NUFC Owners Plan To Remain at St James’ Park: WORLD CLASS Stadium Transformation Explained

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Tyneside Life

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@festihead
@festihead 8 ай бұрын
Eddie, I love your videos and always look for new content. Loved this series you talk complete sense unlike all the younguns trying to be like you n them yankee clickbait vids grrrr! Here's looking at a rebuilt hopefully in my/our lifetimes! As a side note and as a fella geordie (sandancer) The way you put yourself across as a geordie is brilliant! well spoken, intelligent, vocally and gramatically impeccable! It's awesome to see n hear a true geordie doing so well, keep it up mate
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
That’s very kind of you sir thank you 🙏 🫡
@richardjames3356
@richardjames3356 8 ай бұрын
Not all the 'younguns' are bad. Awaydays, StuntPegg, Smiv and HITCSevens all have good content (albeit not NUFC focused)
@kevinbelshaw8694
@kevinbelshaw8694 8 ай бұрын
Couldn't have said it better myself .... well done Eddie. Top factual content as always.
@adebarre1
@adebarre1 8 ай бұрын
I'm not a Newcastle supporter, I'm a Chelsea supporter, but I am old enough to remember Bob Moncur and Wyn Davies playing for them. I have always had an interest in the great historic clubs, Newcastle, Wolves, Sheff Weds, etc. So I regularly watch the uploads. I just wanted to say how interesting and informative they are. I have never visited Newcastle, and since retirement a few years ago ill health has so far ruined my plan to do so. Sadly I doubt I will be around to see the new Stadium, but certainly Newcastle deserves a World class one. I find your uploads really interesting and enjoyable. They are a helpful distraction for me. Obviously they are aimed at Toon fans, but I just wanted to say thank you as a lover of football in general. I think it would be nice to spend a few days in Newcastle and its on the to do list. In any event I hope you get the Stadium you all deserve.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
That’s a very kind message Ade and appreciated thank you 🙏 ☝️👊🏻👍🏻
@Steve-o1u8y
@Steve-o1u8y 7 ай бұрын
Lovely words, God Bless you mate.
@acasacas9844
@acasacas9844 7 ай бұрын
Great post that fella
@RevoeLad
@RevoeLad 7 ай бұрын
U forgot to mention Blackpool in your list of historic clubs but I’ll forgive you 😂
@danlawson6652
@danlawson6652 6 ай бұрын
Nicely said Ade. ❤
@malthorn568
@malthorn568 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Eddie for the factual updates, always appreciated and keeping us upto date 👍👍
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Cheers Mal 👊🏻👍🏻
@kendorsed
@kendorsed 8 ай бұрын
EFC blue here. I get you so much. I really hope you guys get what you want. We have waited years to get our new stadium. It is nearly complete. Yous will win at Bramley Moore one day. Up the Toon! coyb!
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
☝️👊🏻👍🏻
@jjcharlton
@jjcharlton 8 ай бұрын
Eddy, I’ve seen so much stadium clickbait on this platform the last couple of weeks. And it’s been doing my head in. Thank you so much for this well constructed piece of content. Puts all the rumours to bed. Excellent delivery and can see how much research has gone into this. Well in. 🤝⚫️⚪️
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you mate 🙏👊🏻
@Tillflyfisher
@Tillflyfisher 8 ай бұрын
I'm With you on 6, that's my views too. Great content buddy
@alfiemeadows3541
@alfiemeadows3541 8 ай бұрын
I’m a Leicester fan always love going to Newcastle away. All the pubs near the ground I do actually love the design of the ground and the old school modern design of it. Really enjoy watching this video mate 👍. Newcastle is a great city would love to live in Newcastle one day
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
👊🏻👍🏻
@parklane8315
@parklane8315 7 ай бұрын
you must be pissed to wanna live in newcastle 😂
@mandypyle6495
@mandypyle6495 8 ай бұрын
I really do hope your right they knock it down and then rebuild,it would be fantastic
@PatrickStarfishman
@PatrickStarfishman 8 ай бұрын
@craig3613 I can see a scenario where the have reduced attendances for a year so that they can rebuild a stand at a time and expand in situ.
@johnnouk59
@johnnouk59 8 ай бұрын
As Everton fan I came across your video .. Which I found to be informative and well thought out .. I only wished our new stadium had a least 55,000 capacity instead of 52, 888 ( pass why it has been set at this capacity) .. But it can increase to 62,000 with standing if the Government approve standing again in English football .. Anyway thanks for video and I'm sure you Newcastle fans can't wait to see what the plans are for St James' Park ..
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Great message and thanks for sharing John 👊🏻👍🏻
@glynrhys68
@glynrhys68 7 ай бұрын
Hi John Yes 53,000 is clearly too small for EFC. And I'd love to see old school standing back in the top divisions - Rugby League, Rugny Union and GAA and lower leagues have no problems with standing, and while Safe Standing is ok it doesn't increase capacity. Highly controlled, capacity wise, and with an increase in barriers etc, standing is as safe as seating without barriers. But why do you think it's even possible? Is it being discussed as far as you know?
