Thanks a lot for your video. After recovering from covid, I noticed hair was thinning. I changed my shampoo and oil to littlleexttrra cooconioon, and it really helped lessen my hair fall and promote hair growth. Additionally, I began using a scalp massager, as it cleans the scalp thoroughly during shampooing.
@ReddyNavinhere5 ай бұрын
I used Littlellextra Cocoonnion oil, and it’s amazing. It's packed with sulfur and potassium, which boosts scalp blood flow, resulting in better hair growth and controlled hair loss. One of the key ingredients is onion and coconut oil, which support the growth of new hair.
@christopherleigh2 жыл бұрын
I hear this and I can’t help but think what a national treasure Dr. Greger is.
@sorel73422 жыл бұрын
Heavy metal induced hair loss is the name of my next album
@tuna99192 жыл бұрын
Ill buy a copy!
@BianicEpicVideos2 жыл бұрын
I’ll buy one as well 🔥
@wildbill63662 жыл бұрын
I'm 61 and have most of my hair and have been eating pumpkin seeds /pepitas for years .. They help big time .. Love them . Put them in salads , cereals , smoothies , sandwiches ... etc. They are great !
@Igweka7695 Жыл бұрын
Pls how do you eat the pumpkin seeds. I find it hard to chew. Thanks
@dianastoevelaar9548 Жыл бұрын
Please share how much in the way of weight or measurements, 6:34 that you use daily, Bill. Thank you very much!😊
@dianastoevelaar9548 Жыл бұрын
@@Igweka7695 i’m sorry to hear that you have difficulty chewing. You could blend them into a smoothie or buy pumpkin seed butter. You could grind them yourself in a coffee grinder or seed grinder, to save money. Good luck! 😊
@TheWinners842 жыл бұрын
Love Michael’s videos but when I saw this one I had to chuckle. I think that ship has sailed.
@frankmedrisch74512 жыл бұрын
Same here!!! A bit funny seeing him in the cover completely bald
@chiyerano2 жыл бұрын
I just see him as the messenger.
@LookNook20202 жыл бұрын
You are missing the point-you can’t change heredity
@TheSnerggly2 жыл бұрын
@@LookNook2020 exactly.
@Magnulus762 жыл бұрын
@@LookNook2020 Not all baldness is hereditary, and not necessarily to the same degree.
@Atheria444 Жыл бұрын
I've been sleeping with rosemary oil mixed with a tiny bit of olive oil on my scalp for almost a year. I have clear hair regrowth...lots of short hairs everywhere now. Rosemary essential oil is shown to be as effective as 2% Minoxidil but without side effects.
@iamthebadwolf7296 Жыл бұрын
Can you site the study?
@samvandervelden8243 Жыл бұрын
Citations please and more than one study
@jokepple67928 ай бұрын
You have changed my life so much, I started reading your books and despite not being the most diligent or organised person, and still prone to sweet and salty mishaps, I have changed my diet considerably. Our family is now vegetarian, which was a steep menu planning curve for us, but we have come to a place where planning our weekly vegetarian menu has become completely routine. As a scientist working in drug development I love your systematic review approach and only wish that more people would listen to what is probably the easiest thing you can do to improve your health, which is ‘eat more plants’. Please keep doing what you do!
@jamesc72772 жыл бұрын
I love Dr. Greger, and believe he knows what he’s talking about. But should he be standing as an authority on preventing hair loss?🤔😁
@stifft502 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@adiohead2 жыл бұрын
He got the clot shots wrong.
@chiyerano2 жыл бұрын
I just find him to be the messenger of data and info on the matter.
@livefromplanetearth2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@LookNook20202 жыл бұрын
You can improve your diet & lifestyle but not heredity.
@YD-uq5fi2 жыл бұрын
I have taken Finasteride for 23 years, without any known ill effects. It halted the hairloss I had at age 25, and I still have most of my hair at 48. I will add pumpkin seeds, though.
@akalion2132 жыл бұрын
Yeah those pumpkin seeds will really make a difference lol
@michaelavery3964 Жыл бұрын
same here
@LydiaZ36 Жыл бұрын
It kills so many men's sex drive. You're lucky if it hasn't
@3Techers2 ай бұрын
Finasteride ruined my erections at 24 years old. Disgusting stuff.
