NUNCHUCKS, but BETTER!

Does combining two hammers together, create a more effective (or deadly) nunchuck?
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[@Punched_Kuze]

"From the moment I understood the weakness of nunchucks, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of sticks.”

[@rhivan6921]

"and the frail string you consider so useful will tear and you will try to fix it. But my stick is already fixed. For the Stick is immemorial"

[@ProcyonDei]

"Even in death I serve the Shadissiah..."

[@ginnyjollykidd]

This is a good reason bartenders have a baseball bat under the bar. A good ash or maple bat would do well. A Louisville Slugger, please. Oooh! Make a nunchucks out of two souvenir bats! The short ones about half the length of a professional bat. You can get them with famous signatures on them like Ernie Banks or Ralph Garr. Companies put their logos on them to hand out. I got one from a company picnic one year.

[@kelvinsantiago7061]

"Your kind clings to your Nunchucks as if they will not break and fail you"

[@ASpaceOstrich]

Even in death, I serve as two sticks. Stick win every time.

[@HexenProzess]

They rediscovered the Flail, but with a worse handle

[@TheMelnTeam]

That's what I was thinking too. You don't need a hammer on the other end...make the handle a little longer...and hey! A situationally viable weapon! That people thought about over a millennia ago, but still!

[@koljaleffek7290]

i thought morningstar in bad, but basically the same line of thought

[@fadingjedi]

A true fail is probably better

[@preachrem7182]

Double sided flail or morning stars xD

[@lml55]

Nunchucku are not Flails, they were used in Self Defense and never built to kill Also unlike a Flail, you can hold both sticks and grapple an enemy really easily as you catch their sword or hammer with the middle and easily control the fight from there

[@RedDragon412]

I understand why this is coming out now: You had to wait for Shad to be half a world away in order to get away with bringing Nunchucks into work.

[@marthahawkinson-michau9611]

For real.

[@duffthimblespork]

"The only way to make nunchucks more dangerous to your opponent is to make them more dangerous to yourself." -a rare Confucius/Sun Tzu collab

[@TheWhyme01]

Nunchucks can cause concussions

[@EpicRandomness555]

Not having enough handle for the Mjölnirs is actually ironically hilarious

[@dux5525]

Loki messed with the forging process and made the handle too small for Thor to use with both hands.

[@somerando1073]

Thematically on point.

[@Grandwigg]

I guess they couldn't handle a real weapon? XD

[@ASpaceOstrich]

@@dux5525 This actually raises the question. Is there any efficacy to swinging a mjolnir style hammer by the pommel strap?

[@yokai1235]

@@ASpaceOstrich kinda is like a flail you are getting more acceleration but sacrificing kinetic force in the process

[@lemonlefleur6236]

Everyone loves to hate on the Nunchucks but no one ever has the decency to pay their respects to the brave Nuns who chucked.

[@grahck4391]

Sooo ... How many nuns could chuck nunchucks if nunchucking nuns could chuck nunchucks?

[@lemonlefleur6236]

@@grahck4391 100% of them, as they’re all “nunchuncking Nuns” and thus would all be capable of chucking nunchucks

[@lml55]

Nunchucku are not Flails, they were used in Self Defense and never built to kill Also unlike a Flail, you can hold both sticks and grapple an enemy really easily as you catch their sword or hammer with the middle and easily control the fight from there

[@TheEternalPheonix]

@@grahck4391 How many nuns could a nun-Chuck chuck, if a nun-Chuck could chuck nuns? Note: Chuck makes for a really odd looking nun!

[@billcynic1815]

Ok, but have you considered...chainsaw chucks?

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

Yes I have and I would tell you that you must not value having any arms.

[@mattw6705]

We goin wacky? How about bowling ball chucks

[@TheSteam02]

(Chainsaw Man OP plays)

[@BaileygaskellGaskell]

Someone get hold of the prop departments for mad max I think there is someone they need to talk to

[@MinnesotaCouchpotato]

Chainsaws are pretty cool, but there's no beating... GOPHER CHUCKS!

[@carrott36]

One problem with dum-chucks - they’re still worse than a hammer on a stick.

[@mr.cauliflower3536]

I mean, they're easier to conceal

[@minhducnguyen9276]

​@@mr.cauliflower3536 That's the whole point of it. Shad is just trying to force the nunchuck to perform the roles that it isn't meant to do.

[@soup-flavored-soup6613]

@@minhducnguyen9276smacking people?

[@pavelmorozov6599]

@@mr.cauliflower3536 how ? one hammer is easier to conceal than 2 hammers tied together.

[@mr.cauliflower3536]

@@pavelmorozov6599But you get much better reach and mechanical advantage

[@TornadoCreator]

So what you've established is, Nunchucks are still awful and are just a broken stick, but the Light Flail was actually a fairly usable weapon, albeit a bit unweildy. Great video, well done.