@johnburton7633
@johnburton7633 8 ай бұрын
Not blowing smoke up your ar*e here Eddie but although I also enjoy many other channels on KZbin, yours is my No 1 that I go to for your factual honest views. Fully researched and no bulls**t. Love your content and wish you, Helen and the lovely doggos well my friend. 🙏 👍
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you John 🙏👊🏻👍🏻
@OneEpicEric
@OneEpicEric 8 ай бұрын
As an Arsenal fan I would love to see a new stadium for Newcastle United. Their fans are some of the best and will bring a brilliant atmosphere to their new home.
@raindancer80
@raindancer80 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this, well set out and you're probably right. Nothing will be done for 4 years, and then it'll take 4 years to build the thing and start playing there, so I'm not going to worry too much about it now!
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Exactly ☝️👍🏻
@BoldonBigLad
@BoldonBigLad 8 ай бұрын
As always Eddie an excellent video and many thanks as always for taking the time to actually look into this issue as opposed to simply jumping on the bandwagon of the popular rumours doing the rounds on social media. I follow several Toon vloggers for various reasons, but when I need a balanced and honest view you're the man to come to. Another point I always think is integral as to why we have to stay close to where we are is the sheer amount of money that is spent in the city centre on match days. If Newcastle were forced out to the city outskirts or even beyond the backlash from merchants would be too much for the council.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Keith 🙏👊🏻 You should note however that in order to move away from the city centre, they’d need majority fan approval anyway. That ain’t going to happen I’m certain
@kevinrichardson889
@kevinrichardson889 7 ай бұрын
Great bit of information, Benton lad joined the Royal Marines aged 16 in 1977 , lived in Plymouth ever since and obviously follow the Toon. Thank you for the great videos and information best regards George Richardson
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 7 ай бұрын
Cheers Kev 👊🏻👍🏻
@Raggattoni
@Raggattoni 8 ай бұрын
I do have to correct you about the Grade 1 Listed building. After the Winsor Castle Fire multiple Grade 1 building of the same period were deconstructed to provide building materials for the reconstruction. More than half a dozen period correct coach houses across the North West and Cumbria were taken apart brick and slate by brick and slate and went to the Winsor project. However, this is a pedantic point as it has no baring on our need to expand SJP. Just wanted to be accurate. Great work all the same Eddie, keep up the great work. I whole heartedly agree with your conclusions. Best wishes for your future success mate
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Hi mate, I love learning new things but its my under that Grade 1 buildings weren’t moved or dismantled completely to assist with this. They were Grade II but I’m happy yo be corrected if you can provide some details? Really glad you appreciated the video and I love hearing from well read fans 🙏👊🏻
@davetrueman6354
@davetrueman6354 8 ай бұрын
Another well thought out and considered report. You’re absolutely correct on the current state of SJP regarding the concourses and facilities, in the case of the East stand they hark back to the 70’s. The stadium is lopsided and showing its age, I would love something like the Mercedes Benz stadium, how we achieve that is another matter.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
☝️👊🏻👍🏻
@pennycatterick5148
@pennycatterick5148 8 ай бұрын
I applaud you Eddie for such a considered assessment. The time you've taken to present rational arguments is there for us all to see. Now,...on your proposition, I love your idea of a new stadium being modeled on a Yorkshire pudding,...being a fan of that delicacy it would appeal to me. Nevertheless, I believe simplicity of solution/outcome will most likely be the priority for NUFC;...probably around the 70-75k capacity mark; because that will be the most economical. I also wonder if the news that the Halls of Residence on Castle Leazes are being re-built presents an opportunity for a collaboration. So,...based on your wonderful information, I'd paint this picture, a new stadium on Castle Leazes, St James sustained until the new build is complete, then replaced with parkland in front of Leazes terrace. I think this approach brings sooooooooooooo many benefits for all agencies. I also believe Leazes park will be refurbished as part of the new stadium build. We are United PennyXxx
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Hi Penny, thank you for the kind words again 🙏👊🏻 Unfortunately there are a few flaws you’ve missed with your suggestion on this one, but I won’t labour it in here 😅
@claire6186
@claire6186 8 ай бұрын
Hi Eddy! I live right next to the Town Moor and Leazes Park and am very interested in their protection. However, I think snipping a bit off the park at the Leazes end, as you suggest here, is by far the most sensible option. It could really increase the stadium and revenue by just those few hundred metres jutting into the Town Moor, it wouldnt ruin the Victorian park or Leazes Terrace, and would retain the incredible and famous legacy (and atmosphere) of the current venue which is in a golden spot for football, for the city, fans and visitors alike. I dont see why we need a stadium of the size of cities like London and Manchester, when Newcastle is a small, compact city. 62,000 capacity would be ideal, plus there's also the option of Safe Standing which could also increase capacity. This is the ideal option! Thanks for researching all the other options, and all your great work! 👍
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Claire 🙏
@davymedd753
@davymedd753 8 ай бұрын
Another good one Eddy, thanks for your insights and hard work
@MarkWeir-cr5tk
@MarkWeir-cr5tk 8 ай бұрын
An incredible series of videos that are newsworthy and of a very high standard. Lucky we have you Eddy and some famous journalists are not comparable when work compared. Totally concur with your summary, as well.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Mark 🙏👊🏻
@fenham
@fenham 8 ай бұрын
Whether your ideas turn out to be right or wrong many thanks for presenting them. It’s been an interesting series and I appreciate the work you’ve done to present these videos.. #HTL
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
👊🏻👍🏻
@davidharrison6321
@davidharrison6321 8 ай бұрын
I found this video through a comment on a The Mag article. Absolutely first class, the best discussion I've seen yet on this subject.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you David 🙏👊🏻
@jpmtlhead39
@jpmtlhead39 7 ай бұрын
Ive did Live and Work in the UK for 14 years( i return to my country in 2016) ,and as an Die Hard Football Fan while my staying in the UK i tried to at least to see one match of the most Famous Football Teams in the UK. And with some "sacrifices" i did manage to do that,and honestly from every Stadiums i visited the ones that i like and impressed me the most,are the Wembley and St James' Park. St James' Park in my personal opinion overall as more conditions than Anfield, Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge.
