MARCoNS: Chronic Nasal Bacterial Infections & Mold Toxicity - Dr. Joseph Musto

[@NutritionwithJudy]

You can order the MARCoNS test here: www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/functional-tests/marcons-testing We provide interpretation of your results and what to do next, including recommended treatments.

[@jiayouchinese]

Dr. Musto is a nice guy and really cares about those dealing with this illness. I called him to speak about my MARCoNS results and he was really helpful.

[@sailuvijl6621]

Do u have it in ur nose

[@user-dn9vd9xg9p]

Went to ENT doc said culture retd as strep pneumonia. Kept having bad symptoms and smell of fungus mold in my nose. I asked doc to test for fungal. He said No and that it was rare. He just flat refused. Ego. I persisted, and I would not leave until he cultured me for fungal. I told him i am paying for it! He was angry but took the culture. I left messages for my ENT for results with no callbacks. So, I visited my GP, and due to EHR, he read the culture results, and it was "allergic fungal muicin." I called my ENT for the results, and he won't return my call. Finally, i got the nurse. She put me on hold to speak to ENT, retd to phone, and said the results are not available yet. So the ENT office lied?. Ego trumps truth. My question is when a culture is submitted initially, does the doctor have to specifically ask for fungal testing ? Since mine retd the first time 2 weeks prior as strep pneumonia and 2 weeks after 1st culture was fungal. So why would it show different 2 weeks before?

[@micaonyx5301]

Wonderful information thanks. I wonder how many doctors have unknowingly caused the death of their patients by sending them to a psychiatrist because their test came back normal so they told them it was all in their heads. I was told I should see a psychiatrist for that very reason. I had the nerves to ask my doctor after he declared me healthy as a horse if I'm so "health" why do I feel like crap. He asked me if I had ever been treated for mental illness. After that he and his staff started talking to me and treating me like I was crazy, even though prior to me asking the question they treated me normal. I'm a landlord and had cleaned one of my rentals that had severe water damage and mold. I knew I had a parasite infection, which none of the countless doctors would believe or treat me for. I've always been fit 5'4, 120lbs and eat mostly organic meat and veggies. Suddenly my heart rate went from 65-70 beats a minute while sitting to as high as 192 so I knew I was in trouble. I saw a different doctor who did a stress test that included walking on a treadmill at a very slow pace and I failed miserably. The second doctor told me I was just getting old and offered ZERO help. He never even asked me how long I had the symptoms or when they started. I was about 55 at the time, roller blading, rock climbing, lifting very heavy weight, playing tennis, riding my bike 6-10 miles 3-4 days a week, and the ladies in their 20s and 30s were trying to keep up with me in the high impact Zumba class I took 2-3 times a week. I wasn't tested for mold toxicity but I figured I had mold and started a mold and parasite cleanse. A couple of weeks later back to my old self showing the youngster how it's done 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MichaelWacher]

What was your mold cleanse process?

[@irenesure1]

Which cleansing products did you use?

[@lorrainerawson2724]

Please advise, what did you do?

[@mizzmention8555]

I am in exactly the same position. My Dr is practically offended by my saying my symptoms are not down to aging and psychological. Can you share the protocol you used?

[@2bbossfree]

Same. Can’t find a doctor to help

[@felicisimomalinao1981]

Dr. Joseph Musto saves us from antibiotics - much thanks.

[@popokatapetl6995]

How do you mean

[@janineclemons746]

I use mct oil with rosemary oil and oil of oregano. It restored my oral health and recalcified my teeth. I add a few drops of natural sauerkraut juice in a saline nasal wash to restore nasal biome while reducing sinus inflammation.

[@mizzmention8555]

Very interesting, thanks for posting. Are you symptom free now? What ratios did you use?

[@janineclemons746]

@@mizzmention8555 I recently started thinking about measuring things I mix up. All I can say is that the food grade essential oils are very powerful. I mix perhaps a cup and a half of oil to most of a standard dropper full of each. Add more oil if that is too strong. I use only a few drops of of live sour kraut juice to about a cup of warm saline.

[@LisaKnobel]

Thank you. This was the most informative video. I tested positive for MARConS years ago. I've done both the cholystyramine and BEG. But, here I am years down the road starting all over again. I now understand that my doctor was doing it all wrong. Wish me luck this time. I'm ready to get healthy.