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

Would have liked to see the dumb-chuck vs a normal stick on the same targets under the same conditions myself - as the dumb-chuck clearly has still got control issues, durability is perhaps also going to remain a problem even with a more refined version. So to be 'Fairly useable' may be accurate, if you limit your targets to the brainless, not reactive targets that will sit there while you drill a new hole in the backup hammer. But actually calling them a weapon... For that title I think they would have to out damage the stick pretty substantially (which I really don't think they will). Against a resisting opponent getting a good hit in would be rather more challenging with the very short broken stick nature, so it would have to be a really really good hit. Ultimately the winning move is clearly to make it longer stick one side, heavy head the other, giving you some reach again. At which point you do just have a flail...

[@counterstrike89]

He hasn't established anything, because he doesn't know how to use nunchucks and he's using an old cumbersome style of chucks, there's different chucks, with different advantages, they like to not tell you that.

[@Niskirin]

@@counterstrike89 Oh please enlighten us, o disciple of Broken Sticks, what pray tell is the proper way to use a broken stick?

[@counterstrike89]

@@Niskirin I'll have to upload a video on it, but yes, most people do not understand how to fight with nunchucks, you have a lot of people flipping them, that's good, but its not the same thing as fighting with them. For a start, you use lighter wood, most of the performance chucks now you see people whipping around really fast, that's light thin wood, but its still a strong wood and will do damage. If you use, say a rattan or bamboo wood, its quite light, so its speed is going to be very fast when striking, but it won't break, very strong.

[@TornadoCreator]

@@counterstrike89 Sure, you keep telling yourself that you know the mystic art of the broken stick. The rest of us can see reality for what it is, and see these "weapons" for the weeb-only novelties they actually are.

[@grogc6942]

To be honest, I feel the attempt to make deadlier nunchucks is gonna end up at the peasant flail... which I want to see. Cause two handed stick with metal nunchuck on the end is, like, the highest class chuckery.

[@kirbyis4ever]

Funny enough the nunchuck was originally a set of clappers for patrolling night watch and by making them thicker you got the chucks. Hitting people with what is basically two rulers just pisses people off.

[@ramzen89]

That's why the two handed flail was the more viable and widely used option. You still get plenty of damage output, while keeping the user safe and maintaining the benefit of being able to get around shields or other forms of guarding.

[@ezrafaulk3076]

All you have to do is *follow through* , which these guys *didn't* ; they *stopped* their swings with their arms still out in *front* of them; in other words, they stopped *mid* swing!

[@sixpathskaiokentv]

@@ezrafaulk3076 And "You Gotta MOVE"

[@strider7008]

I wouldnt consider any, or really all, flails widely used except at medieval times maybe.

[@JarieSuicune]

Seriously, why would you block the stick-part of a flail and not the head? A flail only gets past a shield if the shield is placed conveniently so that the head can clear it AND it only matters if the head is able to reach far enough down the back of the shield to hit the arm/shoulder/head of the person behind the shield. I'm no expert, but if you were a soldier (not some untrained commoner, like me) and saw an opponent swinging a flail at you, would you just put the shield in a static position and wait for the flail to come over it OR would you actively be blocking the damaging flail head to negate it altogether, the same as you would any other weapon?

[@ProfX501]

@@JarieSuicune Compare a flail to a polearm of equivalent length (or a sword in the case of a one-handed weapon). With a polearm, parrying the haft would stop the head of the weapon. To block the head of a flail, you’d need to move your shield much further in the same amount of time, and into a very awkward position. It’s also not always easy to gauge the position of a flail head on a flexible chain as it’s travelling.

[@taqresu5865]

The Nunchuck legacy lives on... Being the catalyst for fun Shadiversity videos like this.

[@Dj.MODÆO]

I honestly believe those “Dumbchuks” are deadly AF.

[@EpicRandomness555]

To your enemies and probably you lol

[@beowulfsrevenge4369]

​@@EpicRandomness555Precisely!

[@czkillz]

​@@EpicRandomness555I've actually done this with two rubber mallets before, and it's very painful to get hit, so 10/10 would recommend. 🤔

[@Psycorde]

​@@EpicRandomness555high risk high rewards, perfectly balanced

[@thekaxmax]

at both ends

[@josepetersen7112]

If we really aren't concerned with the self harm from nunchucks, then we could maximize the offensive potential by attaching impact fused grenades.

[@Cptn_Fabulous]

The Ullapool Caber-chucks.

[@isaace436]

sounds like something that would appear as an enemy's weapon in serious sam

[@johndortheknight4802]

I like how you think friend

[@psy-fi64]

​@@Cptn_Fabulous"A sober man would throw it."

[@lml55]

Nunchucku are not Flails, they were used in Self Defense and never built to kill Also unlike a Flail, you can hold both sticks and grapple an enemy really easily as you catch their sword or hammer with the middle and easily control the fight from there

[@mdexterc2894]

No matter what you do, you'll never outdo the champion of flexible weapons: a pummel on a leash

[@nikkibrowning4546]

End him rightly!

[@h0rk3d]

Or a whip with dumbchucks on the tip!

