The @Roland PlugOut Juno-60 in System 8- How to set it up?

[@loktar00]

Got my system-8 yesterday super helpful that you also recently got one and are doing these videos, thank you!

[@NickHowesAstro]

Have had a System-1 for a while, and recently bought a System-8. This is a nice overview and well presented, in a "hey, I'm your mate next door" kind of way... great work... subscribing to your channel

[@Nu-trix]

Thanks, that’s what I’m going for. I have teach synthesis for more than 15 years and feels it’s the best way to do it.

[@NickHowesAstro]

@@Nu-trix I worked on the voicing and design of them for 20 years almost at Yamaha, you do a good job

[@synthartist69]

What a nightmare just to get the Juno 60 plugout. I do not have a DAW. I just want to send the file or whatever it is to my system 8.

[@ohheyitskevinc]

I’m actually surprised Roland decided to add a new synth with System 8 support. Just wish that a) there was a discount on Cloud for people like you and me who already own the S-8 and the TR-8S, and b) finding plug outs were easier and “pushing” the plug out to the hardware was easier. Like you, I’ve had my System 8 for a few months - great little machine. Grab some wood panels for the sides :) RSP-8W is the model for the wooden sides - Sweetwater have em :)

[@Nu-trix]

I decided to go with the aluminum sides.

[@6alonl]

Love the Juno 60. Very "old" "brown" sound similar to the Polysix. The 106 in my opinion is overrated.

[@redeemer5628]

Thanks for these videos, they're very helpful! I have a few questions: 1. Aside from the 3 preloaded plugout synths inside the S8, you need to rent/buy the additional ones correct? 2. If the memory in your System-8 is cleared and you do not own any of the plugout/plugins, are you screwed and need to now rent/buy the JP8, J106, and JX3P plugins to load them? 3. If you rent Roland Cloud for just 1 month, load your selection into your S8 and then cancel your membership, do you now keep those plugout synths that are loaded in indefinitely? Thanks again, and it's crazy how badly convoluted and confusing Roland's marketing and strategies are. Cheers!

[@Nu-trix]

For 1-2 and 3 my answer is yes. But for 2, I think when you do a factory reset you would get the original 3 plugouts back.

[@csongorfarkas3574]

Hi, so did anyone went through with the factory reset who could confirm that the 3 plugouts are back? Or should I store these plugouts to SD card before I replace them with some others? Also is there a recommended size for the SD? Thanks a lot

[@csongorfarkas3574]

Great video, thx. Could you please share with us where and how to store the existing plug out synths you get with the synth before you replace them with some new ones? Thx

[@Nu-trix]

The internal plugouts can be restore when you do a factory reset of the device.

[@csongorfarkas3574]

Thanks a lot!

[@johnghadimi]

GREAT video. I was super curious bout the PlugOut process. So do you actually need to load this in a DAW, or is there some way to just send out a binary to the system 8? The DAW process feels pretty daunting IMO. But man, you get 4 synths in one hardware.. pretty damn incredible!!

[@Nu-trix]

The plugout is a plugin first. I don’t know of any option to send it to the hardware any other way.

[@johnghadimi]

@@Nu-trix Understood. I was just hoping to avoid roland cloud. :)

[@tomjw1306]

Thanks. This is useful. Please can I ask, I currently have the Jupiter 8, Juno 106 and JX-8P preloaded into my System 8. It was like this when I bought it. If I overwrite one of my existing plug outs with another from the Roland Cloud, will I lose it, or can I restore it without having to buy a new licence?

[@Nu-trix]

The plugouts included with the system-8 are built in into the factory rest of the system-8. It will always be able to retrieve it.

[@tomjw1306]

@@Nu-trix Thank you for your quick response. Subscribed and looking forward to more of your videos 😀

[@MikeBalk]

v cool thank you

[@user-or3ce4gt2r]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@ElgusOfficial]

Does the synth plugged out (juno 60 in this example) stay inside of the s-8 after it's disconnected from the daw? Or would I need the j-60 plug-in running everytime I want to use the plug out?

[@Nu-trix]

When transferred, the plugout is running inside the system-8 and do not require any computer at that point. From the start the plugout idea was to bring the same sounds from the studio to the stage.

[@ElgusOfficial]

@@Nu-trix Thank you!! Been an s-8 owner for over 2 years and never wrapped my head around this😅

[@frankdussinger7684]

Can i use the Juno 60 with the jupiter x too?

