How to write 100,000,000,000,000 poems - Numberphile

[@numberphile]

Extra video with some example sonnets: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaLWeWiBlLJsiNU Marcus' books on Amazon: amzn.to/33YbOxS (including Thinking Better: The Art of the Shortcut)

[@thebiggestnerd704]

I want to see the poem using the 1st 7 digits of pi

[@nicktuckwell]

I'm reminded of the short story 'The Poetry Cloud' (or 'Cloud of Poems', depending on the translation) by Cixin Liu.

[@jasonrogers1576]

You don't say "a hundred thousand billion". Who talks like that? You say "a hundred trillion".

[@LiamE69]

Hebe pronounced heeb is an ethnic slur. The plant or Greek goddess is pronounced hee bee. Whoops.

[@thesahil6854]

could you make a video on the order in which a self learner should teach himself math.

[@liamhenderson7367]

If he writes her a sonnet, he loves her If he writes her 100 sonnets, he loves writing sonnets If he writes her 100 000 000 000 000 sonnets, he loves math

[@johnopalko5223]

Back in the 1980s, when Usenet was popular, about twice a year the newsgroups would be inundated with articles that almost made sense, in a bizarre sort of way. The people who didn't know any better would reply and try to argue with them. Those of us who had been through the cycle a few times would say, "Well, it looks like a new crop of undergraduates has just learned about Markov chains."

[@revenevan11]

Is that actually what was causing it? Just undergrads? (And presumably new ones each time?) That's fascinating from a psychology and sociology perspective!

[@johnopalko5223]

@@revenevan11 The masterful instigator of the prank, which was eventually copied by legions of undergrads, was Rob Pike at Bell Labs. See the Wikipedia article on Mark V. Shaney.

[@dhess34]

All that is old is new again.

[@laurendoe168]

I remember going through usenet groups, attempting to filter out spam according to the number of lines a post had. Posts that used the "random word generator" algorithm soon made it obvious this wasn't a reliable filtering mechanism.

[@Tamiss]

And now the internet is 80% gibberish auto generated for SEO and clicks

[@smor729]

This guest as well as everyone else on Numberphile is amazing, but my god how good of an interviewer is Brady. Every single time he asks a question its either the burning one I had, or something I am immediately dying to know the answer to. He just has such a curious mind and an incredible ability to ask his questions in a way that elicit fascinating responses.

[@stuiesmb]

I’ve followed Numberphile and some of Brady’s other stuff for years and I’m always struck by how quick he is to understand things and how insightful his questions are based on that immediate understanding. I’m very glad he’s doing what he does now, but I can’t help but feel the world lost a great journalist when he became a KZbinr

[@Triantalex]

false.

[@adrigax]

As a French native speaker, I’ve known and loved OuLiPo since I was a teenager. Other fields than literature have been inspired by OuLiPo and other Ou-X-Po were then created, like OuBaPo (Ouvroir de Bande dessinée Potentiel) which did an excellent job experimenting how comic strips can be created with mathematical or playful constraints. OuLiPo still exists today and still produces great and/or absurd works. Georges Perec and many others are in fact still members of OuLiPo, because once an author enters the OuLiPo, there is no way for them to quit the club! Each time there is a gathering of OuLiPo, some members are excused for cause of death.

[@henriquedecristo8436]

Actually there is one way to quit the club, although Roubaud assures no one has ever used it haha

[@sandystarr0]

Love the fact that the letter to the diplodocus about the overdue library book is from Keith. (Keith Moore from the Objectivity channel.)

[@iveharzing]

This reminds me of a beautiful poem from the game Outer Wilds! But in that game it's only 4 different lines, which generate 4! = 24 different poems. - "It's always dark" - "In the ancient glade" - "The quiet shade" - "Across old bark" This poem also introduces you to one of the game's core mechanics, where "Quantum" objects move around when you aren't looking, so the lines change order when the poem moves. You find this poem in a glade together with trees which also move around when you aren't looking.

[@Dave-kr1uh]

I love that game. One of the most unique and mind blowing games I've ever played.

[@Julian_H]

Can't think of a better example of science/math inspiring the arts than outer wilds.

[@WestExplainsBest]

Happy Teacher Appreciation Week from across the pond!

[@herculesrockefeller8969]

He wrote 100,000,000,000,000 poems, five of them were worth reading. Fun stuff though! OuLiPo were just doing research, but along litereary, rather than scientific lines; and as Einstein said "If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?"

