I really enjoy your reviews. You offer a nice point of view from someone who like us wants to make good coffee at home with a nice machine and get good value on a purchase. Thank you!
@AlternativeBrewing6 күн бұрын
I appreciate that! thanks so much
@patrickphippspa5842 жыл бұрын
What a DELIGHTFUL reviewer! Love this guy! And that new do! Wow!
@AlternativeBrewing2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@bumzigan6 ай бұрын
I purchased a Musica professional plumbed in model, but had to order it through Italy as they were not imported into Australia in that configuration in 2020. The volumetric dosing has always been problematic for me and the only way to get it to work accurately is to first drain the steam from the hot water spigot then flush the group head. It would then work OK, but this is such a pain I just use it manually now. 4 years on and the Musica is still making great coffee and I am very happy with my purchase. I owned an Oscar for 15 years prior to the Musica and modified it to be plumbed in, Sirai pressurestat, vacuum breaker and over pressure valve, so it ened up very similar in spec to the Musica. It would have been great to have had the rotary pump option, but that was not available at the time.
@AlternativeBrewing6 ай бұрын
Nice 👌 they are great machines
@ferdikulali72872 ай бұрын
Perfect review, thank U. Can i use this in my small coffee shop? Wht do u think?
@AlternativeBrewing2 ай бұрын
Yes you can! emphasis on small. no more than 1-2 kg a day. or you'll need to upgrade quickly. Also -- take care of the machine. You may save money buying it over a larger commercial machine - but you'll need to spend some of the savings on maintenance 👌
@traceymarek74789 ай бұрын
I absolutely love my musica ...and am worried about it lately when you turn it on in morning the pump wont turn off for ages abd when it does both cup buttons along with water fill button and boikerytemp buttons all flash how can I fix this issue please
@rolandocalderonguerra23462 жыл бұрын
review how wash correctly please
@stevebeschakis97752 жыл бұрын
"Drop and give me 20, Marine!" hahaha
@claptoned0 Жыл бұрын
My dream machine to replace my old Ascaso Steel Uno Prof.
@praestegaard Жыл бұрын
Funny. I am considering jumping to the Musica pr Oscar from the Ascaso Steel (that is certainly not stainless in the bottom) Duo Prof.
@bunmeng0072 жыл бұрын
Hi. How is the Musica different from the Oscar? Thoughts on if it's suitable for a shop with low volume?
@tow123bdp52 жыл бұрын
Candice coffee machine have a timer that can turn it on every morning automatically
@hramirezgcr Жыл бұрын
Hi, it is true that the música remembers the last power state. Meaning that if the machine is on and you toggle off the switch in the back, when you toggle the switch again, the machine will be ready? I’m interested on this fact to use a programmable outlet to turn on the machine before I wake up
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is correct 👍
@HaekalAlchatieb2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@alarcilam2 жыл бұрын
Nice one!!!! I am waiting for you to put a full review of the NS Oscar Mood to see if I can pull the trigger on that one.
@nicbrownable2 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to compare. The Oscar Mood has PID control, the Musica Rotary is pressurestat. The rotary pump is more durable, but I think that PIDs and solid state relays are now more reliable than a mechanical pressurestat. I think the Oscar Mood is a really nice looking machine, and it is otherwise hard to find a coloured machine once you get into prosumer stainless steel machines.
@AlternativeBrewing2 жыл бұрын
You and me both!
@craiggles8454 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see Nuova Simonelli offer a machine that blends the function of the Musica with the creature comforts of the Oscar Mood. * Rotary pump * Volumetric dosing * Programmable preinfusion * PID * Cool touch / no burn steam wand *Lever actuated steam * Shot timer * 3x Fully configurable auto on/off settings (time and duration) Already a great list of features they offer across semi-competing machines, just bring them together please NS! And maybe with a couple nice to haves: * Easy and external OPV access * Dual gauge pressure dial (Boiler and pump/group head) * Programmable eco mode * Mixed reservoir vs plumbable functionality
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
I feel ya 😂 even just those first four are a holy grail of a great machine - Rotary pump* Volumetric dosing* Programmable preinfusion* PID that's one expensive machine you just described though - even if not a Dual Boiler - that's easily a top of the line HX, I'd estimate at around $4k especially for a new release.