@sand12496
@sand12496 8 ай бұрын
Great video again Eddie always make lot sense & love how you do research before making the videos
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Sandy 🙏
@TheBulbiis
@TheBulbiis 2 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed your video , very informative and interesting. Only time will tell what will happen . Totally agree we are falling behind in regards to the facilities and the matchday off the pitch experience. 👍
@Halfirishdan
@Halfirishdan 7 ай бұрын
From a fan of another club, that was a very interesting video. I always thought that you’d bring up the four stands to the same height (which would look amazing having been to St James’ in the away end myself), but never realised that those buildings needing to be knocked down were listed. Good work sir 👍
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 7 ай бұрын
That’s appreciated thank you 🫡
@centurion8446
@centurion8446 8 ай бұрын
Another issue is moving it "downwards" aka westwards and even northwards into Leazes, if the road can be altered in conjunction with the council we can expand both Eastern and Gallowgate stand while re-doing main and Leazes stand with larger concourses and facilities etc while not obstructing light or parkland too much
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
There’ll be no encroachment of the road bud and there’s actually no need to 👍🏻
@michaeljp9605
@michaeljp9605 8 ай бұрын
Great work Eddie, I totally agree a rebuild is without doubt the best option, but won’t be without some pain while being built. But a rebuild might not take so long bearing in mind the foundations are already in place
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
I agree ☝️
@deanharding740
@deanharding740 8 ай бұрын
The stadium of light has a very low visual profile but the pitch is well below ground level which allows seats to start at a lower level so I’m guessing that’s always an option if you can’t go up more you can possibly go down to create capacity.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
In order to go down, trigonometry suggests there’s a need to spread out. We don’t really have that luxury
@QuotidianStupidity
@QuotidianStupidity 7 ай бұрын
Spurs fan but been interested in St James' park rebuild since I used to fill in the two smaller stands playing LMA on the Playstation! Really hope you guys get a final result you can be proud of, just like the Everton stadium. It's a good time for English football.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 7 ай бұрын
Cheers bud 👊🏻👍🏻
@WOLFIE-96B-UK
@WOLFIE-96B-UK 8 ай бұрын
Great video Eddie! I've followed NUFC for nearly 60 years, from standing in the Popular Side with my Dad up to the present day. For me, SJP is NUFC and long may be so!
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
👊🏻👍🏻
@alexnowis2468
@alexnowis2468 8 ай бұрын
Hey Eddie, long term viewer here when focusing on NUFC & specifically stadium related topics. It pains me to say this, but I think you are right, all the other options just arent realistic. If they do rebuild SJP, it would be fantastic to keep it in the city centre location, i'd be really curious to see what that would look like. Other examples (Spurs, Real Madrid) prove it can be done, but I don't think they had the space challenges that SJP does. Thank you for your time, research & dedication to this!
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Cheers Alex 🙏👊🏻
@vordman
@vordman 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting and well-researched video. I'm totally with you on the Leazes Terrace, to even think about moving that beautiful structure is madness. Apparently the interiors are just as impressive. A football stadium is just steel and concrete, knock it down and shift it a thirty yards.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Cheers bud 👊🏻👍🏻 Actually the interior is quite ordinary. I was shown inside around 18 months ago 😅 it’s the Facade that gives it its Grade 1 listing. Needless to say, that building is going nowhere.
@ahermens
@ahermens 8 ай бұрын
Top fella. I really hope St James Park is rebuilt. One of my best memories going there as a young buck!
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
It will I’m sure 👌
@ahermens
@ahermens 8 ай бұрын
@@TynesideLife I just think Newcastle hopefully look at Spurs and how a rebuild at the same location can really work. Im a Spurs supporter, I think for £££ may be Newcastle can look at a roof cover for events outside football?
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
@@ahermens I agree ☝️
@luisaviles455
@luisaviles455 Ай бұрын
I think st James park has a unique look. I love the contrast between the small stands right next to the larger stands, almost surreal. And we have some badass stadiums here in america, but I love st James look
@timtaylor953
@timtaylor953 8 ай бұрын
Great video Eddy, loved the series. Really looking forward to see what you cover next away from Nufc .
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Cheers Tim 👊🏻👍🏻
@Chairmakersfilms
@Chairmakersfilms 8 ай бұрын
One thing not considered as part of a rebuild of the existing site, is to lower the pitch level to below the existing level it sits at. This would enable a newly built East stand (Leazes) side to not impose on the beautiful terrace while increasing capacity. Overall the stadium could be larger, but be less dominating on the urban environment, it could be made to blend in better with that magnificent park as well. Currently its a bit of an eye sore that totally overshadows its surrounding area. Manchester Citys' Etihad is an example of a stadium that increased its capacity from when it was built for the Commonwealth games, by removing the athletics track, digging down, and building a lower terrace which made it into the football stadium it is today.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
It has been suggested many times. Something you haven’t considered with a potential lowering of the pitch though, is that trigonometry suggests that when you dig down, you need to spread out. Angles…That’s a luxury we don’t have.
