Nutrition, Disease, and Genetically Selected Deer w/ Aaron Gaines | HUNTR Podcast

[@Branden1287]

We feed Deer365 year round. 1300 acres no fence hunting club and they eat 1000lbs a week pretty easy. Even in the spring when everything is green they still hit the feed hard. This is year 4 of our feeding program and the results have been awesome! Land around us runs corn feeders during season only and we haven’t seen a drop in our numbers when they start their feeders. A couple of the people didnt believe that the deer pics we shared with them were from our area😂

[@veteranoutdoorsman9978]

Missouri is a great example of this. A deer in the Ozarks vs a deer in the Missouri River bottom look like different species.

[@jordanhudson5075]

You ain’t lying, people don’t understand how hard it is to kill a older deer in the ozarks, I hunt in hardy Arkansas, right off nine mile ridge.

[@HUNTRPOD]

Bingo

[@steelereels7500]

Not going to lie that one was hard to sit through but still very knowledgeable thanks guys

[@homeinthewhiteoaks]

Feed the Mothers and Grandmothers to make bigger bucks. Bone mass is a big factor in antler size. But you need a few generations to see the expressions of better skeletal development.

[@Mossy-back-blacktail]

32:48 it took theblack tail about 3 years to start showing quality results from the yearlings with year-round supplemental feeding

[@Leatherwoodoutdoors]

Two things: I've been doing this for 24 years. I made a video in 2011 on mineral stations and how to achieve bigger antlers generationally. Attached below. I used to add selenium but it can work against you if you add too much so I left it out of the video. Now you can buy selenium enriched trace minerals. Add that with di-cal and your getting all 4 minerals talked about in the video. It's the cheapest route. May not be the highest concentration of some but better than premium marked up prices for custom mixes. Second: I dissagree with the evolution take. It's not evolution. In fact evolution isnt real. Natural selection and adaptation are real but not evolution. Jared is right partly right on this. What is happening though isn't even adaptation or natural selection. It's just maximizing nutrition. What is happening is you're giving the parents ( mainly doe) the best nutrition so she can pass that on to the next generation with maximum health benefits from in the womb and after through the milk. After that, starting the younger deer to start off with excellent health. This will naturally cause increase in size and mostly likely antlers too. Which I mentioned in my 2011 video... you'll see the results in several years. Generationally, at some point, you'll hit the max size for deer by meeting the nutritional needs to expose what the genetics can achieve naturally. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIa8gYGglKpsoKMsi=m5lf_VvS0gR0TbLG

[@chuck8586]

Youre a heavy christian so of course you dont believe in evolution. Natural selection, survival of the fittest, and adaptations are the process of evolution. So 🤷‍♂️ If you want to say god created the process of evolution, cause god created everything thats one thing. But to act as if its not real and doesnt exist in the modern era is akin to believing the earth is flat or the sun orbits around the earth.

[@travissmith-wz5nc]

GLad you got this guy on. They sell a power of science package 59.99 probably go through 4 of those for yr. Or add a few bags of their supplement spin to a spin broadcaster. I am a big fan of broadcasting redmond mineral or the trophy rock plot rock on a field early spring. Might try kelp also.

[@chuck8586]

36:47 an even better example of this is the pigmy mammoths that appeared off the coast of california at the end of the ice age. They were genetically identical to normal mammoths, but because of being isolated on a small island with poor nutrition for years, some of their genes turned off, and the mammoths shrank.

[@brandonbauer6543]

Have there been any studies on fawns born to a mother with cwd? Was the fawn born with cwd? If so how long do they live? If not did the contract the disease or do they have a certain immunity to it?