[@thekaxmax]

There's a reason they were made illegal in a lot of places

[@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666]

Pommel autogun or Pommels on a sack and chain.

[@milesmatheson1142]

Sock'n'Lock

[@casthedemon]

The thing that gives flails an edge is the fact that they have a longer handle and thus at full extension even if the weight comes back full force its only gonna hit the handle and not your hand. Nunchucks don't have that advantage.

[@EnsignRedshirtRicky]

Time to up the challenge: The Three-section staff (aka Super Nunchuck). I hear if you spin it like a lightsaber you can fly.

[@PoserPosse]

Tyranth saying that Shad has a stick, "On you, IN you, whatever." That was a sneaky joke!

[@kencoffman7145]

No matter what, Shad, please keep this format up! BS aside, you gotta keep up this form! All of you are priceless!

[@Volper1]

Watching Tyranth go at the melons and coconuts with the hammer chucks, it makes me wonder if they wouldn’t be more effective with just a steel ball on the end. He seems to impact most of the targets with the flat, or side, of the hammer head, not the actual hammer or the pry on the back.

[@OMAGAICE122]

The funny part is that Proper (COMBAT) Nunchaku tend to have heavily weighed ends, either by wood or metal, so that being hit by them would actually deal significant damage. Most non-weighted variants are used as either toys or training tools.

[@Real11BangBang]

Best way to fix nunchucks is to delete the chain and just use a stick😊

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

I'm yet to see proof of them being useful, but too man accident videos

[@K.B98]

Sticks*, two "halves" of the nunchucks. Double the stick energy!

[@jaywerner8415]

But then you just have 2 small sticks.

[@K.B98]

@@jaywerner8415 Its not the size of the stick that determines its energy, it's how you swing it

[@Grizzlox]

Deleting the chain just gives you escrima sticks, which like the nunchucks, are more about technique than raw power

[@NarrowSpark96]

"Dumchucks" seem pretty effective. I'm not surprised that adding a metal lump on the end would add a good bit of damage. On a different note, I'd be interested in seeing how nunchucks similar to Devil May Cry's Cerberus would work. Would having 3 sticks instead of 2 make them more effective? Probably not, but it's an idea.

[@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947]

Probably yes because it is more effective.

[@santino7470]

You’re right, Sword-Chucks are FAR SUPERIOR Edit: happy to see other 8-bit theater fans in the replies

[@ze_glitchy_gamer7629]

Makes me wish for lightsaber nunchuck to be a canon thing...

[@arthurdeheaulme7123]

Yeah! Ask Usui Tengen, he use it perfectly to kill demons in Kimetsu no Yaiba x)

[@adrigl3371]

Use katanas for more superiority

[@CryptkeyprVT]

Somebody else has read 8-bit theater

[@LordReginaldMeowmont]

Fighter McWarrior has entered the chat.

[@TehRedBlur]

That intro was bloody brilliant, Shad. What fun!

[@Zetact_]

If you really want to maximize the danger of nunchucks, why not try the famous gun-chucks?

[@Ethan13371]

That would be illegal(in America)! Not because of the guns though…

[@HD-mp6yy]

​@@Ethan13371It would be illegal in Australia. Mainly because of the guns.

[@metabolic2057]

Gun-fu

[@tsiefhtes]

​@@Ethan13371you would have to register the string as a machine gun( yes the ATF has said this)

[@NoobTamer]

@@tsiefhtes Which is funny, because after bump stocks got banned the ATF put out a list of "approved" alternatives. Among them was using a string or rubber band. I never heard anyone who followed their "advice" but if they did, I hope they sued for entrapment.

[@Corvona]

after years of training with nunchucks they (in my opinion) are surprisingly versatile. they can also be hard to predict while fighting against them because you can attack so fast and close distance quickly by extending your reach.

[@chiefcoiler]

I have some ideas to improve the hammer-chucks. Screw pommels on the ends of nun-chuks, so you can end your opponents rightly. They'd have to be pretty big and heavy pommels though. You could also just use maces instead of hammers. This would get rid of most of the accuracy problems, as most maces are symmetrical on all sides. EDIT: I made this comment before you mentioned maces at the end.

[@56815]

Find two big nuts and screw them on to the end of the stuck, maybe even wedge the nuts in place. Though.... you could just do the same to a stick and get better results....

[@Muljinn]

That is generally known as a “mace”…

[@corvus9795]

I sort of always saw nunchucks as more of a discipline training tool. It takes alot of discipline to master nunchucks to a point where your more of a danger to your opponent than yourself. Cause the big thing about nunchucks is that you are going to hurt yourself a lot when learning how to use them

[@samuelgibson780]

I've also seen people argue online that it trains blocking reflexes as well. The idea of nunchuks as training tools makes sense to me. But I am no expert.

[@Donky_Kongs_Baby]

Whats funny is thats not even there purpose lol its like saying a shovel is a good tool for training blocks with lmao.

[@ChristophBrinkmann]

Hey Corvus. ANY martial arts teaches discipline.

