Catch David on the Numberphile podcast: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6qUc3qso7msh6M
@elviraloiuselabas8614 жыл бұрын
The most sides i know is the rhombicosidodecahedron it has 62 sides
@rews38734 жыл бұрын
Ok
@rews38734 жыл бұрын
@@elviraloiuselabas861 circle.
@thurlmusic4 жыл бұрын
numberphile, what if i found something for hendecagon (11) ?
@trummler41004 жыл бұрын
I've tried to follow your instrictions using Geogebra Classing and ended up with something close to a (20 1/8)-agon
@2Cerealbox9 жыл бұрын
This is like Geometry with Bob Ross.
@Geccobaer9 жыл бұрын
+Ryan N haha, my thoughts exactly! He is just missing the "here we draw some happy little circles"-part
@M3D1C21218 жыл бұрын
that's exactly what I was thinking.
@caixiuying89018 жыл бұрын
+Bon Bon It's not intended to be an art piece tho
@bonbonpony8 жыл бұрын
Marcello Chua Nevertheless, it serves better as a modern art piece than a geometric construction :P
@mstalcup8 жыл бұрын
+Ryan N The result here was, indeed, a happy accident.
@lumburgapalooza8 жыл бұрын
at first I was like "how did it take 2,000 years to work this out?" then I saw the steps required and was like "oh..."
@Scy8 жыл бұрын
Imagine all the fails.
@dalmacietis7 жыл бұрын
Well, for Gauss it took less than 15...
@dalmacietis7 жыл бұрын
+Sushi Nums It doesn't really work that way. When mathematicians do straightedge & compass construction, they don't ACTUALLY have to draw everything precisely; they just have to deduce what construction would yield what result and then approximately sketch that in the picture. As long as they have understanding of what they are doing, they don't need much precision :)
@dalmacietis7 жыл бұрын
+Sushi Nums Yeah, well you do have to be precise in your argumentation. But it's nowhere near as difficult as drawing this shape accurately ^^
@lumburgapalooza7 жыл бұрын
dalmacietis I said "the steps required", not "the number of steps required". Complexity, not quantity. Thanks though!
@6infinity88 жыл бұрын
- [Prof. Eisenbud] "Oh, it looks like I made a 21 polygon by accident" - [Bob Ross] "There are no mistakes, only happy little accidents"
@mercylessplayer8 жыл бұрын
he IS the mathematic bob ross
@jekyllgaming998 жыл бұрын
Bob Ross's art: Simple methods, beautiful results. Professor Eisenbud explaining a heptadecagon: Ditto.
@josefmuller60705 жыл бұрын
Well, the Bob Ross references surely made the recommended video right under this a Joy of painting episode emeralx waters.
@majarimennamazerinth57535 жыл бұрын
You've got to check out Tibees peeps
@thurlmusic4 жыл бұрын
weird, i constructed 5-gon by neusis
@londonalicante4 жыл бұрын
2 and 17 are coprime. So once you have 2/17 marked you don't have to bisect it, just use your compass to count the 2/17 sized spaces round the circle and after going round twice you should get back where you started with 17 points marked.
@MoonThuli8 жыл бұрын
This guy could be telling me that a plane is about to crash on my house and I'd still be relaxed.
@carlscabage7 жыл бұрын
dorgesh nah you really wouldn't lol
@KoenZyxYssel7 жыл бұрын
"So lets assume a plane is on a impact trajectory towards your house, the obvious course of action is to get out of the way but which way should you go? Now we calculate that but first we need some observations." Yep, death sentence.
@TarmanTheChampion5 жыл бұрын
@@carlscabage whooosh
@TarmanTheChampion5 жыл бұрын
LOL
@Intrafacial865 жыл бұрын
“Oh, well, after taking into account all the errors built up, looks like it’s actually crashing two streets over and four houses down.”
@EvanG5294 жыл бұрын
"I might make some mistakes" _Eyeballs a bisector_
@NicosMind9 жыл бұрын
I like this guy's voice. Its so relaxing. If he ever did an audio book I would sleep every time no matter the subject.
@NicosMind9 жыл бұрын
+Andre Vargas The man has a few career paths ahead of him. He'd be great doing a narration for a documentary.
