NUFC To Rewrite Foundation Story After I Challenge FALSE Claim

[@TynesideLife]

“Newcastle United were formed in 1881 as Stanley FC” - Paul Joannou (NUFC Club Historian)

[@pauls2876]

Well done Eddie. About time the east end got more credit for Newcastle history and culture

[@Bru88425]

Brilliant Eddie! Good job! I’d love you to do a little video on Jimi Hendrix’s time in Newcastle when he was bought here by Chas Chandler people say he played here or he busked in Heaton or Tynemouth before heading down to London to form the Jimi Hendrix experience! Please do an investigation

[@CKWINN11]

Yeah I've also heard bits and bobs about this, ive not came across much info about it though. Would certainly be a good video to do along with other rock band members from the North East. Theres actually quite a few that people probably dont realize either came from or spent some time in the north east.

[@harmoniefaerielove]

Top job Eddie,love all the research & content that you have done on this subject. I see lots of my fellow Leeds fans dissasociating with our founder club (Leeds city) founded in 1904 that got kicked out of the league due to naughty stuff 😅 .. They too were based at Elland road . So,we celebrate 1919 as our year of formation ( when we became LUFC) which is both true & false at the same time. True history of clubs & how they arrived to their present day existance is vital in my opinion,no matter what the circumstances were. Loving seeing Helen & your goodself on your foodie days out too. 🥰🙏..

[@peterellis1307]

Spot on Eddie. Here's to the truth being told, cheers 🍻

[@garyley4270]

Really glad you got all this out there, as no one, absolutely no one seemed to know

[@2coinaphrase121]

Brilliant Eddie 👏 can we change the date on our established crest now please

[@MarkWeir-cr5tk]

Love it Eddy, as always on the facts around our history.

[@341METAXA]

Got to say that Paul J is without doubt the most knowledgeable historian of the club. End of!

[@TynesideLife]

Most definitely 👍🏻 He IS the clubs historian. it’s not really in dispute though 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@KaranSahota-vz5mh]

History never lies! Well done Eddie again

[@TynesideLife]

👊🏻👍🏻

[@tomfullard9862]

Thing is Eddie. Do you want the truth, or something beautiful. As the song goes haha

[@derekclacton]

Factual accuracy matters! Well done, Eddy 👍 It all does seem very Newcastle Utd. though - not knowing when you were formed 🙄

[@Grifflaskeepgriffling]

Met Eddie outside of work today Just say what a nice bloke and love the content you’re kicking out 👏🏼

[@TynesideLife]

🫡👊🏻👍🏻

[@geoffrobinson4106]

1892 was a significant year in my life it's the year my Great Grandad was born and he was my father figure and lived until 1989

[@blackadder1966]

So when were the clubs that joined to form NUFC formed? The source, the whole family tree as it were. Ps how difficult is it to get tickets for a home game? I'm planning a trip back to Northumberland in the next year or two. Late in the season, I'm too soft for Uk winter now. From Hexham now Australia.

[@TynesideLife]

Clubs didn’t join to make NUFC mate. That’s what the video is about. It’s all explained. It’s really hard to get a ticket but you’ll need to become a member and details are on the website 👍🏻

[@MichaelTate-m8u]

Cheers Eddy, another great informative video. It makes you wonder why this narrative was put out there in the first place. It sure can't be that it's just an easier story to tell, can it? Any more of this 'putting people right' thing and you'll be wearing a cape! Haha. I do agree though with other comments below that it's about time the east end should get more credit than in the past, even though I come from the west end myself. Your videos are becoming more and more informative and more professional as time goes by and I'm wondering if you have the page where I'd be able to become a patron to help you carry on making them. It's not much but we all know that these times are tough for all. Well done Eddy, keep it up mate.

[@TynesideLife]

That’s appreciated Michael 👊🏻👍🏻 I leave a link to a video at the end of this video which goes into detail as to why there’s a false foundation story. You can consider becoming a channel member for as little as 99p PM if you like and the tab link is on the channel homepage 👊🏻👍🏻

[@MichaelTate-m8u]

Now a channel member Eddy. It's not so much about the discounts, or any other offers when I think about it, It is genuinely because I want your videos to carry on. £4.99 a month is well worth just that to me.! Looking forward to next video. If you have an e mail address I'd like to e mail you with my real name as the one that is shown is not that. As you can tell I'm an absolute dinosaur with computers lol.

[@TynesideLife]

🙏👊🏻👍🏻 thank you It’s [e-mail]

[@Aaron_French]

So does it call into question the validity of 'United' in our name a little? As it's not actually 2 clubs merging.

[@TynesideLife]

They called the club ‘United’ as a way for all fans in Newcastle to support the renamed Newcastle East End. Baring in mind that Newcastle West End had collapsed and one half of the city weren’t East End fans

[@Aaron_French]

@TynesideLife Perfect thanks Eddy. Love the channel.