[@putszntofreedom]

How are you feeling? Would you mind sharing your protocol? Well wishes

[@therealjenniferrr]

I know he said there isn't much in regards to symptoms, however, it makes me wonder about this weird tickle I get in my nose. I only wonder just because I have almost all CIRS symptoms. I don't have the money currently, but when I do I will look into an online practitioner of the Shoemaker protocol. I showed my primary PA all the symptoms I checked off and she said it was def worth investigating (and made clear she couldn't help me, which I told her I already realized and understood completely - primary care isn't meant for this sort of specialization). Really loving this series and how much awareness it has brought to the carnivore community!

[@DanSuolo]

Judy, what an amazing interview. From an amazing woman, Judy!🎉🎉🎉

[@heidikendall5742]

I’m so blessed to have found this interview and your channel!!!

[@heidihayes4792]

I had black mold looked like tar coming out of my sinuses and I did not get better on shoemaker protocol until I had a sinus surgery with antifungals from dr Donald Dennis in Atlanta. Now I’m back to work and have a full life again. :)

[@kathydoell5571]

Wow! How did you know about what to do? I have macrons and know I have sinus problems and chronic complex illness but don’t know what is my next step. We have tried so much but all failed so far.

[@mizzmention8555]

​@kathydoell5571 how are you doing now? Did you find something to help?

[@1truthseeking8]

​@@kathydoell5571still in a mold/dust environment...but if I take therapeutic dose of: Glycine AND NAC I wake up with a CLEAR NOSE *BUT* my sinuses feel so dry I have a headache... don't know when I can try it in a mold/dust free environment

[@rosendosantos415]

@@kathydoell5571have you tired hyperbaric oxygen therapy ?

[@Jennifer-gr7hn]

@@rosendosantos415 great stuff. BUT if you live in it, and dom't get rid of/out of the source, you're filling back up

[@marthakruperstraw782]

Thank you for the informative discussion. As a CIRS patient Dr. Musto's explanations were helpful. I understand MARCoNS better now.

[@73Katerchen]

I found you just today Judy and love you and your work already ❤😊

[@pduper4417]

Great doctor and great interviewer ❤

[@charlesbarkley1340]

Brilliant and very informative, thank you!

[@debraraiche3327]

this is such good information...wish we could get it out in the world! my husband passed away from Wegener's.... but the more I listen we should have continued on this way of testing

[@paulacruice2845]

Thank you very much for this wonderful interview! I learned so much! You always have great content...

[@NutritionwithJudy]

What he shares helps with C-D 19 too

[@lifebeginswithaseed]

She really does. Always great information! Thanks Judy!

[@ginoasci]

Both of you are nothing short of awesome. How helpful !!!!

[@Aliciaskinsecret]

When I first got tested for that in my nasal cavity, my nose hurt like I couldn’t wear my sunglasses or my prescription glasses. It was too much pressure on my nose.. now if that happens I know I’ve been re-exposed but now I seem to get it to go away more quickly. Now that I don’t live or work and I’m all the environment. Great interview.

[@NutritionwithJudy]

Yes, the key in the whole process of CIRS is finding signs and cues from your body if you’ve been in exposure and then protecting yourself.

[@keshajermaine7464]

What an informative interview, I’ve gain so much information on Marcons. I’m actually doing on Marcons test and will be sending the kit back to Microbiology DX. Also, I believe Im dealing with Marcons orally, this interview gave me great unsure and tips. So glad to find your channel, I will be following your videos to improve my health if myself and family.

[@justinesimone5343]

I'm wondering the same! My tongue has a thick coat of white and my sinuses are always stuffy!

[@kwasiacheampong6397]

I have been suffering from chronic sinusitis for years . Would be grateful for your advice. Thank you

[@jgreen8298]

So, he is saying antibiotics make symptoms worse?

[@kotztotz3530]

@@jgreen8298 pretty much. MARCoNS is antibacterial resistant

[@miccysenpai9334]

Ketosis

[@lorrainerawson2724]

I think he did, but would like clarification on that too

[@miccysenpai9334]

@@jgreen8298 Yes because it kills good bacteria that fight the infection

[@BiggieCheese45]

Very nice. Thank you for help paving the way so more people can understand this problem

[@LunaMu-p8u]

Wow, thank you both! I now feel hopeful.. ill find the right doctor now.