@3TechersАй бұрын
@@UnsaidEmily actually no, it turned out to be more nocebo than anything. I’m doing fine now!
@naftalibendavid2 жыл бұрын
Next time I will pick different parents and stay away from smokers.
@AtypicalPaul2 жыл бұрын
I eat 1/4 cup of sprouted pumpkin seeds every day. They are delicious! I like to mix some with sunflower and hemp seeds then put that over frozen blueberries and dark cherries with dash of Ceylon cinnamon. So good!
@sowmindful15012 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing about 3-4 pumpkin seeds with small applications of organic pumpkin seed oil to my problem areas of hair loss, but by golly gosh I’m going to do pumpkin seed sprouts! Thank you for this idea!! I’ve already noticed quite the improvement, so I can only hope that this sets things into overdrive, I don’t care if I look like Sasquatch, I’m ready!
@sowmindful15012 жыл бұрын
@@Max.Resilience so where does the brown stuff from my butt come from if the seeds aren’t being digested?
@gailsteele4371 Жыл бұрын
I eat pumkin seeds every day and have done for many years. My hair is thinning, and every time I brush or combe, some always falls out. I am whole food plant based , I follow Dr. G and Dr. Fuhrman
@undefinedfirstnameundefine78202 жыл бұрын
I'm lucky to still have a full head of hair. But rearching my mid 30's I started to notice 6 or so stray hairs in the shower every day. I've started eating half a block of tofu, caynnne pepper, soy milk, Calorlina reaper sauce and pumpkin seeds daily and it has essentially stopped all noticable shedding within a few weeks. It might not be enough for people who are genetically balding at a young age but it definitely seems effective in maintaining
@samvandervelden8243 Жыл бұрын
Unlikely that it's because of those foods, could be because of other factors or a coincidence
@enough425 Жыл бұрын
How much tofu and soy milk
@pedromiranda10002 жыл бұрын
This podcast episodes are awesome. Thank you so much!
@fedekoen59962 жыл бұрын
I have read, that fenugreek lovers levels of DHT, also by blocking the conversion from testosterone, hence allowing for more testosterone in the blood. Could this have an effect on hairloss. I know that there is likely no study on this, but just sharing own speculation. Hope you reply NutritionFacts - big fan of the channel.
@irita8132 жыл бұрын
Thank you For what you do!
@liquidSpin2 жыл бұрын
Right now currently Minoxidil applied twice a day slows hair loss and for some can result in some hair regrowth. Often times the hair regrowth is small thinning hairs but it’s better than nothing right? For those who can apply Minoxidil everyday without any skin irritation I believe this is the best thing to do before permenant hairloss occcurs. That is until science catches up and figures out how to stop DHT from attacking the hair receptors and blocking them of their nutrients. I think hair regrowth is a much harder task to accomplish but I am still hopeful. Unfortunately, no shampoo, foods, or suppliments effect hair loss. However, just because having a healthy diet doesn’t influence hairloss everyone should still try and maintain a healthy diet regardless :)
@furyofbongos2 жыл бұрын
Of course YMMV, for me, Minoxidil didn't seem to help much at all, with years of use. After stopping, it seemed to get better.
@liquidSpin2 жыл бұрын
@@furyofbongos which is why I wrote “for some” keyword being “some”. So you started growing back hair after stopping minoxidil after years of use?
@furyofbongos2 жыл бұрын
@@liquidSpin Yes, it did seem to improve a bit after stopping. I've been on pumpkin seeds for a few weeks, will wait a couple of months to see if that makes any difference.
@liquidSpin2 жыл бұрын
@@furyofbongos Good luck, but pumpkin seeds won’t help. The body’s production of DHT is the culprit but why DHT effects some and not everyone is still unknown. However, good luck and hope your hairloss improves~
@liquidSpin2 жыл бұрын
@@furyofbongos Dr. Greger never stated any proof. He just mentioned a very very small clinical trial of 76 people who were given pumpkin seed oil. He also implies that the earlier you eat a plant based diet excluding meats that this will improve your body's resistant to hairloss. Having good bacteria in the gut to having more soy products in the diet. However, he makes no claim that this will in fact reverse or cure hairloss. Please rewatch his video to understand he is providing. Cheers~
@SajolAshfaq Жыл бұрын
I love to listen to Dr. Gerger.
