The Journey to 3264 - Numberphile

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Professor David Eisenbud talks about conics, and visits a few numbers along the way.
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@numberphile
@numberphile Жыл бұрын
David Eisenbud Numberphile Playlist: bit.ly/Eisenbud_Videos David Eisenbud: math.berkeley.edu/people/faculty/david-eisenbud 3264 and All That: A Second Course in Algebraic Geometry: amzn.to/3lQfyKR David Eisenbud author page on Amazon: amzn.to/3G2VJ9S
@Syncrotron9001
@Syncrotron9001 Жыл бұрын
When you make it above 9000 let me know
@jenspettersen7837
@jenspettersen7837 Жыл бұрын
Cool video! I am very excited about the recent einstein tiling discovery, I hope you'll manage to make a video about that!
@averagelizard2489
@averagelizard2489 Жыл бұрын
Can you please do SSCG(3) next?
@olivierbegassat851
@olivierbegassat851 Жыл бұрын
I love his D. Eisenbud's cadence and soft spoken-ness. It's always a pleasure when he's on Numberphile : )
@subnormality5854
@subnormality5854 Жыл бұрын
I miss the old days of the Eisenbud 17-gon
@wheatdaddy_9629
@wheatdaddy_9629 Жыл бұрын
Woah, phrasing, pal
@Sad_Bumper_Sticker
@Sad_Bumper_Sticker Жыл бұрын
Indeed, his way of speaking creates a truly unique cogni-feast ambience, I could listen to him teaching for hours without losing focus.
@codycast
@codycast Жыл бұрын
Some of you guys are strange.
@kostoffj
@kostoffj Жыл бұрын
Math ASMR
@MrPictor
@MrPictor Жыл бұрын
Eisenbud's uncertainty principle: when drawing circles, the location of the pen cannot be known with any accuracy whatsoever.
@kylegonewild
@kylegonewild Жыл бұрын
Parker Squares and Eisenbud Circles. Can't wait to see what approximate value gets created on Numberphile next.
@WhereNothingOnceWas
@WhereNothingOnceWas Жыл бұрын
Numberphile Cinematic Universe lore
@rif6876
@rif6876 Жыл бұрын
"The point at infinity" - greatly appreciate the rigor! always surprised that other mathematicians on numberphile dont state it that way.
@QuantumHistorian
@QuantumHistorian Жыл бұрын
Lovely topic! I can't help but feel that a little more explanation could be given to statements like _"A circle in the space of line,"_ not everyone watching numberphile is going to immediately see a parameter space as a geometric object.
@viliml2763
@viliml2763 Жыл бұрын
You mean "a line in the space of circles"? I thought that was a weird choice of phrase too but I guess that just means a one-parameter continuous family of circles
@QuantumHistorian
@QuantumHistorian Жыл бұрын
@@viliml2763 Yep, that's what I meant. And yes, that's exactly what it means. But to someone not used to abstracting things via geometry it's not obvious.
@lonestarr1490
@lonestarr1490 Жыл бұрын
@@QuantumHistorian And I think this non-obviousness is well placed in that context. It makes people stop and think, "wait. What _is_ a line really?"
@QuantumHistorian
@QuantumHistorian Жыл бұрын
@@lonestarr1490Yes, exactly, except that because the speaker *doesn't* stop and instead continues the stream of new ideas, the viewer doesn't have the time to stop and think unless they manually pause (or, if they do, they'll fall behind the rest of the video). That's precisely why the speaker should spend a little bit of time clarifying what he means by that in order to give the viewer time to digest that alternative way of thinking about things.
@doodlegoat
@doodlegoat Жыл бұрын
Joke reference for those unfamiliar with English-language culture: "1066 And All That" is a parody of History teaching in British primary schools, published in 1930.
@NoNameAtAll2
@NoNameAtAll2 Жыл бұрын
can you give a timestamp as well?
@jorgechavesfilho
@jorgechavesfilho Жыл бұрын
This 1930 book inspired several other history books with similar titles and in the same sarcastic tone.
@DukeBG
@DukeBG Жыл бұрын
Oh, I was definitely not familiar with this fact! Is there something special about the year 1066 in that title?
@neilmasson3609
@neilmasson3609 Жыл бұрын
​@@DukeBG That was the year that England was invaded by the Normans. It was supposed to be one of the only two dates taught in history which people actually remembered. I think that the other one was nineteen fourteen eighteen.
