Tongkat Ali | Effective But "Toxic" (New Research)

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Tongkat Ali has been getting a lot of attention over the past year or so, and for good reason. It appears to be one of the more promising supplements that may actually increase testosterone, even in young healthy men. However, there is some recent research that has surfaced over the past year that is worth diving into.

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@Jitticus
@Jitticus Жыл бұрын
From malaysia here: Took a course on botany back in Uni and was told by researcher there that the non toxic part of the Tongkat Ali plant is the root, which has the characteristic walking cane shape, thus tongkat (walking stick/cane). However, manufacturers sometimes use the entire plant to save on cost, hence the toxicity.
@cccspwn
@cccspwn Жыл бұрын
thank you, I'm going to look for supplements containing only the root
@Jitticus
@Jitticus Жыл бұрын
@@cccspwn not sure if the manufacturers will list it so precisely though.
@Lyndonandre
@Lyndonandre Жыл бұрын
@Sk Sohan Go into the Jungles of Malaysia and hunt for them 🤣
@arsenalmanic
@arsenalmanic Жыл бұрын
all these are garbage/useless and toxic.
@Jitticus
@Jitticus Жыл бұрын
@Sk Sohan I'm not sure. some companies deal directly with the Aborigines.
@stevemiller6044
@stevemiller6044 Жыл бұрын
thanks again for your work to deep dive into this material
@simonandfitness
@simonandfitness Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Everything in moderation is what I get from this. I may start cycling Tongkat Ali, I've pretty much reached a peak after having some initial improvement on taking it.
@donoldpump
@donoldpump Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Great research and breakdown of the science. I have only made anecdotal reviews but this stuff really effects my performance in many areas and I feel effects that can't possibly be placebo! The title had me thinking I was killing more than my gains! Lol. I hope ppl don't take the title as the information, as they often do unfortunately!
@CrackedZac
@CrackedZac Жыл бұрын
I started taking tongkat Ali and ashwaganda and instantly felt less depressed and sluggish, felt better in the gym, and my body felt bigger and stronger and my workouts felt like they were actually building my body vs just staving off catabolism. The BEST thing I noticed was my energy levels were STABLE! I didn’t necessarily GAIN more energy, but I STOPPED CRASHING, I always feel good and normal. Which if your someone who has gone so long with seemingly low T levels, this is a HUGE benefit
@victortrejo1133
@victortrejo1133 Жыл бұрын
Do you mind sharing what company made your ali supplement from? Inhale a lot of trust issues with some of google and Amazon’s recommendations
@CrackedZac
@CrackedZac Жыл бұрын
@@victortrejo1133 sure! I use Dorado nutrition for Tongkat Ali and NaturaLife Labs for the Ashwagandha
@TheJimmyswe150
@TheJimmyswe150 Жыл бұрын
@@victortrejo1133 nootropic depot 👌🏻
@Tom_Torres
@Tom_Torres Жыл бұрын
@@victortrejo1133 "Sigma" from gorilla mind. Excellent product!!
@krayziejerry
@krayziejerry Жыл бұрын
what is your dosage and routine?
@ashchaya7676
@ashchaya7676 Жыл бұрын
Great vid. Subbed just for your ability to present the facts without an agenda 👌
@thinking-ape6483
@thinking-ape6483 Жыл бұрын
Great channel, just discovered it!
@Drew-wf9bg
@Drew-wf9bg Жыл бұрын
i had no idea cycling it was beneficial i’ll definitely incorporate that info. thanks!
@Rikimkigsck
@Rikimkigsck 9 ай бұрын
I started taking it 3 weeks ago and my life has literally changed it's insane. I was always sleepy during day and now that issue is gone completely. My muscles look also somewhat bigger. I didn't do blood work but I am 100% sure my testosterone has gone up.
@Japhu
@Japhu 6 ай бұрын
No check? Bro you’re going to regret that
@Noah24Cline
@Noah24Cline 3 ай бұрын
​@Japhu why do you say that?
@ndlsumr
@ndlsumr Жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive review of the literature on Eurycoma / Tongkat Ali. I used to do product R&D for a company about 20 years ago, and one of the products I did included both LJ100 Tongkat Ali and a high protodioscin content (>40%) Bulgarian tribulus extract. Protodioscin is useful for increasing luteinizing hormone and, thus, testosterone, but Tongkat Ali was particularly useful for keeping that increased testosterone free / unbound. They seemed to work synergistically.
@krayziejerry
@krayziejerry Жыл бұрын
What's the dosage you taken?
@ndlsumr
@ndlsumr Жыл бұрын
@@krayziejerry 500 mg of tribulus standardized to 40% protodioscin and 50 mg of LJ100, twice daily with food, 5 days on / 2 days off for a month. Cycle off for 2 weeks, repeat.
@liamconverse8950
@liamconverse8950 Жыл бұрын
That sounds familiar I might have taken that one, what was it called? Btw I think tribulus might actually increase progesterone more than testosterone
@tomas-dr9kc
@tomas-dr9kc Жыл бұрын
@@ndlsumr commenting to save for later
@___Anakin.Skywalker
@___Anakin.Skywalker Жыл бұрын
What kind of scientist does rd on vitamins and supplements
@shadowr2d2
@shadowr2d2 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this video. You have a new subscriber. Keep up the great work..
@BuleBolang
@BuleBolang Жыл бұрын
Been using it for years in Indonesia, always had great effects and zero negative effects at all.
@adeevakuliner4269
@adeevakuliner4269 Жыл бұрын
Eh ada bang bule bolang
@mustafarasool1261
@mustafarasool1261 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan! Any particular brand you consume or just the raw stems? Thanks!
@BuleBolang
@BuleBolang Жыл бұрын
@@mustafarasool1261 hi mate, none particular mate, I just order the one online from a Chinese herbal store in Jakarta mate. Can definitely notice the difference, really worthwhile.