@-whackd Жыл бұрын
He has never practiced as a medical doctor. It is better to call him Michael Greiger, MD, because he received an MD but has in no way ever practiced medicine.
@Unlucky13ification2 жыл бұрын
Quick summary: Eat squash and pumpkin seeds, hot peppers, and soy. Take zinc supplement for hair because you're probably deficient if you eat plant based.
@paulmaxwell8851 Жыл бұрын
NO! Dr. Gregor just finished stating in this video that there is NO data supporting the idea that zinc supplementation has ANY effect on hair loss.
@ragz12345678 Жыл бұрын
@@paulmaxwell8851unless one is not already deficient
@Burningtreeblood2 жыл бұрын
Putting pumpkin seeds and all the soy on my shopping list now
@-whackd Жыл бұрын
Maybe you'll be lucky enough to look like Greiger, who has never practiced as a medical doctor
@dunar10052 жыл бұрын
9:00 thats why you administer it topical.. you should know that. Don’t turn everything into “eat nuts instead of meat and you are fine”
@matanieandrei67492 жыл бұрын
Castor oil increase hair growth and helps the scalp to recover! Diet has to be rather alkaline than acidic, you have to live stress free! There is a procedure that some specialists know it for hair recovery ( it is some sort of stimulation and recovery of the scalp but also the entire organism!). Eredity doesn't decide entirely your health problems, it is rather the habits that you take from your predecessors, and the fact that you live in the same place for a long period of time!
@CharGC1232 жыл бұрын
As they say, heredity loads the gun, but lifestyle pulls the trigger.
@leonieduplessis44672 жыл бұрын
I have rub so many different products on my Husband scalp for regrowth of hair with out success I think what you eat more important for hair growth.
@akalion2132 жыл бұрын
Cope
@AnonymousanonymousA2 жыл бұрын
Which supplements reverse Excess glycosaminoglycans causing many illnesses?
@bozhidar-petrov2 жыл бұрын
Doc, most grains data is 50-70 grams carbs per raw portion. Same these grains with 20-30 grams carbs per 100 g but COOKED. I ve heard that cooked are better because digest better and absorption is better even with less carbs. I m an athlete thats why I m asking. Should we cook grains or not and are grains staple diet for humans. I prefer buckwheat and quinoa instead wheat or rye or barley. Thank you!
@georgehornsby2075 Жыл бұрын
Whole grains are a staple in the human diet, populations that don't eat many tend to eat starchy root veg instead. The reason the carbs per hundred grams go down when cooked is just because the grains are plumped up with water. The carbs per calorie is still the same. Cooked grains are certainly easier to digest.
@leonieduplessis44672 жыл бұрын
So alopecia and a under active thyroid got anything in COMMON, and after years of no hair will it grow back again🤔
@depnewshound Жыл бұрын
I'm off to buy some pumpkin seeds to put them to the test! 😀
@tammyjoma7 сағат бұрын
@@depnewshound How did it go? :)
@xthechar2 жыл бұрын
Surprised to hear nothing about saw palmetto, which I have seen some studies showing benefits in preventing or reversing hair loss.
@undefinedfirstnameundefine78202 жыл бұрын
yep it's actually been proven to be effective. Not quite as effective as Fin but it does have some credible results behind it.
@samvandervelden8243 Жыл бұрын
Just take Finasteride
@Nicksonian2 жыл бұрын
If anything worked, especially when it comes to diet, then Dr. Greger would have Steven Tyler hair. Grass doesn’t grow on a playground…why trade sexual function for hair?!?! Switched from cow’s milk to soy milk 15 years ago…still bald and the hair all over my body continues to thin. Brother, father, uncles, grandfather, great grandfather…all bald. You think anything is going to stop that kind of genetics? Nope.
@tamcon722 жыл бұрын
Didn't watch video--where the Doc clearly states repeatedly that most hair loss i genetic--and still comments beneath it. How embarrassing!
@Nicksonian2 жыл бұрын
@@tamcon72 Seriously? That’s even a comment? Of course it’s genetic. Of course he said it’s genetic. Everyone with a brain knows it’s genetic. The point is, why go to all this trouble of finding cures for baldness when it’s GENETIC? Wow. It’s embarrassing that you are clueless, lack reading comprehension, and would berate someone for a light-hearted comment. Geesh. Maybe you should see if diet works for anger management.
