This Mod Makes Electric Conversions Redundant - MGB GT Duratec

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@jacobyoung1671
@jacobyoung1671 Жыл бұрын
This was a great day and I'm glad you liked the car. Your observations about the steering were spot on and I've changed the springs and the geo since as a result. Feels a bit less "sketchy death wagon" more "oh a real car".
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thank for coming down Jacob, really enjoyed driving it!!
@reallynotpc
@reallynotpc Жыл бұрын
Sounds as though you have achieved something really neat there. Well done!
@Lemma01
@Lemma01 Жыл бұрын
Please can we ink "Sketchy Death Waggon"/SDK into the reviewing lexicon, Jack?
@reallynotpc
@reallynotpc Жыл бұрын
@@Lemma01 Seconded!
@postbump4085
@postbump4085 Жыл бұрын
Great job Jacob, thats inspiring me to do a similar upgrade to my B. was going to do the MX5 gearbox conversion, but may as well mate it to the right engine! Wilwood brakes are a good idea too :)
@bobmcl2406
@bobmcl2406 Жыл бұрын
Nice to know that I am not the only person who tries to use Jedi mind control to influence decisions by other drivers! 😁
@ciaranburke3243
@ciaranburke3243 Жыл бұрын
Like that I do it myself 😂
@christophernewman5027
@christophernewman5027 Жыл бұрын
Yep, with a healthy dose of "Come on, come on" 😊
@hornetbrown
@hornetbrown Жыл бұрын
I wish I had .30 caliber gun turret on my truck...that pushes the decision making to the other drivers.
@bucko1001
@bucko1001 Жыл бұрын
Would be a travesty to destroy any classic car with an electric engine. No sound no soul no fun. Would make driving like using your mother’s electric sewing machine
@tonyflorio3269
@tonyflorio3269 Жыл бұрын
My god, even through phone speakers that sounds amazing! Why can't modern cars reproduce this symphony of intake honk, exhaust bark and mechanical whirling? Love it!
@MrAdopado
@MrAdopado Жыл бұрын
Because they have multiple systems designed to meet emissions requirements, efficiency requirements and noise requirements. So if you are happy to compromise on all of these and aren't too worried about the consequences this is what you can get.
@tonyflorio3269
@tonyflorio3269 Жыл бұрын
@@MrAdopado I know -- drive-by noise regs in particular likely have a lot to do with how modern cars sound. The modern performance car approach (loud, popping exhaust and piped in sounds) doesn't do anything for me.
@sbrenx7132
@sbrenx7132 Жыл бұрын
Because of governments
@garyallsopp6369
@garyallsopp6369 Жыл бұрын
​@@sbrenx7132No, because of a@%*holes overdoing it, p#*&ing people off enough to complain to the police, who've got enough to do without answering nuisance calls, so lobby for tighter restrictions.
@BodyDestruction
@BodyDestruction Жыл бұрын
@@garyallsopp6369Not really, if anything it’s easier now to make a car louder with a simple map. Traffic noise and air pollution are health concerns. Adding particulate filters in the exhaust muffles the sound. A turbo (there’s nearly no new NA car on sale) goes on the exhaust, where it quietens it further. The loudest modern city traffic is a 50cc scooter.
@dougknight1720
@dougknight1720 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Got to be one of the best budget upgrades I’ve seen. Definitely a worthwhile alternative.
@LOTPOR0402
@LOTPOR0402 Жыл бұрын
To hell with going electric. An MG B with a modern twin cam , finally caught up with the Italians only 45 years late
@robertwheeler993
@robertwheeler993 Жыл бұрын
And with the MGA twin cam
@georgebettiol8338
@georgebettiol8338 Жыл бұрын
@@robertwheeler993 The MGA twin cam engine was released in 1958, however due to various deficiencies which included fueling via the SUs it was not a successful engine and was (sadly) dropped after the manufacture of circa 2000 examples.
@adrianmonk4440
@adrianmonk4440 Жыл бұрын
@LOTPOR // HILARIOUS.
@crmercer6407
@crmercer6407 Жыл бұрын
The important thing is they're still here
@dreadlysmellybum
@dreadlysmellybum Жыл бұрын
Yea, the Fiat twin cam…. How reliable.
@chriswilliams5498
@chriswilliams5498 Жыл бұрын
I saw a clip of a Triumph stag being electrified. I lost all hope. The very essence of a Stag is the v8 burble. So electrify away. But some cars need to be left as they are.
@cam3002
@cam3002 Жыл бұрын
That is a good conversion. Been thinking of doing something similar. If using a third generation Miata drive train (NC Miata), it comes with the 2.0 engine, an easy torque upgrade that is a direct bolt-on the the transmission is to use either the 2.3 or 2.5 engines from the same family of Ford products that use the Duratec engine (e.g. modern Escort/Fusion).
@larry9580
@larry9580 Жыл бұрын
I'd also use the rest of the Mazda - suspension, brakes, body .... oh, hold on.....
@mrdainase
@mrdainase Жыл бұрын
@@larry9580 You would get the same amount of rust thrown in for free too!
@markjosephbudgieridgard
@markjosephbudgieridgard Жыл бұрын
Wow awesome love it would be even better in my opinion if it was a 1960s sebring MGB roadster replica with the hardtop fitted... But credit to the guy what a great conversion a real wolf in sheep's clothing now you could have some real fun at the lights leaving some modern cars in your wake the drivers would think what the hell is going on 😂👍
@andrewcunningham9256
@andrewcunningham9256 Жыл бұрын
Yup, endless tuning options too. Not dead yet? Time for a turbo!