@bonbonpony8 жыл бұрын
+NicosMind Yeah... it's so relaxing it makes me sleep ;°
@durinviirathkh-guzukh78068 жыл бұрын
+Andre Vargas yaaass
@Jawwnn8 жыл бұрын
+NicosMind its called ASMR ^>^
@edge-of-the-internet8 жыл бұрын
+NicosMind search up bob ross on youtube you will be satisfied
@imveryangryitsnotbutter8 жыл бұрын
"Now we draw ourselves a happy little 17-gon..."
@CharlesPanigeo8 жыл бұрын
Did you just make a Bob Ross reference?
@imveryangryitsnotbutter8 жыл бұрын
Charles Panigeo What if I did?
@EmergencyTemporalShift8 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about his happy little accident.
@toadfrommariokart647 жыл бұрын
Emergency Temporal Shift on this show we don't make mistakes, we just make happy little 21-gons
@ns81587 жыл бұрын
My first thought was that he is the Bob Ross of Mathematics.
@ben19961239 жыл бұрын
65537gon construction video please
@GothicKin9 жыл бұрын
Thulyblu I've never knew Gauss had to be written with a scharfes S until this comment. Now I feel ashamed.
@thulyblu54869 жыл бұрын
Jacopo Barberis don't feel bad... the ß is of little use in my mother tongue of German... they should have gotten rid of it and replaced it with double s when they had the opportunity with the spelling reform in 1996
@GothicKin9 жыл бұрын
Thulyblu I know it makes little sense to keep the scharfes and also reduce the words it is needed for. Get rid of it or give it a purpose. The fact is I've always studied math either in my mother language or in english and not too obviously the scharfes s was never used in any spelling. It was just curious to know that the name Gauss isn't actually Gauss. Funny enoguh, in his signature he didn't use the scharfes S but instead uses the double S.
@GothicKin9 жыл бұрын
Double vowel or the so unanbiguosly elegant ā. How can you mistake such a clear phoneme?
@GothicKin9 жыл бұрын
Tartaros I prefer it, too. I love forgotten and once loved letters no one likes anymore.
@scottmanley9 жыл бұрын
I'd be afraid to go near a place with the address 17 Gauss in case all my credit cards got wiped.
@AtliTobiasson9 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@hansguckindieluft30199 жыл бұрын
It´s funny how we end up on the same channels... I saw this particular video 2 days ago. Now you did. I suspect there´s some magic involved here...^^
@MikeAben9 жыл бұрын
I saw this a week or so ago. I love straightedge and compass constructions, but pen and ink, that's hard core.
@leojciaccioii9 жыл бұрын
dip safe!
@RealClassixX9 жыл бұрын
Scott Manley Gauss in case? Math puns are by far the greatest of them all.
@MBogdos969 жыл бұрын
Man, Gauss was unbelievable. Out of this world. I've never heard of any other scientist with that many contributions in that many different fields.
@frankschneider61569 жыл бұрын
MBogdos96 John von Neumann ... he was probably even more brilliant and surely a lot more versatile than Gauss and no, i don't question that Gauss was one of mankind's most brilliant minds at all
@joaocandeias70939 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Euler!
@frankschneider61569 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah, to my knowledge noone else has ever published more mathematical papers than he did (not even Erdös) and like everybody i do love Euler's identy. Nonetheless i would would argue that he wasn't on the same level of genius as von Neumann was.
@984francis9 жыл бұрын
***** And Euler was followed by Ruler (groan).
@techwithwhiteboard34836 жыл бұрын
Euler
@Taraalcar8 жыл бұрын
A real Parker's Square of a heptadecagon
@Azivegu8 жыл бұрын
+Taraalcar we are never gonna let that go are we?
@NoriMori19928 жыл бұрын
+Azivegu Apparently not. XD
@NoriMori19928 жыл бұрын
A Parker-gon. :D
@EdwardNavu7 жыл бұрын
We need a prefix for Parker's Square things. I recommend Parka- or Parko-, preferring the former over the latter. Ergo, it will have two names: Eisenbudo-heptadecagon, or Parka-heptadecagon. EDIT: Parkatetragono- is also nice, albeit a little too long.
@hansisbrucker8135 жыл бұрын
Was thinking of this :)
@Rickmakes9 жыл бұрын
I liked the story at the end.
@peterjensen68445 жыл бұрын
I find it fascinating that when David says (while drawing the Hexagon) "if I make the lines a little longer, its even nicer", I can see that if you DID make them longer, you'd get a triangle. That relationship of the circle, the hexagon and then the larger triangle is amazing to me.