@Chairmakersfilms
@Chairmakersfilms 8 ай бұрын
@@TynesideLife 14.38 mins you mention about 20-30 metres spare land, this from aerial pics ive looked at is currently used as the car park, and media parking for broadcast lorries. Currently the pitch follows the line of Leazes terrace. If we consider demolition of stadium. The pitch could be reoriented to make better use of this space. This is how i would envision an incorporation of a lowered pitch level being possible. I appreciate that as things are now it would not work. Also taking into account the design of the existing giant stands such as the Leazes end and the Milburn stand, they are quite wasteful of space in that they have a very large lower tier. A new build would probably have many tiers which would enable a smaller footpriint in the available space. Tottenhams stadium sits on limited space (though slightly bigger area then Newcastle) and has 5 tiers down the side lines, 3 of which are for the much valued prawn cocktail brigade.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Now we’re having a better conversation 👍🏻 I think I said a move of around 30-40m which would take us into Leazes Park around 20m? Even a stadium move/stretch of 30-40m would mean we still wouldn’t be able to move any noticeable distance from Leazes Tce, meaning a dig down still may still present the same angle issues. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Albeit the stadium would be a little more flush with it. One of the biggest ways to generate higher revenue is to explore better concourse facilities, corporate areas and hospitality. This would likely mean a stadium footprint that would still be larger than our current size which is around 40m thinner than Spurs snd a little shorter. This could be countered by building it steeper 👍🏻 At least we’re on the same wavelength now and can see great potential for a world class stadium. I’m certain Populus are already have architect drawing up the plans for the next stage 👊🏻
@Freddieduda
@Freddieduda 7 ай бұрын
The optimise v maximize capacity part of the video was very well explained by you Eddie 👍I do think whatever happens in the future regarding the stadium they are interesting times ahead for the Newcastle supporters.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 7 ай бұрын
Thank you 👊🏻👍🏻
@shauncarey9861
@shauncarey9861 8 ай бұрын
Good to see you back Eddy.
@jonny177
@jonny177 8 ай бұрын
Great informative series Eddie. Cheers for putting all the time and leg work in with the research to give us a better idea of what the actual crack is. So much of the stuff that comes out elsewhere seems to be heresay that is repeated so many times that it becomes valid somehow. It's nice to hear some proper well researched info.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Jonny ☝️🙏👊🏻
@garyley4270
@garyley4270 8 ай бұрын
Well Eddy, this is a really good video, and after watching believe that you are spot on. Good to get a well thought out video, with so much detail. This has been a fascinating series of videos. I guess for whatever reason in my head I had been hoping for a new stadium, nearby. But the points you make and reasons make me see that a rebuild is the best option. I had imagined an 80000 new stadium was the best option. But I guess it's making best use of what's there, optimising things and having first class facilities that will serve the cub best.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Gary. Not that I’m an expert but there are too many people out there throwing around ill thought out supposition, which then become curiously valid over time.
@leeshearer998
@leeshearer998 8 ай бұрын
Excellent series Eddie. Well researched and very plausible and likely outcome
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Lee 🙏👊🏻
@howardgibson6676
@howardgibson6676 8 ай бұрын
Great video series mate. Think you're definitely on the mark with your idea. Shame to see the old Cathedral go but we must now look to the future. Onwards and upwards to brighter times
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Cheers bud 👊🏻👍🏻 I would add that our ‘old cathedral’ is only just over two decades old
@howardgibson6676
@howardgibson6676 8 ай бұрын
@@TynesideLife only use the "old cathedral" as a term of endearment lol. It's all the grandson has known and he's not happy about us moving/changing it lol. I'll never forget his words when we finally managed to get tickets, he looked at me as we took our seats and said "grandad, it's good to be back"
@christopherkerrigan9225
@christopherkerrigan9225 8 ай бұрын
Another great watch now I believe we are staying for a while.CHEERS EDDIE
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Forever Christopher 👊🏻👍🏻
@dannytilley4878
@dannytilley4878 8 ай бұрын
As a non newcastle fan I love this channel and by looking in comments I'm not alone.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Danny 👊🏻👍🏻
@Nathan-vw9du
@Nathan-vw9du 8 ай бұрын
Love your content Eddie, helps the hours go by at sea also :)
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Just don’t get sick 🤢 😅
@rogerjohnstone8959
@rogerjohnstone8959 8 ай бұрын
Eddy, Once again you have produced a professional and comprehensive series of videos. You research and analyse all aspects and deliver your unbiased, balanced views with aplomb. Keep up the great work and, I am sure, we are all eager to see the next series. Roger NZ
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you again Roger 🙏👍🏻
@DawnGraham-k5z
@DawnGraham-k5z 8 ай бұрын
You’re the wisest man with black and white blood! 🎉
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Haha! Thank you Dawn
@billrailton712
@billrailton712 8 ай бұрын
Only thing I have seen or heard that makes any sense! 👍
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Cheers Bill 🙏👊🏻
@ne48largekid17
@ne48largekid17 7 ай бұрын
world class stadium this, world class facilities that i think your videos are world class mate i could watch them for hours and hours 🤜
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 7 ай бұрын
Cheers bud ☝️👊🏻👍🏻
@tameracingdriver
@tameracingdriver 8 ай бұрын
That's a very interesting theory, it's starting to look like we are going to stay where we are, despite most fans that I've seen anecdotally on social media seeming to come around to the idea of a new one. Given all of the facts you've presented, this would seem to be a strong option. We already have the land. The question is how do you build it. I'd guess it would be done in stages, much like in fact the original redevelopment from 1992-2001. Good video Eddie, enjoyed it!