@andrewbuckley2892
@andrewbuckley2892 Жыл бұрын
Two things... I run a daily driver MGB GT with a second hand 2ltr fully rebuilt engine, ( bought the car with the engine swapped it and resold the car). The engine with very few miles on it was...Iver Searle Power Plus 2000cc engine, reconditioned, lightened flywheel with new ring gear, electronically balanced crankshaft, flywheel and clutch assembly, conrods end to end balanced and pistons balanced. So it cost me a days work and a couple hundred pounds .... the resultant car pulls like a train , and is reasonably original. Also it has been said , at about 1500 miles use per year .... my car can be driven 46 years before it reaches the same amount of carbon as the production of a single new electric car. So how green am I !!
@wearetomorrowspast.5617
@wearetomorrowspast.5617 Жыл бұрын
Always had a soft spot for the BGT. And this looks likes the way forward to be able to keep these beauties on the road for a while. Kudos to Jacob. Cool vid Jeff.
@jacobyoung1671
@jacobyoung1671 Жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you sir.
@giuseppe4909
@giuseppe4909 Жыл бұрын
Keeping them going is not a matter of power plants….it’s a matter of RUST
@brucelamberton8819
@brucelamberton8819 Жыл бұрын
The only thing worse than modern electric cars are classics with an electric conversion.
@PorthLlwyd
@PorthLlwyd Жыл бұрын
Fewer emissions though. Something has to change.
@colino72
@colino72 Жыл бұрын
Depends how much you drive it, though. The motor itself has emissions - potentially more than those of the conventional ICE, and if you don’t do high miles it could be quite a while until it crosses over. Especially comparing an existing repurposed engine with a new electric motor
@rhettcorcoran2879
@rhettcorcoran2879 Жыл бұрын
Excellent conversion, I ran an MGB GT for 13 years, I wish I had thought of this during my ownership.
@adZHARRISON
@adZHARRISON Жыл бұрын
get another
@thefleecer3673
@thefleecer3673 Жыл бұрын
I used to love electric cars but i could never see the logic in converting classics. Now i can't stand electric cars I'm saddened that anyone is doing it
@jonjon5308
@jonjon5308 10 ай бұрын
Blasphemy
@bobl1769
@bobl1769 9 ай бұрын
Posers and the naive do electric cars
@doithimaceabhard7457
@doithimaceabhard7457 8 ай бұрын
I haven't done it so take some solace
@thefleecer3673
@thefleecer3673 8 ай бұрын
@@doithimaceabhard7457 excellent work keep it up! 🤣👍what sort of classic?
@truthboomertruthbomber5125
@truthboomertruthbomber5125 Жыл бұрын
There is absolutely nothing wrong with leaf springs in the back and a lot that is really right ! Having the right spring rate and the dampers to suit will provide excellent handling. As for the front end this car has a bit more negative camber than maybe is ideal for the street and also looks to have a good bit of toe out. This set up is ideal for the race track where you have a lot more slip angle than you are going to have on the street.
@stephenricketts7764
@stephenricketts7764 Жыл бұрын
I have always liked the MGB GT. I think this is a good budget conversion and I agree that an upgraded MG block would be more expensive. You could have put in a V8 but that might not be within the rules of the racing category. On the other hand if you are on a budget the V8 would not be a good choice. I think it sounds good which for me is part of the experience. Well done to Jacob and good luck with his continued work on the car. Thanks Jack for the video.👍👍
@garyallsopp6369
@garyallsopp6369 Жыл бұрын
Nope, not for me - Ford engine in an MG! 😮 Me I'm looking for a accident damaged MG4 to transplant into my daughter's MGF (maybe even twin motor X-Power 😁). For me, most cars' souls are in their chassis - Every car I've ever driven, the engine has been some form of compromise. Sure, some cars are about the engine and you wouldn't want to touch them, but for most it's just the weak point. Then again for 5 years my daily was a Westfield SEi Wide, so maybe my perspective is skewed 😆 Each to their own I suppose, as long as it's reversible. Just spare me the armchair generic 4-cylinder jockeys who don't like EVs because a Nissan Leaf isn't as much fun as a TVR; neither of which they've ever driven. Great videos by the way - keep them coming!
@Yorgos56
@Yorgos56 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant conversion. As someone planning an ev conversion i do have a couple of qualms with the figures used. that 30k+ figure is the price charged by high end shops that fully restore cars and use brand new overly expensive electric components (going off that 110hp figure). Many of these shops use stupidly expensive incredibly underpowered components. If you were to convert the car yourself using used components from a written off electric car, a budget of 5-7.5k is very reasonable. My own conversion I expect to cost approximately 5k and will provide me with a motor that is rated at 250hp but has been tested at up to a bit over 400hp. I'm going to do a little pros and cons list for doing the conversion featured in the video vs a diy electric conversion: Petrol pros- done by professionals (so no work required on your end), lower upfront cost, retain the sound, retain that manual gearbox, lighter car Petrol cons- petrol is only getting more expensive (~1k more expensive per year than electric at current rates), more points of failure, harder to maintain on your own Electric pros- lower lifetime cost (less maintenance + save ~1k on fuel per year), more horsepower in a lighter package, less points of failure, benefits of instant torque Electric cons- can't get work done by professionals, have to do significantly more research, can be a lengthy process, may potentially be heavier than before (mine will be heavier by ~200kg, from 1.3T to 1.5T), less range (mine will have approx 115 miles) TLDR: This petrol conversion is brilliant, will fulfill it's intended purpose, will be incredibly fun, with a low upfront cost, but in the long run doing an ev conversion will be cheaper and more powerful. so If you can sacrifice the sound of a combustion engine and the fun of driving a manual, an electric car will be more powerful and cheaper (in the long run)
@TheKaptainKernow
@TheKaptainKernow Жыл бұрын
Have you gat a link to a parts list or supplier for the conversion bits you plan on using?