[@theromanorder]

2:04 theory as to why its better 2:46 problem (edge alignment and you can hook yourself) 3:35 exsplaning hiting with nun chucks 4:10 test with normal ones 4:57 test "dum chucks" 5:40 talk, once you hit it just wants to keep going or ricishay down not back at you 6:45 problem with the thor chucks (not long enough handle) 6:51 test 7:40 talk (its the middle point between the damage of dum chucks and speed of normal, would of been better to use longer handle for more control) 8:35 test comparing dum and normal chucks 8:45 talk about spining (not practical, but its not hard) 10:55 test with normal ones 11:21 test with thor chucks 11:50 test with dum chucks 13:08 talk (normal had speed and control but made bottles go flying, there esay, low chance of self harm but less power, against hard targets not strong and can break Thor chuchks, had power, dum chucks had lots of power and destroyed the target, but with all the weight it puts stress on handle wich leads to breakege, If the head was more like a mace it could work as no need for edge alignment 20:00 5/10 for thor chucks (as i said, not as fast as normal, not as powerful as dum chucks but alot less self harm

[@tshaw4725]

He is the messaiah

[@theromanorder]

@@tshaw4725 there was a while i did lots of these lol

[@tshaw4725]

I see I see

[@tshaw4725]

Shad should pin these

[@theromanorder]

@@tshaw4725 i know..

[@dawhandaonli5925]

So I did shaolin gung fu when I was a kid, and the thing I was taught was that nunchucks are for tangling and disarming an opponent, not for actually attacking with the intent to do serious harm. The motions we practiced (aside from generally swinging them around and looking cool) was to catch a swinging “sword”, get in close, break your opponent’s grip, then handcuff them with the nunchucks.

[@jakelowery7398]

Nunchuck vs sword is an EXTREMELY unfavorable matchup. I'd probably rather have a darn buckler and nothing else over nunchucks. Besides that, sword the size of a gladius would be practically just as easy to conceal/carry.

[@invenblocker]

Best way to fix the nunchuck is to give them ice powers, so when you swing them those are frost imbued strikes. Maybe with an option to spin them to create a blast of ice. Even better, how's about fire abd lightning power too, and perhaps the ability to combine them into a full stick.

[@MrPlainsflyer]

Maaaaaaagic!!!!

[@NarrowSpark96]

King Cerberus?

[@samuelurban6132]

Featuring Dante from Devil May Cry! (Couldn't resist)

[@blackjacktrial]

Also, use ice to freeze the chain so you have a longer haft. Wait, now we have a cold stick...

[@erikbjelke4411]

I find it incredibly ironic and appropriate that the Thorchucks have handles that are too short, and this is repeatedly acknowledged.

[@VictorianTimeTraveler]

I've smacked myself over the head with nunchucks so many times. Shad is spot on about nunchuks

[@stax6092]

I feel like the people that talk Sh*t about Nun-chucks (Especially Shad) have never been knocked out or had their skull cracked by someone using them. They do what they do because they were made to be enough AND easily concealable. It's way harder to hide a stick that's the same length so when you think you're going into a fist fight and someone pulls nun-chucks on you, you are not on the winning side of that fight. Good video.

[@steelmongoose4956]

Sword-chucks, yo!

[@MarineVeteran0351]

I'm loving y'all's extra content. My dogs absolutely Get all geeked out when Tyranth gets amped up on stuff😅

[@gameragodzilla]

I’d say a useful way to get the benefits of a nunchuck (more portability) while fixing the problems is simply making the nunchucks lock into the extended position when in use and then fold back in during carry.

[@TheSteam02]

I believe some concealed-carry batons are like that.

[@Eidolon1andOnly]

You mean like a telescoping baton?

[@dirtpounder]

​@@Eidolon1andOnlyit always circles back to STICK.

[@gameragodzilla]

@@Eidolon1andOnly Pretty much.

[@Eidolon1andOnly]

@@gameragodzilla Like a normal telescoping baton or like two of them tied together to make nunchucks?

[@Eclipse_101]

“On you, in you, sure.” WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THIS?! BAHAHAH

[@callumwright7459]

I think if you were trying to improve the Nunchuck, without discarding the basic design, you would add heavy metal caps to the end of each stick. Perhaps the caps could be studded, flanged or ribbed in a similar way to many maces, the other major improvement I could see would be the inclusion of some mechanism that allows the user to affix the two halves... y'know... making a stick. The problem is, both those suggestions negate the only perceivable advantage of the nunchuck, that it is a simple, cheap weapon, that doesn't look much like a weapon. Alternatively one could light each end of the 'chuck on fire, spin them around as a form of intimidation, and then, while they are distracted... kick'em in the junk, and run.

[@wolokowoh0]

The former is the non-foam pugil stick.