@terrileeg032 жыл бұрын
Fecal transplant time?
@Nicksonian2 жыл бұрын
@@Max.Resilience Nice, just what a muscle for brains guy would say. Let’s judge people on their appearance…as if that means a damn thing. Greger looks healthy…a healthy nerd. Wake up and smell the coffee bud, the nerds are twice as smart as you.
@Magnulus762 жыл бұрын
Dr. Gregor's hair loss was severe before he became vegan, methinks. Most men with thinning hair don't have highly genetic hair loss like Dr. Gregor's.
@Hiltie1 Жыл бұрын
I have eaten pumpkin seeds for two and a half years and drink green smoothies, green tea and Cinnamon and salmon and flaxseeds but poor sleeping habits. My hairloss is slightly worse ?
@prashantsingh-tn4eg2 жыл бұрын
I wish he talked more about Minoxidil
@darrinheaton4016 Жыл бұрын
It worked for me. Started taking it at age 35, when I noticed I was receding in a major way. Took the 2% solution for 15 years, until at age 50 noticed I was losing a lot of hair. Started taking the 5% formulation, and noticed a major re-growth surge. At 54 years, the minox is still working...that's almost 20 years. I definitely do not have the thickness I had in my 20's...but I certainly don't look bald/balding. However, what worked for me may not work for others. You have to use it at least once a day, which is a pain in the A.
@tonynes35772 жыл бұрын
Food to help with hair loss at about 9:50 min. Wow 😲. Now what was that I ate last week that made me, a 60 year old, sexually aroused for more than a few days; was it that ginger?? LOL. 😁 Eating my pumpkin seeds, soy and jalapeno daily. Thanks Doc!
@sowmindful15012 жыл бұрын
I wanna be a 60yr old like you.
@blowitoutyourcunt76752 жыл бұрын
The pumpkin seeds, they act on the prostate. Cheers!
@Magnulus762 жыл бұрын
I eat a plant-based diet and use a menthol hair tonic every day and I have alot more hair than my brother, who just eats the SAD and doesn't treat his thinning hair.
@akalion2132 жыл бұрын
You don't treat yours either. You simply got lucky with your genetics.
@Magnulus762 жыл бұрын
@@akalion213 I doubt it. I haven't been vegan my whole life, and when I wasn't, my hair was actually thinning, the same as my brother's.
@akalion2132 жыл бұрын
@@Magnulus76 How do you know your hair's actually gotten better? My dad is almost completely bald on top of his head. His brother was an alcoholic for 25 years and at 50 had way more hair than my dad at the same age.
@samiryan2142 жыл бұрын
@@akalion213 bcuz his bro has high estrogen level due drinking
@enough425 Жыл бұрын
What’s the menthol product you use
@himpoet2 жыл бұрын
The benefits of Finasteride go well beyond the aesthetic, as you would know if you read why 5mg Proscar (generic Finasteride) is available. This is actually the product I use and several people use fractioned to 1mg. Personally, I fraction it to half of that. Also: 1. Studies show that a quarter of this (standard prescribed amount for hair loss) has very similar results, reducing the chance of any side-effects. 2. Doctors that have been prescribing it for years on the regular dose report that the side-effects you spook people with are extremely rare. I personally never had any, even when I was on the full dose, but of course that is what it is.
@samvandervelden8243 Жыл бұрын
I highly doubt that the dose of 5mg has any clinically meaningful increase of side effects from 1mg considering the fact that the extra 4mg virtually has no effect on DHT because of the logarithmic relation between DHT reduction and Finasteride. Sexual side effects which are the most common.side effects on Finasteride are uncommon anyways affecting about 2,1-3,8% of users
@himpoet Жыл бұрын
@@samvandervelden8243the 5mg version is not prescribed for hair loss, it's for prostate enlargement.
@LydiaZ36 Жыл бұрын
They say it's uncommon but every guy I know (friends, business partner, BF) all admit it effected their sex drive. I think the manufacturer is hiding true percentages
@himpoet Жыл бұрын
@@LydiaZ36ironically, having said what I said (which is still factual), I myself experienced some issues and discontinued the drug.