@Yorgos56
@Yorgos56 Жыл бұрын
@@TheKaptainKernow my plan is to buy a written off Nissan leaf from copart + the inverter and transmission (which also acts as the motor) from a lexus gs300h. and them Frankenstein the components across. If you want some proper advice, from people significantly smarter and more experienced than me, make a post on the openinverter forum, or r/evconversions, or diyelectriccar.
@nickiemcnichols5397
@nickiemcnichols5397 Жыл бұрын
The comparison is ridiculous. No ICE can compete with batteries.
@miff227
@miff227 7 ай бұрын
some more cons: No garage is insured to have your vehicle in it, no roadside rescue firm should be towing it. You soon wont be able to legally park it within 50m of anyone elses vehicle, house or business especially with a battery from a "written off" vehicle that was likely written off as no repairer can be arsed with trying to get insured to have your vehicle within 50m of anything else on the site.
@max_coast
@max_coast 4 ай бұрын
@@nickiemcnichols5397 Ah see, I'm converting a Nash Statesman to electric and doing it myself, doing it nice, lithium batteries of course, making it compatible with a few public charger varieties and I see the 30k price as entirely reasonable, not to mention the time to wire things up beautifully. Petrol engine swaps can be a pita, but a Duratec to an MX5 transmission is a well supported, documented swap into most old, 4 cylinder things. Plus, you can keep the limited space most of them have and you can stay under the limited GVWR such ancient sheet metal supports, leaving it all for passengers and 1 piece of luggage. Back when I did petrol car projects all the time there's ALWAYS someone saying 'this is as cheap as I did it' and I generally found it an unreasonable pissing contest with not grasp of reality. Doing it yourself, they can both be cheap if you're willing. Paying someone else, I think the petrol will be cheaper, gas spent and all for the amount most people drive a hobby car.
@richsackett3423
@richsackett3423 Жыл бұрын
It's a really good noise. Sounds like a big 4-cyl bike. The exhaust is nice too.
@tedvga
@tedvga Жыл бұрын
Imagine sitting in your garden on a beautiful summer evening, enjoying the sound of birds, like nightingales, then suddenly your peaceful tranquility is ripped apart by one of these (or almost any car) passing by? This is the age of annoying noise almost everywhere, mostly caused by combustion engines. We've all grown up with this and - without too much thinking about it - regard this as "normal" - however, it isn't... People are so accustomed to this that they even like the sounds of their cars and seemingly don't care to those around them... Go electric! You'd still have the sound of tires and wind, but that is a lot better than with combustion engines!
@MrAdopado
@MrAdopado Жыл бұрын
@@tedvga Indeed ... I love a fast car but our weekends nowadays are ruined by noisy bikes and cars out to have some fun. We literally have to halt conversations (inside the house) because of the noise.
@54356776
@54356776 Жыл бұрын
​@@tedvga Most road noise is caused by tyres on the road, not engines. Electric cars are noisier because they are a lot heavier. Electric is also far worse for the environment than ice. Also nothing sounds better than a nice raspy engine. A triumph triple is heaven to my ears.
@nickvledder
@nickvledder Жыл бұрын
A modern, real engine! Definitely better than electric.
@markmcgrath9098
@markmcgrath9098 Жыл бұрын
1:38 you nailed it right there with your comment about the sound. I used to be able tell what car was coming before I saw it by the sound. Engines sounded unique. Even the boring shopping trolley cars.
@championn3c574
@championn3c574 Жыл бұрын
If you don't like classic engines, you don't like classic cars.
@bobmizen1
@bobmizen1 Жыл бұрын
I've always loved the MGB GT and that was fantastic. The way it sounded, the power and the way it swept around 'Jacks Bend' was so smooth. Thanks again Jack for showing such a unique car. Regards, Bob M. South Wales
@mrdainase
@mrdainase Жыл бұрын
I can see a comments war kicking off over who found that bit of road first - Jack or Harry! Obviously it doesn't matter, both have given us all some great videos over time.
@adrianmonk4440
@adrianmonk4440 Жыл бұрын
@@mrdainase // Harry needs a pacemaker tune-up.
@bobmizen1
@bobmizen1 Жыл бұрын
@@mrdainase Harry’s Road, Jack’s Bend 🤗😂
@007JHS
@007JHS Жыл бұрын
Interesting engine set up... being a Ford Duratec I'm guessing it was fuel injected with a computer control... Interested to know how all the electronics and computer were ditched for carbies.... carbies!... just great.
@johnnygeorgopoulos4072
@johnnygeorgopoulos4072 Жыл бұрын
Throttle bodies, not carbs....fuel injection.
@007JHS
@007JHS Жыл бұрын
@@johnnygeorgopoulos4072 Equally great
@jehl1963
@jehl1963 Жыл бұрын
This conversion is also "Greener" than an electric conversion since the carbon impact of a used engine and gearbox is 0 tons of carbon per year, unlike a new electric motor and a new set of batteries.
@tedvga
@tedvga Жыл бұрын
Aren't you forgetting something? E.g. the carbon impact of burning fuel and its production process?
@jehl1963
@jehl1963 Жыл бұрын
@tedvga Not really. It's well documented that electric cars don't pay-off (carbon wise) until ~100k miles have been put on the vehicle. A conversion is no different than a new car in that regard.
@lewis72
@lewis72 Жыл бұрын
Can't see the point of electrifying a classic. The cost, energy & materials involved will unlikely be offset by the lower CO2 of the Sunday drives to the local pub.