@jeaguilar9 жыл бұрын
Brown paper didn't work, eh? Love the old-school ink. (I can almost smell it!)
@numberphile9 жыл бұрын
Juan Aguilar you can smell it for real if you like... bit.ly/brownpapers
@MazeFrame9 жыл бұрын
Numberphile Nice one^^
@jeaguilar9 жыл бұрын
Numberphile Bid in. I feel like I should've bid 17 or at least a prime number.
@tabularasa06069 жыл бұрын
It's blasphemy!
@EndrChe8 жыл бұрын
Juan Aguilar there's something lost in the old ways.
@DouglasZwick8 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just the wine, but the story at the end there about choosing to be 17 Gauss Way instead of 1 Gauss Way made me tear up. Excellent video!
@Kuoxsr8 жыл бұрын
Same.
@Harlequin3141599 жыл бұрын
I collect things like compasses and I always assumed those types of ends were meant to pinch and hold on to a bit of pencil graphite or something. I never imagined you could simply dip them, empty, into ink like that. Spectacular!
@frankschneider61569 жыл бұрын
Harlequin314159 same here ... i always wondered what these things in the compass sets where used for and of course used the ones with a pencil ... feel pretty dumb now ... ancient technology can be quite mysterious- curta anyone ?
@MrZelenka4th9 жыл бұрын
Harlequin314159 with those types of ends you can get different thicknesses of lines when drafting
@0fabe07 жыл бұрын
So did I. My best guess was that they were intended to hold razor blades, so you could cut out perfect circles.
@tuekyndal48056 жыл бұрын
Harlequin314159 you must be joking right... Lol....
@maryseeker75906 жыл бұрын
It’s a ruler pen tip and it makes great lines with ink, paint and even masking fluid
@asi.izzygizmic9 жыл бұрын
In the next video i want to see a heptadecaflexagon lol
@numberphile9 жыл бұрын
Anssi Arpiainen that would be something
@alexroberts87559 жыл бұрын
MatzeGamer It's a fancy mathematician's colour-shape puzzle
@Macvombat9 жыл бұрын
That book is quite a good read!
@Everfalling9 жыл бұрын
MatzeGamer just google "hexaflexagon"
@bonbonpony8 жыл бұрын
+Macvombat What book?
@beelzzebub4 жыл бұрын
That story about 17 Gauss way and the drawing of the construction on the front door was awesome!
@scowell9 жыл бұрын
Just to make it clearer, the professor makes the mistake at 6:12, where he continues dividing the line into quarters. You should proceed by dividing the segments once, extending the rays out to the arc, and dividing the angle for the final two 'quarters'... these tiny mistakes are enough to throw you off from 17 to 20-gon. Amazing when you see it work... I'm using CaRMetal, a wonderful free program.
@yesandno22179 жыл бұрын
You know, I really loved geometry in elementary school. I never was good at math, but I was always the best in solving geometry problems, because I loved to draw with my compass and ruler. I'm now sophomore in high school and haven't been into geometry lately. However, after watching how much you love to do this it brought a huge nostalgia to me. I think I'm going to draw some things right now, thank you.
@brabenetz8 жыл бұрын
He made a mistake at 6:20. THIS is the main reason of the false result not the inaccuracy. The correct lines are in the graph at 6:45
@aok76_8 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I followed up with him and I failed to construct it initially. Thank you for your vital comment. :D
@nianyiwang66598 жыл бұрын
wow i didnt even realize it...
@olldernew64316 жыл бұрын
I try again and get 17-gon
@riccardosarti32345 жыл бұрын
Exactly, he takes one fourth of those segments but he should take one half of the string obtained from the previous string and its half point... did he do it on purpose to stimulate comments?
@aMulliganStew5 жыл бұрын
I tried the wrong way (6:20) with AutoCad, then looked up the right way and yes, it’s the same as 6:40. Perhaps in another lifetime I’ll sit down and puzzle out why this works.
@newspaperlightbulb9 жыл бұрын
These videos are just amazing. Where else could you see such an influential mathematician like David Eisenbud explaining a fun little geometry project?
@JoseyWales939 жыл бұрын
257-gon video please! Made me remember a very interesting homework one of my maths teachers gave me about 20 years ago: construction of 5-gon aka pentagon with ruler and compass. Since then I learned about the Gauss-Wanzel theorem...
@steveneckert52885 жыл бұрын
I love the comparison to origami. The precision required for a construction like that is amazing.