[@Rcropan0909]

I had to nebulize with a mixture of Biocidin LSF a couple pumps and a vile of saline several times a day for months to breakdown the biofilm to get to the mold and bacteria before taking the antibiotic that the test told me to take from Microbiology DX. I’m so thankful I got that test.

[@mizzmention8555]

I hear lots of crackling when l move my head sounds like having a head cold. Do you think that's biofilm or infection?

[@jimig399]

​​@@mizzmention8555I have the same. What your hearing is air. It means you have a fistula. There may be another term for it in dental medicine. It's a hole thru your dental cavity into your nasal cavity. Means one of your top, front teeth is cracked or broken down to the root and it's becoming infected. You should get checked. It's a serious infection that can go to your heart or even your brain and progress rapidly causing a systemic infection. Do you have funky smells coming from your mouth? Do you wake up with discharge from your mouth or nasal cavity on your pillow? Do you have a constant sore throat or nose full of snot? Do you have a foul taste in the mouth or burning tongue? If you have any of these symptoms please Go get checked. Best regards, JimiG

[@user-yw9ys3dz7x]

Where are you finding doctors to prescribe antibiotics for this? I cant find anybody

[@Nuverselive]

The test is only for practitioners. What other options are there for those who want to test themselves?

[@user-yw9ys3dz7x]

Good like finding a MARCONs doctor

[@foxywhitetip7387]

I just read that sinus infections reflect liver flukes and / or parasites on liver and other organs

[@bluemoon2920]

a guy treated his sinusitis (stuffy nose and bad breath) with liver tea.

[@MoldDogKnows]

What does one do if they can't handle the cholystyramine?

[@dond668]

32:50 I would add some salt. Saline nasal sprays are more gentle.

[@user-lq3dj3eo8k]

wow, Judy your videos are so empowering

[@annaburns5382]

I am so glad I listened to this because Dr Musto said some women get vaginal marcons. When I started treating myself for marcons, I developed a vaginal infection and I thought there was a connection. I mentioned it to my practioner and she was skeptical. How does one get rid of vaginal marcons? It hurts

[@justinesimone5343]

Please make sure you don't have vaginal Lichen Sclerosus. It's a rare disease and most OBGYNs don't know how to treat it. See Dr Jill Krapf on KZbin. I followed her treatment protocol to a T. Cleared it up for a while. It's back now. Argh!

[@mizzmention8555]

Hi did you find treatment for this

[@Morese56]

Im assuming colloidal silver or h202 as a mouth wash would work the same as alcohol? Any thoughts?

[@callmedeno]

Is there anywhere in europe you recommend for such testing? Thanks

[@mizzmention8555]

Did you find anywhere for this?

[@user-dn9vd9xg9p]

If I am allergic to aspirin and use any mouth washes with the methyl salicylate, i get bad oral thrush and inflammation and bleeding of sinuses.. I am very allergic to aspirins/nsaids. Why don't these mouthwash companies label their products?

[@kristypennington3548]

Is marcons colonisation the same as positive nasal vmrsa diagnosis?

[@mabelnickner9260]

How long should one do the nasal hydrogene peroxide spray for and how many times per day? Thanks in advance.

[@l.c.345]

How can you safely use binders when you take several medications and multiple doses of vitamins, herbs, minerals? I did test positive for marcons. Years ago when I used edta it lowered my copper levels which are already dangerously low.

[@ktex4873]

I've been concerned about the same thing.

[@candacekerr4139]

Wow, something els to worry about, it just seems endless. And so many family physicians don’t have a clue, case in point.. SIBO, There are so many areas in the States that don’t have people who specialize in these things! Frustrating.

[@NutritionwithJudy]

This is part of the shoemaker CIRS protocol. It’s not another thing to worry about but if you’re suffering from CIRS it’s a step you need to do. If you have sibo, you may have CIRS. I just interviewed Dr. Allison Siebecker about this very topic.