@skydog7544
@skydog7544 Жыл бұрын
Should also point out that with engine swaps you lose the MOT and tax exemption as well as historic vehicle status so have to pay the ULEZ charge
@ciaranburke3243
@ciaranburke3243 Жыл бұрын
Another way to screw people 😡
@stephenboitoult8774
@stephenboitoult8774 Жыл бұрын
This is NOT TRUE! So long as you keep the car within the DVLA's notoroius "8 point rule" you keep historic status, tax exemption and ULEZ exemption too. You can change the engine, gearbox and axles and still stay within the regs. You do still need to get it MOT'd, but I would and do on any standard classics I happen to own anyway, as well as the 2 restomods. It's not a high price to pay!
@veritasvincit2745
@veritasvincit2745 Жыл бұрын
Disregard the ULEZ charge. Just don't pay like the television licence. Don't engage and don't enter into a contract by acknowledgement of it.
@RedLP5000S
@RedLP5000S Жыл бұрын
Love that MGB. I'm so tired of seeing countless MX-5s. Those are a dime a dozen. The MGB has such classic lines and is immediately recognizable. Great job Jacob.
@petergraham9267
@petergraham9267 Жыл бұрын
🥲about the MX5. They are a "dime a dozen" for very good reason, and even here, he's using the MX5 gear box and driver's seat! . That being said, I'own an MX5 now (hence my bias 😜) but have also owned an MGB, and that engine sound is epic!! I also LOVE this conversion rather than an EV 👍👍👍
@henrype4315
@henrype4315 Жыл бұрын
Dime a dozen??? I’ll take three dozen. I only have four of them and need some more.
@bzilla-d4i
@bzilla-d4i Жыл бұрын
Wow, now this is an excellent conversion. Props to the man
@richardjones7386
@richardjones7386 Жыл бұрын
Hoyle Engineering sell an IRS that does away with leaf springs and allows for a bigger diff and rear disc brakes.. pick a Mazda power plant or BMW 2 litre and the recipe is a good one. Lots of fun to be had.
@Jonoponomono
@Jonoponomono Жыл бұрын
I love it. There is nothing like the involvement of shifting gears and working with the engine and transmission. Like you said, the car has a soul. I have both electric and gas powered cars and as wonderful as the electric car is in so many ways, it is a cold mistress. My TVR, Caterham's and MX-5's have so much more grasp on my heart despite the fact they are nothing like as good as the Jaguar.
@davidstuart4915
@davidstuart4915 9 ай бұрын
2 ratios + say, 3 levels of energy recovery - effectively letting u change down several 'gears' approaching a bend and ability to shift up once during acceleration is both doable and desirable?
@daniellee9015
@daniellee9015 Жыл бұрын
Absaloutly brilliant video jack ❤👍what a beautiful car brilliant
@malcolmlane-ley2044
@malcolmlane-ley2044 Жыл бұрын
I bought an MGB GT as a project and it thankfully has the upgraded brakes and suspension already done which is a good stating point. I believe people can be a bit 'sniffy' about unusual engine transplants tin the MGB thus when you come to sell the car the resale price would be negatively impacted. The route I have investigated is the V8 from a Rover SD1along with it's 5 speed gearbox, this will give you about 170 hp but way more torque than the Duratec and has the benefit of not being so frowned upon as there was a factory version with a Rover V8 albeit with only 137 hp, I think the lazy power delivery and sound also suits the car better and it would likely be cheaper to do. It's a personal choice of course and as an alternative putting an R1 or Hayabusa lump in there would give a phenomenal power to weight ratio but not a very relaxed drive.
@johnwalker283
@johnwalker283 Жыл бұрын
Yes,and twice the fuel consumption.
@johnwalker283
@johnwalker283 Жыл бұрын
Yes,and twice the fuel consumption.
@68404
@68404 Жыл бұрын
And twice the comments apparently@@johnwalker283
@David-tt2mt
@David-tt2mt Жыл бұрын
Can't allow the ICE to be forced off the road by the unelected "controllers".
@matthewjenkins1161
@matthewjenkins1161 Жыл бұрын
Biggest cost of an EV conversion is usually the batteries, which are second hand to start with. 10 years down the line if lucky and will need replacing again. A well built internal combustion engine used a few weeks each summer in a classic car, would last 50 years plus between rebuilds.
@AaronHendu
@AaronHendu Жыл бұрын
Yep, I have nothing against electric powered vehicles, love them in fact, but if your toy sits for a large part of its ownership, batteries are not a good choice. At least with the current tech.
@richfixescars
@richfixescars Жыл бұрын
Good engines those duratecs. Only think that would worry me is the crash safety. Get hit by an SUV and you'll come off badly. No airbags or anything.
@aboyandhisdog
@aboyandhisdog Жыл бұрын
Jack, what kind of mpg's is he getting for normal driving with this conversion?
@jacobyoung1671
@jacobyoung1671 Жыл бұрын
30-35mpg - probably more like 40mpg if I had efi
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I've driven a couple of MGBs over the years, one very regularly, and in particular the steering has been heavy and ponderous, sapping most of the enjoyment. Good to hear it can be sorted.
@lewis72
@lewis72 Жыл бұрын
Yokohama tyres great in the dry. Terrifyling in the wet, which is why we called them Yokodramas.