[@SpriteGuard]

That research is continuing to this day, and it has only gotten more interesting. Kate Compton's Tracery project and Martin O'Leary's Pangur project are both like distant descendants of Queneau's poems. Max Kreminski among others has done some research into a concept called "story sifting" that seeks to reduce that "only five are readable" issue.

[@bsharpmajorscale]

I'm sure most writers feel that way too, sometimes.

[@Triantalex]

false.

[@alessandroruggieri6779]

Related to the author Italo Calvino, he wrote a novel essentially in the same style of the method described in the video. The book is called: "Il castello dei destini incrociati" (could be translated into : "The castle of interconnected fates"). It tells the story of a group of people that have to invent new stories based on the order of selection of Tarot cards. The book is very funny to read

[@StevenHodder]

"Oh fruddled gruntbuggly..." Vogon Poetry detected!!!

[@jameshalldorsson9695]

Pythagoras noticed several of the Fibonacci numbers well before Fibonacci's time in the ratios of string length to the note produced on a lyre and translating these to geometric correlations like those of the edges and intersections of a Pentagram. As a musician and amateur mathematician myself it's these parallels between the arts and mathematics that I live for and I love this content, thank you Professor Marcus du Sautoy.

[@shruggzdastr8-facedclown]

...the best quantity over quality presentation that I've ever encountered!

[@Schattenhall]

quantity has an inherent quality to it

[@onemercilessming1342]

We did that in college. It was called "found poetry".

[@MushookieMan]

I found poetry written on the stall wall

[@davidgillies620]

It is precisely the constraints placed on a poem by sonnet structure (or other forms, like double dactyls) that makes writing one more of a creative act than, say, producing something in blank verse. It's also why writing software is like writing constrained-form poetry: you can be as creative as you like, subject to the proviso that what you write must be syntactically and semantically correct.

[@cameronhill7769]

There was an arts movement in the 1910s called Dada where poets took a similar approach. They would take a newspaper and cut out words/phrases/bits of words and place them in a bag, randomly sampling them without replacement to create a new poem. The beat generation novelist WS Burroughs adapted this technique in his own work (in the cutup trilogy), and David Bowie used the same technique to create the lyrics for Life on Mars.

[@Giantcrabz]

Radiohead does this too

[@onr-o1h]

I remember watching Marcus du Satoy's presentations of some historical sciences stuff on BBC, and I've been a fan since. Great to have him on Numberphile as well!

[@dermaniac5205]

Reminds me of Kirnberger's dice minuet. We learned about this in first semester at Uni (in discrete math). You use dice to generate random numbers which will then be used to pick music phrases which stitched together will generate a random minuet.

[@numberphile]

I gave the Star Wars crawl the n+7 treatment: www.bradyharanblog.com/blog/n7-writing

[@flamencoprof]

The first thing that came to mind, although less complex, is the lyrical technique I first heard of as used by David Bowie, previously Wm. S. Burroughs, and originally Brion Gysin in the 1950s. That is, Cut-up. Basically, paragraphs are written about the subject, then cut up into phrases, shuffled, and recombined to generate either usable or inspirational new sentences.

[@antivanti]

Using the sonnet thing as a kind of spring board to treat writers block is kind of like how tarot cards can be used to have a randomized way to look at a quandary from a different perspective to jog your brain out of the way you have been thinking which can lead you to a new understanding of the problem and potentially a solution

[@Giantcrabz]

i love tarot for this even though I don't believe in magic

[@Einyen]

It took exactly 1 min to read that. 10^14 min ~ 190 million years

[@mebamme]

8:23 I was waiting for Georges Perec to show up! His books are really interesting.

[@PopeLando]

I find it hard to put words to talk back to this.

[@mebamme]

@@PopeLando Man, if only I'd thought to do what you did! So obvious in hindsight.

[@cmloegcmluin]

only goof is both of your ID-words boast this outlaw char (oh, and so do my own)

[@Jooolse]

Ce repère, Pérec.