[@NutritionwithJudy]

You also don’t have to work locally! So many doctors work virtual nowadays

[@justinesimone5343]

Correct. My Gastroenterologist sent me for the SIBO test. The gases were 290 out of 300! No wonder I was so painfully bloated! But truthfully he didn't know what to do with the info. Second SIBO test he said was all zig zagging and he didn't know what to make of it? But he didn't try to find out. Thank you for responding to this! I AM living in a mold sick building and I'm very tired with a myriad of physical problems. I didn't know it indicated that I probably have CIRS.

[@brendabrenner2891]

I am. Long COVID, long Lyme, celiac, gut dysbuosis.. so. Much going on , how do I know I have marcons?

[@candacekerr4139]

@@NutritionwithJudy . I’ve had consultations with Norm Robillard….the fast track diet. But now I’m learning about CIRS. Out of pocket this all gets expensive.I realize it’s for my health, but it still frustrating.

[@deepalijones9402]

Can Marcons be eradicated from the nose and the mouth by using Povidone (betadiene) which is a 10% iodine solution?

[@lmartin8212]

If macrons keep coming back due to low Msh , how is the msh increased in any protocol?

[@youhaveavoice4349]

Interesting

[@suzettebavier4412]

New Subscriber here 👍

[@tinamartin1828]

Where is this documented in the Shoemaker protocol to do the maintenance dose of the EDTA spray thru VIP treatment? I brought this to my functional medicine doctor who is Shoemaker strict and their response was they rarely see patients have reoccurrence of marcons.

[@iAlwaysSpeakTheTruth]

Yeah that’s absolutely not true. If your MSH is high enough past 22 then it won’t come back otherwise yes it will. Then you need a maintenance dose of sprays plus VIP to bring that MSH up

[@sdickerson8283]

How about H2O2 rinse for the mouth? I use some in my oral care.

[@Morese56]

I’ve been using h202 in my sinus rinse:) so far so good.

[@michaelthelen1]

Were you able to get a clear Marcons test? To what concentration did you dilute your hydrogen peroxide?

[@sankarawasright1192]

@@michaelthelen11/2 teaspoon h2o2 8 ounces distilled water

[@helgaotto7801]

Y'all need to learn how to adjust audio levels so that one person isn't screaming your ear off while the other is barely audible

[@lw2131]

It may be your speakers, i have not noticed that at all. Though Judy does tend to speak a little more loudly...

[@dawnkennedy9576]

Please answer …I constantly feel like something that is in my left nostril …doctor can see nothing but a bump on outside of my nose. My nose does not run , just dry white crust all the time and my nostril closes when I lay down.

[@justinesimone5343]

My sinuses are a mess. Either dry and closed up or run straight water!

[@j-bird9765]

My MSH is

[@kristih911]

u can order directly

[@blossomooo]

How are you doing on the protocol? I’m getting ready to start. I’ve been so unwell for so long 😢. I do have MARCoNS. Just wanting for the doctor to order my CIRS panel.

[@OZMAZZ12]

Where can I get tested and treated in Australia?

[@minouagah8280]

The food grade hydrogen food grade could be used orally or only nasal ?

[@PangeansNYC]

How are children and teens treated? Can they be cured from MARcONS

[@jetwaveboard6729]

Should you keep spraying a maintenance dose of edta/silver during vip to keep Marcons away?

[@iAlwaysSpeakTheTruth]

Yes

[@spat727]

I have been struggling with chronic sinusitis. My integrative doctor started me on the beg spray, and I didn’t have a sinus infection for almost 5 months! But I caught a virus and have had sinus pain and inflammation again for 6 weeks. I went to my regular doctor and antibiotics haven’t worked. I’m going to see my integrative doctor February 1st and maybe I will have another prescription for beg spray( after the nasal swab for mold and staph) again. Something might work again because I had that 5 months reprieve.

[@LancePetersen-f1u]

Same here. Not sure what to do as nothing seems to work.

[@Rcropan0909]

Nothing works if you have a biofilm layer. You’ll need to break that down and get the Microbiology DX test and it will tell you on the test which antibiotics will work and which ones won’t.

[@miccysenpai9334]

Go into ketosis

[@BeyondtheTreadmill]

I’ve had a lot of success with nasal ozone.

[@DennisShaw-rs9tk]

20 mule borax solution kills mold.not boric acid). It also seals wood from ongoing wood root.