@roystonvehicles9129
@roystonvehicles9129 Жыл бұрын
People have always done engine swops, it's not an alternative to an electric conversion, it's an engine swop for increased performance, maybe economy, I'd have thought that at 5k you could tune a b series up pretty good, supercharger (?) good old reliable engine the B series, had loads, we used to go to France in a bgt, 38 mpg and could cruise at 90 (ish) in overdrive, you were very brave in flying around in something with, shall we say undeveloped suspension, can't see how double wishbone front suspension is antiquated. Great video tho, you look like you can drive a bit as well.
@mrdainase
@mrdainase Жыл бұрын
Rear axle location on a MGB is fairly decent, it's those horrid lever arm dampers in standard form that can ruin things. A firm front/softer rear setup is the general rule of thumb, which you can do just by changing the oil in the units (shocks is a better option though), and with decent new bushes all round they drive fine. Can't abide the B Series engine though, that damn lump of iron haunted the business for decades longer than it should.
@john1703
@john1703 Жыл бұрын
After late 1964, with the five bearing crank, it was smoother, albeit still heavy. That engine also was fitted to the Austin/Morris 1800S.
@rjbiker66
@rjbiker66 Жыл бұрын
Was there a parabolic leaf spring upgrade for the mgb?
@mrdainase
@mrdainase Жыл бұрын
@@rjbiker66 Yes you can still get them, and there's also a multi-link rear setup available which from memory is a bolt-on job. If you don't have the cash then just taking the springs off, getting the surface rust off them, a good layer of Hammerite or Hard Hat and then a thin skim of oil/grease between the leaves will make a difference to them. Poly bushes are a good option as well but they do need a smear of copper grease to preventing squeaking.
@mrdainase
@mrdainase Жыл бұрын
@@john1703 The B Series and the Landcrab were made for each other, a bad engine in a bad car.
@Ken_in_the_highlands
@Ken_in_the_highlands Жыл бұрын
Interesting video Jack. Can you clarify the costs, was that parts only or did it include Labour for a garage doing the conversion?
@salmanzh
@salmanzh Жыл бұрын
I'm also keen to know, since it sounds like the 5k was for parts and DIY and the EV conversion costs are from a shop
@neilmarshment2910
@neilmarshment2910 Жыл бұрын
Great review Jack. I agree, electric conversions remove the soul of a classic. Nothing like the sound an feel of a combustion engine - hearing a classic MGBT or Aston whirrrrrr is not the same.
@bernardwarr4187
@bernardwarr4187 Жыл бұрын
Although not a big fan of the BGT’s I have always thought, with a good engine there is no reason why they can be a daily drive. It’s a practical car, easy to handle and hatchback for shopping
@zadokmotorfreight2423
@zadokmotorfreight2423 Жыл бұрын
Agree 💯
@playchimpmakerlabs3678
@playchimpmakerlabs3678 Жыл бұрын
As a student I used to drive mine from nottingham to manchester frequently and in 3-years it never let me down!
@S-Ltd1000
@S-Ltd1000 Жыл бұрын
Basically the powertrain from an mx5.
@fredmacdonald9339
@fredmacdonald9339 Жыл бұрын
i did the same with my first gen crx 2.0 out of a newer accord and a rack of 34 mm mikunis off a kawasaki easily doubled the power and added 50 mph at least of top speed
@pbertelli1961
@pbertelli1961 Жыл бұрын
There should be a law against doing electric conversions on classic cars like these, its just not British! A brilliant, informative and entertaing video, as always!
@black8art
@black8art Жыл бұрын
Removing the old "B series" and putting the MUCH LIGHTER duratec in the engine bay, would improve the balance of the car no end! Having that MX-5 box to "stir", also loses weight, and adds SO MUCH FUN! Even if you decided to go "full leather" inside and all the "mod cons", like electric widows, air-con and posh seats, you'd never have a heavier car than stock! 1960's class, but with 2020's reliability and performance? ...NO BRAINER! (Not sure I could live without the old 1800 long stroke torque and "rasp" though? I wonder if there is a lighter, and maybe a racier version of the "B"? My old "Forza4" virtual car, was bored out to 2.0ltr and lightened and had a sport box and rear end, which made it a REAL weapon on the track!)
@KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland
@KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland Жыл бұрын
Haven't heard you smiling during a road-test for a long time. Well done! The Ford Ecotec engine is brilliant! But on the continent, a VAG 1.8Turbo is probably the more obvious choice.
@stevemawer848
@stevemawer848 Жыл бұрын
One disadvantage of not going electric is that you're depriving the child lithium mining labourers of their income. Some may consider this to be A Good Thing, of course.
@tedvga
@tedvga Жыл бұрын
True, but oil companies make a hell of a mess, especially in corrupted 3rd world countries? oil spills polluting refineries, cancer etc.?
@daos3300
@daos3300 4 ай бұрын
yeah, because all children aspire to work in lithium mines.
@ajay-xjs
@ajay-xjs Жыл бұрын
I really liked this episode, what a smart conversation. I read somewhere that Yamaha had a lot of input into Fords Duratec/Zetec engines so the carbs from an R1 make sense.
@adrianmonk4440
@adrianmonk4440 Жыл бұрын
Yamaha also did the Tarus SHO engine for Ford. That is Special High Output or nickname was Shogan.
@charlesshamseldin9555
@charlesshamseldin9555 Жыл бұрын
Here in the States, all Ford Focuses from 2005-2010 were gifted the lovely little Duratec 2.0L It is a wonderfully revvy little lump that sounds surprisingly good. I have one in my Focus, turbocharged with a GTX2871R, and a Cosworth intake. The car makes 260whp and is really really fun to drive. Keep up the great work Jack!!
@adrianmonk4440
@adrianmonk4440 Жыл бұрын
NICE !