@mustafarasool1261
@mustafarasool1261 Жыл бұрын
@@BuleBolang cheers mate 🤙🏽
@hamzakhan6159
@hamzakhan6159 Жыл бұрын
thank you for this great video, I have been following your videos on testosterone optimizing videos religiously. I have a quick question, a bit out of topic though. Can alpha gpc be taken everyday? I have heard a 25 to 75mg dose per day for maintenance is not a bad idea; or you are of the view that it should be cycled?
@lewis20002000
@lewis20002000 Жыл бұрын
Very well done, it seems like moderation is key, and cycling on/off works best.
@kevinley8321
@kevinley8321 Жыл бұрын
That was very interesting and well presented. Thank you.
@lukeslankard
@lukeslankard Жыл бұрын
Most underrated KZbin channel right here
@chayblay
@chayblay Жыл бұрын
Takeaway: should cycle T. Ali but no prescribed protocol as of yet. 4 weeks on, 2 weeks off seems like a good idea, buffering the off period with Ashwghanda, Fadogia Aggrestis, Zinc, etc.
@Gianalol
@Gianalol Жыл бұрын
No pct is required, right?
@TheGeneralR14
@TheGeneralR14 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Could you do a video about Fadogia and its potential toxicity as some discussions have been circulating about that.
@Humzeus1
@Humzeus1 Жыл бұрын
thank you for the info i subbed
@CitizenoftheWorld1
@CitizenoftheWorld1 Жыл бұрын
I been taking tongkat/fadogia for a month and been feeling Tony the Tiger great. But after another month I'll switch to ashwagandha & shilajit for 2-4 weeks. Thanks for the tip!
@ronnieg1341
@ronnieg1341 Жыл бұрын
Nice I’m going to switch off to the too thank you
@Zebulon1977
@Zebulon1977 Жыл бұрын
Hi Zach, thanks a lot for all these inputs! I've already tried the 2% powder from ND (I bought 2x30grams jars) 200mg per day , nothing, then tried 400mg per day... for several weeks... not much obvious results (but not blood test, that's true) I've hence started 10 days ago another trial with the 10% version , still from ND. Nothing magical so far. I read that maximum results occur after 2 weeks, so I'll be patient... anyway... I would appreciate your views on cistanche ? it seems that it can be stacked with Tongkat quite nicely ? Thanks again ! 🙂
@Marcoosianism
@Marcoosianism Жыл бұрын
Also bought 2 jars @ 2% from ND. First day however, so am interested to read further replies and comments on why you may not be experiencing any desired effects.
@1111111111202
@1111111111202 Жыл бұрын
take the lj100 version. its standarized and potent. take 300mg to 400mg
@bigboicreme
@bigboicreme Жыл бұрын
@@1111111111202 LJ100?? can you be any more vague. Nootropics depot has 2 strengths. 2% and 10%
@user-en5vj6vr2u
@user-en5vj6vr2u 4 ай бұрын
Update
@johnfryman4428
@johnfryman4428 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the info
@vinnyhaddad
@vinnyhaddad Жыл бұрын
Wow, great relaying of information. Subscribed.
@reginaldwilliams3875
@reginaldwilliams3875 Жыл бұрын
No ums, no ahhhs, just pure information, absolutely marvelous
@felixf4378
@felixf4378 Жыл бұрын
Wym, he said ummms a bunch of times.
@sonat2008
@sonat2008 Жыл бұрын
I would be interested in watching a video where you put together a list of what products you would take and in what cycles. For example, four weeks of Tongkat ali followed by four weeks of ashwaghanda etc.
@tsarchis
@tsarchis Жыл бұрын
Search for : "How To Cycle Herbal Supplements To Increase Testosterone" from Nutrition Library it self.
@thomasmclean2211
@thomasmclean2211 Жыл бұрын
Informative. Thank you man
@NucleousMaplestory
@NucleousMaplestory Жыл бұрын
amazing vid! thank you
@JohannTheBotha
@JohannTheBotha Жыл бұрын
Ashwaganda fucked me up badly dude... Caused hyper sympathetic activation and my mind raced like crazy. I thought I was having a mental break of some kind and was worried I might end up in hospital. This was after one dose. I tries it again a couple weeks later and the same thing happened. Plus there is evidence it causes liver failures. So yeah be careful out there.
@jerredpyles
@jerredpyles Жыл бұрын
Hey man I would greatly appreciate if you could make a video on your top vitamins/minerals everyone should be taking for overall health and fitness. I haven’t been able to find a lot of good science based ones.
@skylarcarlson7745
@skylarcarlson7745 Жыл бұрын
Check out More Plates More Dates video on what he uses daily.
@trevorhunka8985
@trevorhunka8985 Жыл бұрын
@@skylarcarlson7745 I've also really liked the recommendations on supplements from Dr. Alex Huberman, the popular neuroscientist from Stanford.
@skylarcarlson7745
@skylarcarlson7745 Жыл бұрын
@@trevorhunka8985 I've been binge watching Huberman videos for about a month. It has made a major impact on my life.
@Aaron.Drake.Ames.
@Aaron.Drake.Ames. Жыл бұрын
Andrew hubermans top 2 is tongak ali and potassium glutamine
@kasimgulfam4003
@kasimgulfam4003 Жыл бұрын
Irish Sea Moss
@qintonchank.q9070
@qintonchank.q9070 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review 😀
@Faith.in.His.Grace.
@Faith.in.His.Grace. Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info
@gmoneypimp9942
@gmoneypimp9942 Жыл бұрын
@nutrition library - see a handful of comments on here about opinions on how to cycle. I remember in a previous video that you said you've been taking this for 5 years or so... what do you recommend for the cycle period?
@rdallas81
@rdallas81 Жыл бұрын
Gmoneypimp? Is that you homie G dog? Sup my ninja!