@charliemckeever3192
@charliemckeever3192 8 ай бұрын
That's a brilliant informative video most likely the only option TBH to improve that capacity and quality of st James park eddy 👍👍👍
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Charlie 👊🏻👍🏻
@charliemckeever3192
@charliemckeever3192 8 ай бұрын
@@TynesideLife yeah definitely 👍👍 luck forward to the next 1nz...
@cougardeveronvale6701
@cougardeveronvale6701 8 ай бұрын
Best one of all the Relocation/Rebuild series Eddie 🎉
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you sir 🫡
@slippy1404
@slippy1404 7 ай бұрын
Enjoyed watching this. I was always a fan of Sir John Halls vision that you covered. What I don’t understand is why clubs don’t dig down, placing the pitch & a tier or two completely underground level. It would solve the issues externally & im sure lots of environmental benefits of heating via underground piping etc.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 7 ай бұрын
Hi mate, digging down means spreading out (angles and trigonometry). It wouldn’t work within our tight footprint.
@nrg4141
@nrg4141 8 ай бұрын
Great video Eddie. Love it as always. I do think the fact the student blocks are getting pulled down is something that could twist and shape things further. Could they rebuild elsewhere? Could the right offer tempt the MOD to move elsewhere too? All of a sudden you're maybe loooking at being able to build right up into that area - and not touching Leazes Park at all. Maybe I'm dreaming, but it's interesting there's already plans to demolish the Castle Leazes student blocks. Those replacement buildings could be built anywhere... Still, could absolutely see an Aviva stle stadium on the same footprint. Could it even go out over the main road there with the road running under? Could be incredible. Also, pleased you called out the fact that in comparison to truly world class stadiums the facilities at St James' are crap. For some reason people think the owners won't be considering how to maintain or intensify atmosphere in the stadium. For sure, they'll be already consulting with acoustic specialists to make sure anything new is even louder than St James'. Why moe clubs don't ensure that with new stadiums is beyond me.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
These projects take years to plan and develop and those blocks have been there since 1969. Work starts this summer and will take 3-4 years to complete. Developments like this can’t just turn on a dime and be transferred somewhere else bud. They will definitely go ahead. I’ve enclosed a copy of the planned proposals in the video description if you’d like to understand more. Also note that NUFC aren’t currently looking at this land and even if they were to in the future, it would take a considerable amount of time to plan and gain the necessary permissions. This would likely be 2-3 years if they started next week. Fantasy world I’m afraid bud
@nrg4141
@nrg4141 8 ай бұрын
​@@TynesideLifeoh I get that, and totally agree. Appreciate it's fantasy land. But if the club decided this summer to absolutely go for it, and throw money at the Uni / MOD for relocation, then there's technically nothing stopping either relocating. Will it happen. Almost certainly not. But ... when you look at the costs, time frames, and complexities of a total rebuild on the current footprint - where land remains limited, and we'd have to find a new home for multiple seasons ... I'd back them to continue to explore Castle Leazes in one way or another. And as I said, if those blocks are getting pulled down anyway ... they could theoretically at least, be built anywhere else if the right offer came in. Will that happen. Massively doubtful. But in my mind, an distinct outside possibility.
@keithsaint8829
@keithsaint8829 8 ай бұрын
Great research as always I wouldn’t go anywhere else for information on the ground so thanks for the work you do. Very much appreciated
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
🙏👊🏻
@scottcarmichael4751
@scottcarmichael4751 Ай бұрын
Excellent video and content eddie well done😂👍
@1702PK
@1702PK 8 ай бұрын
A lot of time and effort put into this Eddie. Excellent work and hats off to you.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Peter 🙏👊🏻
@PHDiaz-vv7yo
@PHDiaz-vv7yo 8 ай бұрын
What a great and considered video. I’m a proper stadium geek especially after my beloved Spurs did the necessary and currently watching and hoping my local at Luton break ground at Power Court. It is about that sweet spot with capacity and bringing in revenue. I’ve never been to SJP but there is a vibe on the 21st century fan experience vs what I first visited at the old WHL and the stench of the urinals in the bastardised Shelf. Taking my sons to their first match at the Lane next week so I’ll be intrigued to gauge their experience especially as they’ve visited The Kenny a couple of times (and that’s as old school as you can get)
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing bud 🙏👊🏻👍🏻
@williamsmith1632
@williamsmith1632 8 ай бұрын
Good video. Last week I heard someone put forth a possible way a rebuild might take place. When they break ground on the new training ground, they want to put up a stadium to hold about 30,000 for the women and academy teams to play. The plan would be to tear down SJP and rebuild basically on the existing footprint. The team would play at the training ground stadium on a temporary basis until the new SJP is up and running.