[@mic.kelly86]

Who what happened with Newcastle Stanley? You said they were formed but nothing else.. not sure where they come into this.. Thanks for vid

[@TynesideLife]

You’ve obviously skipped through the video. It is spelt out about midway. I also invite viewers to watch the comprehensive video I did a few months back on the topic. Link is sat the end of the video 👍🏻

[@mic.kelly86]

@TynesideLife 3 of us just sat and watched full thing lol. Get the east end bit etc, and west went bust. Just didn't catch Stanley!

[@mic.kelly86]

@@TynesideLife will follow the link

[@joeillingworth6361]

Stanley fc changed their name to East End fc in October 1882

[@gazmo71]

Excellent as ever Eddie, great to see your fighting the good fight on this one. Bizarre how the club continue with the 1892 narrative but suppose they are too far down the rabbit hole now. We have Hall/Shepherd to blame for that just seems a shame that our true history is not known to the majority of our fanbase but your videos are at least educating those who were unaware. Keep up the good work

[@TynesideLife]

👊🏻👍🏻

[@babyshoe5653]

Finally truth prevails, well done for bringing this to the attention of the owners and especialy to Paul for all his research into newspaper clippings etc.

[@100PCTMAGS]

i've knew this for years eddy mate that we were founded in 1881 paul joannou used to talk about newcastle united's history on the old vhs tape's back in the 90's / early 2000's you can see him talking about it on the old newcastle united history vhs or dvd

[@TynesideLife]

I know 👍🏻 I cover this on the video. It was time to take real action when the false foundation story was on the brand new website under our new owners

[@100PCTMAGS]

@@TynesideLife fair point mate it’s probably not wor owners faults probably someone that has miss lead them with there version of wor history easily fixed just by them updating the site which there clearly doing great video though all the same mate 👍🏻

[@TynesideLife]

@@100PCTMAGS yeah definitely 👍🏻

[@piegadgie]

​@@TynesideLifei thought it was 1882 i have a pennant in the house with 1882 on it.

[@TynesideLife]

@@piegadgie according to Paul Joannou’s research, it’s 1881 bud

[@Flukey_1970]

As always brilliant video really interesting stuff mate love your history videos

[@WilliamGrieves]

Eddie how about a couple of videos. 1, Stanley fc/ Newcastle east end history up to the 1892 move to St James' park and 2: the story of Newcastle West end fc till they went bust in 1892. Be interesting to find out about the east end v West end derbies. There was a time when the 2 Newcastle sides where playing at the same time as the 2 Sunderland sides too. Sunderland and Sunderland albion. Be very interesting if you could weed out the facts of those years. Billy

[@TynesideLife]

Hi William, I did actually do a video covering Stanley FC about a year ago in a bit more detail. Unfortunately, neither this video, nor that one have done great in terms of viewers. I think we have to accept that only a small minority of Newcastle fans are interested in the early history of our club, specifically the false foundation story that’s been peddled. For the amount of work that goes into them, it’s just not worth the effort. I don’t know if you’ve noticed but the history page of the new website has now been down since I released this video. Around 8 weeks or so. I will be doing a follow up video once NUFC have updated the foundation story 👍🏻

[@WilliamGrieves]

@@TynesideLife I'm actually a Sunderland fan but I love the history of the north east and football. My thoughts are the club may be a bit embarrassed they got it wrong. They may well follow you up on it and the historian fella and put it on the website. I'm fairly sure it's been covered on the Internet by a someone from Sunderland who got some info for the Sunderland news papers of the day. The Sunderland antiaqurian centre will hold details of that. I'm fairly sure Sunderland albion dissolved the same year as West end. Probably because football was at a stage when most city's and towns couldn't support 2 clubs. I've seen your Stanley one but I'd love to see a one on west end. They may have been your team had they survived. Best of luck with the extended and true history of the club. Billy

[@petehandrick9408]

Oh no the club will have to change the Box office number now 🤣. Good reporting as ever Eddie . We will love the club whatever year but they should get it right .

[@TynesideLife]

😂

[@jimmycburfield5997]

Good work It’s a brilliant heritage so it’s worth getting it right! Good work.

[@tynestreet4011]

I enjoyed this episode, well done 🙏

[@mariecurly2420]

Go on, Eddie lad, get them to tell the truth. we will see what comes of it, Eddie lad ❤

[@BarkingLondon]

Truth comes out in the end… even if it took over 100 years & yourself to get things in-line! Fair doo’s to yaa. 😎👍🏻

[@CrowTails88]

Newcastle United are still only allowed to spend like it’s still 1892 fk ffp

[@garybailey2587]

Suggest you read a book by Paul Joannou called United the first 100 years, published in 1992. Quote .. With two or even three, significant years to choose from, the Club nearly celebrated their 100th birthday 10 years ago in 1982. I think said author who made quite a bit out of that book is just as complicit.