@TheMrSamusic9 жыл бұрын
+Numberphile there's a little mistake in the construction! At 6:00 when you have the circumference whose radius is half the original radius, you shouldn't divide the segment in half and fourth, but the arc of the circumference! So the right way is to bisect the arc and then bisect it again. :) I'm telling it because I spent much time constructing this amazing 17-gon hahahahaha
@TheMrSamusic9 жыл бұрын
@Numberphile
@psapunar4 жыл бұрын
i agree mistake was made. this is wrong construction u need to bisect angles not lines
@philliptobin36952 жыл бұрын
yeah i attempted to replicate this numerous times and kept getting consistent 20 or 21gon. then i looked at the whole construction at 10:29....next attempt, I made a real heptadecagon on my first try. I used 005 fineliners and it looks beautiful
@lawrencedoliveiro91046 жыл бұрын
10:23 That’s OK, we salute you for trying ... a 21-gon salute. Thank you, thank you, I’m here all week.
@bentheredonethat13504 жыл бұрын
Well done
@iSycorax9 жыл бұрын
MIsspelt professor at 6:18, we do not forget.
@thulyblu54869 жыл бұрын
I demand the death penalty
@pete0mat9 жыл бұрын
Nah, he's just written it not in English :P E.g. in Polish it is exactly like that: one "f", one "s" ;)
@chardeth77329 жыл бұрын
Wizdomtrek Well then what penalty is fit for those who misspell "too"
@pete0mat9 жыл бұрын
TD Shamu And for those who forget about question marks? (I'm curious what mistakes I have made here :P)
@orssidia9 жыл бұрын
Piotr Matysiak None besides using an emoticon as end punctuation.
@DJTyrrell9 жыл бұрын
5:43 "I love it" - I smiled from ear to ear when David said that!
@RobertRussellComposer9 жыл бұрын
Didn't quite work for me (using GeoGebra). I got just a little over a 20-gon. Could it be numerical error? Has anyone else managed to replicate it perfectly?
@ikkohmation9 жыл бұрын
Same for me on geogebra and for another with autocad (see below). Must be a mistake.
@RobertRussellComposer9 жыл бұрын
Either that, or it's rounding error within GeoGebra and AutoCad. I just tried it again in GeoGebra (using the inbuilt perpendicular bisector function rather than constructing all the bisections myself using just circles), and got even a little more than a 20-gon.
@thesimulacre9 жыл бұрын
Also got closer to 20..i think there's a small error, and not the eye-balling type
@ikkohmation9 жыл бұрын
I agree that some of the error is attributable to rounding. But I'm surpised we all (4 people) get a 20ish-gon. Should'nt we all get different polygons ?
@RobertRussellComposer9 жыл бұрын
Still... how much fun is it just to follow along?
@Olect8 жыл бұрын
I love doing compass and straight edge constructions. My Euclidean Geometry class in undergrad made me fall in love. Great video!
@callummcgillivray96086 жыл бұрын
When I was in high-school I did basically an engineer's drawing class as one of my electives. Every now and then we had to draw pentagons which is a little bit of a process (albeit easier than the 17-gon!) but mistakes were made and it was never accurate to any degree. So I thought to myself, if we can take the radius of a circle to make a hexagon surely there's a way to make a pentagon. After about a half hour of drawing and math I came to the conclusion if you take the radius of a circle and multiply it by I think 1.76 or something you'd get really close to the length of the side of a pentagon. Using that you can work backwards too. It's nothing fundamentally groundbreaking but for me as a 15 year old it was a cool and easy way to finish my exams quicker
@alecs81418 жыл бұрын
I really like this man's voice. I could listen to him talk about mathematics for hours and not get bored.
@maximilianbur25604 жыл бұрын
my lord his pronounciation of Gauss‘ full name was flawless
@erwinjohannarndt41664 ай бұрын
The story at the end makes it perfect... I do love how Gauss shows up and goes "Hey, heres how to do a 17 drawing"....
@IoEstasCedonta9 жыл бұрын
..."was Gauss a mathematician?"
@d.campbell30804 жыл бұрын
Gauss's construction of the 17gon is absolutely beautiful. It would make a lovely painting.
@RLCypher9 жыл бұрын
Perform this correctly and you can summon Bakhtak to do your bidding, allowing you to turn your enemies' dreams into nightmares.