[@jedcollings3624]

And the fact that you can, y'know, fold your nunchucks in half for carrying around with you Assuming you can't simply make the nunchucks heavier with a harder denser wood, I would just make the chain a lot longer and aim to smash right through their head like some sort of two handed heavy whip, just make the thing significantly longer than any type of sword normally carried and use it two handed

[@1981cbrinkm]

@jedcollings3624 A hard long stick can be a walking stick. Don't even need to hide it, whereas if you're caught with nunchucks, the police probably aren't going to be happy seeing you carrying two dorky sticks

[@jedcollings3624]

@@1981cbrinkm That's not relevant to time periods where you're permitted to walk around with a sword, nunchucks probably were the telescopic baton of it's time, equally you would be in a lot of trouble if police caught you with one of those.

[@1981cbrinkm]

@jedcollings3624 HAHAHAHAHAHA yeah um. The nunchucks are the dorks of melee weapons. Have you never wondered why you never saw armies of nunchuck wielding warriors, nor any mercenaries? Here, I'll ruin the surprise - the nunchucks were dead for hundreds if not thousands of years. Nunchucks are the typewriters of weapons in an internet age. They're the horse driven buggy in a world where we have cars. Bruce Lee, yes that Bruce Lee also rightly mocked them. Only reason they're around in popular media is because of a ninja turtle cartoon. Also, nunchucks do not telescope, and we're not talking about effective weapons like batons. Stay on topic, please.

[@knightryder4323]

Just proved that a flail is just more efficient nunchucks 😂

[@beowulfsrevenge4369]

I'm not inclined at all to use nun chucks in any capacity. I'm even less inclined to use two claw hammers chained together as nun chucks. Hitting yourself with a stick is bad enough but hitting yourself in say the groin with a claw hammer is sooooo much worse.

[@nikkibrowning4546]

Ow. 😵

[@Assdafflabaff]

I heard some people are into that.

[@dawhandaonli5925]

The thing is, nunchucks aren’t really offensive weapons so much as defensive weapons. When I was a kid I did shaolin gung fu, and the drills we ran with nunchucks was to tangle them around a sword, get in close, disarm the opponent, and then basically handcuff the opponent with the nunchucks (and with the cord wrapped around your wrist, and someone yanking on the handles, they had a good amount of leverage and could really manhandle you with not a lot of effort)

[@anonymousapproximation8549]

​@@dawhandaonli5925Yeah, that's kinda why I don't care for Shad's take on them. It's clear that, in his mind, if a weapon has no direct offensive capabilities, that it's a bad weapon, when that couldn't be further from the truth. It's like saying a hammer is a bad tool because you can't use it on a screw.

[@Lich___]

I was using a sledge hammer about a year ago and it bounced off the beam I was hitting and broke my leg. Now imagine that, but nunchuks.

[@herbderbler1585]

I get that the claw hammers were done somewhat for comedic effect, but it does prove that a more omnidirectional smashy weight on the end would solve many of the problems with nunchucks. Basically, combine the operating mechanism of chucks with the striking mechanism of flails, maces and morningstars.

[@disasterincarnate]

might as well have something like 2 hollow pipes, kinda like some of the bone breaking extendable batons security forces use only thickened up to nunchuck size and just have some kind of small weighted ball on the ends to make them into mini maces.

[@thnecromaniac]

My assessments from watching this, the best way to improve on the nunchucks, and still keep the idea behind them: 1: make the two "sticks" more similar to Maces. And/or 2: give them a longer chain, make them more similar to a kusarigama.

[@minhducnguyen9276]

Keep the same ergonomics of the sticks by making them out of steel tubes, you can also adjust the weight by filling them with lead.

[@BlessedLaymanNC]

When I was a teen, we made Nunchucks with oak that was tapered from the striking end towards the string/chain end. Then we would drill a 1 inch hole or so in the striking end and fill it with molten lead and seal the end well. Your untapered versions were what we called "trainer chucks". The tapered chucks, even without the extra weight, were visibly more damaging than the "trainer" style. As for the performance between stick and chucks, I never learned to swing the sticks, but the chucks could fit in my pants and hide.

[@kamenriderblade2099]

Tyranth, here's a simple machining idea for your "Flail Chucks" that don't look like you spent 10 minutes at the Hardware store. On the end of your standard Wooden Nun-Chucks, have a simple Spherical Metal Ball that is "Screwed In" to the base of your Wooden Nun-Chucks. That should create the "Flail Chucks" that you want. Finding a Metal Sphere Ball & Standard Screw Thread should be easy enough for a machinist like you. For the flexible linkage, use Dyneema Rope. That should give you superior rope flexibility & strength using modern fibers

[@budthecyborg4575]

I'd just thread a giant nut onto the end of each handle.

