THE INFINITE AND THE DIVINE | Warhammer 40k Bookclub ft.

[@NUMBSKULLS]

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[@Dracobyte]

Thanks for the book club special stream!

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Amazing work as always guys!

[@thewerdna]

I terms of timeline the book ends in current 40k. Since in the Fall of Cadia book, Trazyn mentions he left Orikan buried on the planet. So the finale is post fall of Cadia

[@gatordragon6140]

Wait trazyn really just went "see yah" and fucking left orikan underground? I smell a future book idea lol

[@thecreature456]

No he comes back later in the book​@@gatordragon6140

[@evanmann3447]

@@gatordragon6140 if you didnt read the book, orikan re-emerges at the ending

[@gatordragon6140]

@@evanmann3447 see even more future book bait, i feel like orikan is none too happy about trazyn ditching him there after all and from what i have read orikan can really hold a grudge lol

[@chiefsurgeon533]

The whole fact they were on a timeframe to open the tomb at all is ALL BECAUSE Trazyn pranked Orikan is absolutely funny

[@PsyCrowX]

I would bet quite a lot that Robert Rath knew exactly what he was doing. He is part of the Extra History channel and does not seem like the type to accidentally roommates.

[@thewerdna]

Was also going to say this. Also that you could probably ask him on social media and there would be a pretty good chancr he'd respond

[@gatordragon6140]

Probably the worst part of getting nabbed by trazyn isnt "oh get in the time cube and never come out" its "get in the time cube and every time i wake you up you'll get tossed into the arena or some random hellish situation but dont worry about ever dying i have really good medics"

[@Umbragecko]

funny enough trazyn can make his ``stasis-cube`` capture you in stasis and making it so that you are fully aware of the time passing.

[@ivanivan744]

"Don't worry about ever dying" and the next time you 'wake up' you have an entirely new arm sewn on from a person you will never know...hopefully

[@gatordragon6140]

@@Umbragecko god thanks thats even more terrifying

[@gatordragon6140]

@@ivanivan744 not even a new arm from someone else, with nekron tech its more like your arm was never gone in the first place no?

[@ivanivan744]

@@gatordragon6140 It's just a joke about how Trazyn doesn't really care that much about specificities. It doesn't matter if you're from the third company or the fifth, or if you served a thousand years before the battle diorama; He'll make do with what he has

[@popecorkyxxiv2363]

To me the book read like the 90s movie Grumpy Old Men which makes the fact they are still pranking each other at the end very appropriate.

[@jacemoran1190]

Yo, Paige is coming along, now her and Pat just need to make some warhammer stuff. Can’t wait to listen in tho.

[@ayzekpie9432]

This book was such a revelation to me. I would never have thought that necron, of all creatures, would be so deeply and heartbreakingly concerned about the harm to nature and culture (which are the same thing). Trazin is an OC that I've always dreamed of creating, but lacked the skill. He is ideal, seriously interested in preserving and cataloging history and biology, at the same time he is ready and does not hesitate to drag away everything that is not nailed to the floor (and what is nailed will drag away with the floor). The greatest loot rat.

[@TheGallantDrake]

I hope you don't let a lack of skill dissuade you. The only way to gain skill is to practice, and you only write a character as good as Trazyn by first writing a LOT of cringe characters lol

[@djsmith9365]

I love old man yaoi

[@narrow7091]

Shit, I was gonna say that.

[@djsmith9365]

@@narrow7091 fun fact, I was literally the first comment on the video

[@narrow7091]

fastest hands in the west

[@RingStudios]

PEACH CROSSOVER EPISODE

[@Dracobyte]

Let's gooo!

[@elocnkmab3977]

Yall need to cover the twice dead king books. They're more necron centric books that really go into how the necron dynasties function and interact with each other.

[@TheGibbie]

You know, i wondered what paige saw in pat... "i find fallout out ghouls attractive" well that piece just fell into place.