@NoNameAtAll2
@NoNameAtAll2 Жыл бұрын
@@DukeBG it's important for english history - french,english and norman leaders battled over who would rule brittain
@geekjokes8458
@geekjokes8458 Жыл бұрын
"if you may remember i did a video of the fundamental theorem of algebra", yes it was 8 years ago and one of my favourite numberphile videos ever
@hufflepuffjoh
@hufflepuffjoh Жыл бұрын
Oh my, it's been so long since we had an Eisenbud video! So great to see him back
@TippyHippy
@TippyHippy Жыл бұрын
l put my hamster in a sock and slammed it against the furniture.
@penfelyn
@penfelyn Жыл бұрын
when you combine complex numbers with conics on Numberphile you get an iConic video
@Donbros
@Donbros Жыл бұрын
I am actually impressed not by the video and theory but by how he drew those circles neatly
@patrickmckinley8739
@patrickmckinley8739 Жыл бұрын
11:50 What about the xy term? I don't understand why we're not dealing with a 6-dimensional space when conics are free to rotate.
@willnewman9783
@willnewman9783 4 ай бұрын
This was a mistake. It is really a 5 dimensional space, but you shold have the xy term: ax^2+bxy+cy^2+dx+ey+f=0 You get that it is only 5 dimensional because, although there are 6 coordinates, multiplying all of the coordinates by a fixed scalar does not change the conic. Example x^2+y^2-1=0 and 2x^2+2y^2-2=0 give the same conic. So the dimension of the space decreases by 1 (from 6 to 5), since we have a 1 dimensional space for this scalar. Quotienting out by the relation of multiplying all coefficients by a scalar gives the famous projective space, with the points at infinity. I think David did not want to go into all of this, and tried a shortcut, which didn't fully work out. A correct way of doing the shortcut would be looking at equations of the form ax^2+xy+cy^2+dx+ey+f=0 where we set b=1. This can be done for most conics by multiplying the equation by 1/b. This only does not work if your conic has b=0, which is a negligable amount of conics, and would not affect the answers for "generically how many conics are tangent to...."
@pierreabbat6157
@pierreabbat6157 Жыл бұрын
7776 is called "weremeke" in Arammba, also "wärämäká" and "wermeke" in other Yam languages.
@ryanswindell1936
@ryanswindell1936 Жыл бұрын
Equation of a circle at 8.56 should be (x-a)^2 + (y-b)^2 =r^2
@redapplefour6223
@redapplefour6223 Жыл бұрын
i just happened to watch the video on matrix factorization a couple hours ago, i always misread the title as matrix multiplication and thought it wouldn't be particularly interesting since i already understand all that.. lovely to see another one with david eisenbud already! saw a video too, on projective geometry, which is related to this video's topic somewhat too! definitely one of the most odd sub box moments ive had like that before, most i can think of right now
@RobotProctor
@RobotProctor Жыл бұрын
Collatz Conjecture Guy returns
@f5673-t1h
@f5673-t1h Жыл бұрын
"Collatz Conjecture guy" 🙄 This is David fucking Eisenbud
@asheep7797
@asheep7797 Жыл бұрын
@@f5673-t1h donald knuth goldbach?
@RobotProctor
@RobotProctor Жыл бұрын
@@f5673-t1h it's supposed to be tongue and cheek; it's my ignorance not his. I bet he would get a kick out of the comment, not feel anger or anything. If I thought he would be upset by it I wouldn't have made the comment.
@emirates4321
@emirates4321 Жыл бұрын
​@@f5673-t1h nobody cares
@NotoriousSRG
@NotoriousSRG Жыл бұрын
Dang his mom really named him specifically
@wyattstevens8574
@wyattstevens8574 Жыл бұрын
15:13 I was in a program co-hosted by Dr. Sotille (Dr. "I can make all 3264 conics have real values for a, b, c, d, *and* e") a few years back. I still remember that half an hour into each session of the program, when middle-school and high school students would split up, he'd just yell "HEY!" to catch everyone's attention. Seriously- I can still imagine him doing that, which is the first thing I thought of after you mentioned him! (and after I realized he was it- that made me do a double-take!)
@nokanol45
@nokanol45 Жыл бұрын
Off topic, but is a video about the singular aperiodic tiling (an "einstein") that was JUST discovered a few weeks ago in the pipelines? If so, I'm really looking forward to it!
@osmia
@osmia Жыл бұрын
+
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 Жыл бұрын
Here, here! And the trig functions that prove the Pythagorian theorem too.
@SaveSoilSaveSoil
@SaveSoilSaveSoil Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see Prof. Kaplan on Numberphile!
@oz_jones
@oz_jones Жыл бұрын
@@nosuchthing8 *hear, hear
@subjectline
@subjectline Жыл бұрын
The 1066 and all that reference is very much in keeping with the Eisenbud style.