@Sammy_Chouchou2 жыл бұрын
I really wished I hadn't taken dutasteride. My hair loss was likely due to telogen effluvium, and then I only learn ages later about the buried possibility that side effects could be long term or permanent
@akalion2132 жыл бұрын
You learn about the fake condition and scare yourself into having side effects?
@holidayfootprints41512 жыл бұрын
You are wonderful....I'm.vegan 12 years ...I love your you tube 💚
@doprisi2 жыл бұрын
Great info, thanks you! What is the name of the music played?
@cabecitadezapallo2 жыл бұрын
Why the increase in urinary flow rates is an anti-androgen effect? (13:43)
@bubblybull2463 Жыл бұрын
Do we know anything (scientifically), positive or negative, about washing hair with beaten eggs instead of chemical shampoos?
@Charles-tv6oi Жыл бұрын
Ginsing good for hair?
@barbarasaunders2160 Жыл бұрын
@5:24 what company was that??
@ugrosh79372 жыл бұрын
i used pumpkin seed oil suplement. And it works for hair loss BUT : after 6 months i did break 2 weeks and i notice i feel better , less melanholy, more manly more positive agresive. after that i notice i stoped suplementation. Its not worth!!! if you want keep hairs you need pay for that manly atributes, its not worthy :-) good luck fellas After 2-3 months without suple,ment i notice strong hair loss , so Pumpkin Seed oil is very good againt hair loss
@enough425 Жыл бұрын
As a female I want to try it-how much pumpkin seed oil works
@ugrosh7937 Жыл бұрын
@@enough425 i took only 1-2 gram soft gel pills as a suplement. and give it time to see results like 2-3 months
@782YKW2 жыл бұрын
I use "More Hair Naturally 7" and it works !!!
@Asa-wv1zb Жыл бұрын
As someone allergic to soy, what can I have instead to boost hair growth?
@-whackd Жыл бұрын
Just do what Michael Geiger does. He looks good.
@isabellatowler11 ай бұрын
pumpkin seeds and cayenne pepper
@TehMorbidAtheist2 жыл бұрын
TL: DR Supplements don't help unless you already have a deficiency Propecia helps but side effects can last for years even after you finish using it Eat pumpkin seeds for hair growth
@vcool2 жыл бұрын
What you said about supplements is totally false and bogus. There exists a deficiency level, a higher optimality level, and an even higher overdose level.
@akalion2132 жыл бұрын
His statement on propecia really makes me doubt that he really researches anything.
@danielskrauklis1994 Жыл бұрын
does anyone know if active ingredianet minoxidil is vegan?
@-whackd Жыл бұрын
Minoxidil cannot be vegan because only people are vegans. Minoxidil is a chemical
@lilo42352 жыл бұрын
What about red light for hair growth in led light form doesn't it activate ATP production of cells which may be senescent in PTSD leading to cellular death via stress causing hair loss and that red light can be therapeutic?
@adiposerex51502 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Your thumbnail and the title are very funny.
@BirdManJones2 жыл бұрын
I cant tell if this is a meme or not but I'll listen to it fully when I get the chance lol
@chiyerano2 жыл бұрын
I just see him as the messenger.
@BJAvegan Жыл бұрын
Whao! Erectile disfunction due to drugs to stop hairloss that doesn't even work! Very upsetting for sure!
@NoExitLoveNow2 жыл бұрын
I'm skeptical regarding whether you can get 6mg of capsaicin in 1/4 jalapeno. What I could find on internet was 1.12 mg per gram for DRIED jalapenos so you would need to eat a lot more.
@NoExitLoveNow2 жыл бұрын
@@lightdark00 What I could find that a Habanero has 9-58 mg (wide range) of capsaicin per gram of pepper so maybe 1/2 a Habanero is more like it.
@undefinedfirstnameundefine78202 жыл бұрын
@@NoExitLoveNow yep I started using calofornia reaper paste. Only need quarter a teaspoon but got damn it rocks your socks off. jalapenos don't seem to be a consistant reliable source to hit 6mg
@NoExitLoveNow2 жыл бұрын
Actually a Habanero supposedly weighs on average 8 grams. Based on this, you would only need to eat 1/8 of a habanero.
@marysmith77652 жыл бұрын
Fenugreek…..?