[@RichardX1]

Now I imagine these two Necrons as the main characters of this British sitcom I've seen clips of: "Vicious"

[@bp92221]

Ayy mt favourite Poly Queer relation ship around warhammer is talking about my favourite Poly Queer relationship IN warhammer

[@theepicmagikarp9621]

I really like how the Genestealers where set up. Starts as a prank, and Okiram cuts off the Stealer's arm and subtly the story of the Trickster King appears in the planet. It evolves and evolves until you get to the point where you get Hybrids that are hypnotic to watch, and then Boom. Genestealer Uprising. Super cool

[@entei7958]

Trazyn we are gay gay trazyn

[@Blandy8521]

For those who love Infinite & the Divine I'd like to recommend a fanfic called *The Silence and the Storm by Ghost_in_the_Gallery*

[@Dracobyte]

Thanks for the great guest! I hope that sonnday Pat does a collaboration with you guys.

[@Frddy_-sh8so]

we are truly divining and collecting here

[@joshuawhiffin8886]

My favourite thing about the book is that everything bad that happens is Trayzins fault and very directly so

[@LorccanHuaConchobair]

Holy !@#$, that holodeck idea could be incredible - it wouldn't do much for the rest of 40K, it would just be a sideshow, but there's SO much fun that could be had with that.

[@MrKullumanati1]

Big Wa for Peachsaliva

[@MrStarWarsCollector]

The siege of Vraks. The Korps demands (very politely asks) that you read it next.

[@techpriestc5833]

I cannot stress it enough: "Severed" IS warhammer romance

[@sassythesasquatch9627]

Damn, I’m 2 hours late, I missed the notification. Thanks for the 2hr vid. I see you and raise you one ‘cya in the previous one Ava’ (I’m catching up rn). Always happy to hear from Kari regarding 40k, especially as it’s been akin to introducing many of my friends and gf to it. Glad to hear from the amazing Alexpert. And cheers for the intro to Paige

[@axelmaldonado2642]

Spoilers Old man gets catfished, drags his friend along, you won't believe what happens next

[@evanmann3447]

awesome to finally see! hope yall are feeling better for your holidays, i've been looking forwards to this since it was announced

[@Historyfrek4ever]

In fairness to humanity: they wouldn’t be in this situation if their robots didn’t rebel, exponential rise in psykers appearing and FTL travel having become impossible for few thousands years, followed by a rebellion that devastated the imperium when it was relative enlightened causing it to back pedal hard. Now the first three are out right eldars fault, including the rebellion of the men of iron if certain theories are true. The last point they had a hand in when some of them and some others decided they could make humanity self destruct and starve chaos. Aka use humanity as a sacrificial lamb to fix a problem they let fester/caused, depending on how you look at it. I am not excusing humanity’s failures, but eldar and necrons are not faultless in all of this.

[@Scowleasy]

Necrontyr society was already messed up, and we see how stunted Necron emotions are after losing their souls. I’m hesitant to even say they’re capable of having romantic feelings in general anymore

[@WolfBoy-om6dw]

I haven't read The Infinite and The Divine but I'm pretty sure people, who haven't read the book will get something out of this video regardless.

[@jackmack4181]

1:08:29 my favorite enemy scene is Trazyn vs the naval Gargant. 1: it has Trazyn leading the charge, which is a first for him. 2: a mech boy tries to warn the pilots of the Gargant but one of the guide wires literally cut him in half 3: Trazyn uses the orks blind fury against the orks, causing them to tip their own boat

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

What a great gues you had on this video!

[@Gunthersby]

This book taught me the real tragedy of necrons is they can't kiss

[@topherrobeson4446]

I thought I already watched the Poorhammer book club episode... Oh wait!!!

[@jackmack4181]

1:10:52 In Ghazghkull there’s a scene where Ghazghkull loses his heart in the fight (metaphorically), and it affected the whole ork force in small ways. Fuel and bullets ran out faster, ork tells weren’t as loud, and many other ways

[@KeroHiro-Lil]

The best 40K learning couple talking about the best 40K couple. I’m seeing all the parallels here and it screams, future couple’s cosplay

[@Blahblahdo]

I just looked up flesh and steel and remembered what part of it I knew and I gotta say… the wheel was quite mean to Kari.