@patrickm9494
@patrickm9494 Жыл бұрын
Can you please explain the difference in dosing and effectiveness with using the 2% and 10% eurycomanone?
@acenumber269
@acenumber269 Жыл бұрын
great information, thanks.
@kpage156
@kpage156 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Quality work 👌
@akaraliofficial
@akaraliofficial Жыл бұрын
Tongkat Ali work effectively to boost testosterone and DHEA if it's taken with regular exercises (or ideally weight training + cardio). That is why Tongkat Ali remains as a dietary supplement, and should not be seen as a medicinal drugs. The misconception by most Tongkat Ali users is that they expect testosterone gain just by taking supplements, and assume their peak testosterone levels stay there forever! The reality is, our testosterone levels fluctuate throughout the day. And these caveats were not covered in any videos. Don't expect taking Tongkat Ali like putting fuel additives in your car, and expect the car to perform at its peak torque or BHP every time. Most studies on testosterone studies and clinical trials on Tongkat Ali in the last 20 years have sufficient evidence to show it may boost testosterone across men in various age-groups. There are more benefits than just testosterone, but the overall effect of Tongkat Ali is compounded by other hormones as well. The key is to manage the expectations of the end result of taking Tongkat Ali on overall men's health - measured by strength, energy, sexual desire, fertility, mental state and overall well-being.
@Braindazzled
@Braindazzled Жыл бұрын
This was really interesting for me! I've tried Tonkat Ali a few times. I never experienced increase in strength or libido (though have had that happen with other herbs), but weirdly, it made me more extroverted! It also gave me insomnia.
@Leoninmiami
@Leoninmiami Жыл бұрын
try a lower dose ... 200mg 4 days /week. If no insomnia, up to 400
@OtherEnglishLoyalist
@OtherEnglishLoyalist 3 ай бұрын
I've tried it a few times now and it just doesn't agree with me at all. Made me feel like I was gonna have a heart attack and gave me high blood pressure. Apparently this does happen to a small amount of people, unfortunately for me. My mate has the exact same one and he's fine on it though. I just take ashwaganda and tribulous now.
@choopa1670
@choopa1670 Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown. Appreciate it 👍🏽
@Youppp
@Youppp Жыл бұрын
Great work 👏🏾
@jorgec55
@jorgec55 Жыл бұрын
Very informative, thanks. I have been taking the following: I'm 67, workout with kettlebells 5 days/week (40m each workout) and walk 30m x 3 times/week, try to keep a healthy diet on a 16/8 protocol (@60% plant based) and no alcohol except for an occasional glass of wine or a beer and 7 hours of sleep daily. My present cycle is: Tongkat Ali (Horbaach)1800mg/week + DHEA (various) 100mg/week + Tribulus (various) 1600mg/week. I started Tongkat @2015-16 but didn't have a rigorous workout plan and wasn't as healthy as I feel now. Therefore, I have become my own guinea pig. Results since 2019: increased lean mass and fat loss, higher levels of stamina, pleasant mood, better sleep, and active libido. In other words, I feel like when I was 40 something but leaner and stronger. My cycle goes on a 5/2 basis AND take a full month off everything every semester. I must add that I work as a data analyst online and my mind is alert all the time......
@78swats
@78swats Жыл бұрын
Wow, you are awesome. can you plz simplify the cycle 5/2? what does it mean? So, no side effects from long term use of Tongkat Ali? sorry, I am a newbee. Also, how do you take 1800mg/week ? what is thhe daily dose?
@jorgec55
@jorgec55 Жыл бұрын
@@78swats 5/2 is monday to friday for workout and supplements and weekends without. Tongkat is 1600mg/week in only two caps (Horbaach, but you can get Solaris which is 400mg per cap) Usually monday and wednesday I take Tongkat and tuesday and thursday DHEA and Tribulusbut I'm running out nd can't get high quality from Bulgaria) No negative side effects whatsoever. Be aware that this works for me and you might have to experiment with your dosage, workout protocol, rest times and diet..., good luck
@78swats
@78swats Жыл бұрын
@@jorgec55 Thank you for your response. I am 56 now, and just started researching, not sure which way I want to go because there so many things available. There is viagra etc, then Tongkat Ali, then some people say use Boron and Zinc. I didn't know about DHEA and Tribulus before, but just came to know now hihi after reading your post. What are the high quality brands available for DHEA and Tribulus? I am not much of a body builder but started working out more and started getting healthier. It's inspiring to read stories like yours. It gives me hope that I still have lot of life left. Thank you once again.
@jorgec55
@jorgec55 Жыл бұрын
@@78swats if I was you, I would start with only Tongkat and DHEA and begin a fitness routine. Maybe a protein shake after workouts too.... Brands? Horbaach, Solaris, NOW etc
@freddycampoverde4660
@freddycampoverde4660 Жыл бұрын
Hey Zach, Love the informative videos that you are providing for everyone on all the different types of supplements out there. Although, I was wondering if you could do some videos on different supplements that would be recommended for women. Looking forward to these type of videos for all females out there and also to recommend the females in my family.
@VinayVerma5
@VinayVerma5 Жыл бұрын
Ashwagandha and shatavar together for females
@VinayVerma5
@VinayVerma5 Жыл бұрын
Also fathima a herb from malaysia used locally for women's
@parmsingh9773
@parmsingh9773 Жыл бұрын
dis nigga gotta be a doctor he smart as shit
@zach3955
@zach3955 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@bruhmoment9413
@bruhmoment9413 Жыл бұрын
No women suck
@Nf.1
@Nf.1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your excellent info video
@davidrichards3851
@davidrichards3851 Жыл бұрын
Great information 👍🏼
@andre.shaw91
@andre.shaw91 Жыл бұрын
I am 31 years old. It certainly increases and likely works through DHEA. I have done multiple bloods after taking. For me, LH doesn't move much, DHEAs surpass the range and total T increases between 20-30%, free testosterone hardly increases. Glad that there is finally good research on this to confirm what I thought. I am also not surprised that your body 'adapts' to Tongkat, it does this with most things as it attempts to maintain homeostasis. I have found that small cycling 5 days on a 2 days off has prevented tongkat from losing its impact and I have been taking it like this for a year now. We need good human research now on Fadogia Agrestis now, the combination of both these plants is very promising for increasing testosterone.