@craiggles8454 Жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing but I’d happily pay that much for a respected name like Nuova Simonelli or profitec especially. The only modern machine that ticks most of those boxes is the crem one lineup (sub a $6000 dual boiler anyway) and I’m not sure yet if they’ve resolved their manufacturing issues. Profitec pro 400 is a good machine but seems a bit undersized for hosting the extended family. Would love to see the whole latte love version of the pro 500 come to Australia. It’s a difficult line to walk for manufacturers between features / capacity / value for money / reliability. I’m leaning heavily towards pulling the trigger on the Musica, albeit begrudgingly with a few compromises on features I wish it had from the Oscar Mood, as above. Any other suggestions Alternative Brewing?
@drewlawrence696 Жыл бұрын
The Victoria Arduino Eagle One Prima (part of the Simonelli group)
@azukijelly77555 ай бұрын
I don’t see anywhere it says rotary pump on the product page. Is it the supercharge option?
@AlternativeBrewing5 ай бұрын
It's ibn the Drop Down menu: alternativebrewing.com.au/products/nuova-simonelli-musica-coffee-machine
@jf_lx1274 Жыл бұрын
What is the middle button in the second programming? You notice after activation that the water does not come down directly, and the time to turn it off from the programming, the water drops quickly, what is the benefit of that?
@VMCoffeeLab Жыл бұрын
Do all new LUX versions come with the rotary pump? I just ordered mine (2023) and am hoping they all come with the rotary pump.
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
It is only found in the model Nuova Simonelli Musica LUX mentions the Rotary Pump. A regular Nuova Simonelli Musica LUX, although a newer upgrade model now, still consists of a vibratory pump.
@VMCoffeeLab Жыл бұрын
I reached out to Seattle Coffee Gear (I purchased it through them) and they reached out to Nuova Simonelli USA directly, they informed us that the rotary pump is not offered in the US and they don't import them as of now. I appreciate your response!!
@jumpingxships2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Can we get one for the Oscar Mood when it starts being supplied in Australia?
@AlternativeBrewing2 жыл бұрын
Yes ! 👌
@benn.i11 ай бұрын
I have a weird problem with the musica: I’ve just set it up, but I can’t get the drip water tray out. Any suggestions?
@AlternativeBrewing10 ай бұрын
It may be stuck on something? or there's invisible sticky tape along the sides you'll need to peel back to release the tray 🫶
@LordRedDragon4 ай бұрын
is the machine setup for 9 bar?
@AlternativeBrewing4 ай бұрын
yes 👌
@marckirschbaum Жыл бұрын
Has the rotary pump version also a internal water tank?
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
Yes 👌
@rolandlickert2904 Жыл бұрын
Im considering this Machine because it's easy to use and promises consistency. My home is in Bali and they have a distributor with service & guarantee. Is it an overkill for only 2 to 3 espresso in the morning and 3 espresso in the afternoon? Lelit is available as well I'm a bit in the middle of what type I should choose! would appreciate your thoughts. In general, it seems the workflow is easier with this Machine than with other machines? How long do the Machines take to be ready for an espresso?
@AndeyKurniawan9 ай бұрын
15 the boiler be up to temp but i usually make at the 25min mark. 6 is ok for any heat exchanger. bezzera bz10 heats up faster but its another item to spoil. lelit is e61 a different set of problems). this machine, you may need to set higher temperature for lighter roast. if you know how to temperature surf, its a perfect machine. i just did my own servicing, its quite easy to do with a bit of plumbing knowledge and knowing how to read manuals.
@JasonSand72 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend this as to someone who is trying to start a small business with a coffee cart and small events?
@AlternativeBrewing2 жыл бұрын
Yes - this could be a great Machine to build a trade up. Just want to keep an eye on water levels 👌
@denden5104 Жыл бұрын
I'm new here, I want to know if this machine is better for home use or if it can also be used to start a small coffeeshop business. Thanks
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
Better for home use 👌
@denden5104 Жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing thank you very much for your reply. My same espresso machine as yours arrived today.Thank you master🙏
@syedisharil2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Is the musica brew pressure set to 9 bar
@AlternativeBrewing2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is 👍
@stevenhuber8292 жыл бұрын
no its not - its 16 bar
@drjinster2 жыл бұрын
Is this already in stock or still pre-order? Any chance of a 10% discount?
@AlternativeBrewing2 жыл бұрын
On Pre-order atm - No discounts at this stage sorry!
@KemOngTayArtisanGelato Жыл бұрын
My wife and i are looking to buy an espresso machine for her small gelato shop. We want to serve affogato and for that we need espresso. Since we are small and not many people would be drinking empresso, we were recommended the Oscar II or the Musica. Thanks for the delightful preview. I learned a lot!