@Parekhnish
@Parekhnish Жыл бұрын
8:53 should be (y - b), not (x - b)
@ravi12346
@ravi12346 Жыл бұрын
Also at 11:40, there should be an xy term as well. That *would* mean there are six parameters instead of five, but really we should think of all of these equations up to a multiplicative scalar (e.g. x^2 - y = 0 is the same conic as 2x^2 - 2y = 0), which drops us back down to five independent parameters.
@emilianol203
@emilianol203 Жыл бұрын
@@ravi12346 x^2-y=0 is the parabola y=x^2. But without the rectangular term xy u can't make a hyperbola
@CatInABaseballCap
@CatInABaseballCap Жыл бұрын
I once fell into a rabbithole of 3, 7, 9, 11, 13, and 37. I wasn’t disappointed.
@junerae
@junerae Жыл бұрын
intriguing, could you say more?
@zacadoole1
@zacadoole1 Жыл бұрын
Y’all should make a video on how those two students proved the Pythagorean theorem using trigonometry, everyone is talking about how cool it is but I haven’t been able to find anyone actually explaining the proof
@matt_the_musician
@matt_the_musician Жыл бұрын
Wow! This is fascinating! As a photographer, I know the long side of an 8 MP picture has 3264 pixels, so that's somewhere else that number shows up! 😀👍🏼
@sparkie4212
@sparkie4212 Жыл бұрын
Man, the Numberphile animations have come a long way...
@wiserhinoceros
@wiserhinoceros Жыл бұрын
Loved this - such a clear explanation of ideas in Algebraic Geometry!
@guessundheit6494
@guessundheit6494 Жыл бұрын
When will there be a video on the new mathematical proof by two US students, Calcea Johnson and Ne’Kiya Jackson? They proved the Indian sum of squares theory (x^2 + y^2 = z^2) using triogonmetry, the first people to do it. They're in high school.
@Mikey_AK_12
@Mikey_AK_12 Жыл бұрын
This video was incredibly interesting, and I feel like the title and thumbnail don't do it justice - I could care less about a random integer sequence, but a story about quadratics and the fundamental theorem of algebra? That's definitely something I want to watch!
@xenmaifirebringer552
@xenmaifirebringer552 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, conic curves and anything with a graphical representation feel more appealing to me than random integers
@bhardwajsatyam
@bhardwajsatyam Жыл бұрын
At 15:32, "Sottile" turns to "Sotille" for a few frames!
@mtranchi
@mtranchi Жыл бұрын
Does that ironing board in his office have a story behind it?
@asheep7797
@asheep7797 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it was used for ironing.
@mtranchi
@mtranchi Жыл бұрын
@@asheep7797 Lol, standard slapstick humor. Kudos :)
@colinwood9717
@colinwood9717 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't stop staring at it!
@KyleDB150
@KyleDB150 Жыл бұрын
He mentions at the end that the "theory of excess intersections" plays a role in physics, anyone know where that is?
@maxreenoch1661
@maxreenoch1661 Жыл бұрын
8:56 is meant to have (y - b)^2 for anyone wondering
@topilinkala1594
@topilinkala1594 Жыл бұрын
All the books in highschool that had conics gave them as solution to ax^2 + by^2 + cxy + dx +ey + f = 0. That is six coefficients. The cross term xy was missing in this and my understanding is that it gives the tilt of the non symmetrical conics. Eg. you can alwas using just rotation of the axis change the co-ordinates so that the cross term disappears. But if you are talking about crossing points of conics I think you need to have it in there. Or can you actually write equations of two conics that have non-parallel axis in a co-ordinates where both equations do not have the cross term?
@JA-cn6vu
@JA-cn6vu Жыл бұрын
15:57 "Circles are circles. You know what they are. They're round." Wow! There's my profundity for the night. My brain is full! 🤣
@realcygnus
@realcygnus Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy an Eisenbud appearance.
@the_eternal_student
@the_eternal_student 4 ай бұрын
I think the questions will stay with me more than the answer: how many places does a line intersect a conic section, how many lines from a point are tangent to a circle,, at how many points does an ellipse intersect a circle, howv many circles are tangent to the inside of intereecting circles, etc.
@scottrs
@scottrs Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I have no idea what you’re talking bout but when that happens I still know more.
@OlivierMIEL
@OlivierMIEL Жыл бұрын
Why 5? Where did the xy term go?
@michaeltajfel
@michaeltajfel Жыл бұрын
Yes, the xy term should be included, but you can multiply all six constants by the same number, and you get the same conic. Thus there are really five constants to determine a conic.
@aceman0000099
@aceman0000099 Жыл бұрын
xy isn't a constant, so it can't be altered in the same way
@EebstertheGreat
@EebstertheGreat Жыл бұрын
@@michaeltajfel But what if the xy term has a coefficient of 0?
