do the team play during that time? You briefly said move to Gateshead and setup some temporary stands, but it would need to be much more significant than that.

[@TynesideLife]

That was just an idea Jonny. They could also consider a temporary stadium but I did also mention that they may be able to carry out most of the rebuild in stages whilst we still played there. There’s no perfect solution and we should all prepare ourselves for disruption at the end of this decade

[@dannytilley4878]

As a non newcastle fan I love this channel and by looking in comments I'm not alone.

[@TynesideLife]

Thank you Danny 👊🏻👍🏻

[@normhanson981]

Superb research, thank you , I hope it gets built.

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers Norm 🙏👊🏻

[@alancurry4161]

Nice one Eddie, another informative insight, well done mate

[@TynesideLife]

Appreciated Alan 🙏👊🏻

[@alanclark9691]

A well thought out and presented video. Difficult to argue with you conclusions although I would like to raise a couple of issues: 1. A new stadium built elsewhere in Newcastle. I'm not familiar with the 'Fan Lead Review' that you refer to, but surely a new stadium built on say the HMRC site off Benton Park Rd , or even Gosforth Park, would still be within the city of Newcastle? Does the HMG document specifically refer to the "city centre" or simply the "city"? 2. The very major problem with rebuilding SJP you briefly touch on but don't really offer an answer. That is, where would NUFC play during the 2-3 years it would take to accomplish the construction? The S-o-L would be a non-starter, and I simply can't imagine Gateshead Stadium could be appropriately modified to accommodate 50k fans, including the logistics. This is major issue in the decision as to what to do. In my view the very best answer to this matter would be to build a new stadium on the Castle Leazes site, despite the problems you identify. This is a huge site and I believe a new stadium could be built on materially less than half the overall site. I believe the project should embrace the redevelopment of the entire Castle Leazes, Leazes Park and SJP sites. Further, I believe the stadium could be built with a minor impingement on the north west part of Leazes Park to maximise the distance from any new development of the student accommodation that you refer to. The existing SJP stadium would be removed, and Leazes Park would be extended/redeveloped to include the existing stadium site, and all the way down to Strawberry Place. This would become a new expanded city centre park, and could be made to be an absolutely fabulous amenity. This plan could be accomplished while still leaving at least half of the Castle Leazes site to meet the existing grazing rights. I would hope that the magnificent city centre park created as part of the project would be sufficient to persuade the city council and the Aldermen of it's massive civic value. I'd really appreciate your thoughts. Regards. Alan Clark

[@TynesideLife]

Hi Alan, thanks for your considered comment. The new FA regulations state that owners need majority fan approval to move away from their immediate vicinity. The HMRC site is around 4 miles away, away from the lure of city centre pubs and restaurants and is built in a predominantly residential area without the transport infrastructure to accommodate 60K fans. It’s a none starter for a few reasons. I haven’t completely dismissed the Castle Leazes site but you didn’t negate the significant new builds going on, the access to light with a bigger stadium, or the high risk of objections and protests by encroaching into that side of Leazes Park. For me, there are just too many things out of the clubs control. The club have made no enquiries re this land so even if they did in the near future, it would take 2-3 years of planning. There is also the fact that our club owners have employed Populous, the stadium rebuild specialists who rebuilt Spurs stadium and they have ready hinted at what could be achieved by rebuilding in its current location. I did cover at the end possible solutions as to playing during a rebuild, but there will be others 👍🏻

[@slippy1404]

Enjoyed watching this. I was always a fan of Sir John Halls vision that you covered. What I don’t understand is why clubs don’t dig down, placing the pitch & a tier or two completely underground level. It would solve the issues externally & im sure lots of environmental benefits of heating via underground piping etc.

[@TynesideLife]

Hi mate, digging down means spreading out (angles and trigonometry). It wouldn’t work within our tight footprint.

[@charliemckeever3192]

That's a brilliant informative video most likely the only option TBH to improve that capacity and quality of st James park eddy 👍👍👍

[@TynesideLife]

Glad you enjoyed it Charlie 👊🏻👍🏻

[@charliemckeever3192]

@@TynesideLife yeah definitely 👍👍 luck forward to the next 1nz...

[@mickser101]

I think they'll knock the East stand and build a bigger stand similar to Providence Park in Portland USA. Engineers and architects could come up with something for that footprint without going near the listed building behind it

[@TynesideLife]

The facilities throughout the stadium will still be crap and sub standard. I used to be of the same view as yourself. NUFC have enlisted Populus, who rebuilt Spurs Stadium to look at doing a similar thing for us. You may be right 🤷🏻‍♂️ but it seems very doubtful, when presented with all of the facts and circumstances. The likely outcome and something they’ve already strongly hinted at is a stadium rebuild.

[@mickser101]

@@TynesideLife You may be right and NUFC do deserve a World class Stadium one way or another whether knock and rebuild or build from new, also like you said the one in Atlanta is a gem like most NFL Stadiums. Only thing comparable in Prem is Spurs stadium and 60k to 70k would be about right

[@kevinsimpson4278]

Way to go lad, wow going to take years but when it's done I'm sure it's going to be a belter 😮

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers Kevin 👍🏻👊🏻

[@davidwalton8930]

Cheers Eddie outstanding information as usual

[@TynesideLife]

👊🏻👍🏻

[@terrybutler1096]

Excellent Eddy.. Another great presentation. I hope I'm still around to see the phoenix SJP arising..

[@TynesideLife]

🙏👍🏻

[@jokepy4230]

I've never been to St James Park but I have a question. How far above/below street level is the pitch ? Would it be possible to turn the pitch through 90 degrees and build out over Barrack Road ? I know in recent years there have been buildings erected on the south side of the road. Is there room to build above the existing road and only close it, say, on match days so that fans have a space to meet/move/mingle ? Leazes Terrace wouldn't be impacted and the other three sides could be developed.

[@kenloughran7186]

Another class video Eddy difficult decisions ahead mate

[@davidatkinson-Music-and-More]

Brilliant explanation Eddy. Well done.

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers David 👊🏻👍🏻

[@keithrichardsom1898]

Class and very informative thank you

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers Keith 👊🏻👍🏻

[@davidsmart285]

thanks for all the information, good show

[@TynesideLife]

👍🏻👊🏻

[@wolfdog14]

Top video Eddie. Let's see what happens next.