@inkolore29 жыл бұрын
+Curly Fride Haha you activated my trap card
@THE1blueElephant9 жыл бұрын
What game is this lol
@rrelrel9 жыл бұрын
lol
@bonbonpony8 жыл бұрын
+Curly Fride Or make a transmutation circle ;)
@MustardPipeLibrary8 жыл бұрын
+Curly Fride Nah, that's what happens when you construct the 257-gon.
@elwynbrooks9 жыл бұрын
That little end screen story was WONderful!! So sweet
@Septagon9 жыл бұрын
I almost feel relevant...
@AvinashtheIyerHaHaLOL7 жыл бұрын
It's okay. You'll get there
@bradenross41826 жыл бұрын
Ooof
@user-rd7jv4du1w5 жыл бұрын
It's heptagon not septagon lol, your animations are cool tho
@timothydavies32935 жыл бұрын
@@user-rd7jv4du1w septagon and heptagon are both allowed
@fonaimartin989 жыл бұрын
Using the 2/17 of a heptadecagon is also applicable. Going around the circle with it will mark all of our points. (Provable using abstract algebra, unless the numerator and the denominator does not have common divisors.)
@DC-zi6se5 жыл бұрын
For beauty and volume: Euler For impact: Newton, Leibniz, Lagrange For range: von Neumann For insight: Riemann, Cauchy ... For all of the above: GAUSS, the smartest person to ever live, dwarfing the likes of Newton, von Neumann and Archimedes, in my view and yes all the other ones mentioned were abnormally talented.
@Cadwaladr3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favourite numberphile videos. I keep coming back to watch it again. I suppose at some point I should try to construct a heptadecagon myself.
@iabervon9 жыл бұрын
That 17-gon on the door should normally be sufficient to get visitors within one standard deviation of the right place 62% of the time.
@MrCooldude41729 жыл бұрын
I don't know what you are saying, but it sounds cool.
@buca1179 жыл бұрын
It would have been cooler if it was a real result of a calculation instead of just a mathematical jargon drop.
@oO_ox_O9 жыл бұрын
buca117 It's not just random jargon. If you have a *Gaussian* distribution then the area (the chance) from one inflection point to the other (that's the mean minus and plus the standard deviation respectively) is indeed about 62% of the whole. Never had basic statistics?
@oO_ox_O9 жыл бұрын
buca117 I didn't really intent to insult you, I just found it interesting that you apparently thought to be able to discern math babble from real stuff while not knowing about stuff you should learn about in secondary school (high school). But to be fair I really don't know whether they it's part of the mandatory curriculum where you are from so I am genuinely interested whether you had it. Considering how it's such an important topic, especially nowadays, I really can't really imagine that it's not, I mean how else could you even know what it means that e.g. a null hypothesis got reject with 95% certainty or what it means if the median is very different from the arithmetic mean value.
@buca1179 жыл бұрын
o_O I covered standard deviation. I covered the normal distribution curve. I covered this material. I also am not a math person, so the fact that 62% of the normal distribution curve is found within 1 standard deviation slipped my mind, especially since I haven't touched that material in over a year and my college stats class was dumbed down to the point where I took three pages of notes the entire semester, missed a third of the classes, and still aced the class. Essentially, while this IS a Numberphile video, not only should you not assume that everyone here has a passion for math but you should also refrain from assuming that everyone has had as quality an education as you.
@TheYear25258 жыл бұрын
Finally I know what that part of the compass is used for! :D
@acorn10148 жыл бұрын
11:24. What a parker square of a 17-gon.
@Saki6309 жыл бұрын
OMG Brady, this has got to be my favorite video. I liked how much fun he was having. The Eisenbud 17-gon would look great on everyone's walls at home at at work. I would like to see more of these int he future, then teach me graph theory.
@StephanAhonen8 жыл бұрын
I repeated this construction in a piece of geometry software (geogebra) and I didn't get a 17-gon, but rather a slightly-more-than-20-gon.
@Monsolido8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comment, I did it on paper as precisely as I could and got the same result as yours. The accurate version at 10:30 doesn't match the construction in the video. There's a mistake at 5:56 He divides the 2 lines in quarters. Instead you only need to divide them in half, and let the bisections intersect the circle. Then draw 2 new lines between these intersections and the middle, and finally divide these in half. I guess he missed this step..