@ipudisciple
@ipudisciple Жыл бұрын
The right answer is that there are 6 parameters but only up to scaling. The equation is axx+byy+cxy+dx+ey+f=0, but replacing (a,b,c,d,e,f) by (ga,gb,gc,gd,ge,gf) has the same solution set, so we get 6-1=5 parameters. They simplified for presentation and you caught it.
@EebstertheGreat
@EebstertheGreat Жыл бұрын
@@ipudisciple That's still only true for nonzero g.
@nordicexile7378
@nordicexile7378 Жыл бұрын
Is there a reason that the general equation shown at 12:40 doesn't have an xy term? (ax^2 + by^2 + cx +dy + e) I have a vague memory that the xy term can be eliminated by rotating the coordinate plane, but it has been too long since I last looked at this stuff to remember for sure.
@landsgevaer
@landsgevaer Жыл бұрын
I think it is a mistake, or perhaps intentionally sweeping it under the rug, although the conclusion that there are 5 degrees of freedom in the parameters is still correct. Generally, ax²+bxy+cy²+dx+ey+f = 0 seems to have six, but if we multiply the entire thing by a (nonzero) number we get a *different* equation for the *same* conic, so that is overcounting one degree of freedom. Your own argument that you could rotate away the xy seems correct, but I would object that you then would get a different (rotated!) conic. Maybe somebody else has a better justification for the choice in the video...
@diniaadil6154
@diniaadil6154 Жыл бұрын
xy can be rewritten as 1/4 * [(x+y)^2- (x-y)^2]
@landsgevaer
@landsgevaer Жыл бұрын
@@diniaadil6154 Yeah, so that is a transformation to variables v=x+y and w=x-y, but if you do that, the x² and y² terms are going to reintroduce v*w terms, so you haven't (generally) lost the product term... Unfortunately, I think it is a bit more tricky than that.
@stevenmellemans7215
@stevenmellemans7215 Жыл бұрын
I also spotted it and I have no clue other than it is a mistake.
@DukeBG
@DukeBG Жыл бұрын
It can be eliminated by rotation, yes. Not just v=x+y and w=x-y, but a more generic-looking matrix
@TheIcy001
@TheIcy001 Жыл бұрын
Never clicked on a video so fast in my life! Saw the title and I just knew it would be David Eisenbud speaking, because of his book "3264 and All That" Side note, maybe a very small mistake: I computed the intersection of the hyperbola xy=1 and the degenerate conic xy=0 mentioned in 4:24 in projective space for fun, and I got 2 distinct points: [0:1:0] and [1:0:0]. So I don't think there's a tangency at infinity. Also there is a projective line at infinity, not a single point at infinity. Might have been a momentary confusion with the Riemann sphere which is usually used to compactify C^1, whereas the real projective plane is used to compactify R^2.
@issoroloap
@issoroloap Жыл бұрын
Hi! The point is that each of them is a double point (xy=0 and xy=z^2 gives xy=0 and z^2 =0, so the second equation gives twice the line at infinity). After all, as Eisenbud explained, you should expect 4 solutions in total, for the intersection of two conics. This is like a circle and an ellipse meeting at 4 points, or being tangent at 2 double points.
@TheIcy001
@TheIcy001 Жыл бұрын
@@issoroloap You’re right! I neglected the fact that there are 4 points of intersection of two conics counted with multiplicity. Furthermore I realized that I can see the tangency by the fact that the slope of the line joining the origin and the point on the curve (this is y/x) doesn’t change sign as you wrap around. However, I can still make the point that merely having slopes converge is not a sufficient geometric interpretation of tangency. That’s just saying they intersect at infinity. Maybe physical distance approaching 0 on the other hand is sufficient for tangency (for algebraic curves), but I haven’t worked that out yet
@KalenCarslaw
@KalenCarslaw Жыл бұрын
I need to go back and finish my Masters in Mathematics
Жыл бұрын
I love this guy.
@physmanir0
@physmanir0 Жыл бұрын
At 9:00 the video reads (x-a)^2 + (x-b)^2 = r^2, I think this is typo - of its circle it should say (x-a)^2 + (y-b)^2 = r^2, no?
@christopherellis2663
@christopherellis2663 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating: like a route map through space in the microcosm and the microcosm
@SaveSoilSaveSoil
@SaveSoilSaveSoil Жыл бұрын
This professor speaks so melodiously that I wonder whether he has a joint appointment at the music department.
@GGoAwayy
@GGoAwayy Жыл бұрын
The conic stuff will always conjure up Cliff Stoll's bread in my mind. What's going on with that ironing board?
@SurprisedDivingBoard-vu9rz
@SurprisedDivingBoard-vu9rz 5 ай бұрын
Hyperbole are a system of co-ordinates. Circle and ellipse inverse. Parabola parallel.