@shealey9763
@shealey9763 8 ай бұрын
Eddy, complete sense as always. I think you're probably right, but... keep the slope!
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
👊🏻😅
@northernengland
@northernengland 6 күн бұрын
I don't like football since the 70's but if so many people want to watch it, it will benefit all to have a larger stadium for the fans and the city's economy, I can't believe how nice Newcastle has become, it's the best city in the UK
@SilverbackMattG
@SilverbackMattG 7 ай бұрын
Class Eddie just watched your Byker wall video as well on the way to work really interesting learning about the city through your videos Keep up the good work mate Big fan
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 7 ай бұрын
Cheers Matt 👊🏻👍🏻
@DraelectricalsUk
@DraelectricalsUk 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant video, agree completely. Finally someone talking sense!
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
🙏👊🏻
@Magpie74
@Magpie74 8 ай бұрын
Well, I dont think you could have made that any clearer! Appreciate the work and research you put in to bring honest and constructive information, even when it's not always good news.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Andy 🙏👍🏻 I just report on what I believe are the facts 😅
@Magpie74
@Magpie74 8 ай бұрын
​@@TynesideLifeyw
@D.R.Carpentry
@D.R.Carpentry 7 ай бұрын
Class video mate.. 100% spot on with everything you say and felt the same myself throughout the paper talk of plans etc. knock down rebuild seems the only option tbh but relocate for a couple of seasons to anywhere near available size we need wouldn’t be possible
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 7 ай бұрын
☝️👊🏻👍🏻
@andrewbotto6802
@andrewbotto6802 8 ай бұрын
As usual great video. Food for thought
@colinshield2769
@colinshield2769 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Eddie for great and informative video.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 7 ай бұрын
👊🏻👍🏻
@laikatravels
@laikatravels 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like you’ve nailed it. Only time will tell. Be good if the club would let us know what they’re thinking. Be good to see plans for the fan zone as well.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
You can see the plans for the fanzone online bud. The club have told us there’s a feasibility study going on, they’re not going to give us a running commentary and tell us what they’re thinking 😅
@RitaFarrow
@RitaFarrow 8 ай бұрын
eddie, again great content,all i will say is, watch this space, and get ready to go [ forward that is ] cheers
@AlanBrownPhotography
@AlanBrownPhotography 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Eddy. I always enjoy hearing your educated perspective.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Alan but who said I was educated 😅
@TynCan
@TynCan 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Eddie very comprehensive as always!
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Cheers Mike 👊🏻👍🏻
@pauldodds8920
@pauldodds8920 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video and I’m 100% sure you are correct Eddy. I’ve been saying for a long time that this would be the preferred and only option
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
☝️👊🏻👍🏻
@pauldodds8920
@pauldodds8920 8 ай бұрын
Going on Eales’ experience, I just wonder if they’ll explore putting a retractable roof on the stadium?
@terrybutler1096
@terrybutler1096 8 ай бұрын
Excellent Eddy.. Another great presentation. I hope I'm still around to see the phoenix SJP arising..
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
🙏👍🏻
@alanjames272
@alanjames272 8 ай бұрын
100% agree, I've said it for a couple of years or so. Move the whole footprint of the stadium up & left a bit so the bottom right is safely away from Leazes Terrace. Another good one Eddie 👍🏴🏳️
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
There’s not enough room to move it any much further away from Leazes Tce due to the shape of Barrack Rd and encroaching too far into Leazes Park. What it does is allow the Gallowgate to be heightened without compromising the land begins it and the metro tunnel
@alanjames272
@alanjames272 8 ай бұрын
Unless they take the stand over Barrrack Road.. However they do it, I still agree with doing what they can where it is. 🏴🏳️👍
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
You can’t take the stand over Barrack Rd Alan as directly on the other side, it is lined with tower blocks. Trust me on this, forget Barrack Rd. 👍🏻
@carlaspinall7418
@carlaspinall7418 8 ай бұрын
Eddy love your videos cause you talk a lot of sense they should just modenise st james park⚫⚪
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Cheers Carl 👍🏻
@andrewrtbaron69
@andrewrtbaron69 8 ай бұрын
Castle Leazes and yes I watched the video. The only reasonable negative was the possible light to the student flats. That can be overcome with use of glass design at that end or perhaps the stadium could be spun through 90 degrees as to that shown in the 90s design. It would be a disaster to stay where we are: knocking it down and rebuild disrupts revenue so that's a no and piecemeal redevelopment does the same and doesn't change the general configuration: low amount of food/corporate/drinks and other income generators.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
That’s not the only problem for the Castle Leazes site Andrew which is covered in video 3 and still remains. Not to mention pointing out the obvious that the club aren’t currently looking at this land in any official capacity
@andrewrtbaron69
@andrewrtbaron69 8 ай бұрын
I doubt they would until the feasibility study on SJP is complete, since the preference is to remain. Once that is done, and the conclusion is that its not feasible to expand/radically change SJP, then we move on to stage #2 @@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
I would disagree with your conclusion Andrew. Stage 2? As I say in the video, I’m not in a position to dismiss Castle Leazes and it is an area of land I was excited about, but the more I’ve researched it, the less likely it has become.