@TimeFlies-d8b2 жыл бұрын
Time for you to get a fecal implant doc
@leonieduplessis44672 жыл бұрын
HA HA
@Kurtis11266 Жыл бұрын
all heavy metal intake has done for me is cause hearing loss!
@jaysibiri7 ай бұрын
Ok so basically: 1. Eat Pumpkin seeds 2. Don’t drink brown smoothies
@G-rigger2 жыл бұрын
Not working obviously ☺️ It's just an accessory.. Propecia has been proven to work and the side effects are very uncommon or non-existent. Shave it anyway, blade 1 no fuss.
@-whackd Жыл бұрын
Lmao i love the picture of the bald bobble head on the screen
@lindapb65292 жыл бұрын
💜
@phoebegraveyard72252 жыл бұрын
Lol, oh the irony! Well done, Dr Gregor.
@hanglam2910 Жыл бұрын
did you say breast enlargement is a side effect?!
@aroundandround Жыл бұрын
Next up: how to look like a bodybuilder by Michael Greger.
@rashie2 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@fortitude1202 жыл бұрын
Why would you promote a very narrow kind of plant-based hairloss treatment that is widely known to be anti-androgenic? I like that you point out the side effects of finasteride and the role that lifestyle and diet play, but I would rather explore what the people that participated in the gut biome experiment actually ate. I highly doubt it's all down to meat consumption, but plants are probably beneficial.
@dukedex50432 жыл бұрын
Grow your hair back then i'll definitely take whatever advice you have.
@bh2155 Жыл бұрын
I think he said that most of hair loss is genetic. Obviously his hair loss is genetic. The purpose of the video is to help modify environmental factors that might cause hair loss in addition to genetics
@-whackd Жыл бұрын
@@bh2155Everything is a combination between genes and environment. Everything is "genetic".
@eelkeaptroot13932 жыл бұрын
Guess I know some folks who might benefit from some pumpkin seeds... getting them to stop eating fish might be harder though.
@nishasankaran Жыл бұрын
And for women?? Ie the microbiome etc
@reality_design Жыл бұрын
💕
@Agora13 Жыл бұрын
The downside of soy is gynecomastia, you preserve your hair but gain manboobs in return.
@harryseibert4572 жыл бұрын
Put it to the test?
@samiryan2142 жыл бұрын
No
@VeganChiefWarrior2 жыл бұрын
i hear pumpkin seeds.. i hear not ejaculating.. this sounds like a zinc thing to me
@bladekhaira Жыл бұрын
i can see my face reflection on his head..why is he giving advice on hair loss?? 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@erikl21442 жыл бұрын
Dr. Greger is a superstar, and he brings his views on the medical world with a great humor. But, wait- - Isn't Dr. Greger the LAST person on earth to educate us about us about hair loss?!?! (err, the elephant in the room... most of commenters ignored it...). (And If it is all genetics, then no diet regimen would help, as I am sure he, who knows exactly what to eat, would have come next lectures with a head full of hair). BUT I got it- since Dr. Greger has a great humor- this is all a joke, purposely posted and provoked... right? Thanks Dr. Greger, keep your humor and your so-funny lectures.
@paulmaxwell8851 Жыл бұрын
No-one ever said it was ALL genetics. Dr. Gregor certainly never has. "Genetics loads the gun but lifestyle pulls the trigger".
@Wearephuct-O2 жыл бұрын
Chinese pumpkin seed stocks just went up
@samiryan2142 жыл бұрын
I doubt it
@ant92282 жыл бұрын
Saw Palmetto?
@elephantintheroom5678 Жыл бұрын
Well, I suppose he didn't take the advice.
@Ron-rk6iz Жыл бұрын
And he talks about preventing hair loss...............he did something wrong ha ha ha
@aroundandround9 ай бұрын
Every video of this shaman is as useless as this one peddling specific outcomes that simply don’t work, as evidenced by his own condition.
@Bigbopper01 Жыл бұрын
April fools!
@David-no7zi2 жыл бұрын
Has to be satire surely?
@joshm3342 Жыл бұрын
I'm hesitant to devote time to watch a presentation on "preventing hair loss" by a doctor who has NOT PREVENTED HIS OWN HAIR LOSS.
@waterworthgardens Жыл бұрын
Don't take hair loss advice from a bald guy. What am I missing here?