@jase6370
@jase6370 Жыл бұрын
Love this !. Love to see more retro mods
@AaronHendu
@AaronHendu Жыл бұрын
Chev's Ecotec is a decent motor, too, for swaps like this. Ford even had a supercharged version of it.
@davidstuart4915
@davidstuart4915 9 ай бұрын
dont both this and the 5 cly engine have fundamental design flaws that can cause total failure?
@Lemma01
@Lemma01 Жыл бұрын
Let's be honest - never seen a BGT move off the line like that! Strange to say, a fair few Elise owners have ended up with the Duratec - it's capable of fairly high outputs.
@openhighwayproductions
@openhighwayproductions Жыл бұрын
I am in 100% agreement that it is miles smarter to upgrade the powertrain to increase both power and reliability instead of batteries...
@simonmusgrovewethey
@simonmusgrovewethey Жыл бұрын
Having the Mazda gearbox means you don't have that fabulous overdrive unit. Secondly the standard back end slides all over the place so I would make some drastic upgrades before driving it in anger.
@roystonvehicles9129
@roystonvehicles9129 Жыл бұрын
Can't see many people spending 25k on a rusty bgt worth 2k tbh.
@kipsome45
@kipsome45 Жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable as always Jack. I was just left wondering who would consider an EV conversion on an old MG in the first place?
@echo9911
@echo9911 Жыл бұрын
for me personally, I don't see the point in an EV conversion on any classic car. It ruins the car in my opinion
@roland9367
@roland9367 Жыл бұрын
There are lots of classic cars with shit engines. Typically the not sporty ones. Don't sound great, no power and unreliable. They are great for EV conversions. Especially nice when it improves as much to the point people start daily driving the classic car.
@rogerking7258
@rogerking7258 Жыл бұрын
Two of us were driving back from a car show in my Frogeye last week when I mentioned to my mate that I was considering fitting a K-series engine, 5-speed gearbox and disc brakes to make the car more usable. We're both in Motorsport so this would be a DIY project. His reply was a classic - "But I thought you wanted a Frogeye."
@sitaylor9322
@sitaylor9322 Жыл бұрын
Electric cars are not the answer that would give much more fun but as its modified will it still get the free tax and no mot even though I still think it should have to pass a mot or at least a safety test but we will still be able to get fuel till about 2050 so as long as the screws don't get turned to much we can still drive our cars for the for the next 25 years or so I hope
@dan3092
@dan3092 Жыл бұрын
Resto Mod what's not to like a 4 wheel alignment Hunter session will sort the geo it sounds great good mpg and in reality a much smaller carbon print as it's recycling at the end of the day.
@peterh4761
@peterh4761 Жыл бұрын
Again, it will need an MOT forever as it classes as significantly modified. Something to consider as there are issues with non period engined cars registered as historic.
@poldoford
@poldoford Жыл бұрын
Electric motor is good for washing maschine, 2 yo kids toys and for wifes vibrator - not for cars, especially classic
@Andrew-bs1mi
@Andrew-bs1mi Жыл бұрын
My brother has the last year the mg was made and he put a V8 aluminum Rover engine in there with a Muncie 4-speed it'll blow that thing away
@mrdainase
@mrdainase Жыл бұрын
Muncie gearbox? Pretty tough buggers but they whine worse than an Aussie served a warm Fosters.
@georgebettiol8338
@georgebettiol8338 Жыл бұрын
​@@mrdainase Not quite right - the whining begins as soon as they see the Fosters label - irrespeective of beer's temperature.
@georgebettiol8338
@georgebettiol8338 Жыл бұрын
The Muncie M22 (rock crusher) is certainly a robust and reliable transmission, however the same cannont be said about the compromised shift mechanism which was fairly agricultural even when new. It's likely another case of the GM 'bean counters' overiding the more costly but better engineered solution.
@chrishenniker5944
@chrishenniker5944 Жыл бұрын
@@mrdainaseMost Australians are wine drinkers, they don’t drink Foster’s in Australia. As far as lager goes, it’s Victoria Bitter, Carlton or Castlemaine that’s drunk. Cooper’s Sparkling Ale is good.
@mrdainase
@mrdainase Жыл бұрын
@@chrishenniker5944 .... and there's the sound of a joke whistling clear over your head ......
@adrianmonk4440
@adrianmonk4440 Жыл бұрын
People are criticising the level of the car. If the guy is at University, that's amazing. I was So Broke in school.
@danieleregoli812
@danieleregoli812 Жыл бұрын
Electrifying a Classic like a B GT should be a punishable criminal offence.
@mariogrobbler
@mariogrobbler Жыл бұрын
This looks like the same roads Harry Metcalfe, Harry's Garage, uses to review cars.
@Poz100
@Poz100 2 ай бұрын
I’ve seen a number of engine swaps involving bike carbs on KZbin and none of them have fitted air filters. One of the channels then complained of low compression on the front two cylinders, “air filters are for wimps” he said. Maybe he’ll find scoring down the bores and pistons, maybe not. Air filters are cheaper than a rebuild if so.
@jacobyoung1671
@jacobyoung1671 2 ай бұрын
In this case the filters were taken off for the photo..... There's a panel filter the rest of the time.
@marcusott2973
@marcusott2973 Жыл бұрын
I once drove one of those Lotus Elan +2, with Spyder Chassis, Scorpio brakes, Z-tec on throttle bodies, the works. That was so close to being the perfect everyday classic, and I was so close to being able to afford it. 😂😂😂
@eze8970
@eze8970 Жыл бұрын
Great project car, & one far more in keeping with lower budgets. Thanks Jack! 🙏🙏
@Carrera-gp9od
@Carrera-gp9od Жыл бұрын
Definitely the way to go , the electric conversions are abhorrent.