@stuffontyne
@stuffontyne 8 ай бұрын
Great video, sensible options with the conclusion being what we all think ... too many amateur architects saying a 100k stadium is doable in x y or z. Rebuild SJP to 60-65k & keep supply lower than demand . Arsenal Spurs Man City etc all follow this model
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
I love hearing from intelligent viewers 🙏👊🏻
@RitchieForster
@RitchieForster 7 ай бұрын
excellent piece of work & love the 'giant Yorkshire pudding reference. personally, I think it should resemble a stottie cake!
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 7 ай бұрын
Even better? 😃
@kevinsimpson4278
@kevinsimpson4278 8 ай бұрын
Way to go lad, wow going to take years but when it's done I'm sure it's going to be a belter 😮
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Cheers Kevin 👍🏻👊🏻
@adamtaylor7544
@adamtaylor7544 7 ай бұрын
I love watching your videos Eddie keep up the good work 👍
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 7 ай бұрын
Cheers Adam 🙏👊🏻
@Papaonwings
@Papaonwings 8 ай бұрын
Eddie your a legend mate, we will win something soon mate, mark my words, SJP the best stadium in England
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Cheers Ben 👊🏻👍🏻
@philcampbell2249
@philcampbell2249 8 ай бұрын
Great stuff, Eddie. Really informative and insightful, as always.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
👊🏻👍🏻
@peterosullivan9942
@peterosullivan9942 8 ай бұрын
The steepness or 'rake' or the terraces is something every club that builds a new stadium bangs on about. The reality is that the rake is set by the green guide and cannot and will not be exceeded so whatever NUFC do, it won't be having stands steeper than any other clubs that have developed stadia in the last 30 odd years. This is a common and huge misunderstanding that many fans (and dare I say clubs) have. Max rake for a seated stand is 34 degrees which is the same sort of rake used at Bolton, Huddersfield, Middlesbrough, Southampton, Sunderland. Arsenal, Spurs as well as the new stands at Liverpool etc. NUFC will be no different.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
This idea of steep sides at St James’ Park came from Populus, the world leading stadium developers 🤷🏻‍♂️ There wasn’t a suggestion by me to breach stadium rules 😅
@brianwalker3188
@brianwalker3188 8 ай бұрын
Cracking series of videos well presented and researched answers a lot of the questions people talk about in pubs n clubs. Should have moved it over the road When the S&N brewery went . 😊
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Aye, that would have been a good idea 👍🏻
@ENGBriseB
@ENGBriseB 7 ай бұрын
Hopefully in a couple of years time. I will hopefully have an away day back up to St James" Park Newcastle. And hopefully you will get your statdum plans sorted out by then. And for the future of your Club. I've been to around 57 clubs or grounds or so all over the country. I must love my football. Anyway all the best and good luck my friend.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 7 ай бұрын
☝️👊🏻👍🏻
@fizzysausage
@fizzysausage 8 ай бұрын
Great review and opinion based on the facts that you have found. Im one of those that really does not want to relocate. However I think if fan approval was the blocker, this ownership could achieve that. They have a huge amount of good will and to even have the relocation being considered by some fans is a major sign of their backing so I’m not sure I would discount that blocker being overcome just yet. Thanks for the great content as always.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Cheers mate 👍🏻 I should clarify, majority fan approval would need to be sought if they wanted to rebuild outside of the city centre. Running a Newcastle United fan based channel, I’m negligibly certain they wouldn’t get anywhere near that majority approval. Baring in mind, they’ve already done the survey… If that wasn’t enough, our owners are determined to stay at SJP and have enlisted the services of Populus to help them rebuild SJP in its current location. Not to mention point 6 in the video which renders a new stadium in a new location pointless anyway. All in all it’s a fantasy discussion being spread on social media, which ends up becoming somehow valid. I’ve also shown (with evidence) how the only three conceivable city centres locations couldn’t be considered due to complications way beyond their interest, or control.
@1346crecy
@1346crecy 8 ай бұрын
Eddie, I'm a Tottenham supporter and season ticket holder. I think you're right about a complete rebuild as it is by far the best idea and the most logical. I ,personally, still call our stadium " the lane" although it's moved half a pitch length up Tottenham high road. I don't feel like we've moved away from our heritage. The main reason our stadium is now longer is to accommodate the pitch being housed under the South Stand. This ability is a tremendous financial boon to the club, allowing American football, boxing and concerts all to use the stadium. Your point about capacity is also spot on. The facilities bars, restaurants etc. are excellent for a football stadium. We now get to the ground earlier and leave later. In conclusion, I know it shouldn't be about money, but my matchday experience is light years away from what it was in the past. All the best. PS. All our car parking is underneath the stadium . The majority on 2 levels, although it doesn't cover the full footprint of the stadium.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this with her bud. It means I also know I’m on the right tracks 👊🏻👍🏻
@The160879
@The160879 8 ай бұрын
Tottenhams stadium cost an absolute fortune to build and was delayed a few times. Logistically being in London never an easy job and it’s a belter of a stadium you talk about wanting to get to the ground early whereas many Geordies don’t want to as there is many world class pubs within 10 minute walk. And we not only support the club but the city and local economy. Eddies done an amazing amount of research into this and I’d be worried we’re gna go through all this upheavel for about an extra 10,000 seats. I hope I’m just being a bit pessimistic about all this but looks like a lot of work for not a lot of gain.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Hi mate, 10000 extra seats at £1000 per average season ticket (that’s generous) only brings in £10m per year. That buys nobody. Neither does 20000 extra. Seat capacity is not the main driving force for increased commercial revenue. Man Utd are not worth £6bn and us £330m because they get an extra 20,000+ fans in their stadium. There are too many people out there spreading nonsense and are not doing any research. Populus have been brought in for a reason and that’s to find a way to rebuild into a world class stadium (like Spurs). Their capacity is only 62K. Emirates is only 60K. I suspect you skipped point 6 in the video as this covered the optimisation v maximisation topic. 😅
@1346crecy
@1346crecy 8 ай бұрын
@@The160879 Firstly we have a huge waiting list like yourselves for season tickets, I think Eddie hit the nail on the head there. We still go to our old pub, that's were we meet, but instead of leaving the pub half an hour before kick off (arriving ten minutes before the game starts) we get into the stadium about an hour and a half before kick off. There's usually a bit of live music in the stadium ,the beer is good(the stadium has it's own micro brewery)and you don't feel like you're rushing. The local fast food shops all seem to still have queues out their doors. I think a lot of supporters used to just go home after the game now they stay, especially the people with kids. All of that said, I do absolutely take your point about local pubs. The retractable pitch has been a huge money spinner for the club, they've even got go-karting in the underground car park. None of this bothers me as long as that money is invested on the pitch. Anyway I hope all goes well for your club because this FFP is not going away.