@Doktor_Vem
@Doktor_Vem Жыл бұрын
I love this guys voice so much, but I do wish he'd articulate his words a little more d:
@the_eternal_student
@the_eternal_student 4 ай бұрын
I think the way of classifying the intersecting points has to be more nuanced to make it intuitive. It is not how many times the objects intersect but what intersecting group they belong to even if they are different from the rest of the group. I.e. the line below the circle does not intersect it twice, but it belongs to the group that intersects the circle twice.
@macronencer
@macronencer Жыл бұрын
8:52 It should be y-b, not x-b.
@SportFury1966
@SportFury1966 Жыл бұрын
A voice that is a cross between Tommy Chong and the Ren & Stimpy singer of Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy. 'All the little creatures, maaaan.'
@adrianf.5847
@adrianf.5847 Жыл бұрын
Somewhere at about 3:37 the equations become weird. I think the guy means that (1 + a^2)x^2 + 2abx + b^2 -1 = 0 has either two complex solutions or one complex solution of multiplicity two.
@howardg2010
@howardg2010 Жыл бұрын
Quadratic from Latin for 'square', not Greek for 'two', though.
@CowboyRocksteady
@CowboyRocksteady Жыл бұрын
More eisenbud videos!!
@vincehomoki1612
@vincehomoki1612 Жыл бұрын
And another interesting thing about 3264: 32=2^5 64=2^6
@derderrr7220
@derderrr7220 Жыл бұрын
equidecient spheroidal points - love it!
@moss0964
@moss0964 Жыл бұрын
"well i wanna tell you about some numbers" fantastic! i love numbers
@SuperM789
@SuperM789 Жыл бұрын
at 1:44 the ellipse doesn't match with the formula below it. if x² is multiplied by 2, it should get skinnier, not flatten.
@doubledarefan
@doubledarefan Жыл бұрын
Slice a cone on the diagonal = Oval. Slice a cylinder on the diagonal = Ellipse.
@p23570
@p23570 Жыл бұрын
i'm a simple man, if i see numberphile posting a video of the bob ross of mathematicians, i watch the video and like it.
@GilesForrester
@GilesForrester Жыл бұрын
... that's the best use of an ironing board I've ever seen ...
@theimmux3034
@theimmux3034 Жыл бұрын
please make a video on the recently discovered aperiodic hat tiling
@ambassadorkees
@ambassadorkees Жыл бұрын
Cut through the top, and you get a triangle, or sharp corner, a special hyperbola
@Lattamonsteri
@Lattamonsteri Жыл бұрын
At what point does slicing a cone give me a parabola? :P There's a place where it it is an ellipse and then the other point when there's a clear parabola, but in between those two limits there's an area where the slice looks like an ellipse whose tip has been cut. Is there a name for that position where the slice starts resembling a proper parabola?
@embryonicsuperfemme
@embryonicsuperfemme Жыл бұрын
This would be easier to explain with a picture, but I'll try. He mentioned two degenerate conics: a single point x^2 = 0 and two lines (cut the cone in half). There is a third which is one line. If you take any point but the tip and draw a line to the tip you will have a line that runs along the side of the cone. You can imagine the cutting plane as just touching that line, like you were preparing to wrap the cone with it. Any plane parallel to that plane by pushing inwards will intersect with a parabola. Any deviation from this angle would either tip to ellipse or hyperbola.
@Lattamonsteri
@Lattamonsteri Жыл бұрын
@@embryonicsuperfemme i think i got it now, even without the picture :D thank you for your reply/explanation!
@fierydino9402
@fierydino9402 Жыл бұрын
Algebraic geometry looks very difficult. Is it really so? Or if I study step by step, can I smoothly follow the subject?
@moose9002
@moose9002 Жыл бұрын
I think "step-by-step" is the key word here. Algebraic geometry requires fairly broad background to really get into, however, this background material is often best understood knowing how it used in algebraic geometry! Commutative algebra is certainly the biggest culprit in this regard. From my experience of learning the subject (which is admittedly not so much, but this is consistent with what more experienced people have told me) what really helps is the willingness to revisit things with the new perspectives you gained. I don't think there is any need to be intimidated, just read what you find interesting, and fill in the background as you need it. Eventually you'll learn a lot!
@henrikmunch8609
@henrikmunch8609 Жыл бұрын
How come there is no x*y hyperbola term in the general conic equation at 11:48?
@josephang9927
@josephang9927 Жыл бұрын
It's kind of wild how abstract concepts can make a book and for a family 😊
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 Жыл бұрын
I would love to know if there's a simple explanation for where the number 3,264 comes from? We know 2^3 = 8 and 6^5 = 7,776 but how do we get to 3,264?