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
Yes, get a good grinder to match with it, and you're away! 👌
@KemOngTayArtisanGelato Жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing Yes we ordered grinder made by the same company. I do have a question though. What brand of coffee beans would you recommend for most people? Could you include two or three different brands so that we can buy and try. Thank you so much.
@aznpwr9900 Жыл бұрын
Just bought this machine. I would like to ask, do you need to vent off the steam pressure after turning off?
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
NO 👌
@mlhm5 Жыл бұрын
Far better off buying a used Appia because it has standard parts which are available everywhere and anyone can fix this machine. BTW, the selection of coffee, water make a huge difference not to mention that your really need a commercial grinder with easily replaceable burrs.
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
You're 100% right! There's so much that goes in to making good coffee - it's not just getting a good machine and that's the end of it.
@LenaLuthorWife Жыл бұрын
is this suitable if I need to use for a small scale coffee business from home? my target maybe like 30 to 50 coffee per day. If not, can u suggest which one is better? I am stressed out looking for a suitable one.
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
Yes, 30 - 50 spread out - it will do okay. Make sure you clean the machine regularly
@supercanardo9 ай бұрын
No cold touch milk wand?
@AlternativeBrewing9 ай бұрын
NO sorry
@___kyungkyung Жыл бұрын
im in need of an advice with my musica. My country power rated at 60hz but my distributor sent me a 50hz. will it be fine to use?
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
id be careful with this. Most electrical good are okay👌 - though your machine may run under duress and cause fault after some time. Best to get the replacement/correct machine
@Sixstring65adgmail Жыл бұрын
What's the warm up time of the machine when you turn it on for the first time in a day?
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
8-12 minutes 👌
@Sixstring65adgmail Жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing Thx, bit too long for me. I need a HX machine that can keep in under 5 min. Any suggestions?
@paskoh2 жыл бұрын
Pre infusion?
@AlternativeBrewing2 жыл бұрын
yeah, 100% .... 3 seconds on - at line pressure than bumps up to full brew pressure - but it is default set is off - unless it was the machine I got... but it's super easy to turn on. Just go into program mode - next HOLD the Manual Brew button again and press the Water button at the same time 👍
@craiggles84542 жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing even on the vibration pump model?
@AlternativeBrewing2 жыл бұрын
@@craiggles8454 absolutely! Check this video out from 2017 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJ2sq3-fipJ0Y9U
@saptorshimukherjee4304 Жыл бұрын
Can I use it in my cafe doing 100 cups a day
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
Possibly - as long as those 100 cups are over the full day - and not all back to back - plus - 100 cups would be max! if your business grows - you're going to need another machine quickly !
@BaggySu2 жыл бұрын
I have 1 of those, previous version, the vibration pump. I have found that on the first brew, the first few seconds only steam came out of the group head. Is it normal?
@nicbrownable2 жыл бұрын
That is standard heat exchanger behaviour. The boiler turns the water in the hot water line to steam. You need to purge the group head before you pull your first shot if you have left it for a while between shots.
@BaggySu2 жыл бұрын
@@nicbrownable thanks
@philt42732 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a 2022 review of the NS Musica! I've had mine (secondhand) since 2020 and been loving it. It does all the things said here and it's just a sweet machine for a no frills morning routine. That being said, my hot water spigot tends to sputter and spit sometimes on its first run, but after flushing once, its fine. Do you have that issue?
@AlternativeBrewing2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome ! Yes, this is occuring due to superheated water being dispensed in the lines initially. Once you begin draining the boiler and cooler water enters the boiler on refill - the water out of your hot water tap will calm down. Some espresso machines mix cooler water with boiler water - but the Musica is not of these - and the hot water is usually fat too hot to drink from straight out of the tap.
@philt42732 жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing I've just learnt something new ! Im guessing you all flushed out the superheated hot water before doing the take for this video ;)
@___kyungkyung Жыл бұрын
is the vibratory pump really that noisy compared to rotary?
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
@@___kyungkyung there’s some vibration in the vibe pump that you don’t have in the rotary. This causes noise through the bench mostly. But Vibe pumps also noticeably begin to wear soon than a rotary pump, and will become slightly louder over time, sooner. There’s also a slight negative pulsating pressure to the vibes flow versus a rotary. Nothing huge, but noticeable. What effect this has on extraction I’ve never tested