@johnireland1629
@johnireland1629 Жыл бұрын
Always loved the lines of the MGB...and this engine transplant is a great bargain. Thanks for the ride.
@murrieteacher
@murrieteacher Жыл бұрын
I constantly come up against MGB's at our local hillclimb (Mt Cotton) and they give me and my MGTF 160 race preped a good run. I have been tempted a few times but the B series engine always stopped me. I will have to rethink now what I should do. There are some really potent Honda engines around too. Thanks Jack another great video about cars that we can all afford and relate to.
@mrdainase
@mrdainase Жыл бұрын
Bonnet height tends to rule out a good few alternatives. The Busso V6 or Vauxhall Y32SE engines would sound great while throwing you up the road.
@theblackhand6485
@theblackhand6485 Жыл бұрын
Seeing this MGB the tiny Honda 800 cc SS comes in mind. These had chain driven motorcycle engine with a long stroke. Would be nice if NR 27 could make a review about those Honda's.
@timsullivan3921
@timsullivan3921 Жыл бұрын
Interesting engine choice. I have a MGB roadster and am installing a 3.5L Rover V8, which will make for interesting driving, as the rebuilt motor has 250bhp. Being alloy the V8 is a lighter engine than the standard 4 cylinder, which should improve the car's balance.
@davidgerrard8661
@davidgerrard8661 Жыл бұрын
I have a 3.9 in mine. Changing the diff ratio is a must
@timsullivan3921
@timsullivan3921 Жыл бұрын
@@davidgerrard8661 doing the maths 100% agree, I feel a 3.08 is too tall maybe a 3.3 as a 3.7 is not that much different to a 3.9. I also adding a Quaife LSD, Kpnis, Panhard and Tramp Rods to handle the extra power
@edword7195
@edword7195 Жыл бұрын
A great video and enjoyed watching it however it is has little relationship to an electric conversion. you could not drive that in a low emissions zone, you could not charge at home and its not silent and still burning fossile fuel etc. Personally I would probably go for a v8 but people that want electric typically want for the reason above.. It may make a v8 conversion redundant but not even sure about that, would that really be more. When I had my B 20 years ago a V8 conversion could have been had.
@pete540Z
@pete540Z Жыл бұрын
Low emission zones are the spawn of the devil. I'd NEVER consider that as a reason for any auto decision I make.
@stanschloesser6725
@stanschloesser6725 Жыл бұрын
Love to see your giddy reaction on the pulls. Good stuff.
@tolrem
@tolrem Жыл бұрын
When I was at school [in the Dark ages] they used to put Ford Cortina 1600 OHV engines in Morris Minors.Apparently it mated quite well to the existing gearbox if I recall correctly.I remember my dad [who was a mechanic by trade] saying that it was too much power for the Minor to handle!
@1240enzo
@1240enzo Жыл бұрын
Fiat twincams mated to Fiat’s 5spd box was another way of updating the old Morrie.
@philtucker1224
@philtucker1224 Жыл бұрын
Cortina engines were 1500.
@ryanmccormick2150
@ryanmccormick2150 Жыл бұрын
The MGB GT is a great looking car in my opinion, dropping a ford 2.0 engine into it is a fun idea.... Looks like a barral of laughs for not silly money 🤑. Cracking stuff as always Jack buddy 👌....oh almost forgot to say I'm all for internal combustion for as long as possible! Especially on toys like this MGB, the sound of the engine is a lot of the feel and fun in a car like that!
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan.. hope you’re enjoying yours!
@Greebstreebling
@Greebstreebling Жыл бұрын
We took our black MGB GT to northern Spain in 1982. Wherever we parked in a town, there'd be a crowd of folks gathered around it when we returned. They were iconic machines with a fairly gormless engine. I used to catch the Harwell bus from Abingdon in the early seventies and sat on the top deck so I could see into the MG factory yard as we drove past, I never had the money to buy one in those days.
@mrdainase
@mrdainase Жыл бұрын
Probably the best description of the B Series engine ever!
@jassonsw
@jassonsw Жыл бұрын
That's an absolute no brainer. 1/6 of the cost, better range, thousands of more places to re-fuel, way easier to get a mechanic to work on it in future and sounds great.
@stumo114
@stumo114 Жыл бұрын
I put a Vauxhall 2.0 red top in my MGB about 27 years ago, Lumenition throttle bodies, standalone ecu, custom ex manifold, stainless V8 rear exhaust, ford 5 speed box and quaife diff, I helped develop the Willwood 4pot disc brake conversion with Rally Design which worked brilliantly, in conjunction with cooper s cylinders on the rear with uprated shoes.. I also had the coilover front conversion which made getting the right spring rate fairly easy, together with a thicker front ARB, lowered rear springs with anti-tramp bars and spax shocks.
@bastogne315
@bastogne315 Жыл бұрын
Dacia Jogger now comes with a TENT!!
@bastogne315
@bastogne315 Жыл бұрын
A Dacia tent!
@MimicoBungalow
@MimicoBungalow Жыл бұрын
But, Jack...the body is a little bit - um - dinged up...I mean, no issues - we all have small 'fender-benders' - but why, oh why would someone let the sheet metal rust that way under the right headlamp? Also, it seems that the tach isn't working...I know that original Smiths tach is run by a cable - but with a bit of ingenuity...that Duratec should be able to drive an electronic one...either mounted where the original one is - or, just dash-mounted...I agree with you about the 'sanitized sound' - needs a freer exhaust for sure...however, lest I sound too negative - it's a nice swap and seems to be not TOO difficult with fabricated new engine mounts...