[@lavoltabbona]

Good job man

[@midwestisbest1]

Can you tell me why the second envelope is blacked out sometimes, and sometimes not? It's driving me crazy.

[@Nu-trix]

It's supposed to represent the actual knobs available on the synth that the Plugout is simulating. The System-8 has more options (and front panel knobs) than most of the Plugout synth.

[@midwestisbest1]

@@Nu-trix Oh, I know that, I mean specifically within the Juno 60 Plugout. Some presets have both envelopes available, and some some have the amp envelope blacked out.

[@Nu-trix]

It’s a switch that for affecting the ENV2 to the VCA. To change it , go in the menu and navigate to PATCH EDIT, press enter. Navigate to PATCH VCA and you can select the source of modulation for the VCA ( ENV1, ENV2 or GATE)

[@midwestisbest1]

@@Nu-trix Got it, thanks!

[@Bigjuggs64]

1. Is it easy and quick to send patches back and forth between system 8 and the vsts ? 2. Does the vst and the system 8 sounds the same ?

[@Nu-trix]

Yes and yes.

[@Bigjuggs64]

@@Nu-trix Thank you for your answer. 1 more question, if you buy the system 8 would the juno 106, jupiter 8, system 8 vst be able to download to your computer ? or would I have to buy the vsts for my computer ?

[@Nu-trix]

@@Bigjuggs64 The plugin is also the plugout loader(?!?) to send to your System8. The system 8 comes by default with the Jupiter8, Juno-106 and JX-3p. Any other plugout, you will have to buy it or rent it. If you want the VST plugins of the Jupiter-8 you will have to rent or buy it.

[@Bigjuggs64]

@@Nu-trix So if I want to use it with a vst version on the computer, I'll have to buy the vsts on computer or use roland cloud ?

[@Nu-trix]

Yes. But to clarify, the Roland cloud manager is the place where you can rent or buy. It’s the Roland license manager in a way.

[@JAAPIOJO]

You can use this as a plug out for your verselab? Or do you want to buy a Roland jd-xi for that. Or just buy any mini midi or better the Roland Xm?

[@Nu-trix]

The plugouts can run as a VST in a DAW or inside the System-8. Some can also run in the System-1 and System 1m. The ACB technology is watch drives the boutique series (except the Se-02) as well as the TR-8 and TR-8s. But if you use it in a DAW, then any MIDI keyboard can control the VST version.

[@Plaw01]

Installed Juno 60 via Roland Cloud but it doesnt show up in my DAW?? I'm presuming this is because it doesn't support VST3. Is there any kind of workaround so I can ultimately import the Juno 60 into my System 8? Using Windows machine by the way.

[@Nu-trix]

I hear of people using the SD CARD for importing the Plugout. But I never tried it.

[@adamscrivener3823]

Hey thanks for the video, something I'm still confused about is the cloud subscription. If I own a system 8 and want to install a plugout do I need to purchase a monthly or lifetime subscription? Also say I purchase a monthly one and then click the plugout button to load it on, will my synth then need to be connect by USB to an internet connection for the future? This is so confusing, I hope the answer is simple and you understand. The video was great but I don't get it :(

[@synthartist69]

I agree.. it is a nightmare

[@florianrachor7796]

I honestly think this is the main reason that this synthi isn't more popular overall. Everything is so confusing and their marketing just sucks. I'm watching the third video now and I still only partly get it :D

[@Nu-trix]

You are both option. You can buy a lifetime key for each plugout that you want or take one of the monthly memberships.

[@florianrachor7796]

@@Nu-trix Sorry to pester you, but this is so unclear on their site. Does everything in the cloud works as plug-out? The Anthology collection is marketed as "sampled", I had the impression that the System 8 is a real synth not a rompler. Or can it do both? And for the Roland Cloud, it seems to get the interesting stuff you need the Ultimate subscription, that is kind off steep if you aren't a professional. But I guess, O.K this is marketed towards professionals anyway.

[@Nu-trix]

@@florianrachor7796 You are right the Anthology is a Rompler series and the Legendary is the ACB ADB series (like the System-8)

[@superdroneuk410]

If you put a Juno 60 next to another Juno 60 and analyse the sounds they won't be the same either.

[@Cabong69]

Thanks for these great videos on the System 8! I have the system 8, do I have to buy the actual software plug-out from Roland even though they're included in the System 8? Thanks!

[@Nu-trix]

I think you have to by it separately.

