Friday Favorites: Plant-Based Protein - Are Pea and Soy Protein Isolates Harmful?

[@ptinvite7942]

Title subject isn't at the beginning where it should be. Starts @ 2:06

[@mjs28s]

@1:59 The sodium content is misleading a bit. Beef has some sodium in it, of course. But as you cook it you season it more on the outside to make it taste better. they taste of almost nothing if you don't season them. Having cooked Impossible and Beyond patties I didn't need to season them. I wager that the actual as-eaten sodium content of the beef is much higher than the table shows, which seems to show the raw meat status. If you have ever eaten an unseasoned beef patty before going plant based, you know what i am talking about.

[@Len1977gt]

Well said Dr. Greger!

[@levi5073]

Guys, I have both severe gastritis and IBD Are there any plant-based protein powders with no triggering ingredients?

[@mikefox3939]

Try hemp protein. It has the full range of amino acids, fiber and is beneficial for gut microbiome. It's what I use and it has helped me immensely

[@hornsteinhof7592]

I can recommend pumpkin protein as well

[@thewitchskitchen]

I'd recommend hulled hemp seeds as opposed to hemp protein - then you get the good omega acids as well.

[@REL602]

No. The ketogenic diet is what will cure your gastritis and IBS. Guaranteed. End of discussion. Watch Dr. Berg and Ken Berry videos.

[@dianebernier9214]

❤ thanks, Doc!

[@thewitchskitchen]

I never understood why anyone would bother with protein isolates and powders, when the healthiest protein and healthy fats (better than fish oil) all come together naturally, in hemp seeds.

[@coliberation]

@@thewitchskitchen I have heard great things and occasionally consume them in smoothies. I am not expecting you to answer these: so I wonder, what is the risk of oxidization? What is the best temperature to bake a patty from this? Where can I buy them fresh?

[@jeffsmith5442]

How can you compare oatmeal to eggs for a protein video

[@ABCDEF-zl6nj]

Yes and he talks about that in other videos saying how they should not be consumed regularly. Instead, use them as a bridge when transitioning from a meat to plant based diet.

[@DCGreenZone]

Plants have up to a million "plant based toxins" according to the WHO. Meat -----> zero. When you listen to the hundreds of people on No Carb Life who have cured nearly every illness on carnivore, you will have second thoughts about "plants"

[@REL602]

Nobody should ever transition from a meat to a plant based diet. They should transition from a carbohydrate based diet to a meat and vegetable based diet.

[@eng.miroslavmanahilov1944]

@@REL602 , no.

[@sebastienconstant5190]

Started on a pesco diet 3 months ago, Is it ok to have a BP of 118/58 pulse 59 on a vegan diet for 5 weeks only? I used to be 200 pound 3 months ago and now I’m 165 pounds and stop smoking 3 months ago as well. But before my BP was averaging 143/83? But being honest I feel good

[@walter1824]

Anyone know a good way of preparing 1 scoop of soy protein powder other than drinking it ?

[@wfpbwfpb]

In oats.

[@ronsiegel7552]

@walter1824 I've seen recipes for pancakes, put into oatmeal, made into ice cream,, puddings, etc.

[@Sergio2006A]

You can use it in baked goods (ideally neutrally flavored), by swapping one third of the amount of flour.

[@REL602]

Yes. Throw it in the trash is the best way to prepare protein powders. Eat meat and eggs instead.

[@regina5749]

​@@REL602and start taking heart medication to manage the heart disease meat causes

[@Alexander-ok7fm]

Thank you!

[@carolinemuch696]

Coconut oil is bad?

[@janwanderer7660]

saturated fat is just like animal fat

[@PositivelyDevine]

@carolinemuch696 yes, as is all oil but coconut oil is one of the unhealthiest of plant oils

[@neuroplasticodyssey]

Saturated fat is NOT bad for you. Oatmeal is healthier than eggs?! This is wild.

[@Mercymurv]

@@neuroplasticodyssey See his videos on eggs. See his videos on oats.

[@REL602]

@janwanderer7660 Which are both spectacularly nutritious and beneficial.

[@nazokashii]

So cool! Thank you so much

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

At 4:46 Greger states one can't show cause and effect until plant protein is put to the test in experimental research (RCTs) but earlier references the 2017 IARC monograph on red and processed meat which exclusively uses observational data, and also references smoking and lung cancer risk which that relationship is entirely observational data. Hes effectively contradicting himself in the video. Still good overall data being presented showing plant protein is more health promoting to animal protein generally though.

[@jamesherried9269]

No,he's just presenting what evidence and studies he's aware of,whether it's observational studies or randomized controlled studies (which are hard to come by for humans).

[@marianorgr]

Causation is inferred when pooling all the lines of evidence together, not by a single study or a single design. Smoking and lung cancer causality was established looking at diverse lines of evidence together and making a rational thought

[@roger1uk676]

The trouble with these plant based burgers is they are all ultra processed foods! They taste good but its all the stuff thats added to these unatural man made foods that make them bad!

[@REL602]

and they don't taste good at all.

[@KWifler]

It's all a balancing act. One of my docs told me my cholesterol levels were too low! What happens to your body without enough cholesterol? Well, I stopped as much oatmeal... Your body needs HDL and LDL cholesterol. Does it need saturated and unsaturated fats as well? There apparently is such a thing as too healthy for some people.

[@Mercymurv]

There's no need for dietary cholesterol (LDL), and your body makes HDL on its own.