@1346crecy
@1346crecy 8 ай бұрын
Well done Eddie you explained the capacity thing much better than I could have. Frank@@TynesideLife
@justinfletcher1882
@justinfletcher1882 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Eddie.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Cheers Justin 👊🏻👍🏻
@justinfletcher1882
@justinfletcher1882 8 ай бұрын
@@TynesideLife you have a real skill in layering the I formation to make the listener / watcher comprehend what's going on until you get to the final and usually logical conclusion. Respect lovely man...
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate that Justin. It takes me a long time to build the video 🙏👊🏻
@davidmadden3517
@davidmadden3517 8 ай бұрын
Very insightful Eddie and whats more based on solid research and fact. I think your right, a rebuild on the current site is the most likely option.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
👊🏻👍🏻
@jonathanburn4388
@jonathanburn4388 8 ай бұрын
i like the way you produce your videos. all other channels just rehash media rubbish you do it properly
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Jonathan 🙏👊🏻
@AJamesRichards-ir7yy
@AJamesRichards-ir7yy 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic assessment- so well researched as always and totally agree with planting the 🗡️ 👍 I’m absolutely sure that that will be the eventual decision and is indisputably the best solution without doubt. Yes, its not going to happen anytime soon but it will be worth waiting for and secure a great future and new heritage/ legacy for the club, fans and city. Thank you Eddie!👏
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Cheers bud 🙏👊🏻
@Toenala
@Toenala 8 ай бұрын
Well laid out sensible fact based arguments there Eddie. Excellent work.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
🙏👊🏻
@normhanson981
@normhanson981 8 ай бұрын
Superb research, thank you , I hope it gets built.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Cheers Norm 🙏👊🏻
@peterhinshelwood8960
@peterhinshelwood8960 Ай бұрын
Very good article.
@jonny5alive7
@jonny5alive7 8 ай бұрын
Really interesting series of videos, but I think we need an additional one. If they go with knocking down St James' and building a new one, the big question is where do the team play during that time? You briefly said move to Gateshead and setup some temporary stands, but it would need to be much more significant than that.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
That was just an idea Jonny. They could also consider a temporary stadium but I did also mention that they may be able to carry out most of the rebuild in stages whilst we still played there. There’s no perfect solution and we should all prepare ourselves for disruption at the end of this decade
@mccoysmedia
@mccoysmedia 8 ай бұрын
Think you’re absolutely spot on, great factual video too 👍🏻
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
🙏👊🏻
@davidwalton8930
@davidwalton8930 8 ай бұрын
Cheers Eddie outstanding information as usual
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
👊🏻👍🏻
@chriswarburtonbrown1566
@chriswarburtonbrown1566 7 ай бұрын
Exceptional video. Unlike other videos on this topic it's high on facts and low on personal opinions, so your conclusions are entirely convincing. One question; is a total rebuild financially viable? Wouldn't a 20% extension of the current one be much cheaper and less risky?
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 7 ай бұрын
Cheers Chris 👊🏻👍🏻 I cover this point at the end of the video, but also in point 6. In addition, NUFC have employed Populous for a reason and it’s definitely not to look at plopping an extension on top of the Gallowgate etc. A new build is clearly more expensive of an outlay but with increased and better standards of executive areas, hospitality and concourse facilities, the club would have greater opportunities to raise commercial revenues away from match day football. As I say, I go into a little more detail in the video 👍🏻
@geordieal
@geordieal 8 ай бұрын
Great vid as always Eddy. I've been looking at all the different options the club has and have come to the same conclusion as you, I think the only way forward is a demolish and rebuild situation. Trying to tack on extra capacity to the current stadium would just delay the inevitable. Too bad we didn't have forward thinking owners when the brewery was demolished...could have easily built a new stadium there, literally right across the road from our current one.
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
☝️👊🏻👍🏻
@alancurry4161
@alancurry4161 8 ай бұрын
Nice one Eddie, another informative insight, well done mate
@TynesideLife
@TynesideLife 8 ай бұрын
Appreciated Alan 🙏👊🏻
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