@akaRicoSanchez8 жыл бұрын
The diagram on the door at 13:31 also seem to indicate double bisections of the angles instead of divisions by four of the chords. With this error, the professor Eisenbud stood no chance! :)
@TheNumberScott9 жыл бұрын
Loved the story at the end about naming the street almost more than the main video!
@88Nieznany888 жыл бұрын
21-gon? take every 3rd verticle and u made 7-gon!
@maxhaibara88287 жыл бұрын
21-gon? divide every side by 100 and u made 2100-gon!
@bernardz20027 жыл бұрын
Max Haibara I dont think you can divide an angle into 100 equal parts using a compass and straighedge.
@mariosstamoulis73457 жыл бұрын
+Bernard Playz just believe.
@Amateur0Visionary6 жыл бұрын
He has such a soothing, Bob Ross-like tone. Why weren't my math profs like this gentleman?
@stubbydoughnut91009 жыл бұрын
So why exactly is he doing these "by eye"? It's still unclear to me...
@vintagestuffguy19989 жыл бұрын
If only the video would explain it several times...
@tupples33269 жыл бұрын
TheVintageStuffGuy1998 I think Niko was sarcastic :P
@vintagestuffguy19989 жыл бұрын
***** So was I! :D
@Sp1derFingers9 жыл бұрын
TheVintageStuffGuy1998 some people just can't handle layer 2 sarcasm
@vintagestuffguy19989 жыл бұрын
Needs to level up... Gain a few more Exp...
@FelixSalazar9 жыл бұрын
The story of the end of this video is extremely cool. Thanks Brady.
@FelixSalazar9 жыл бұрын
I gotta try this. I feel like a n00b. I only drew a 5-gon and a 7-gon when I was in primary school
@madgunner018 жыл бұрын
the guy has the same voice tone as bob ross, I like it.
@drumetul_dacic9 жыл бұрын
Is it weird that I love the voice of this professor? :)
@CarnifaxMachine8 жыл бұрын
5:30 into Heptadecagon and chill and he tells you....
@everythingexpert47958 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for someone to mention that
@LunaMail5 ай бұрын
I generally do not find myself wishing to go to particular places just to see it with my own eyes. I don't believe I've ever wanted to visit somewhere more than 17 Gauss Way, to *feel* the 17 gon construction with my brain in person [not touch, just stare, mesmerized ~ no fingerprints on the glass!!]. The story of how Gauss Way was named hit my heart like a ton of bricks. Oh, to be surrounded by such brilliance! Can't wait to get a compass so I can fully learn this construction. I only wish to learn first-hand! Thank you, Professor Eisenbud! I would love to sit in a class with you as the professor!!! *time to do some research to see if the institute allows visitors...* I miss mathematics. Thank you for introducing me to a new reason to love the prime number 17, for helping me learn more about Fermat Primes, and inspiring a strong desire to learn constructible polygons! It seems so therapeutic to draw with the ink ahhhhhh!!! ♡♡♡
@SamuelEstenlund9 жыл бұрын
I'm a little sad this video wasn't 2 seconds shorter...
@thulyblu54869 жыл бұрын
it could have been 17:17 ... so many missed opportunities
@MarcoFitser5 жыл бұрын
This guy's voice is so calm and soothing to the ears.
@pythor29 жыл бұрын
Why is it impossible to make a 21-gon?
@thulyblu54869 жыл бұрын
... it's already _gon_ before you start... * badumtsh *
@gianma939 жыл бұрын
Gon, 21-gons 🎶
@robosergTV9 жыл бұрын
why is 2+2 is NOT 5? Because
@TacticusPrime9 жыл бұрын
Well, they didn't go into the maths on how Gauss discovered how to produce a 17-gon with just a compass and straight edge. It must be a property of that.
@Hecatonicosachoron9 жыл бұрын
If you use neusis to trisect an angle you can construct the regular icosihenagon (or henkaieicosagon if you want to be very classical) from the regular heptagon.
@TheCodingDuck9 жыл бұрын
I always loved compass and ruler drawings! It is so pleasing to be able to see the math behind the polygons we draw everyday!
@kyanleong80143 жыл бұрын
“The polygons we draw everydy” do you draw 17-gons every day?
@TheCodingDuck3 жыл бұрын
@@kyanleong8014 Each day in the past six years, I wake up, make some coffee, and draw a 17-gon on paper.
@VienerSchnitzel698 жыл бұрын
Why is his voice so soothing wtf
@soylentgreenb5 жыл бұрын
Did you ever see Bob Ross?