@mohamadhariz9613
@mohamadhariz9613 Жыл бұрын
is it really works?
@andre.shaw91
@andre.shaw91 Жыл бұрын
@@mohamadhariz9613 did for me and does for many others. Read the studies and look at others reviews. Take your bloods before and after and you will see if it works for you.
@racouline719
@racouline719 Жыл бұрын
Hi James, since you suspect it works through DHEA, have you checked your estrogen ? Edit, I have found this about tongkat ali : Being an endocrine adaptogen, tongkat interacts with a variety of hormones and hormone precursors, such as: Testosterone (increases) Estrogen (decreases) IGF-1 (increases) Cortisol (decreases) DHEA (increases) Pregnenolone (increases) That means if you take too much of it it could increase your estrogen, and that would explain why some people report cases of gynecomastia
@mausmausmaus1
@mausmausmaus1 Жыл бұрын
Have you had any subjective/noticeable effects? You mention that your free T doesn't move at all, and free T is, as far as I know, the form of T that is the most responsible for the physical and mental effects of T. One of the hypotheses as to how tongkat ali works to increase T and produce subjective effects is that it acts to reduce SHBG and thereby indirectly increasing *free* T, but seems like this is not the case as per your bloodwork?
@hugoheros4928
@hugoheros4928 Жыл бұрын
This 5 days on 2 days off cycle seems to be the best for most supplements
@EsquireUnlimited
@EsquireUnlimited Жыл бұрын
My experience with Tongkat was I felt awesome and seen an increase in stamina, drive and muscle growth. But after a few months, my hair started thinning and falling out, which has never happened and hair loss does not run in my family. So a really bad side effect of this otherwise awesome herb. I am not taking it anymore.
@immortalmikeyy
@immortalmikeyy Жыл бұрын
I too noticed this.
@SuperBrosHQ
@SuperBrosHQ Жыл бұрын
how long did the hair loss last?
@EsquireUnlimited
@EsquireUnlimited Жыл бұрын
@@SuperBrosHQ my hair has returned to normal now but it took about 3 months after I stopped taking tongkat.
@bodhiyoga9465
@bodhiyoga9465 Жыл бұрын
Good video 👍🏻 Thanks for sharing 🙏🏻
@Marklimrn
@Marklimrn Жыл бұрын
Great video bro, keep doing good work
@jundeleon8704
@jundeleon8704 Жыл бұрын
For me tongkat ali + creatine together have been game changer. However, I wasn't doing cycling but now I am going to. Thanks bro for this great info.
@ngkngk875
@ngkngk875 Жыл бұрын
Have you been having more gamer moments?
@balsamicballsack6692
@balsamicballsack6692 Жыл бұрын
Tongkat Ali increases the likeliness of pro gamer moves by 34.66%. If you cycle it, you’re lookin at getting a few e-girls on your friends list.
@jundeleon8704
@jundeleon8704 Жыл бұрын
Haha sorry guys I wanted to write game changer lol. I am not a native English speaker though
@johnpeppard6027
@johnpeppard6027 Жыл бұрын
@Selmon bhoi's Driver it helps with short duration high intensity workout proformance for some people.
@hunterthompson6737
@hunterthompson6737 Жыл бұрын
i have been taking high dose tongat ali non stop for 3 years and no negative side effects xD
@transistorradiorecords3661
@transistorradiorecords3661 4 ай бұрын
At 63, very few supplements help my energy levels. B-Complex helps but so does Longjack (Tonkat). I just don't take it everyday, I take it when I need it. Subscribed.
@jeffcarter4500
@jeffcarter4500 Жыл бұрын
New to the channel, thanks very much for all the knowledge. Is there a reason you don't have an affiliate link or click through vendor mechanism for your recommendations?
@Oblivionplayer12345
@Oblivionplayer12345 11 ай бұрын
As others have said, TKA is just fantastic for avoiding those energy crashes and it genuinelly was a game changer for me to consistently go to the gym on a regular basis, placebo or not it is working.
@Libertas_P77
@Libertas_P77 Жыл бұрын
My main issue with Tongkat Ali has been for prolonged periods I seem to have started to feel negative impacts and benefit from time off it. I also read it works by suppressing estrogen which is partly how you get higher free T elevation. I don’t know if this is true, but some people who have taken it say the estrogen suppression can lead to aching joints amongst other things. I am therefore going to be fairly respectful of it and only cycle onto it for a couple of weeks at a time and couple back off again too.
@marthepedersen1454
@marthepedersen1454 Жыл бұрын
why not take less and use for longer times, doub`t it will crush your estrogen:) bloodwork..
@williamhodgson6250
@williamhodgson6250 Жыл бұрын
I do five days on two off, I’m supplement free at weekends save for my multivitamin. I’m 61 and have had no issues.
@Libertas_P77
@Libertas_P77 Жыл бұрын
@@williamhodgson6250 Good to know, thanks for the update.
@Libertas_P77
@Libertas_P77 Жыл бұрын
@@marthepedersen1454 I recommend reading up on how TA leads to higher T. It relates to estrogen in the human body, and suppressing it, just as estrogenic compounds in foods for example do the opposite and suppress free T.
@facciolite
@facciolite Жыл бұрын
It’s not worth it. I am finally starting to recover from the severe joint damage and pain I experienced over the last few months using tongkat. Never using it again.
@stefanmangner7394
@stefanmangner7394 Жыл бұрын
Great Video, thank you very much.