[@charks76]

In 1973, I wrote a program as an exercise for a programming course. It used a 10x10 grid where each grid contained a word, a phrase, or a null in such a way that randomly selecting one from each column in order would create a grammatical sentence. As a basis for the content selection, I used the list of educational jargon I found in a book by Dr Peter, the creator of the Peter Principle. The program first made a paragraph by creating five or six sentences and stringing them together. Next, two adjectives and a noun were randomly selected from the paragraph to serve as a title. Then using the same content words but a slightly different grid, the program created two questions that required long answers. No matter what the user wrote, the program randomly decided whether it was right or wrong. If it was marked correct, the user received a sentence (constructed in the same way as all the rest of the sentences) but asking the student if they had considered this a new randomly generated point. If the answer was wrong, the program generated a new random sentence from the grid that was supposed to be the answer. I posted this on the computer system at Dartmouth College, received a grade of A+ and forgot about it, moving on to other projects. However, a couple of months later, I received a notice that the program was being removed from the system. The reason was that some students were quoting the program in papers that they were writing for the education department.

[@mathphysicsnerd]

Your story is a gem, I would love to read some of the results of people citing your nonsense generator

[@daywidd]

Pretty sure I wrote that many poems during my edgy poet phase

[@bsharpmajorscale]

Death Doom and dark gloom Midnight Despair Skull Gone

[@RobotProctor]

VSauce had a short on constrained writing. He read a poem where the words had length 3 letters, 1 letter, 4 letters, 1,5,9,2,6... In that order. Quite interesting. EDIT: It was a novel, not a poem!

[@mojacodes]

wasn't it a novel?

[@jeremystanger1711]

It was an anthology of poems, short stories, etc., each of which has this constraint.

[@rosiefay7283]

"Pilish".

[@lafcursiax]

Raymond Queneau also--arguably--invented the Choose-Your-Own-Adventure story (prior to that particular franchise, of course)! And even if the results of OuLiPo were "just" absurd, nonsense literature itself has a long and respectable history.

[@paulbennett7021]

At least in what you read, it was just a disconnected list of thoughts. It's like the old Dada game The Exquisite Corpse

[@SaveSoilSaveSoil]

I came across this software which wrote love poems a few years ago. Everyone said nope, the language was so bad that it was impossible to secure a date with those poems. The language is Chinese by the way. Maybe things got a bit more advanced with all the neural networks and deep learning frameworks these days.

[@bsharpmajorscale]

I couldn't imagine trying to write a poem generator for a language so complex and nuanced as Chinese. There's not only the words, but also the inflections/tones to think about!

[@ArawnOfAnnwn]

What's it called and where can we find it?

[@DemBone93]

Emily Howard is such a great composer! I love to see this channel! There's always something to learn 😀 THANK YOU!

[@SpriteGuard]

These ideas have been evolving and expanding over the last half-century. If you're interested in seeing where this line of thought has gone, it would be cool to see the work of Kate Compton, Max Kreminski, Martin O'Leary, and others working in generative literature.

[@theolabbate1611]

Georges Perec was an absolute madman. His books are some of the most incredible stuff I've ever read, 10/10 would recommend

[@atlaskinzel6560]

Don't forget Gilbert Adair, his translator for *A Void*. Imagine avoiding "e" in French, and then being the person to translate it to English while still avoiding "e".

[@theolabbate1611]

@@atlaskinzel6560 A void is not the only one, apparently Omissions is also an amazing translation. La Disparition has been translated in multiple languages, sometimes changing the missing letter (as it should be the most used vowel in the target language). This book is impossible to translate perfectly but everyone translating it has as much fun with it than Perec did himself ! I have only read it in french for now, but might give it a try in english someday ! (For now though, I HAVE to read House of Leaves)

[@JavierSalcedoC]

Had to look up if Julio Cortazar was a member of Oulipo because of his book Rayuela. Interestingly, he was invited to join the group by Perec but Cortazar never actually formalized his adhesion. I imagine Huidobro has to be like a proto-oilupean as some of his poems are drawn and don't have a defined reading order

[@mcol3]

I suggest Italo Calvino's collection of short stories "t zero" for some mathematically inspired (and inspiring) writing!

[@adrigax]

Italo Calvino is indeed a member of OuLiPo.

[@bsharpmajorscale]

And here I was, just saving every scrap with a random idea on it. I could've been far more systematic! It's interesting that generation method is used for a sonnet, since my limited knowledge of that genre tells me that it's one that relies HEAVILY on how much meaning each line packs, and how each line reinforces or undercuts the others. That kind of constraint/limitation is one of the reasons I want to teach a video game music history class one day - the limitation of a soundchip and memory leading to highly concentrated music. The math and literature aspect is something I also want to study further: more stories like Flatland and its sequels, and the ones they brought up in the video. I like this episode a lot, so I think I might come back to check out the works cited. :P

[@lawrencecalablaster568]

I like how many Scottish references were in this- I wonder if that’s a result of the English translator or if Queneau intended it :)

[@olbaze]

I did something almost exactly like this for a university course project. I called it the "Dream Generator". I wrote several stories, split them into 3 parts. I had a 4th part that was different ways to wake up from the dream. I had an graphical interface with 2 buttons and a text window on it. The backend code would randomly pick a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th part, and print it out, part-by-part, as a potentially coherent, dream-like story. This was based on a personal experience with some of my dreams and how they might suddenly jump me from one context to another with no explanation whatsoever.