@mitchumsport9 жыл бұрын
not to take away from the beauty of the geometry in this video, but I'd point out that with the magic of editing the Professor doesn't need to 'take our time' to do anything. If some parts of it are tedious to watch but a joy to do, they could simply be excluded or represented by the graphics you use in the video. I'm glad he admits he's a little tired of it towards the end lol.
@NickPappas-NP8 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't it be called decaheptagon? 17 in Greek is decahepta not heptadeca (Same for all n-gons with 13
@eblackbrook5 жыл бұрын
When you say "17 in Greek is decahepta" do you mean modern Greek or Ancient greek? Could it be possible that this changed between the two? (And if so, the why of that would be another interesting story.)
@ChrisWilliamsRMWpigeon5 жыл бұрын
odd numbers are hard to work with, but interesting when you find the trick, multiplication helps, here a example, if you want to make a 15 pointed star, you would draw a 5 star and divide it 2 more times, 3x5=15, you could start with a triangle also, coz 5x3=15 also, which makes a triangle and a pentagon appear in the same polygon or polygram
@mikerich329 жыл бұрын
I would like to watch this video, but every time I try to watch it, an ad tries to play first, but THE AD NEVER COMES. I'M STUCK HERE WAITING FOR THE AD TO PLAY SO I CAN WATCH THE VIDEO BUT IT NEVER DOES AND I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR FIFTEEN MINUTES NOW AND THE VIDEO SEEMS REALLY INTERESTING AND I WANT TO WATCH IT BUT IT WON'T LET ME!!!1!!1!one1!
@Cyberspine9 жыл бұрын
Psst... google AdBlock
@thulyblu54869 жыл бұрын
ghostery plugin for firefox also does the trick perfectly
@mikerich329 жыл бұрын
i was on my phone lol but, i did finally watch it like 5 minutes after i posted that comment haha
@juangenarosantos4703 жыл бұрын
Sees the thumbnail affter watching Great Big Story's Why the World’s Best Mathematicians Are Hoarding Chalk: Oh! It's one of the Hagoromo Chalk people! He really has a soothing voice. Wish I had this guy as my math professor!
@quinn78946 жыл бұрын
The Eisenberg 17-gon: the early version of the parker square
@edzizayari60378 жыл бұрын
I feel so relaxed after watching this, the video has some kind of hypnotic effect or something
@SaraBearRawr03129 жыл бұрын
I like him, can we keep him?
@louiswouters719 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool. I figured that you don't have to bisect the line that is 2/17 of the circle. Just use your compass with that width and go around the circle twice!
@KayvanAbbasi9 жыл бұрын
6:13 "Professor" is missing an 's'. That does not take anything from the great value of your awesome videos though, which I try to follow every chance that I get. Thank you all for making this beautiful channel. Warm regards, Kayvan
@panda42477 жыл бұрын
11:09 - nice Parker Square move there!
@givememore4free9 жыл бұрын
This guy should not moonlight in a PIZZA SHOP because it would take him all day to cut a pizza. I think he would have a stroke if I asked him to make 13 slices in the pizza
@thulyblu54869 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to imagine cutting pizza with a compass
@faokie9 жыл бұрын
He would just do it by eye.
@jwilbrahamford9 жыл бұрын
love that anecdote about the naming of the street.
@zachrodriguez36679 жыл бұрын
That's great but... will it bring Ed and Al's mother back?
@marcusb26509 жыл бұрын
Everything comes at a cost
@amcghie79 жыл бұрын
This is the sort of man you could listen yattering on all day! We need more teachers like that haha
@NoriMori19928 жыл бұрын
I'll call it the Eisengon! :D
@Quiltfish5 жыл бұрын
The Eisenbud 17-gon and the Parker square, deserving of the Numberphile hall of fame.
@tomaspabon24848 жыл бұрын
Dude,this guy is more stoned than I am
@rv7065 жыл бұрын
I love how he doesn't mind to be a bit imprecise in drawing with the ink (but precise with the concepts, of course), obtaining images more like the ones by an architect or an artist than the ones by an engineer.
@archeronskis9 жыл бұрын
I think maybe you need more videos about pi... /s
@LittleLionRawr9 жыл бұрын
tau.
@lukewest3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful little story at the end!