@stever3486
@stever3486 Жыл бұрын
I have tried a couple of different types of Tongkat Ali both at all sorts of doses but have found it gives me a Negative effect on libido and my man hood in general etc.. Fadogia I found taking it every other day helps improve all of that and even my energy levels.. and certainly helps with the amount of semon production etc too!.. and I have been doing this for a couple of weeks now and it seems like the same effects still! I do seem to get a tolerance very quick for most supplements! So fingers crossed I have worked out something now with Fadogia that will stay the same! 🤞
@Fernando-ly1qg
@Fernando-ly1qg Жыл бұрын
Hello Zach! Congrats for the amazing content! One question: You mentioned cicling Tongkat ali with other herbs, such Fadogia agrestis. However, in another video you said it's toxic. Have I lost another video? It has changed or it is not safe to take for long periods? What's the catch?
@JeffMcDuffie72MeridianGate
@JeffMcDuffie72MeridianGate Жыл бұрын
Everything is toxic. Just take the drugs and stop worrying about it.
@shaheena.3803
@shaheena.3803 Жыл бұрын
He says that you probably shouldn’t take fadogia longer than a month to avoid the toxicity. It’s impossible to say if it is actually toxic because there are no human studies. He’s just saying that 30 days is probably a good estimate of a safe amount of time but it’s not a guarantee.
@JeffMcDuffie72MeridianGate
@JeffMcDuffie72MeridianGate Жыл бұрын
@@shaheena.3803 its weakly toxic. Drinking alcohol is worse.
@myrcworld9345
@myrcworld9345 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks for the info. I also saw on another video that TA frees up more of your testosterone and keeps it from binding, I'm not sure what the exactly mechanism is that causes that but I just thought that I'd point that out. Personally for me I just started taking it a few days ago because I can't do trt because I have a blood clotting disorder trt raises your hematocrit so I'm hoping that TA will help me raise my T levels even if it's a few hundred points but I will still follow up with blood labs after 2 months on TA.
@topiaskilpelainen1213
@topiaskilpelainen1213 Жыл бұрын
How are you feeling right now? Any effect?
@myrcworld9345
@myrcworld9345 Жыл бұрын
@@topiaskilpelainen1213 I've been on it for almost 2 months and I feel great, my workouts are good, libido is up, energy and motivation are up too. I'm honestly getting the same results that I was getting from testosterone replacement therapy which I discontinued due to some health concerns, I recommend it, I'm taking 5 on and 2 days off and I'm using the TA from solaray and nootropics depo, I highly recommended TA.
@timinator1517
@timinator1517 Жыл бұрын
Let us know if your bloods change
@ask8548
@ask8548 Жыл бұрын
After 4 months. Any new results?
@myrcworld9345
@myrcworld9345 Жыл бұрын
@@ask8548 well I did TA for 2 months and after the 2 months the results seemed to diminish a bit so I stopped for a week and am taking a maca root complex (red, white and black) and I'm getting similar results, so I guess I'm cycling off TA which is suggested and after 2 months on maca I'm stopping for 2 weeks and going back on TA for another 2 months and after that I'm looking into supplementing with boron triple complex which has been proven to raise testosterone so I'm trying different things and have lost 28 lbs, great work outs, good libido and overall feeling great for being 54. I suggest trying different things to see what works for you. Unfortunately I have not done labs since my insurance is out..
@WarriorV8
@WarriorV8 Жыл бұрын
Now that i look at it , this channel is not so bad as i have presumed well done
@Moist_yet_Crispy
@Moist_yet_Crispy Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@def5100
@def5100 Жыл бұрын
instead of doing 4-8 week cycles you can do 5-2 day cycles, 5 days on and 2 days off and that will help to do so your body dont get used to the product :)
@1TieDye1
@1TieDye1 21 күн бұрын
You’re just pulling advice out of your ass lol
@butter__boi703
@butter__boi703 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been taking tongkat Ali for 6 days now. Even by day 3 I felt a huge difference. My energy has never been higher, my diet and sleep have stayed the same. Lifestyle hasn’t changed but I have energy all day, more drive I feel on top of the world to be frank. I’m 17, I’m taking tongkat Ali on top of ashwaganda, cod liver oil, butter oil, creative, d3 and started smth else as of yesterday. The other things I’ve been taking for quite some time but nothing has had the amount of change tongkat Ali has on my energy
@svenhall2078
@svenhall2078 Жыл бұрын
hahaha...after 3 days....placebo effect for sure
@0ptimal
@0ptimal Жыл бұрын
@@svenhall2078 not necessarily. But he's mighty young to be potentially manipulating his hormones using exogenous compounds. Be healthy young man, your body is a marvel and will optimize the rest.
@nicholasdogan9732
@nicholasdogan9732 Жыл бұрын
I'm 41. Just a note of concern- at 17 you shouldn't need ANY of that stuff. Your hormones haven't even peaked yet. You are still in puberty, let your natural levels do their thing. I wouldn't be adding that level of herbs until you are on the reverse (after 35 usually).
@SwarfCrawler
@SwarfCrawler Жыл бұрын
Bro if you're 17 don't be taking that shit ffs you don't need it. You're going to fuck your hormones up
@kw1213
@kw1213 Жыл бұрын
Taking supplements like this at 17 makes no sense. Train hard naturally for at least 5 years and then think about it. The only exception would be if your blood work shows you have abnormally low testosterone.
@Luizfernando-dm2rf
@Luizfernando-dm2rf 2 күн бұрын
Amazing video, thanks for the info.
@Joonzi
@Joonzi Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the update 👍🏼
@John-qy8qd
@John-qy8qd Жыл бұрын
Considering testosterone itself is considered "toxic" and masculinity in general considered "toxic" I won't be taking this study seriously.