[@QuantumHistorian]

Some seriously good interviewing by Brady there!

[@danielfernandes1010]

This is so interesting! I want to explore if we can generate music this way. Like can we make "parts" of melodies that can be combined in different ways to generate many melodies.

[@theminecraftwikiman]

Some composers for video games have done stuff similar to that to procedurally match the music to what's happening in game. I don't think there's anything identical to what you're talking about, but the idea of procedural music is a fascinating one.

[@compechdev]

Check out Brian Eno :)

[@koharaisevo3666]

​@@theminecraftwikiman One example is Wii Tanks.

[@AeroCraftAviation]

Yeah, that's called all pop music ever. Same basket of perhaps a few hundred markedly different

[@awebmate]

In general, i would say that it is very common method to just grab something random for inspiration. Even if you don't get a full song out of it, just a few notes may give you an idea and something to work with.

[@electricmojo5180]

please more of "mathematics co-working with other directions of science and art and mankind" !

[@smylesg]

13:41 The ratio of consecutive Fibonacci numbers converges to The Golden Ratio, used by many artists and architects. Not sure if they realized that or if it just felt natural (like sunflowers and pinecones).

[@GasparLewis]

"People might think this is a lot of nonsense." Nothing wrong with nonsense; it's vital to the human condition.

[@rin_etoware_2989]

i've read The Myth of Sisyphus, and yes. we're born with nonsense, we live with nonsense, and we will die with nonsense.

[@Schattenhall]

Moreover, ridiculousness can be profound

[@kantamana1]

As soon as humans understand each others, they will start to fight and argue!

[@tafazzi-on-discord]

@@rin_etoware_2989 coper

[@tafazzi-on-discord]

It's widespread, not vital

[@NathanNokes]

Numberphile, Xenakis and Calvino!!! Wonderful.

[@larspos8264]

Could a poem be made that still makes sense after n+7?

[@Qermaq]

Could a pope be made that still makes sensualness?

[@tyab87]

Could a popper be made that still makes sentience?

[@IIARROWS]

You should make a video about the website that lets you visit the Library of Babel.

[@SoleaGalilei]

I was surprised they didn't mention that!

[@shuetomtqasaab]

Is this "four musical proofs and a conjecture" to be heard anywhere? I'm really curious about it

[@Vendavalez]

Each of Jorge Luis Borges' stories could have a Numberphile video made out of it. I would really enjoy that!

[@jimmorris5328]

My favourite example of mathematics in art is the Tool song Lateralus, written, structured and inspired by the Fibonacci sequence. Worthy of its own episode

[@jeffersonroth]

I used to lost a lot of time looking for Spotify playlists. Then I start generating a list of really random keywords, and listening to the first playlist that showed up when searching for them. Next step would be to list and assign a number to the keywords, and come up with a mathematical way to choose them, trying not to repeat keywords. I'll try it.

[@grahamumbo9059]

I can't pretend to have understood this video but it was still fascinating

[@snatchngrab8262]

It should be that each of the 10^14 sonnets is in the Library of Babel.

[@SiMeGamer]

A place where art influences math and science is in art itself. When a person wants to create something but they are not sure how (a vague idea), they are likely to require certain tools to do it and those tools sometimes don't exist and so they go on a journey of creating the tools they'll then use to make their art. I think one of the best quotes from a film director, George Lucas, is: "You don't invent technology and figure out what to do with it. You come up with an artistic problem and then you invent the technology in order to accomplish it." A lot of innovation comes from the arts, and I believe this includes math, especially when it comes to finding certain patterns, mostly visual arts. Lovely video :]

[@jthawken123]

Georges Perec looks like if Frodo gave up the quest and a just chilled blazing pipe weed in Bag End all day.