[@kevinmorrice]

honestly, i always wondered why you dont see nunchucks with maces or an iron ball on the end

[@Bobis32]

funny enough traditional nunchaku would be capped with brass or similar metal or have weight pined to them, the solid wood construction is mostly a hollywood perpetuated myth due to how dangerous they are even made out of wood

[@demolition3612]

Brilliant, replacing the rope in nunchucks with a solid material like a stick, perfect modification

[@m.h.6470]

You got very lucky, that the metal hammers didn't chip or even explode, when you hit them together like in the beginning. I cringed every time you did that. Hammers like this are hardened tool steel, that can have imperfections and internal stresses - especially cheap ones like yours - that can be triggered/released, if you hit them together. The resulting "explosion" can be VERY violent and fast sharp metal chips can be flying around. Check out "WHY YOU DON'T HIT HARDENED STEEL!!!!!" by Alec Steele.

[@glenncaughey5044]

Mythbusters also tested smacking old hammers together. The speed if the fragments was insane.

[@Justice-ian]

This has been done before; it's called a flail. Once you add a head, the handle on that end serves no purpose (and the head on the handle end reduces the striking radius / velocity / energy). A mace head would work better because the hammer head is too random: the head or claw concentrates force, while the side spreads force out more than the tip of real nunchaku.

[@jamesdeek7039]

You guys are living the dream

[@angryroostercreations5194]

construct and test a grain flail. It has a long handle with a shorter articulated head. They were used for threshing grain, but were also used as weapons, but not very prominently. The head is also not attached by a long chain, just one metal link on the end of the shaft, and end of the head.

[@Tallorian]

I'm surprised to see you guys wear no head protection while testing these 'chucks'. Especially if you expected the hammerchucks to break. We don't want you get hurt too badly! But yeah, very curious video. I'd love to see proper 'macechucks' made and tested. The concept sounds dope. Perhaps even Shad would finally recognize potential of such chucks as a weapon XD

[@absolutedegenerate2992]

Sad thing is drew this as a concenpt weapon for a parody of mine

[@jasonwinterboer5232]

4:55 Bro should be wearing a Helmet and face shield... I'm so terrified for Tyranth's safety!!!

[@bt1959]

I'm now very curious about dead-blow hammers. That might stop the rebound entirely.

[@tranehoffman4798]

I love that Tyranth is slowly turning into Shad

[@Qaianna]

Interesting results, and not what I expected. Tho I always wondered which was better: a nunchaku, or the individual short sticks that they're made of? (Not the full stick, the two little ones.)

[@kylie_h1978]

Essentially these are just a double-ended flail, and like a flail is more deadly than nunchucks, so are these. If you get rid of the second hammer for the safety of the user, make that stick longer for better ease of use, and there you have it, a flail.

[@Sleipnirrob]

People who can't even use the proper name (much less use them properly) describe why a weapon sucks...

[@seymourfields3613]

I was really worried Shad was already back home. Excited for more CASTLES!

[@OofHearted]

Ones I saw recently were somehow the dumbest but at the same time, awesome in a Kung Fury kind of way. It was two sawn-off shotguns, because yes, they were Gunchucks and I definitely want a pair hung up in my room.

[@SirBitesALot101]

I like these videos, because they're actually skillful with the weapons they're using.

[@Lich___]

Is it possible that nunchuks are less lethal by design? Do we know their origin? Seems like the perfect weapon for someone more interested in intimidation than destruction.

[@rbrb7869]

There is the speculation that it was invented from a working tool for field work. If that´s true than it would be a cheap self defense weapon for poor people which can be hidden and taken along all the time. And for those who say that you can also take a stick with you...look at your home town and tell me how many people are carrying sticks. I personally don´t like nunchucks and agree they are very often harmful to the owner himself but with proper training it also has it´s advantages.

[@Lich___]

@@rbrb7869 I was just on a train and I saw an old guy carrying a stick with a feather on it (which I think was to make it go faster) so, your argument is invalid. But seriously, would you happen to know what tool that was? Closest thing I can imagine would be that they were used as a flail for threshing grain, but that's a pretty weird design for a flail.

[@konstellashon1364]

Regarding weapon spinning, there is a practical training reason. Whether stick or blade, it's a form of arm conditioning. Hand grip, wrist flexibility and shoulder endurance all get developed by the 'silly, show-offy' twirling. Also, the user familiarizes with the weight and balance of the particular weapon.

[@DeclanCC]

Remember the reason nunchucks were important is for their ability to hide their true intention. Two small sticks and a piece of rope is not instantly recognisable as a weapon, just as you'll find most "Ninja weapons" are usualy a range of simple farming tools. Being able to transport two claw hammers and a rope is the exact type of thing that would be used by modern ninjas.

[@hian]

It's not just that it isn't easily recognizable, it's that a folded nunchaku isn't even visible in the first place in traditional Japanese/Okinawan wear - whether by putting it inside the wide sleeves, into the wide obi(sash) or simply along the hem inside of the chest-portion of the kimono. The likely real reason for nunchaku to exist is as a "concealed weapon with a reach equalizer to a sword". Carrying a staff openly takes away the element of surprise, while a short stick doesn't provide the necessary length to face an attacker with a blade. The nunchaku, though unwieldy is the best compromise they could think of. It's also actually a really great tool for scaring away/fighting off wild animals.

[@justas423]

There are actually chinese nunchuks with big heavy metal balls on the end, mostly to show off your control over nunchuks.