@TheREVISISLAND24
@TheREVISISLAND24 Жыл бұрын
Respectfully this should win an award for dumbest comment
@jordafay9603
@jordafay9603 Жыл бұрын
If you watch it it’s actually very informative and he essentially debunked the only study on toxicity
@Kobinals
@Kobinals Жыл бұрын
HAHHAHAHAHA
@Jambo66328
@Jambo66328 Жыл бұрын
Well... If you care more about what "the message" has to say, instead of what science has, just don't take anything and make yourself a transgender 😂
@Brannon1009
@Brannon1009 Жыл бұрын
Destroy your liver to own the libs
@Stickythekid
@Stickythekid Жыл бұрын
I stopped taking tongkat ali because it gave me chubbies at the worst times. It definitely works in that regard. Had to do a sneaky belt tuck at the DMV
@interesanteStuff
@interesanteStuff Жыл бұрын
Dang you can tuck it?
@m.m14433
@m.m14433 Жыл бұрын
LOL
@jasonchu852
@jasonchu852 Жыл бұрын
very useful ! 👍
@EscapePlanSkateboarding
@EscapePlanSkateboarding Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on Tongkat extract vs whole root powder?
@spiralout3942
@spiralout3942 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been taking Tongkat and Fadogia for around a month now and it’s helped a lot. I’m 30 but it’s definitely given me more energy during my training. Hopefully all stays well haha
@braulindisla-elburrodelaba5361
@braulindisla-elburrodelaba5361 Жыл бұрын
Fagodia is toxic
@og_efan0279
@og_efan0279 Жыл бұрын
Still going good?
@homerdadon6363
@homerdadon6363 Жыл бұрын
how do you sleep ???
@rdallas81
@rdallas81 Жыл бұрын
@@homerdadon6363 with eyes closed
@factspirate99
@factspirate99 Жыл бұрын
@@braulindisla-elburrodelaba5361 Everything is toxic.
@EddieLifts
@EddieLifts Жыл бұрын
That’s why Gorilla Mind recommended 3 weeks on, one week off to avoid any negative side effects.
@stevenwithaph9785
@stevenwithaph9785 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful review. Have you ever reviewed red ginseng?
@chrisdelacruz1355
@chrisdelacruz1355 Жыл бұрын
Hey, how do you go about finding these journals or labs? Just curious to find research about other things as well on my own.
@rpa7066
@rpa7066 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely effective. Can’t speak on toxicity. Much bigger during workouts. On the fertility side. Yep was bigger and thicker. Just giving my experience not trying to drive up prices.
@rdallas81
@rdallas81 Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@tigerfist5120
@tigerfist5120 10 ай бұрын
How long before it kicked in on the downstairs aspect?
@nes4833
@nes4833 Жыл бұрын
Been trying to dig into these herbs a bit. Sometimes it seems like it would be easier to go on trt. Such a tough decision to make though
@comptonjapan
@comptonjapan Жыл бұрын
It's pretty easy. You want your nuts looking like raisins or not.
@taylorrobson744
@taylorrobson744 Жыл бұрын
definitely try natural route before going on trt.
@not_milk
@not_milk Жыл бұрын
Trt is injected with vegetable oil as the fluid. Definitely don’t want that going into your bloodstream if you can help it.
@paulpieterse5052
@paulpieterse5052 Жыл бұрын
That sounds incredible!
@kmarshall100
@kmarshall100 11 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you. What about the mercury content/concern with tongkat?
@baumdesign8237
@baumdesign8237 Жыл бұрын
One insight for all, for all who does strength or even cardio training* (*everything less then 60 min, 100-15000m). start with leg exercises like squat, death lifts etc. It will trigger your natural testosterone level. Sow now you've for around 45min a incline curve of testo's available. No sex/mastrubation will enhance your testo level for 400%. and the last thing i only use is motivation, your dark/shadowside pain/suffering aggresion. Always focus on your healthy intake of food, focus on raw veggies, read green ones because oxygen is allowing THE POWER in your blood.
@lindsey607
@lindsey607 Жыл бұрын
I consume 3grams at a time, and seem to be getting some good results. I also take it with stinging nettle root capsules, as they are an aromatase inhibitor.
@dariuswilliams7509
@dariuswilliams7509 Жыл бұрын
3grams gawd damn
@rdallas81
@rdallas81 Жыл бұрын
@@dariuswilliams7509 never tempt the Lord.
@rdallas81
@rdallas81 Жыл бұрын
I pick things up and put them down
@rdallas81
@rdallas81 Жыл бұрын
Happy Friday the 13th Jason Voorhees! 1980s? Camp Crystal Lake? Horny teenagers "making love"? Nevernind. Hope you been "killing it" Jason!
@parmsingh9773
@parmsingh9773 Жыл бұрын
love bro hope everyone has a good day
@yescando1192
@yescando1192 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Would you consider to make a video about Tongkat, Cistanche, and Apigenin in regards to dosage, verisions/ brands and things to consider and to be aware of. Big thanks in advance‼️ Sincerely
@AsBelowSoAbove
@AsBelowSoAbove Жыл бұрын
After 14days, go 5 days on 2 days off. This helps alot with the things you mention, like test going back to baseline after 8 weeks etc! Just because its all natural doesent mean you should take it nonstop forever without looking back. The body does not «adjust» as well when you cycle, this comes down to literally ANYTHING, coffee, ADHD meds, nootropics you name it.
@santiagogonzalezh1433
@santiagogonzalezh1433 Жыл бұрын
Hey, can u please explain me better the cycle, I don't get the 5 days on 2 days off
@AnimeVideoEditor
@AnimeVideoEditor Жыл бұрын
@@santiagogonzalezh1433 Well, you take the pills for 5 days straight and 2 days not. Quiet simple
@santiagogonzalezh1433
@santiagogonzalezh1433 Жыл бұрын
@@AnimeVideoEditor thanks king, nice pic btw
@AsBelowSoAbove
@AsBelowSoAbove Жыл бұрын
@@santiagogonzalezh1433 i take tonkat from monday-friday and i have a break in the weekend. So 5 days on the stuff and 2 days pause. Then repeat next week.