@adrianmonk4440
@adrianmonk4440 Жыл бұрын
You redeemed yourself.
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Hey, it’s called the patina look. Those bits are laquered over so they won’t get worse. I quite like it. Also Jacob is a student.. so money is an issue!
@michaelpegasiou4531
@michaelpegasiou4531 Жыл бұрын
Beats electric any day 👍
@astuffedteddy
@astuffedteddy Жыл бұрын
the Harry's garage road 👌
@adrianmonk4440
@adrianmonk4440 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he owns everything.
@barryphillips7327
@barryphillips7327 9 ай бұрын
B series engine is stoneage SO OLD!!
@Laz_Arus
@Laz_Arus Жыл бұрын
In my younger days, I owned a Datsun 2000 Sports, which was a natural alternative for the MGB. The former was a superior car in just about all metrics except the exhaust sound. I do miss the induction sound from a carburetor engine. Modern fuel induction engines, like the one in my ND MX5, just don't have the raw sounds from bygone days.
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Hello old chap!! Hope you’re doing well!
@Laz_Arus
@Laz_Arus Жыл бұрын
@@Number27 Livin' the dream here downunder Jack. 👍 I just wish it was a little warmer. Currently reminds me of an English "summer" 😁
@andresguerin7162
@andresguerin7162 Жыл бұрын
A car person would never go E!
@stijnvandamme76
@stijnvandamme76 Жыл бұрын
Except in many countries engine replacement with more power is banned, or requires individual re-homologation, and the process is ridiculously expensive and convoluted, at least in Belgium it is
@peterduxbury927
@peterduxbury927 Жыл бұрын
I am certain that the Insurance would be invalid, unless you go through the Declaration Process. The whole car has a much higher performance now. If we do anything like that here in Australia, the car must pass severe inspection before it can be road-registered. This could be a downside.
@dennisnichols2411
@dennisnichols2411 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video! You have me wondering how a swap like this might work in my 1959 MGA coupe project. Even though they do differ in construction- the A being body-on-frame and the B a unitary- they share a great deal of bits, as the B had a lot of developed (and undeveloped) components from the A. Here in the States it's easy to get more than one version of Zetec/Duratec (or MXR) and and many MX-5 transmissions. Do keep us posted on his progress and feel free to give more particulars on the conversion as it goes along, please!
@jacobyoung1671
@jacobyoung1671 Жыл бұрын
Hi there - a lot of people seem to use the mk1 mx5 engine and gearbox in the mgb and I've heard of people putting those in MGAs. No reason why this duratec wouldn't fit but I've not measured. Give it a go.
@glock22357
@glock22357 Жыл бұрын
Lots of losers in GB converting their classic roadster to electric? Sad.
@petefroud5308
@petefroud5308 Жыл бұрын
Very nice . My grandad used rag my MGB on a drive .
@blowduke
@blowduke Жыл бұрын
A chap at the weekend had a duratec engine making 240 bhp in his Elise good strong engine
@WTU208
@WTU208 Жыл бұрын
Just put a small block in it.
@bobmcl2406
@bobmcl2406 Жыл бұрын
Very nice restomod conversion. Thise engines are very robust. I think I might have just used the stock EFI with the Duratec, though. It would have made things simpler.
@jacobyoung1671
@jacobyoung1671 Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much. You can get bike throttle bodies which are efi that are only a few hundred more than the carbs I went with. I completely agree with you: in fact it's just about the only regret I have on this conversion. Will upgrade in future.
@MG-Driver
@MG-Driver Жыл бұрын
I put the same engine in my GT back in 2011. Made a fun car a great car, so well done on the conversion. Looks a lot neater than what mine was too.
@jacobyoung1671
@jacobyoung1671 Жыл бұрын
Hey! I have seen your videos before I did the engine swap in the video. Unless I'm mistaken you're the same guy who has the photo next to my school mates Ford T bird? With the r500 engine in the mgb gt?
@MG-Driver
@MG-Driver Жыл бұрын
@@jacobyoung1671 that's the one
@BojanBojovic
@BojanBojovic Жыл бұрын
In 100 years there will be Number 34 saying that if you are a true enthusiast you need to keep the battery and electric motor like in the old days, and skip the modern fusion drive everyone else does. :) I agree the ICE is far more involving, but there are many other things other than engine noise that make a great driving feel, times change, we change. :) I believe extreme puritanism keep us back. :)
@ditzydoo4378
@ditzydoo4378 Жыл бұрын
As a final part of the conversion, would it be possible to make this an LPG Liquid Propane Gas instead of Petrol???
@ragsbiker7316
@ragsbiker7316 Жыл бұрын
Probably but you would need to harden the valve seats and then find somewhere to put the LPG tank
@ditzydoo4378
@ditzydoo4378 Жыл бұрын
@@ragsbiker7316 with the engine swap to the modern Ford Duratec, it should already have hardened seats. but true if the original engine were still used hardened seat for unleaded fuel would be a must. The tank might be a bit of a squeeze, but LPG is far cheaper than petrol any day around my area.
@johntaylor5968
@johntaylor5968 Ай бұрын
Speedo disconnected ?
@lesklower7281
@lesklower7281 Жыл бұрын
What the MGB could have been l am all for engine conversions on british classic as l say how do you make a classic british car reliable and put another motor in it anything and the lovely noise it makes in the interior and you are right Jack EVs have no soul and this MGB has it in bucket loads more engine conversions please
@rjbiker66
@rjbiker66 Жыл бұрын
The exhaust notes sounds like a manic mgb.
@adrianmonk4440
@adrianmonk4440 Жыл бұрын
Me likey !!!
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