[@minouagah8280]

Hello would you let me know if this doctor accept patients remotely?

[@Rcropan0909]

I don’t know about this dr but if you’re close to Bellevue, WA, Dr. Darvish at the Holistique Medical Center is extremely knowledgeable about this test and how to treat marcons. You can get your dr (if they believe you) to get the antibiotic you need once you breakdown the biofilm layer.

[@debraraiche3327]

what is MSH?

[@matth1005]

Melanocyte-stimulating hormone

[@rosalindr4975]

I did beg , then switched to colloidal silver . It helped. Blessed with integrative medicine doctor who is helping me follow Ritchie Shoemaker protocol. Took a while for m s h.

[@dalemassicotte6198]

things to consider knowing how resilient these fungus bugs are: Xlear with xylitol to break biofilms edta to break biofilms (beg spray) coloidal silver spray attack fungus breathing ozone thru olive oil daily with lungs already full with air using a syringe to force pure ozone into sinuses for 30 seconds then exhale currently on Amphotericin B nasal spray and itraconozole as i still even after 15 years have mold showing in my urine and my home and work environment is mold free

[@miccysenpai9334]

Keto diet and fasting

[@Jennifer-gr7hn]

@@miccysenpai9334 oversimplification - please, stop. Some of us have mthfr, HLA gene, etc. It's also via the air, chemtrails

[@j-bird9765]

Is it recommended to use intermittently as ongoing treatment even after clearing it if they have CIRS and low MSH?

[@iAlwaysSpeakTheTruth]

Yes otherwise Marcons comes back if MSH is too low.

[@Bgirl7020]

MSH: TEST FOR MYCOTOXINS OR ANTI CYTOPLASM ANTIBODIES. AFFECTS THE MSH HORMONE OR MOST BODY HORMONES. MSH: MELANOCYTE STIMULATING HORMONE (NORMAL IS 35-81 pg/mL.) A multisystem autoimmune condition associated with anti-neutrophil cytoplasm antibodies.

[@Bgirl7020]

HOW EFFECTIVE IS COCONUT OIL UP THE NOSE? JUST WONDERING?

[@susan4789]

This is my story! I'm penicillin resistant and 2 others. Been diagnosed with mycotoxin poisoning. Lyme disease, celiac. Mast cell activation I can't find anyone who will help me. I called the ENT who has been seeing me for 3 years. his office e has never heard of Marcons. I've had the urine mycotoxin test. My Dr knows about mold but he is in the category of doctors who won't help me get better.

[@nomadicexplorers]

It’s Marcons

[@brendabrenner2891]

I have same as you, BUT add long COVID.. these tests are expensive.. any progress on yr poart.. see 11 Drs.. none know what im talking about

[@mizzmention8555]

​@@brendabrenner2891are you doing better?

[@rosendosantos415]

Did y’all find any help ? I hope so ….

[@blue-gx5tm]

Will the alcohol containing mouthwash also eradicate the Marcons hiding internally in root canals and cavitations?

[@dalemassicotte6198]

not if they are in your jawbone. i was treated with ozone in the bone. it was amazing

[@micaonyx5301]

​@@dalemassicotte6198where did you get the ozone treatment please

[@Morese56]

Just so you know that I’m trying to find listerine at 26% alcohol and as far as I can tell you cannot find it! Anymore. Any thoughts? Peace

[@miccysenpai9334]

Time to start doing keto

[@jr.6199]

Dilute vodka down to whatever % you need.

[@darkfieldcarnivore3928]

Please dont be ignorant and laugh at COLLOIDAL Silver. It is only an issue long term if the particle size is too big. If it's clear it's fine. Make it at home to get the best benefits.

[@NutritionwithJudy]

I’ve heard great things about colloidal silver. I just always ask questions that I assume the community would want to know.

[@darkfieldcarnivore3928]

@@NutritionwithJudy Perhaps a graphic that helps people understand and lose the fear/propaganda could be useful. It is dirt cheap to produce has many uses.

[@Livingtabitha]

Even if it turned me blue but healed me I wouldn’t care.

[@Morese56]

@@Livingtabitha I agree but it won’t turn you blue.