@Mr_A1-37
@Mr_A1-37 Жыл бұрын
@@AsBelowSoAbove how many mg?
@hackfabrication139
@hackfabrication139 Жыл бұрын
I've been supplementing with 600mg Fadogia Agrestis & 400mgTongkat Ali, for the past two weeks. I must say that I'm not as tired (during the day), as I was prior, and have no adverse side effects. I have low testosterone (tested), and will be anxious to get re-tested in another couple of weeks. I'm 72, weigh 150lbs, for reference.
@hunterbutler9822
@hunterbutler9822 11 ай бұрын
Results?
@Rover-gg8jj
@Rover-gg8jj 11 ай бұрын
Results?
@mriceagegrillz1
@mriceagegrillz1 11 ай бұрын
Results
@hackfabrication139
@hackfabrication139 9 ай бұрын
Haven't been re-tested. I'm dealing with a few other health issues right now.
@PaulPinguin
@PaulPinguin 8 ай бұрын
@@hackfabrication139Hope you’re okay!
@MrGhulamK
@MrGhulamK Жыл бұрын
Hey man - thank you for another great video! I have a question for you, you mention that tongkat ali needs/should be recycled, is this also the case if you use a minor doze, lets say half the recommended daily ? Best regards
@CoachSergej
@CoachSergej Жыл бұрын
Yes, cycle it on low dose aswell
@bigwon5883
@bigwon5883 Жыл бұрын
I tried a bottle and thought it worked very well. I'll be taking it again. DIM is also a great supplement.
@farhanbaig678
@farhanbaig678 Жыл бұрын
I was taking some but had some wierd brain fog, so I just take Shilajit now. Definitely feel clear headed and a strength boost with it
@ccraig4399
@ccraig4399 Жыл бұрын
I also get weird brainfog from Tongkat Ali. Cant take it. Same with Ashwagandha
@commandpromptexe471
@commandpromptexe471 Жыл бұрын
@@ccraig4399 did you cycle it?
@ccraig4399
@ccraig4399 Жыл бұрын
@@commandpromptexe471 i barley started, day two my mind was completley off. Gave it away
@sancho7863
@sancho7863 Жыл бұрын
Dude, i’m pretty sure it’s all the chemicals and plastics we’ve been exposed to all these years
@david6178
@david6178 Жыл бұрын
Along with the water we drink, lack of sun light we get and last but not least, how fucking lazy we’ve become.
@EditUMedia
@EditUMedia Жыл бұрын
Watch the end of the video
@DJ42487
@DJ42487 Жыл бұрын
I theorize porn addiction and our easy access to it. It's a fairly new phenomena and I think it's responsible for messing men up psychologically and hormonal functions. It'd be interesting to compare it's timeline with the influx of plastics.
@salmucio9197
@salmucio9197 Жыл бұрын
Yup.
@Biolo-G_KJ
@Biolo-G_KJ Жыл бұрын
So as a biologist I'm pretty sure it has more to do with our sedentary lifestyle. We are more relaxed, more chill, have no competition. This lowered it in general. Combined with higher bodyfat and less sun and it's easy to see a drop. Higher fertility might indeed be due to plastics interupting the endocrine system at a young age. But that's not a 1.1 with test levels. Example: my testosterone is 450ng/dl at 26 years old. I have alot of chesthair, beardhair, deep voice and better muscle growth than 99% of the people I know. My fertility is also very high (I actually tested it with a test and watched it myself under a microscope to confirm). It's not only about test levels. It also has to do with how your hormonal system reacts to it. Some people need very little test to perform, other need alot. My sensitivity to it seems very high. And now comes my points. Plastics don't lower your test, they lower your endocrine sensitivity by blocking pathways etc., sometimes forever. This is also why people get infertile.
@Kingdia97
@Kingdia97 Жыл бұрын
Hey man what your thoughts on keto vs vegan diet? And what kind of diet in general would you recommend?
@stevenbtje
@stevenbtje Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! New to your channel but very sure going to subscribe! :)
@massoudnoorzad7003
@massoudnoorzad7003 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I had a blood test the 19th August done where my testerone was at 339 ng/dL. I have now been using Tongkat Ali for around 3 weeks and I will be getting another blood test the 1st of November. I am for reference 20 years old and relatively active. I will be doing a update when I get the blood result (if I don't forget it)
@chriswright6245
@chriswright6245 Жыл бұрын
Following
@Arikos08
@Arikos08 Жыл бұрын
Following
@RedUtopia
@RedUtopia Жыл бұрын
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@4nimaMundi
@4nimaMundi Жыл бұрын
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@iksnyzrog
@iksnyzrog Жыл бұрын
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@PizzamudGames
@PizzamudGames Жыл бұрын
Fastest click of my life. Good to know that the toxic dose seems unreasonably high. I really ought to cycle my Tongkat but I start to feel weak and lazy every time I take a break. Thanks for the summary!
@lazarorivera3384
@lazarorivera3384 Жыл бұрын
In my PH. We weren’t allowed to use meta analysis. Because some studies can contradict each other. Also you can just pick and choose research/ study which make any meta analysis bias.
@radatabass
@radatabass Жыл бұрын
This is what I️ am concerned about with using Tongkat. If it makes me feel a detriment when I️ cycle that just sounds like a roller coaster.
@zigazdovc6175
@zigazdovc6175 Жыл бұрын
That is also what I have noticed, you can not really take it for more then 2-3 days, without experiencing some kind of withdraw. I once took it for 2 weeks straight, the following week I was feeling like I was on a 2 day rave or something, really hard core negative effects. I guess that Tongkat also boosts dopamine production, and in its combination with test increase, you can get some negative effects quick, when you stop. It would probably be a really bad idea to take it like a normal cycle (2-3 months).