[@CentralMississippiWhitetail]

The study your wife worked on at MS State is one of the best studies ever done. The doe puts a genetic lock when they are in a “starvation mode”. This is the reason I can’t agree with Jeff about not summer feeding in areas where ag doesn’t exist

[@HUNTRPOD]

Haha I won’t tell her that 😂

[@chuck8586]

1:01:01 people in survival situations will eat parts of an animal they otherwise would not (brain, kidneys, liver, eyes, heart, lungs.) because your brain recognizes when youre really really in a vitamin emergency and knows where to get the vitamins it needs to survives

[@chuck8586]

1:27:54 lot of people putting mineral blocks out where it isnt legal too. 2016 ehd ripped through western PA as well

[@BallisticFix]

The Drurys put out Anilogics but I don’t think to the scale of Lakowsky

[@HUNTRPOD]

I’d agree

[@hckeypunk13]

genetic disposition and genetic expression are two different things. similar to how even the most genetically gifted animals will never express their genetics if they spend their entire life starving, if mama is struggling then so does the fawn. and much like human babies, a fawns health is directly related to the mother's. a bucks expression of its genetic potential starts even before nursing, in utero, this is the generational component. they can hit the ground with all the opportunity in the world or already nerfed to a point where no amount of nutrition will bring them to "100%". this is the difference between genotype and phenotype. in le mans terms... if you want big bucks, you need fat does.

[@Mossy-back-blacktail]

The ant alogix mineral works really good got good calcium good phosphorus but they need to chill out on that Salt % content...

[@chrisgarrison1158]

Salt content is best for spring and early summer. When moisture content is high the deer need sodium or they will consume less forage.

[@chuck8586]

1:38:49 if that is the route thats really choosen(bring sharpshooters in to lower the population and age structure) i would much much rather issue extra buck tags to hunters who will use them, bring them in whenever instead of sharpshooters and at least let the hunter do it.

[@JHCantrell]

Let’s raise a couple generations of deer without ticks and when the feedings stops and ticks come back…I’d be willing to bet your deer herd will disappear from disease. Want to do your herd a favor, improve browse, reduce numbers, let’em live and be wild!!

[@melvingreen7733]

Day number one of asking of a compound set up till I get one 😂😂😂 first like

[@daveyboy8907]

I know it's controversial but you should have the prince of poaching on the show..He sure is entertaining and is quiet the character. Great show once again.

[@Lonzo1]

If a deer lives longer with CWD with a certain gene that just means he/she is spreading prions into the environment longer. I don't see this as a solution to the CWD problem, actually may do more harm then good.

[@chuck8586]

2:07:39 just imagine a north America with 60% less cervid in 50 years, and fuck that would be so so bad

[@chuck8586]

2:12:05 predation not hunting. Hunting is part of predation

[@chuck8586]

1:05:40 no a deer cannot, and neither can a cow. Most things wont do well on a pure corn diet. And for ruminants its hell on their digestive tract Also, the only part of corn that is not digestible is outer shell, the interior is very digestible. It only appears like it comes out the back end in one whole piece but it does not. The shell is there but the interior is gone and replaced with poop.

[@jimmyalamo839]

maybe im wrong but when he said we cant influence genetics, what about the texas ranches with Genetic programs artificial inseminating deer to better withstand diseases and have better antler structure.?

[@HUNTRPOD]

I mean yes lol if you artificially inseminate and have a closed population. But in free ranging whitetails no

[@natemihlbachler3511]

I'm big on conservative sized food plots, canopy reduction spraying out cool season grasses etc. Im doing anything I can do to create native habitat. That is human intervention but it's all natural. At what point is supplementing these deer just no longer natural deer hunting? No different than it being illegal to juice in sports. I just think some of the stuff is getting out of hand. Can people not be happy with mother nature's natural deer herd? Do we have to continually try to pump things up? Is natures way not good enough? I think the native habitat has what deer need and these supplements are tampering with nature. Advertising cause need I guess. More deer related marketing. People need to quit dumping crap on the ground and do the habitat work.

[@daveyboy8907]

The last thing I want to run into walking to my stand is a roid raging swollen neck rutting buck.Just picture that for a min. Especially if you were old school and using scents at your stand.