[@BattleBok]

Interesting story from my Shaolin Sifu. Weapons like the nunchucks were peasant weapons, because they weren't allowed to own/use actual military weapons. They would use nunchucks to disarm their military opponents, steal their military weapons, then fight with those instead.

[@indigova]

I feel like a safer but as deadly version of the hammer chucks would be effective. Just put a rounded ball of metal, that is slightly bigger than the width of the nunchucks at each end, and it would work.

[@MYPSYAI]

I took a broken sledgehammer and removed the head and then I tied a parachord braid to the hammer head. A ten pound sledgehammer. Now I could rest the hammerhead on top of my shoulder and the braid is as long as my forearm. Now if I simply throw a jab, that hammerhead will be yanked off the top of my shoulder, and it will fly straight forward until it meets the end of that rope, which makes it Crack like a whip. With a bit of practice, you can reliably weild such a weapon without hurting yourself. It can also be thrown quite accurately at short distances, and it took me about 3 hits (22 seconds) to knock off a car door (I'm 5'11" and weigh 180 lbs). Although I've never used this against a living creature, it's obvious this would one shot anything shy of an elephant.

[@nicholaswroblewski3069]

nunchucks are a nice concealable in the back of a sleeve stealth weapon

[@Harbinger359]

Shadiversity gave Nun-chuk "Heavy Weight". What's this? Nun-chuk is evolving! 🎶🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶 Congratulations! Your Nun-chuk evolved into a Flail! Flail learned How to be an Effective Weapon! (Shhh...just don't tell Shad......)

[@procow2274]

Congratulations you rediscovered the flail 🙂

[@Avigorus]

My hellscape would be to get reincarnated in an isekai... where I am Michaelangelo of the TMNT, forced to learn to use nunchucks. Also to be the party animal when I'm 100% Donatello.

[@mikeforester3963]

Interesting point on the implied use of these abominations: In Germany they are (comically) a "banned weapon", illegal to possess, produce, sell, purchase. But in official legal language they are called "Würgehölzer" which translates to "choke logs". In that lies the only really feasible use of these things: to get the sticks around the opponent's neck and choke him. At any rate, though: Hail to the mighty stick. The stick is good. The stick is vital for weapon development. Almost every weapon is a stick of some sort. Even the basic tool is merely a stick with a modified working end. The stick will bring order to the cosmos.

[@possibear]

the water bottles seemed to pop because of the stand, it seemed like the bottles sat "in" the pipe a little and thats why they poped. kind of like the force squeezed the bottles inorder to pop them instead of causing a tear.

[@futurewario9591]

Using round blunts like the end of a mace would be best because it's the least likely to hit yourself with.

[@Breezey_Dubz]

A mace head on the end of them would be pretty decent really in both efficacy and appearance, would make swinging em alot easier too without clawing yourself with the hammerhead

[@jpteknoman]

As i understand it, the design of the nunchucks was deliberate as a non lethal weapon. They were made to cause pain on impact but not transfer enough force to do much damage.

[@disasterincarnate]

or maybe they were made that way because it would be simple/cheap.

[@yungmalaria]

The hammerchucks seem to be a surprisingly effective DIY weapon

[@taemien9219]

I think one of the reasons the hammer chucks did somewhat well is because of focusing the kinetic energy on a point and transferring that rather than rebounding like regular nunchucks. Now a warhammer would likely do this better.. kind of cementing the idea that nunchucks are a 'broken stick'. Which is why I want to bring up the subject on flails. Flails kind of take the idea of putting the weight on the end of a rope/chain to the next stage. Which will do like the hammer chucks and focus the energy a bit more efficiently. But you could make the same claim that doing away with the chain/rope and just having a rigid handle like for a mace would be better. This would be pretty much correct. You would be able to impart more force per strike with a regular mace over a flail. However just like you would spear someone with a spear... flailing with a flail is what I believe is the preferred way to fight with a flail. One of the few advantages a flail has over other more rigid weapons is that it can be flailed with. It seems so obvious but its something I think is overlooked. The amount of kinetic feedback is almost none with a flail. So this allows for faster follow up strikes especially considering you do not need to follow through with each strike for maximum damage like you would for just about any other weapon. Of course I am speaking of the one handed variant, its pretty well established that the two-handed flail was pretty effective for some of the same reasons as well as others. But in either case, I don't believe the flail is as bad as a weapon as the nunchuku or similar double headed non rigid linked weapon.

[@arcanearcher13]

Nunchukua are derivative of the flail used for farming. One side was traditionally longer to avoid your hands being damaged. A metal band applied to the end on nunchucks make them a portable flail. They are a valid weapon for anyone skilled with them. A stick hits you once, nunchucks hit you multiple times before you can react.

[@counterstrike89]

There's many different style of chucks, to which these guys have not tested, and I can assure, that a light wood, like a rattan or bamboo in the hands of a skilled chucker, is going to beat out the lone stick, its going to move too fast to keep up with.