@theflaggeddragon9472
@theflaggeddragon9472 Жыл бұрын
Intersection theory on moduli spaces. There's not a simple explanation
@soyoltoi
@soyoltoi Жыл бұрын
​@@theflaggeddragon9472 What is the expression of the number given by that theory?
@theflaggeddragon9472
@theflaggeddragon9472 Жыл бұрын
​@@soyoltoi I am no expert in enumerative geometry (I barely know basic algebraic geometry), but after skimming the relevant section, here's what I can say. The space of plane conics (as Eisenbud indicated in the video) is 5-dimensional; in fact it is P^5 (projective 5-space). This means the parameters are unrestricted and have no nontrivial relations (no two equations ax^2 + by^2 + cx+dy + e with different coefficients are isomorphic. Given a plane conic C, it's _dual_ C^* is the set of tangent lines, a smooth conic in the dual projective plane (space of lines in projective plane). The difficulty in narrowing 6^5 = 7776 to 3264 comes down to casting out "degenerations" of conics (double lines and such, as Eisenbud mentioned). This is technical and requires working on a _compactified_ moduli space of conics. This is the closure of the space of usual conics C in P^5. In fact, we take pairs (C,C^*) in P^5 x (P^5)^* and take the closure in there. We call this space X. Fix five general place conics C_,i, i = 1,...,5. The space of tangent conics in X is a hypersurface of degree 6. As mentioned in the video, taking a naive intersection gives a count of 6^5. The issue is the degenerate intersections occurring on the boundary of X. Now there is an object called the "Chow ring" A(X) = direct sum A^i(X), essentially formal integral sums of subvarieties of X modulo an equivalence relation. The A^i(X) encodes varieties of codimension i in X. Algebra in this ring allows us to compute intersections and many other things in algebraic geometry. On the open subset of smooth conics U in X, the hypersurface Z of conics tangent to a given conic has degree 6 (mentioned in the video). Let a,b in A^1(X) be pullbacks to X in P^5 x (P^5)^* of hyperplane classes on P^5 x (P^5)^*, and c,d in A^4(X) be classes of curves that are pulled back from general lines in (P^5)x(P^5)^*. One cna show that A^1(X) is generated by a,b over the integers. Take an equivalence class [Z] containing the hypersurfaces we want to intersect. The degree of its 5th power tells us the number of intersections (this is the point of working with Chow rings). Hypersurfaces lie in A^1(X), and it's free part has rank 2, so you can write [Z] = pa + qb for some p,q in Q and x,y forming a basis for A^1(X) (tensor Q). From basic properties of degree, you can show that [Z] = 2a + 2b in fact. Hence deg[Z]^5 = 32 deg(a+b)^5. So its enough to calculate the degree of a^ib^(5-i) for each i = 0 ,..,5. By symmetry, enough to do for i = 0,1,2. The calculations with explanation are on page 307-308 of 3264 and all that. All in all, you get deg([Z]^5) = 2^5deg(a+b)^5 = 2^5(5C0 + 2(5C1) + 4(5C2) + 4(5C3) + 2(5C4) + 5C5) = 2^5 * 102 = 3264. Reply
@adamcetinkent
@adamcetinkent Жыл бұрын
​@@theflaggeddragon9472 Blimey. That's what we get for asking questions! 😂
@viliml2763
@viliml2763 Жыл бұрын
​@@theflaggeddragon9472 "no two equations ax^2 + by^2 + cx+dy + e with different coefficients are isomorphic" ax^2 + by^2 + cx+dy + e and k(ax^2 + by^2 + cx+dy + e) have different coefficients but are isomorphic the issue is forgetting the sixth, xy term
@profdimateonline
@profdimateonline Жыл бұрын
Hi! Beautiful channel 👍
@curtiswfranks
@curtiswfranks Жыл бұрын
Someone should formalize those shaving methods. There is no way that they worked so consistently without something going on there.
@shruggzdastr8-facedclown
@shruggzdastr8-facedclown Жыл бұрын
(@10:07): First, we had Parker Squares -- now, we have Eisenbud Circles!
@jazzlover06
@jazzlover06 Жыл бұрын
3:46 should be x^2 not x
@karthik_pushparaju
@karthik_pushparaju Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who caught it.
@Gna-rn7zx
@Gna-rn7zx Жыл бұрын
Fascinating!