[@walkingwriter4325]

Awesome video! Great to watch if you're suffering from writer's block and need to reignite your creative fires. These were examples of English (or Shakespearian) sonnets as opposed to the Italian (Petrarchan) sonnet. I referred to my old copy of "The Book of Forms" by Lewis Turco to make sure I got it right (ha ha!). Loved the William Blake lines: "Hold infinity in the palm of your hand/And eternity in an hour." Sometimes the drudgery of a day can seem to drag on forever, yet at the same time you can imagine the events of the next year or two of your life passing by at breakneck speed. Life is funny.

[@bsharpmajorscale]

"Hold a quiche in the palm of your hand / And pizza for an hour."

[@Charcoal190]

In the ancient glade Across old bark The quiet shade It's always dark

[@NoNameAtAll2]

I want to say Outer Wilds, but I'm not sure...

[@Charcoal190]

@@NoNameAtAll2 Yep! The quantum poem that has 24 different permutations! The video's title reminded me of it.

[@MartinPuskin]

Any mathematician who is even mildly interested in literature should have read Borges!

[@bsharpmajorscale]

Not gonna lie, when he said Borges I immediately thought of Victor Borges. :P

[@kyugokato2262]

This somehow might be one of my most favorite videos

[@word6344]

Pretty sure Daina Taimina taking the exponenetially growing stitches of crochet and usign them to model hyperbolic geometry is my favourite example of math borrowing ideas from the arts

[@Sad_King_Billy]

This might be my favorite Numberfile video. One of my favorite bands (After the Burial) has a song called Pi where they create a song using the digits of Pi for rhythm.

[@Toobula]

A mathematician playing with poetry is like a watchmaker playing with fireworks.

[@joshjamesfilms]

Professor Sautoy’s t-Shirt is awesome by the way! Where could one purchase it?

[@Amy-jb7ix]

I remember learning about nonsense poetry in school. I recall the teacher saying the lyrics of Beatles (Come Together) was an example of this. I found this interesting.

[@Cloiss_]

This is how the opening poems in the Spelunky games work! 3 lines each pulling from a pool of about 10 possible lines... I wonder if Derek Yu had heard of this or if he came up with the idea independently? The concept gels nicely with the Spelunky games, which are comprised of levels made of "sub-rooms" that similarly pull from 10-15 possible generations pooled randomly

[@thesahil6854]

could you make a video on the order in which a self learner should teach himself math.

[@RobertoMariani]

At 7:21, isn't that the kind of poetry a Vogon would appreciate?

[@donsample1002]

That N+7 poem sounded very Lewis Carrollish.

[@pas-giaw6055]

I can't say you're wrong…

[@bsharpmajorscale]

Not enough confusing logic things.

[@Iam-pn9rj]

Each letter, digit and even any character can be encoded as a few-digits code. Each book can be translated as a very-very long series of such codes. You can find any series of digits in the decimal part of Pi. So it has all books published, to be written and never ever created

[@MyRegularNameWasTaken]

"You can find every series of digits in the decimal part of pi" is an incorrect myth.

[@esajpsasipes2822]

@@MyRegularNameWasTaken where proof that resolves that?

[@rickascii]

We don't actually know that we can find any sequence of digits in pi. It's conjectured but not proven.

[@esajpsasipes2822]

@@rickascii then it's not an incorrect myth either. It's just not proven.

[@rickascii]

@@esajpsasipes2822 As stated, "you can find every sequence of digits in the decimal part of pi" is in fact incorrect. Pi does not include an infinite sequence of 1's. If it did then it would be rational, which we know to be false. It's conjectured to be true that every _finite_ sequence of digits is contained in the decimal expansion of pi, but there's no known proof of that. It could very well be false, we have no real reason to believe it's the case other than a gut feeling.

[@TheKilogram1000]

This is just like rolling on a D&D table to make your own riddle.

[@noontimespender]

Antonin Artaud would be proud.

[@aaron6627]

I love the sweater!

[@jamielondon6436]

I think it would be fun to use the N+7 in a multilangual group and compare the results from each language's dictionary. :-) In lieu of that, different dictionaries for one language will also sort of work, I suppose.

[@skrimper]

Georges Perec looks so wild-eyed and crazy in that photo lol 😂

[@djudjux3936]

You need to be completely crazy to write a whole novel without the letter "e" in French.

[@bsharpmajorscale]

Right? He's got the kooky mathematician look down.

[@stefanf922]

If you look at M.C. Escher's spheres, he very much influenced the idea of space filling topography. Also, the band Tool uses Fibonacci sequence to write their music.