@zigazdovc6175
@zigazdovc6175 Жыл бұрын
@@radatabass I also noticed that, even if you take it for just 2-3 days in a row, you notice some negative effects the following day. I can imagine the negative effects if you actually take it as a cycle (2-3 months). Probably would need full blown PCT.
@radatabass
@radatabass Жыл бұрын
@@zigazdovc6175 dang good to know. I️ can’t stand withdrawals so it’s definitely not for me. I️ am wondering how much dosage plays a role. Do you recall how many MG daily you were taking when you experienced these effects?
@duncanmackenzie6445
@duncanmackenzie6445 Жыл бұрын
great vid bud
@cummingreviews
@cummingreviews Жыл бұрын
Great video. Can you recommend a quality brand for Tongkat Ali. I heard the quality brands are the ones that are bitter. It is hard to know what brands to trust and you get what they claim.
@quocd5580
@quocd5580 Жыл бұрын
I take 1 Sigma pill after 4-6pm, 3-4 days a week. Best damn dreams, a small kick in libido, and puts me in chill mode. Reason for taking later in the day, cuz it will make me a bit lazy and i like my mornings to be productive. I do not recommend taking two pills a day, 3-4 days a week; which lead me to gaining 5 lbs. lost all 5 lbs taking less Sigma.
@Phaniac.
@Phaniac. Жыл бұрын
Some people take 4😂
@ShinTurrican
@ShinTurrican Жыл бұрын
I know Google exists, but what the hell are Sigma pills? 🤣
@Hercule_e
@Hercule_e Жыл бұрын
@@ShinTurrican "Testosterone supplements"
@HiiiGHLIFE1
@HiiiGHLIFE1 Жыл бұрын
Got blood work and my test was 280 ng/dl. I'm trying the natural route before the commitment to trt. Curious to see if this works
@SaurabhDeyProview
@SaurabhDeyProview Жыл бұрын
That's low. Whats your age?
@richardlawson6787
@richardlawson6787 Жыл бұрын
My god my daughter has higher levels..if your drinking sugar stop..try to cut out most sugar because it lowers test
@anon1231
@anon1231 Жыл бұрын
I bet you have a video on it, but you have a lot of vids and a lot of supplements. Whats your top picks to feel happier?
@wesdowty79
@wesdowty79 Жыл бұрын
I agree it's really hard on the body.
@SatoshiFibonacci
@SatoshiFibonacci Жыл бұрын
I’ve used Fadogia and Tongkat for a year and I’ve had zero side affects. I finally took a break from them recently and still felt fine. I have my Fadogia and Tongkat on the way right now. I’m excited to get back on it.
@jamesmillward
@jamesmillward Жыл бұрын
What were your results like?
@SatoshiFibonacci
@SatoshiFibonacci Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmillward I experienced a testosterone increase which helped my body and mind overall. It’s not a magic supplement, so it takes time along with a good lifestyle to get the optimal results.
@hansoloburger2322
@hansoloburger2322 Жыл бұрын
Where do you get your fadogia from?
@jamesmillward
@jamesmillward Жыл бұрын
@@SatoshiFibonacci thank you I’m in great shape! Love a boost and don’t wanna start the whole TRT thing. I’m gonna order it!
@SatoshiFibonacci
@SatoshiFibonacci Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmillward You’re welcome 👍🏽
@markarmstrong5096
@markarmstrong5096 Жыл бұрын
im 32yrs old and have had depression for my whole life. I am taking tongkat along with a bunch of other natural things. Im trying to go the plant and herb route rather than the ''chemical'' route(i just hate the way they make me feel). Tongkat doesnt help with depression but i can personally say i feel a very noticeable difference in my energy when i take it...
@DGE123
@DGE123 Жыл бұрын
try a good probiotic (VSL#3) combine with low carb diet, cold exposure and fish oil
@polishguy777
@polishguy777 Жыл бұрын
Try Ashwaganda my friend. Helped me lots
@matthewgoulamanian5968
@matthewgoulamanian5968 Жыл бұрын
what i have learned mark is depression will never go away it can always be minimalized but if your struggling financially or have bad personal problems the depression will always be their i go to the gym i eat better then i did for the first two months i felt great but because im 32 and still live with my parents the “loser feeling” has kicked in and its similar to depression…. you gotta fix other aspects of your life for depression to be at a bare minimal
@maciiol2
@maciiol2 Жыл бұрын
Try cold showers everyday along with wim hof breathing. It will increase dopamine & noradrenaline production, those are the motivation chemicals that your body is starved of when depressed & anhedonic.
@richardlawson6787
@richardlawson6787 Жыл бұрын
Dude get a job and become a man
@groovy8878
@groovy8878 Жыл бұрын
Can you take fadogia during the period off tongat or should you take them together?i was wondering if i can combine them like this..8 weeks on tongat 4 weeks on fadogia and so on.
@ameeenabd
@ameeenabd Жыл бұрын
Please notice that toxicity concerns come from the extraction method used by companies….What I mean that the toxicity and DNA damage is related to the ethanol extraction not water distilled extraction
@Residentevilfan1
@Residentevilfan1 Жыл бұрын
Do we know the best optimal dosage of TA to increase test?
@bi__tw1097
@bi__tw1097 Жыл бұрын
400 mg
@budi22
@budi22 Жыл бұрын
@@bi__tw1097 of what extract ?
@Patrick.Basedman
@Patrick.Basedman Жыл бұрын
Depends on the strength of the extract and many other factors.
@Vizjinst8
@Vizjinst8 Жыл бұрын
Educational video, thank you. I'm downvoting only because of the highly misleading title completely overblowing Tongkat toxicity for which you report that there is zero evidence at anywhere close to ordinary doses. The title is clickbait - it got me to watch but though I've watched other videos you've produced in the past I'm less likely to do so in future if basing my decision solely on what might be implied as subject matter from the title of any videos.
@vincentsundgren
@vincentsundgren Жыл бұрын
Lol
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