@sumdumbmick
@sumdumbmick Жыл бұрын
it's not necessary for the slice to be parallel to the central axis to get a hyperbola. if it were it would mean that there's another type of conic section between the parabola and hyperbola. so it's curious that absolutely nobody postulates the existence of such a thing, and yet most people assert that a hyperbola arises when the cut is taken parallel to the axis of the cone. these are the actual conditions for getting the conic sections: circle - if the slice is perpendicular to the axis of the cone ellipse - if the slice is between perpendicular to the axis and parallel w/ the wall of the cone parabola - if the slice is parallel with the wall hyperbola - if the slice is between parallel with the wall and parallel with the axis you should learn to say things correctly, since it reduces the amount of gaslighting that students have to deal with to figure out wtf you're trying to communicate.
@sumdumbmick
@sumdumbmick Жыл бұрын
also, a proper 'cone' has six lobes. most of the ones you depict have 1, and only for the hyperbola do you finally show the classic 2. but if you use the correct number, 6, then your slices correctly illustrate all of the relationships which occur between conic sections. it's quite nice. and it also demonstrates very elegantly how thoroughly fubar modern philosophy of mathematics really is.
@sumdumbmick
@sumdumbmick Жыл бұрын
@3:54 the 2 imaginary solutions here are on the hyperbola. they're imaginary here because the lobe of the cone that the hyperbola slices is on an axis perpendicular to the lobe sliced by the circle. why wouldn't you just mention that? or did you just not know about this?
@sumdumbmick
@sumdumbmick Жыл бұрын
this isn't controversial, either. it's literally how Special Relativity works. the curve of the relationship between t and t' is circular for vc. this is why tachyons would require energy inputs not to accelerate.
@sumdumbmick
@sumdumbmick Жыл бұрын
the other closure of the parabola occurs at the same exact spot as the vertex you have. it just looks like a mirrored copy of the parabola you drew. there is nothing happening at infinity. that's nonsense. for the hyperbola you showed, there is no contact between the y-axis and the hyperola at y = +inf. the hyperbola reaches a height of +inf when x is the successor to 0, which contrary to Peano, is not 1. but this successor is a value that we use all the time without understanding it, since it's absolutely required for evaluating limits. when you do something like: lim x->0+ 1/x = +inf you obviously can't evaluate at x=0, because division by 0 is undefinable. further, we know this function is discontinuous, since for x0 we get a positive branch that grows in magnitude as we approach 0. so, when we take this limit and say that it gives us positive infinity, what we did is we evaluated it at the successor to 0. which I will notate as L(0). now, you can trivially see that L(0), 0 and -L(0) are completely distinct values, because 1/L(0) = +inf, 1/0 is undefinable, and 1/-L(0) = -inf. your hyperbola reaches L(0), and when it does its height is the largest possible infinity that exists, but it does not reach 0. and thus it is simply nonsense to claim that it touches the vertical asymptote, x=0, at y = infinity.
@sumdumbmick
@sumdumbmick Жыл бұрын
it's hilarious to hear someone speak of rigor in mathematics when it's been known for 92 years that modern mathematics cannot possibly be rigorous. Incompleteness demonstrates that your assumptions about how mathematics works are wrong, and yet you just carry on acting as if that never happened... ok, but when that's the choice you make, you don't get to speak of rigor.
@JavierSalcedoC
@JavierSalcedoC Жыл бұрын
32 x 102 and 32 x 243
@Marktewk
@Marktewk Жыл бұрын
Yes, but why the ironing board?
@alexandermitrofanov1327
@alexandermitrofanov1327 Жыл бұрын
Employer: shows me the graph of the salary growth Me: but it never reaches the value we agreed on Employer: oh it does, it does! but the point is imaginary
@animeking5068
@animeking5068 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys can you please update the viewcount of the 301 video
@phizc
@phizc Жыл бұрын
I'm not a mathematician, and I really don't get this.. How will y=x² meet up again and be tangent at infinity? That would mean that the square root of y would be 0 at high enough values for y, wouldn't it? At least *sqrt(+inf)* = 0..? Thinking about it a bit more, thinking of the parabola as a conic section, if the cone has a bottom plane, they would indeed meet up again - as straight lines, so those would be tangent to the bottom plane, i.e. "infinity", though it would also "work" with a finite sized cone, it just have to be "closed". The way it's drawn at 4:46 would imply the cone has a convexly curved "bottom" though, with a "tangent transition" between the cone and the curve part. Otherwise there would be a "corner".. Anyway, I can't get the math to work with just y=x², but maybe it works with the ax² + by² + cx + dy + e formula..
@_ilsegugio_
@_ilsegugio_ Жыл бұрын
my grandson's grandson is gonna find this trivial
@wbfaulk
@wbfaulk Жыл бұрын
Professor Eisenbud's speech patterns remind me of Floyd the barber from _The Andy Griffith Show._
@jpgsawyer
@jpgsawyer Жыл бұрын
Very cool but here is an idea. Are there points in the plane that are not on a tangent to the n conics and is there a way to determine if you are on such a point?