[@NA-mg2eb]

I'm surprised that when you talked about Borges you didn't mention Garden of Forking Paths and/or Book of Sand, since that's thematically so similar to the sonnet thing IIRC

[@GeorgeDCowley]

78 started as two stories, then synced up at the end. I actually focused on interpreting the new one and got "life or "meat and potatoes". Basically, it's the core of your being. Applying your ethos in every little thing. Eternity in an hour is also the only one in the original I interpreted much.

[@paulbennett7021]

Looking younger than ever, Marcus!

[@Lotrfan1991]

Yo! Where can I get that shirt??

[@sk8rdman]

The n+7 rule used the dictionary, presumably because it was the only accessible word database at the time. Today, we have more sophisticated word databases that we could use to create more aesthetically pleasing generative poems, with equally simple rules. Rather than organizing all words alphabetically, organize them by their meter, syllables, and how well they rhyme with one another. Then you could simply replace nouns with other similar sounding nouns and see what comes out.

[@kantamana1]

i am currently trying to program something similar to this problem to generate dance sequences for a game.

[@dedalusjmmr]

There is a slight error in the video. Sonnets are 4+4+3+3, at least for latin languages. 4+4+4+2 is known as the English sonnet.

[@qwertyioup195]

Hearing Greco-Latin squares brought up again takes me back to my experimental design course when I learned about blocking

[@bonemasterj]

You can find a video where the late jazz guitarist Pat Martino talks about using words to spell out musical ideas.

[@PapayaJordane]

It's interesting this video should come out as I'm starting to code something with a similar concepts for a game I want to make 🤔

[@henryparker8779]

Can you do a video on SSCG(3)?

[@smoorej]

I only have one question: where can I get one of those shirts????

[@letMeSayThatInIrish]

Where can we get that shirt?

[@kakonihoja5485]

This is going to be interesting

[@pierreabbat6157]

I remember reading an N+7 which begins "Call me islander. Some yeggs ago...".

[@olivier2553]

Funny the structure of a sonnet seems different between French and English: in French the lines are distributed by groups of 4, 4, 3 and 3 (while your example are 4, 4, 4, and 2). And the rimes would go: ABBA, CDDC, EEF, GGF. I tend to endorse Backblaze too because of their model largely based on open software.

[@bsharpmajorscale]

That's just added flexibility. Write it in the English style, then try it in the French!

[@olivier2553]

@@bsharpmajorscale That was not a critic, just a remark, I know poetry has very different rules in both languages.

[@livingbehind661]

we got two sides in our brains. i got one completely blocked. how do i open it ?

[@IkomaTanomori]

This is related to how incidental dialogue in video games is constructed procedurally.

[@DavidBeddard]

Ooo, I want to try that!

[@weddiedon]

Who is the trumpet player?

[@rssl5500]

Nice I love your channel Numberphile

[@andrewmercergeoinfo]

We need to build the Debacle Stare, now!

[@Marconius6]

In modern times, remember how many video games are based on procedural generation; much of that, especially for things like terrain, is based on some sort of noise, which is essentially just the visualization of a mathematical equation. If you've ever played Minecraft, the way certain types of blocks clump together and make natural-looking shapes, whether above or underground, is likely based on equations like these.

[@bsharpmajorscale]

And then it breaks at/after large 2^n values. What's an artistic equivalent to this? Taking literary/musical guidelines and strictures as far as they can go?

[@Marconius6]

@@bsharpmajorscale I'd say it's like making music that's ultrasound. The numbers and equations go as high as you want, they're just limited in practice by what a hard drive or human ear can handle.

[@MusicFanatical1]

Like an early form of automation creating something new. Pretty groundbreaking if you think about it. Algorithms before computers.

[@joshjamesfilms]

I understand why some people might disregard these ideas as nonsense- but I think it is important that these concepts make mathematics fun and thereby more accessible for people who may otherwise not be interested.

[@robertunderwood1011]

If you're not interested in mathematics this presentation to you of something that is not mathematics is not likely to help you get interested in mathematics

[@fraenzchen85]

Wonder if the generator story itself was generated and didn't even happen...or did it?

[@grezende4056]

Hey fellow mathematicians I need help. Im looking for a number I saw in a vid not sure if its was numberphile or Kurgenzast or something like that. It was basically the number of atoms needed in an universe to guarantee theres an exact copy of you. Basically it guarantees theres another arrangement of atoms exactly lile yourself. Any1 heard about it b4? Do yall know the name?