[@RealmForge100]

I need this book to be a movie with the cast of Good Omens

[@knight0fsnails710]

Trazyn try to steal guilliman

[@gingergrant1057]

Nurgle blessed you, hence your tardiness. All is forgiven.

[@Spinachglad992]

This was the first Warhammer book I read and I’m so glad I did it’s definitely one of my favorites

[@supercrab221]

If we got an I&D sequel they would almost certainly be fighting each other because of the necron civil war going on in current lore between the Sautekh dynasty (Orikan’s dynasty) versus the Szarekhan and Nihilakh dynasties (the silent king and Trazyns dynasties)

[@modredastal1644]

Thanks to Kari my nickname for Guilliman is Blue Canoe.

[@thedorklord1029]

Wow I finished the book last night. How convenient!

[@rockhardgaming120]

I read this book completely differently they seemed like coworkers that do different jobs at the same company like architects and engineers but they respect how good the other is at their job. That being said they definitely take things too far a lot and anyone else who worked with them would just kinda get used to one of them getting punched every once in awhile

[@narrow7091]

Exactly, what the guy above me said. Or below me, idk.

[@supremefankai5480]

A few people still aren't happy about the Necrons becoming Tomb Kings in SPACE but it's this kind of story that shows how awesome the faction is.

[@Kantohammer]

Get well soon! Love you guys

[@tylereaton3500]

I have never heard of trench crusade and I saw the art in the video and just went down a wild rabbit hole

[@NUMBSKULLS]

We’re excited to get our video out covering the basics of the setting!

[@tylereaton3500]

@@NUMBSKULLS well im excited to hear you all talk about it

[@Kerbtree]

For anyone who wants a 'nid perspective, Adrian Tchaikovsky did a book from their POV: the long and hungry road.

[@BlackfootFerret]

I read the book! Time to rock!

[@CLOWN6145]

zahndrekh I believe is inspired by the authors experience with a family member with dementia

[@RedHairAleks]

Nice start to a Book Club. You definitely should try "Assassinorum Kingmaker" by Robert Rath. Really good book.

[@quandrius92]

Merry christmas u all 🎅

[@CLOWN6145]

Talking about this makes it sound like the series vicious but in space

[@feralprocessor9853]

Straight away, my condolences about your past afflictions.

[@feralprocessor9853]

Right off the bat, dem shaders 😎

[@DeMause]

I really hope you get around to doing Day of Ascension on your book review some day. Maybe add it to your wheel after you do the Genestealer cults episode of Explaining Warhammer.

[@ebanker1]

A good next series for a book club is guants ghosts first and only

[@samankucher5117]

i didn't get a notification for this but oddly enough i got the fulgrim vid on my feed and i jad to check out if there are any new vids :)

[@hihello476]

A Trazyn and Orikan 18+ book would just be the two Arguing about who is the top

[@AubergineMan.]

13:36 this genuinely made me stop walking for a good 2 minutes That's my old Xbox 360 name

[@seanbrennan5469]

i didnt read this , but im at work where I listen to audio books , there's just way to many 40k books got into it because my favorite liveing scifi writer Adrian Tchaikovsky did one

[@dinodude6992]

Hearing Trazyn and Orikan being called an old gay couple was unexpected, and you know what? I can understand where you folks were coming from, and I can accept that as one interpretation of their dynamic. Also, I just wanna say, the moments where you folks were shouting the authors name startled me while I was listening to this the other night as I was drawing something meme related, because I share a first name with the author of the infinite and the divine, so thanks for startling me! I hope you're happy with that feat!

[@thewerdna]

I mean, I am a straight man and I am utterly convinced the two are seconds away from an old married couple argument about the thermostat.

[@poxrael]

Can you guys list out the book recommendations you had at the end?