[@hockeymomavalon2499]

I use silver for all kinds of things

[@JasminThelemaque-lf8mo]

Hi everyone I’m a single mom of 5 on Medicaid n none of the doctors are helping me .. Can someone pls give me a good recommendation how to heal my nasal passages … I got an air duct cleaning done I got my house fogged against mold then had another inspector come who said they can’t visibly see mold .. I don’t have the funds to install that fancy stuff into my vents .. when I will I will install whatever there is out there … pls advise me on how to cure my nasal passages at home with home remedies … I appreciate you for that and pls tell me if that treatment helped you and how long you had to take it for ..

[@moonjudas]

Keep researching. I put a merv 12 filter over my box fan in my room and it helps. Cutting back on dairy and sugar. Neddy pot helps a lot. Don't give up!

[@Livingtabitha]

I have the ACS 200 as the oral spray. My Dr. Has me putting it in a nebulizer and breathing through a mask with my nose. What are your thoughts on this? Mine is to treat recurring staph infections and nasal polyps. I have AERD also known as Samters Triad. I also have CIRS, Sjogrens, Hashimoto’s, and Fybromyalgia. I have had 2 sinus surgeries to remove polyps.

[@Livingtabitha]

Also I just want to say, I don’t have insurance, can’t afford it. I’m currently trying to do the protocol by myself because some of us literally don’t have any other options. This is what happens when you live in a world that puts money before humanity. It’s terrible. I wish I had other options. I wish I could work more closely with a dr. I recently moved into a home only a few years old and put medical grade air purifiers in my home, doing silver nebulizer plus taking chlorella, phosphatidylchlorine, GI detox binder, and liposomal glutathione plus sauna and sunshine I also do a carnivore diet. Is it enough? Idk. But it’s the best I can do.

[@darkfieldcarnivore3928]

​@Tabitha Weber sorry for your situation. Do you make your own CS? Have you tried ozonated water netty pot? Or CLO2 netty pot? Pulsed emf is another option for deep infection.

[@darkfieldcarnivore3928]

Also, perhaps you a dental/gum infection that is feeding the nasal infection

[@Livingtabitha]

@@darkfieldcarnivore3928 no I’m using the ACS 200 Silver for my nebulizer. Idk what the CLO2 is or the ozonated water. I do use a Nettie pot with a salt mixture that also contains cedar, balsam, green myrtle, and rosemary by Baraka. I have really great teeth and I’m fortunate but I did have a root canal done and then redone a couple times because it was done wrong the first time. I’ve only had 2 cavities in my whole life and I’m 40. But just to make sure I think I should treat my mouth as if I have something. What do you recommend? I’m not a huge fan of mouth wash but I’m will to try anything. Thank you for looking out. I appreciate you.

[@darkfieldcarnivore3928]

@@Livingtabitha shelf life and therefore effectiveness of silver products makes me suspect. Home made is guaranteed to still be ionic. If you have the means, organise a conical beam scan of your mouth. This will show any infections in the bone.

[@Bee-of5xz]

What is MarCon?

[@justinesimone5343]

I don't remember either. I used to know. I'll google it!

[@ethereumrise7860]

Multiple antibiotic resistant coagulase negative Staphylococcus.

[@lindyb4509]

What could it mean if your msh is below 8, but vip is in normal range?

[@Rcropan0909]

Mine is 16. I was told I have bio toxicity and CIRS.

[@markoilic8375]

Ionic silver is not same as coloidal, coloidal contains nanoparticles > 50%

[@minouagah8280]

This is me I can't find any doctor in canada to help me ad I am getting worse and disfunctioning every day .

[@steves6853]

Scary stuff

[@MotivLifter]

How do i find a mold illness doctor in southern New Jersey?

[@justinesimone5343]

Go to an Immunologist/Allergist. May have to call a few to see if they treat mold illness.

[@iAlwaysSpeakTheTruth]

@@justinesimone5343those drs do not treat CIRS

[@minouagah8280]

I really need help

[@miccysenpai9334]

Ketosis

[@huna1950]

Ketosis….don’t be stupid These are people in this patient population that could school you on Ketosis and their still sick

[@glbaker6102]

What is the normal MSH level.