[@TynesideLife]

I discuss Paul a lot in the video. I’ve also had several conversations with him, so I understand the detail. I haven’t read that particular book so it’s difficult to comment without understanding the context. We know however that for many years Paul has stated in further books that Stanley FC were formed in late 1881, who went onto become Newcastle Inited. 1881 is categorically the year our club was formed. That is subject to researchable and verifiable historical record.

[@NicLuc]

With East end taking over St James Park and even signing ex-West end players and staff, I can understand why the narrative of the merge was born. I'd imagine a lot of news like this wouldve been passed through word of mouth, very natural for facts to be changed that way.

[@TynesideLife]

Unfortunately, the salvaging of some of their assets has been twisted into a full blown club merger and foundation story. I explain how the club have got themselves into a pickle in the video I linked at the end if you get time to watch it 👍🏻

[@CKWINN11]

I live right next to were the old east end pitch used to be, i can see sjp from where i live also and have often daydreamed how sjp would look if it was in east ends old spot. Would love if when they made a new stadium they were to bring it back to the east end, not sure theres a viable site though and kinda used to it being in the City Centre now.

[@TynesideLife]

Where do you live?

[@CKWINN11]

@@TynesideLife i live in Byker next to Brinkburn street sort of in the middle of a few different sites where we played, (1#what was old stanley street, 2#near byker vicarage and 3#near dalton street/union road) all within a few minutes walk of each other. Sorry if you mentioned this as i was getting my daughter sorted for bed as i watched this video, but the same year we changed our name from stanley fc we actually merged with another club called rosewood fc which was the first of a few clubs around the areas merging with 'East end', others being Cheviot and Union Harriors. As you did mention though our name change wasnt recognised until 1885 which is also the first year we won a title (The Northumberland Challenge Cup) A book i remember reading that was interesting which had some great old photographs was 'Pioneers of the North by Paul Joannou' I have always wondered why NUFC shy away from most of the East Ends history and falsely claim of a merge between East and West when in fact the West was completely dissolved and East End simply (once again) changed their name and moved stadiums. Its strange because i do remember Newcastle acknowledging 130 years of history in 2011 when they even released a red kit and a blue kit, a nod to old east end colours, so im not sure when this 1892 narrative actually started. 😂 Sorry for such a long rambling reply to 'where do you live'

[@occiegray]

You have waxa passion for wor Geordie Kingdom keep them in check 🎉

[@marcusoreallly]

Well done, Eddy. Setting the record straight 👍

[@BillyGrieves]

I hope its true. It would be good to hear about those missing years if they can be found. Be also good to hear about West end too. A few 1892 tattoos might need a bit editing too 😂

[@TynesideLife]

Hi Billy, it most definitely is true. I cover those tears in a video which is linked at the end 👍🏻

[@LeeStewart]

They could just copy and paste from the Wikipedia page 😂

[@TynesideLife]

Almost, as the red and white strip has been put there mischievously 😅

[@elcappocanningtownlooknofu597]

Great to finally have the NUFC history nailed down to 1881,,,,after finding oot is was a name change that dictates how Newcastle became UNITED

[@TynesideLife]

☝️👊🏻👍🏻

[@Joe-g4y]

to add a further cat amongst the magpies,i read once that our home was originally called st james park until a rogue typesetter at the chronicle added an apostrophe in the 1900s,to make it as we all call it st james's park.

[@TynesideLife]

Actually, our home is called St James’ Park. There’s no s at the end 😅

[@Geordie-Racer-Luke]

Haha Eddie, fair play fella. I really enjoy the evidence of your research and level of detail.

[@joeillingworth6361]

There was a book published by Paul Joannou and Alan Candlish called Pioneers of the North in 2009, its a cracking read, in chapter 4 it explains the forming of Newcastle United

[@TynesideLife]

Exactly 👍🏻 I mention his books in the video but he does mention it in others, including his latest book about Newcastle West End FC. It’s annoying that the club are trying to tell a different story, purely for marketing purposes

[@joeillingworth6361]

Its the same at Man utd , called Newton Heath from 1878 , but changed their name to Manchester United in 1902 , but officially Man u were formed in 1878 , so why werent Newcastle United not formed in 1881 when Stanley fc were formed , crazy m8

[@TynesideLife]

@@joeillingworth6361 well, hopefully this is the start of NUFC changing the narrative and stop lying. They’ve already took their history page down

[@jackdunphy9032]

If you use the way back machine' you can retrieve deleted web pages... I believe only one player and 2 directors from the folded club joined Newcastle East end.