[@REL602]

Lay off the refined carbs. Go keto.

[@sdhillon901]

Beyond burgers and impossible are filled with dextrose

[@Alf22374]

MMMMHH, reheated content👌 Another W for veganism.

[@jeffsmith5442]

Yo Dr. Gregor might wanna let these vegans know P protein isolate or powder is mega high in sodium concerning high for some people heads up otherwise if mixed with rice protein it’ll almost be as good as whey

[@MrBgodwin]

The potential for heavy metals, pesticides and pfas has left me no place to run for safe foods. Any ideas if plant proteins are safe from these toxins? Apparently my oatmeal is killing me now with roundup. I'm trying high quality peanuts daily. Are peanuts safe?

[@hornsteinhof7592]

I recommend not to exaggerate it - where I come from, there are review magazines for foods like Stiftung Warentest or Ökotest which analyze foods for residues, fungal toxins, heavy metals and other contaminants. These will help you to find the highest quality foods of each category!

[@dianasthings729]

peanuts have mold

[@KWifler]

It's all a balancing act. Better break out that tight rope! My doc said I was eating too much oatmeal and bringing my cholesterol too low! The extra complication is that we are all unique. Some people may benefit from eating less healthy. How do you know if that includes you? You almost have to become a biochemist yourself. We all should become biochemists!

[@gooberpeas7926]

No, peanuts are not safe. Peanuts, like so many other annual crops, are sprayed with glyphosate as a "desiccant," not as a pesticide, thus even organic peanuts likely contain glyphosate. I have found only one brand that protects its peanut butter from glyphosate, and it boasts glyphosate-free certification. "No place to run for safe foods" -- I feel it.

[@samiryan214]

How to explain high protein intake is associated with an increased risk of diabetes and insulin resistance?

[@ramenface_________________]

Lots of protein spikes insulin.

[@REL602]

Nope. High carb is the cause of diabetes and insulin resistance. Fat and protein are good for you.

[@samiryan214]

@@ramenface_________________ Insulin spiking isn't a bad thing if there are intervals between each spike (spaced meals). Insulin spikes are what deliver nutrients to the cells.

[@Pi2.718]

i have pesticide meter, i measured various food sources around the world, including veg in rural Italy …. the only clear from pesticide food was …. meat, sometimes not even grass fed … we are left with nothing to eat, never mind protein or not !!!! The highest if I recall correctly were watermelons, melons, lemons, tomatoes 😮

[@danielskipp1]

@@Pi2.718 did you test "organic" food?

[@Jodie-masterson]

Saturated plant fat and animal fat are not the same thing!!!!!!

[@AndrewPawley11]

I love this channel!

[@jeffsmith5442]

How can you compare oatmeal to eggs for a protein video and if you eat, say 100 g of protein from peas dry or whatever you can double your calories for the day if you’re trying to meet like 80 grams and have fun with all that fiber I tried to stay healthy being a vegan for four years ended up, losing a lot of muscle skinny fat and I never ate dirty food junk

[@vegangames3468]

💙

[@mrdarryl2row]

Eggs beat oatmeal every day!

[@EugeniaCarnley]

But the impossible burger is highly processed!

[@jstekic]

Why would one eat vegan junk food, when you can eat lentils, beans, etc.?

[@shaunadams-rh1ds]

As he said if you were going to eat a beef patty or bacon etc these are the far better option. But a whole food options is superior. As he said you have to compare it to something..

[@significantlystrangeboi9929]

Saturated fats are not bad, we’ve been eating them since we’ve learned how to cook, in other words, since we’ve existed as a species. Animal fats just so happen to be perfect for cooking and that’s what we’ve been eating for the past 200,000 years. cheap seed oils are bad. Unless it says “organic” or “expeller pressed,” it usually means it’s been chemically processed. Beyond burgers use cheap oil and preservatives, The real deal meats are much healthier. If you want your burger and want to have it too, just use ground venison or bison. If you want a plant-based alternative, then don’t even think about burgers. Just grind up some beans with some oats and boom, you’ve got yourself a complete protein flower to put in your smoothies for thickening, although it may mess with your gut, if you’re not used to it.

[@georgebmac8140]

He seems to be mixing whole plant processed with fiber with processed plant proteins : “Plant protein” - is it processed & refined. Plus much depends on what you measure.

[@johnpeters-rw9it]

Did you watch the entire video? Isolates are processed. He spoke specifically about them at the end.

[@groundedmike]

Can we look at biochemistry rather than population studies or meta analyses? This information sounds 10+ years out of date.

[@henrikwolsky8192]

On a WFPB diet I've developed intolerances to soy and gluten.

[@ivanfreire]

Pea or rice protein are excellent options. Maybe you should talk to your doctor or dietician

[@scottjones5406]

This guy is so full of it 😂

[@shaunadams-rh1ds]

Full of knowledge,m yes, it seems you either can't understand it or don't want to. He sights reputable studies so there is no denying it. You just keep gulping down the meat, nothing unhealthy about it at all 😂

[@PositivelyDevine]

This is who he is. I'm not sure what you don't like about him. He's an amazing person. He's witty and extremely intelligent and kind

[@jeffsmith5442]

Yo Dr. Gregor might wanna let these vegans know P protein isolate or powder is mega high in sodium concerning high for some people heads up otherwise if mixed with rice protein it’ll almost be as good as whey