[@AlekseiDroganov]

Want to skk if you connected Juno 60 with your Systrm 8 and then disconnect usb cable, so will it work as hardware synth. Sorry for my English 🙂

[@Nu-trix]

When the plugout is sent inside the System-8, you don’t need the computer anymore. It becomes a dedicated hardware synth.

[@bdodger548]

Does the sound come out of the System-8 or the plug-in when they are connected?

[@Nu-trix]

The 2 options exist. You can run the plugout in the synth or you can run the software plugin fro the computer.

[@orfeozgz]

Thanks a lot. Nice video. (Roland: take note of how to explain what the manual is supposed to explain). By the way, do you know any way to load Ju06 Boutique patches? That would be fantastic.

[@Nu-trix]

I’ll look into it.

[@orfeozgz]

​ @Nu-Trix The Synth Guy I asked to Roland Support, and they said me that it's not possible :-(

[@MSM5500]

"any way to load Ju06 Boutique patches?" Basically you can open a JU_06PATCHXX.PRM patch file from JU-06 in a text editor then manually transfer the values from there onto either SYSTEM-8 or JUNO-106 plug-in. Just bear in mind that all the parameters of JU-06 are positive figures most of which may have 0-255 values whereas some parameters of plug-in/plug-out can be from -127 to 127 where 0=-127 and 127=255 . Also JUNO-106 plug-in/plug-out has got more envelope/modulation parameters in the patch structure than the Boutique has.

[@buildusarocket3410]

Hey mate! Is there a way to import sounds from the cloud directly to the hardware via usb cable connected to the machine? or do you have to use an external usb flash drive

[@Nu-trix]

Only via USB and from the plugin.

[@buildusarocket3410]

@@Nu-trix there is a way to send patches directly from the plug in to the unit? how do you do that?

[@Nu-trix]

@@buildusarocket3410 that is at 9:45 in the video.

[@buildusarocket3410]

@@Nu-trix Thank you kind sire! I also followed you twitter for some further help but I dont know how to message you as I cant see the option. You have been more helpful than roland for me. Let me know if there are other ways to contact you.

[@buildusarocket3410]

@@Nu-trix my main question is that, is the ultimate membership worth it? I quite like the system 8 module so I'd rather just buy that. I've seen you talk to many roland people so I am assuming you have more clarity about the future of the pro and the ultimate memberhship. Right now I got pro free for a year but it exludes the vsts.

[@chris-schreiner]

Very detailed info about this great system. But maybe you should not talk as long about the same detail (for example the condition parameter).

[@Plaw01]

Was thinking of replacing the Jp8 on my system 8 with Juno 60. Anyone else done this or is it too similar to the JUNO 106?

[@Nu-trix]

I feel the Juno-60 is closer to the Juno-106 then the JUpiter8.

[@photasticimages363]

What does it is?

[@toktok9975]

does system 1 automatically map all the roland cloud synths too? Or are some limited only to system 8? I wanted to get system 1 controller since I thought it would automap jupiter 8's controls to it.

[@Nu-trix]

I don't think the System 1 will accept the Jupiter 8 plugout. System 1 is 4 voice polyphonic and the Jupiter 8 Plugout need a 8 voice polyphonic hardware synth. The System -1 will run only the mono and 4 voices plugout (for what I understand)

[@calzone.mp3]

very confusing, too many side-topics going on here, not direct at all. I got to the Roland Cloud bit and then yr on a different planet.

[@Nu-trix]

Sorry for this. I could do another video. What part would you need more information?

[@micahjohnson5746]

I'm really confused. I own a System 8 Hardware...however if I want to load any patches or new "Plug-Outs", I need the $129 System 8 Plugin to load the patches/plugouts? What a joke. The whole marketing and information on how this system works is really terrible.

[@Nu-trix]

Each of the new plugout it a paid expansion. They can be added when you have a lifetime key or a membership to the Roland Cloud. It adds a new synthesis to the System-8 not just patches.

[@Nu-trix]

And remember when you buy a Plugout, you also buy a plugin for your DAW.

[@Micah421]

@@Nu-trix ok. Thanks. So I’m order for me to load any patches or plug outs. Not only do I need to buy the $129 System 8 plugin, I have to buy the $150 plug-out as well? Seems ubsurb to buy the System 8 plugin in order for you to access loading options. I don’t have any need for the plugin in my DAW. It’s just very frustrating IMO. Love your channel BTW

[@Nu-trix]

The plugout is also the plugin. It’s one download. When you buy the plugout, you get a plugin that runs in your DAW and that can be transfered in your System-8