[@lotharrenz4621]

now I imagine Bruce Lee picking up them dumbchucks and turning that into an exercise, hammering nails in left and right almost too fast for the camera (but only almost), ande ending that in one of his trademark poses and an insane scream...

[@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947]

I've said it before and I'll say it again triple Nunchuck this is the improvement of the Nunchuck.

[@icemaiden9534]

i really love functional fandom, its one of my fave things on shadiversity

[@johnd5740]

Even nunchuck's portrayal on TV was feared at a time.

[@TheAgamemnon911]

(holds up nunchucks) "This is a weapon of terror. It's designed to intimidate the enemy with fancy dance moves" (holds up stick) "THIS. Is a weapon of war. It's designed to keel the enemy"

[@GrayghostAlpha]

In which Shadiversity re-invents a proto-flail. Seriously though, I can see weapons evolving exactly like this over the centuries. Fun video.

[@domingos8214]

An improved version of the nunchucks would be two maces attached with a chain xd, since a mace is a 360º hammer so we're back to the stick argument

[@spiritrunner76]

Force is mass times velocity. You are swinging a fulcrum in an arc, effectively becoming the focal point on the radius of a circle (your swing). The point where the weapon is moving the fastest is at the very end. So that spot also would carry the greatest force. Adding weight (like a hammer head) to the end of the fulcrum moves the center of mass (the point where the greatest percentage of the mass of the item can come into play) towards that higher-velocity point. Not only are you increasing the mass and so potential force, but you are also moving that sweet-spot of impact forward to make more efficient use of that mass. So you effectively gain twice. More mass, More useable potential of that mass, moved to the higher potential velocity of that mass.

[@LJCyrus1]

2 minutes in I realized they made an entire video topic out of some scrap lumber and cheap tools. I was going to say props to them, but I immediately realized it was a pun and decided to go with it even harder.

[@jerryandersson4873]

Zombie home done weapon that is usefull: the PAN chuck. Shield, cooking implement and flail/chuck. One perhaps do not have a pipe or stick strong enough at home. But most people have a pan or two, and a bit string/cord/cain/whatever(even braided sheets)

[@MrAngryThing13]

Congrats, you have created a flail! 😂

[@Slitheringpeanut]

The extra weight of steel at the ends actually and mostly stops the ricochet effect, I... Didn't think it would. Interesting! STICK GOOD!

[@scapaflow1983]

You have reinvented a less effective flail, since nunchucks were meant to used with both hands so you can strike with both ends. But since you can’t do that with those it’s essentially a flail with a pummel weight. That being said awsome vid 😊

[@Brevnom]

The problem of bouncing back paired with hammers actually made me think of hammers for microgravity. IIRC they have space inside half filled with small ball bearings, so that on impact the ball bearings would compensate the bouncing. Could be kinda interesting if guys would try something like this.

[@Tomato_Dragonzord]

I have an idea for another test, maybe this will get your interest. I own a rope "nunchucks". Which are basically one solid piece of thick rope, wraped in hard plastic from both sides, leaving only a short exposed piece of rope in the middle which imitates the link. They basically feel like a more sturdy variant nunchucks and I think they work much better in terms of kinetic linking, the risk of hitting yourself is reduced, they still can be somewhat folded and concealed, they are much harder to break than normal nunchucks and crafting them by yourself is not a rocket science (might be even easier than regular ones). And if by any chance nunchucks are banned in your country and the law defines them as something like: "sticks linked together by chain or elastic material", then guess what. Rope nunchucks don't fit this definition and are 100% legal.

[@deathlytree434]

Loving the improved video quality

[@AFT3RDAY5]

The orientation problem can easily be solved by using Maces instead of hammers 🤩👍🏻

[@muninrob]

There was enough chaos in early Japan that peasant wound up finding ways to turn their farming tools into self defense weaponry. Nunchaku were rice flails, kama were harvesting sickles, tonfa were mill stone handles, kunai were planting trowels, and sai were used to stand up and bundle the rice stalks after cutting them. (they should be competing with farm tools, not dedicated weapons) P.S. your "Mjolnir Nunchucks" are closer to a real nunchaku than what you see in most karate classes. Go to a single head of about half the size of yours on a shaft about half the length of the handle, cord length should be long enough to freely swing, but short enough you can't catch your fingers between handle and head. (Now you have a slightly less terrible weapon, and a fully functional grain flail!!) P.P.S. weaponized farming tools is a very deep and very bizarre rabbit hole to fall down - after 3 decades the bottom is still nowhere in sight.

[@Harrowed2TheMind]

Mace-chucks were my immediate thoughts to optimize the design as soon as I saw the hammer-chucks. Much more versatility due to its strikes being essentially omnidirectional without the risk of striking through the flat side. One way I would see this type of hammer head working is if the chain only bent in one direction - and not to the side - like a "chain sword" (à la bicycle chain).

[@MultiKeto]

00:13 the first moment in which shad ever questioned his god's existence for he allowed such a thing in his world.