[@NUMBSKULLS]

The War in the Museum- Robert Rath The Bleeding Stars - Robert Rath Severed - Nate Crowley The Twice Dead King: Ruin (followed by Reign) - Nate Crowley Devourer - Joe Parrino

[@ronnocrex1290]

1:04:24 im very sorry to say but this inquisitor is dead. In the fall of cadia book, Grayfax tells Trazyn that she killed his inquisitor penpal 😭😭

[@NUMBSKULLS]

NOOOOOO

[@Deer-Sonas-Incorporated]

so is NUMBSKULLS poly or no i’m confused???

[@KarilynneDavies]

Yep! Alex, Ava and I are a little nerdy polycule 💕

[@Deer-Sonas-Incorporated]

@ huh, awesome! props to you and gang for making it work!

[@DigiMatt52]

New Jork Report dropped.

[@SeanCrosser]

Heck yeah Paige is here!!

[@RatoKingo]

Old robot yaoi was one of the best things to get my gf into WH40K

[@feralprocessor9853]

First time for me getting to know Page. Sup 👋

[@gothicpando]

Check your house for black mold. Getting continuously sick is a sign of that...sorry if that scares ya a bit.

[@NUMBSKULLS]

Ava here! No, I just travelled to Canada to visit Kari and Alex and definitely caught a bad cold on the way. Kari was sick with another cold before I brought mine haha. We’re recovering though!!

[@charizardgamez447]

very good time

[@gothicpando]

Wonder what they named their disabled dog? Hope it was Elbows.

[@NUMBSKULLS]

His name is Caboose!!!

[@entei7958]

Pov take trazyn on tytanick direcktor cut extended edition

[@mra4521]

@2:11:00 I hate that theory. Gives me too many flashbacks to the Star Wars Sequels in the worst ways.

[@Spyders-y2g]

If you enjoyed this warhammer Yaoi, might i suggest you take a look at some warhammer yuri with the "our martyred lady" audiobook?

[@UNION_JACK_THE_RIPPER]

The amount of times i was like "JUST KISS ALREADY." While listening to that was idiotic

[@duncanmckelvey5602]

To the romance sequel thing Black library’s abbreviation is literally BL

[@real9270]

remember stereo coke in his nose?

[@RougeMephilesClone]

This is not my own opinion, but I want to lightly push back against The Infinite and The Divine being the perfect gateway 40k book. A little while ago, I found a book club podcast that has nothing to do with Warhammer. While the hosts didn't dislike the book, they felt like it didn't explore its most interesting sci-fi concepts beyond the surface level. The final battle being a fanservice fest with all da' boys you recognize was also a turn-off, since not even being at gateway watched-one-video standing with 40k means that part does nothing for you. Although I am not an expert on any Warhammer books, from what I've heard, the Twice-Dead King line may actually be more palatable for an outsider audience. Just based on things I've heard, though.

[@MrMoustaffa]

Theres a lot of good 40k books. Theres not a lot of good books that happen to be about 40k. Infinite and Divine is one of the latter.

[@Alucard_Ander]

I ship Tazyn and Orikan so much

[@games-wz7sz]

Ew, trench crusade mentioned. Mark my words "world War, but it's Christian holy crusades" sounds like the loudest dog whistle. I don't like the nazi wargame

[@sotbs2641]

I will assume good faith and reassure you that the creators have done a lot of work to eject the sort of people who would project that mindset on the game. They're in it for the imagery and alternate history, not for the tradcath fanwank or whatever. The alt/neo nazis who once celebrated that game have entirely changed their tune on it despite its success, because the creators told them to gtfo

[@NUMBSKULLS]

Luckily the developers of Trench Crusade have been very vocal they do not want piece of shit nazis as part of their fanbase and told them to gtfo this isn’t their weird power fantasy.

[@games-wz7sz]

@NUMBSKULLS I'm glad they have

[@damyio674]

As i remember trench crusade had some toxic rumors about itself... And as german i find it really terrible that everybody screams "nazi" nowadays, it loses its threat and only plays in the hands of such people. I know the Left needs such boogiemans but please dont normalise such things.

[@NUMBSKULLS]

@damyio674 If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it’s a duck, dude.

[@knightoftrousers6407]

"3211-1545-4131-5322" "Do not be deceived" absolutely fucked me up! I actually paused the audiobook and doubled over in shock for a moment