@JBroMCMXCI7 жыл бұрын
11:24 The Parker Square of heptadecagons
@Waffle_65 жыл бұрын
that marker Gave me chills throughout the whole episode
@NickAlpha_9 жыл бұрын
the correct term is dekaheptagon , not heptadekagon ...
@raynsajahan77118 жыл бұрын
no heptadecagon is correct because deca is for 10 while 7 is hepta so decaheptagon is wrong. it's basically 10 -7 shape
@raynsajahan77118 жыл бұрын
+Rayn Sajahan think
@NickAlpha_8 жыл бұрын
For Number 17 , you read first the 10 and then the 7 in greek language . In english , first is the 7 then the 10 and that creates the confusion here . I believe that if you decide to use a greek phrase for your numerology then you have to use it accordingly because otherwise you have stn with no meaning and a grammatical error at the same time .
@kunstderfugue8 жыл бұрын
+Nick Alpha it's dodecagon for twelve (do - two) so i see it only fair that 17-gon is called heptadecagon.
@NickAlpha_8 жыл бұрын
Energy Core Yes 12 is dodeka , from dio (2) and deka (10) but for 17 it is dekahepta . Go figure ...
@Ringersan29 жыл бұрын
3:30 A stamp from my non-existing home country, the GDR. :-) I almost felt of my chair laughing.
@JLConawayII9 жыл бұрын
I don't like heptadecagons, I think they're pretentious.
@thulyblu54869 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Hexadecagons are way cooler.
@CharlieInDaUK9 жыл бұрын
Prefer pentadecagoneps
@martijnvanloocke37499 жыл бұрын
Never trust a deceptigon
@NFITC19 жыл бұрын
+JLConawayII All primes are pretentious.
@dougr.23985 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the pretension is in your presumption!!
@MathHacker429 жыл бұрын
I tried it with just compass and straight-edge and it worked perfectly.
@mikeFolco8 жыл бұрын
The Bob Ross of math
@themikezster6 жыл бұрын
That compass that uses an ink reservoir is the coolest damn math implement I've ever seen.
@Carmenifold8 жыл бұрын
This guy's like math Bob Ross
@dougr.23985 жыл бұрын
David is the son of my third quantum theory professor, Dr. Leonard Eisenbud, whose Doctoral thesis advisor was Dr. Geno Wigner (at Princeton). Dr. Leonard also was a nature photographer in the Setauket area of New York, and a member of my (very generous) oral examination triumvirate in 1977-78. Dr. L Eisenbud developed the theory of nuclear reaction “channels”, quantum input and output states, with E. Wigner. Dr. Dave was also President of the M.A.A for about a year.
@Anti_everything_and_everyone9 жыл бұрын
Anyone else see Pacman getting brain freeze from a little ice cream cone?
@albertavila87368 жыл бұрын
I find it amazing, but i would love too see also the demonstrstion of why it is done like this. BTW great content, congrats from Spain
@ffggddss7 жыл бұрын
What a great idea - let's thread a needle wearing oven mitts!
@dong.75198 жыл бұрын
u r going way back in history I applaud you sir
@mohadish19 жыл бұрын
Bad news everyone , i am using a very accurate sketching program... and this solution is wrong, it dose not work when you play it out with 0 tolerance for error... i tried it 3 times, sorry.
@zeitgeistmusica8 жыл бұрын
+mohadish1 Me too! Got a 20-21 gon. Followed his instructions to the letter using GeoGebra! Checked, double checked, triple checked! He made a mistake somewhere. Looks like the etching on the door is wrong too! Ooops!!! Where was his mistake? Please someone help!!!
@pocoapoco28 жыл бұрын
+Rick Skinner No there's no mistake. You can confirm the construction mathematically. It's rather long, but it can certainly be done.
@zeitgeistmusica8 жыл бұрын
Actually there is a mistake! I know it can be done, it has been mathematically proven by Gauss, but I'm saying this demonstration has a mistake somewhere. Several people have arrived at the same incorrect construction.
@pocoapoco28 жыл бұрын
+Rick Skinner If you follow his demonstration mathematically you will see that it does indeed work if it is constructed perfectly. The angle between the first angled line and the diameter of the main circle can be calculated as tan^-1(.25) for example or 14.036 degrees.
@zeitgeistmusica8 жыл бұрын
pocoapoco2 I have followed his demonstration 'mathematically' using geometry software. Why don't you re-read my comments above!
@SquirrelASMR2 жыл бұрын
So cool how his compass uses ink and not just a tiny pencil jammed in a holder