[@christopherkerrigan9225]

Good facts it’s about time we changed the year to 1881

[@TynesideLife]

☝️👊🏻👍🏻

[@DarthDainese]

They should have gotten you to write it man

[@ih8utoob51]

Is this your doing sir 😂😂😂😂😂

[@hartshaped]

I’m guessing they’ve invested too much into a certain year that it has implications for milestone years they’ve celebrated over the years and the ones they’ve neglected and some of the year related branding they’ve done I guess to the average person they might think who cares, but at the end of the days it’s history and it would be a shame to lose the history of real events and people to a fictional account. Not that I think people will be reading about me in 100 years from now but it would be sad if my existence and achievements were glossed over with a false narrative

[@TynesideLife]

Definitely ☝️👊🏻👍🏻

[@kipp1231]

The west end left the chat 😂

[@sellingtowinselling3876]

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story😂

[@Gillmeister2465]

Hi Eddy there's a Rabbit off with it pal that's my opinion 😊

[@TynesideLife]

You’ll need your elaborate mate

[@jimmyeatsmovies893]

One of the 2 clubs folded!

[@TynesideLife]

Erm, this is discussed in the video

[@David-jn6sw]

More than likely not enough history to fill a page !!...🤪🤪UREDS

[@TynesideLife]

😅

[@David-jn6sw]

@@TynesideLife Couldn't help myself mate !..even though i have been subscribed quite a long time now....i really enjoyed your content of the champions league with newcastle around the city etc..👌👌👌

[@TynesideLife]

@@David-jn6sw cheers Dave 👊🏻👍🏻

[@AlCapo-dw2rw]

Dont tell me this now eddie ive got a 1892 tattoo 😂😂

[@TynesideLife]

Doh 😅

[@IanEckert1977]

Howay Eddie Hope Son... ...My Mate Dave Says It Was 1872... Christian Sex-Pest Newcastle Upon Tyne Viz Magazine Letter-Bollocks Section UK

[@michaelj3282]

Didn't Sir John Hall decide it was 1892 so he could celebrate a century of the club?

[@TynesideLife]

I cover this in my other video linked at the end 👍🏻

[@SirAmnesia]

new website isnt much better than the old one, which i complained about to support. Where's supporter ID too? lol

[@philipscott9238]

Well done Eddie 😂

[@geordierochester5672]

Great work Eddie

[@TynesideLife]

Cheers Geordie 👊🏻👍🏻

[@AS-uv2ue]

Well done

[@Gillmeister2465]

HWTL forever

[@OfficialJBH]

A bit of a stretch labelling it as the club misleading the fans.

[@TynesideLife]

Hardly. To mislead - Verb: cause (someone) to have a wrong idea or impression. They made up a foundation story for marketing purposes 👍🏻

[@OfficialJBH]

@@TynesideLife 🤓

[@shirleyburnham2782]

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[@geordiepegasus7670]

Just leave things alone, all the mercy and books etc that people have are now ruined, just leave it, who cares really ?

[@TynesideLife]

You’re commenting on things you don’t understand. The club historian has been telling this story through his books for years. I’ll pass on your frustrations to him 👍🏻 Sorry to see you leave channel

[@Michael-v1m3q]

Another fantastic video Ed please try and do a video on when jimi hendrix came to Newcastle id love it id love it 😂

[@elcappocanningtownlooknofu597]

It was Stanley FC who were originally formed as a boys cricket club and had the then use of SJP who proposed the merger with East End,,,The ,Heaton Stanington boys cricket club was a part of the emerging Newcastle East End in the late 19nth century also but the historians would have to confirm how the East End came into being,,,,but I believe 1881 to be correct . Stanley FC were not Stanley United,,,,That football Club also born out of the boys cricket clubs played at Murry Park in Stanley DH9 north west Co. Durham.

[@TynesideLife]

There was no proposed merger bud. Stanley FC renamed to Newcastle East End so as not to be confused with the club in Stanley Co Durham. NEE moved to SJP when West End collapsed. NEE changed their name to Newcastle United in December 1892. Newcastle United formed in 1881 as Stanley FC Source: Paul Joannou (Club historian).

[@elcappocanningtownlooknofu597]

@@TynesideLife So where does Heaton come into the story?????

[@TynesideLife]

NEE moved to Chillingham Rd ground after being at Stanley St ground.

[@elcappocanningtownlooknofu597]

I was always absolutly sure there was never a west end,,,,having argued that over many years with a lot of NUFC fans,,,but Iwasnt aware Stanley FC was East End

[@TynesideLife]

West End played at SJP for a few years but collapsed around May 1892. Paul Joannou has just released a book devoted to Newcastle West End 👍🏻