[@Rcropan0909]

Between 35-81 pg/ml

[@Rcropan0909]

Between 35-81 pg/ml

[@TexasSapphires]

If you don’t put the swab up your nose to where you are in excruciating pain and literally sneeze like crazy with both a sample from both nostrils you can get a false MARCoNS result, so says my Shoemaker certified doc. So they administer it at the office. Boy does it hurt, and boy will you sneeze.

[@gailhunt1538]

I did not test positive for biotoxin illness but my holistic practitioner found the MARCoNS in my tonsils. We believe that caused my relapse.

[@316bonnie1]

Dr. Robert Beck Protocol

[@erikjohnson4275]

If this is "provable" then why was Dr Shoemaker unable to convince other doctors about this? Was he not aggressive enough? Should his Shoemaker doctors fight harder to defend him?

[@dalemassicotte6198]

the FDA is not interested and insurance companies are resisting the truth coming out. This is all about $$$

[@w8what575]

Cuz most doctors don’t want to find cures cuz it hurts their paycheck…most doctors are doctors because of the money not because they care about their patients and want to help the world…they do belong to the cult of Apollo who hates people

[@miccysenpai9334]

I don't think that's the issue 😂

[@shawnshawn7477]

Because no one actually becomes well. They are in this treatment program for years and then drift off after not getting well. These people temporarily feel better, but eventually regress.

[@erikjohnson4275]

@@shawnshawn7477 They eventually find that they had become mold avoiders. And it was avoidance that was working. Not any treatment.

[@kimberlyryan8618]

Do you understand that there a 4 different metabolic dominences? None of these metabolic types should ever eat sugar. Thyroid dominence needs a little of each 4 food groups, #1fruit, #2 vegetables, #3 meats, eggs and dairy, and #4 grains, seeds and nuts. Adrenal dominence needs less meat and only occasional fish and chicken, no dairy and rarely fruits and lots of vegetables. Gonadal dominence needs no meat but eggs and low fat dairy is ok, lots of vegetables and small amounts of fruit and group #4. The gonadal dominant body is the only one who could and should be vegetarian! Pituitary dominance is the only one which can be purely canavore! The doctor you are interviewing has pituitary dominance. You can tell by the shape of his body. But if you tell others who do not have a pituitary dominance to only eat meat, they will get sick and may never recover! To recover from CIRS, if you assess which metabolic dominance they are in, just tell them to eat little or nothing from group 1 and 4. This will produce the same effect as eating carnivore. But only putitary dominence can eat only meat!

[@huna1950]

Great comment The food zealots don’t understand CIRS

[@matios6013]

Please what is gonodal dominant body? Thanks🙏

[@naomiAcronym]

Hi, @kimberlyryan8618. Thank you for your comment. Where can I look up this info to figure out what type I am? I already tried to find it on my own and can't find a website that helps me identify.

[@matios6013]

@@kimberlyryan8618 thanks for the info🙏

[@juanlobato4993]

How much time in carnivore until test for mold cirs?? I

[@NutritionwithJudy]

I’d say 6 months.

[@Sophrosynica]

Right now I have been on Carnivore for over a year. It’s going well however since late december of 2022 i’ve had chronic sinus infection. Even now. It hasn’t gone away. I’ve had two surgeries and each time, it happens like this where I get super chronic infections. Not sure what to do

[@Morese56]

I also had two sinus surgeries and in the end my doc told there was nothing more he could do as it most likely environmental. It’s spring in the NW and once again I am dying. There are billions and billions of trees here! The only tree I’m not allergic to are palms trees😐 peace

[@msblanqui1]

​@@Morese56 DUPIXENT!

[@sailuvijl6621]

​@Sophrosynica if it is coz of mycotoxins they say vip spray

[@bsun3219]

What I listen more doctors re mold health issues,I am becoming more and more confused....On the end ,I think all this long protocols are useless.It should be some simplier solution .

[@popokatapetl6995]

I am looking for it aswel

[@dougjstl1]

Ok

[@minouagah8280]

I am very sick if he can accept me 😊

[@douggrant3431]

Thats not true. U can get better with marcons. Doc u heard dr shoemaker in your interview with him cmon

[@KKKKAAAARRRRYYYYNN]

21:50 sprays: beg spray batroban edta

[@Morese56]

What is mSH?

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Melanocyte stimulating hormone.