@leefisher6366
@leefisher6366 Жыл бұрын
10:17 - Funny, I always thought they were Parker Circles.
@Drachenbauer
@Drachenbauer Жыл бұрын
is a tilted cut through a cone really a perfect ellipse? I mean, at the higher end of the cut, the curvature of the cone´s surface narrower and at the lower end whider.
@razielhamalakh9813
@razielhamalakh9813 Жыл бұрын
You'd think, right? That's actually a common question. Turns out, because the cut approaches the wider part of the cone at a shallower angle, the section is in fact a perfectly symmetric ellipse. It is counterintuitive, I'll grant you.
@romainhaym747
@romainhaym747 Жыл бұрын
So… What’s the deal with the decorated ironing board???
@storytimewithunclekumaran5004
@storytimewithunclekumaran5004 Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@mofeyTEA
@mofeyTEA Жыл бұрын
why there is no xy term in quadratic formula?
@nickush7512
@nickush7512 Жыл бұрын
Facinating !! Thanks :)
@justarandomdood
@justarandomdood Жыл бұрын
19:00 bit of a typo/misspoken fact? (x-a)²+(y-b)² not (x-b)², right?
@michaelfahie4228
@michaelfahie4228 Жыл бұрын
1:37 my brain came to a crashing halt when he showed that graph and said xy =1. The graph is incorrect and the equation is not a quadratic. I’m sure it’s a trivial error. Can someone tell me what the equation is supposed to be?
@michaelfahie4228
@michaelfahie4228 Жыл бұрын
I kept watching and realize that it’s the graph that was weird, not the equation
@ravis1577
@ravis1577 Жыл бұрын
Translation to written words scroll is not helping full screen view. Pls do something
@alan2here
@alan2here Жыл бұрын
Does this include x^2 + y^2 = 0?
@willnewman9783
@willnewman9783 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but it should be thought of as being over the complex numbers, so it is more than just the origin.
@lawrencecalablaster568
@lawrencecalablaster568 Жыл бұрын
How can he just say that two things which don’t intersect are intersecting, or that one point is two?
@sloppycee
@sloppycee Жыл бұрын
When does a parabola curve back on itself? Like, what??
@DukeEllision329
@DukeEllision329 Жыл бұрын
Can someone further explain why a line tangent to a circle goes through two points?
@MeOnStuff
@MeOnStuff Жыл бұрын
It's not that it goes through two points (it only intersects the circle at a single point). It's that if you solve the underlying equations you get a repeated root. It's the same as, say, the equation x^2 = 0. This has one solution (x=0), but through the fundamental theorem of algebra we know every degree n polynomial has n roots: we can write it as a*(x-c_1)(x-c_2)...(x-c_n) = 0, where the c_i are complex numbers. So for x^2 = 0 this gives (x - 0)(x - 0) = 0. The c_i are, collectively, the roots, so in this example we have the roots 0 and 0 i.e. a repeated root at x = 0. The solutions are just the roots listed without repeats (without multiplicity, to use the maths term for it). Hope that helps.
@anon-fo3id
@anon-fo3id Жыл бұрын
can't you cut a cone and get a triangle?
@Nethershaw
@Nethershaw Жыл бұрын
Woof. Is there any way to visualize the complex solutions that makes any sense? It's difficult to imagine tangency between two curves in the real plane that involves the complex plane. Do you need a three-dimensional projection to show such a thing?
@GGoAwayy
@GGoAwayy Жыл бұрын
Turn the paper 90 degrees so you can't see the front or the back and are looking at it edge on... the circle and the line are overlapping in that dimension?
@lawrencecalablaster568
@lawrencecalablaster568 Жыл бұрын
I… I don’t understand at all, but I’m along for the ride.
@adrianf.5847
@adrianf.5847 Жыл бұрын
By the way: Gauß was awesome, but his "proof" of the fundamental theorem of algebra contained a gap. Only Jean-Robert Argand gave a complete proof. (Gauß did find the Tukey--Cooley algorithm 150 years before Tukey and Cooley. In general, some mathematicians are rightly considered great mathematicians, but their achievements are being confused in rather arbitrary fashion.)
@adrianf.5847
@adrianf.5847 Жыл бұрын
Actually, the proof by Argand seems to use an incomplete infinite descent argument, which I believe would need some sort of Weierstrass theorem or ODE method to work. So I don't even know who first proved this theorem.
@PushyPawn
@PushyPawn Жыл бұрын
So many things went over my head that I now have a new haircut.
@JavSusLar
@JavSusLar Жыл бұрын
11:39 why don't you invite to the party the term xy?
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