NVIDIA Just Screwed 'GeForce NOW' Gamers

[@TechOverwrite]

Hey everyone, what are your thoughts on this change? I should also point out that Boosteroid and AirGPU (among others) are meant to be good GFN alternatives, although I havent personally tested them out... yet 🙂

[@quandrixtwincaster5738]

Really depends where you live and how close you are to their data centres. Where I live in Canada, Boosteroid just doesn't perform well at all. Amazon Luna is just poor quality overall, with a model I don't enjoy. And Xcloud via Game Pass Ultimate has no way to pay for priority access to cloud gaming, so there are many times where you'll be waiting a long time for sessions, and on top of that the service isn't where it needs to be as it's still in beta. GFN really had it in the bag. Incredibly disappointing for them to do this.

[@motherflerkentannhauser8152]

I'm honestly not that surprised cuz I'm getting close to an actual 4080 performance with the ultimate tier. So spending $200/yr and getting the performance close to a $2500 4080 PC, that's not counting the monitor and the energy bill, is just a little too good to be true.

[@Asadc1995]

Boosteroid for third person games like world of warcraft gta v red dead redemption 2 does just fine! However way behind inferior compared to geforce now with fast paced games like cs2 fortnite cod warzone with things like input delay lag server stability

[@svbpaya8905]

I probably not gonna play more than 100hours a month but the fact that there is a limit for subscription service is such bullshit since it’s not even cheap either

[@TechOverwrite]

True, it's certainly not cheap - especially on the Ultimate tier. I just don't like my watch hours being tracked tbh.

[@astenxxx8930]

I think service is amazing is future gaming netflix !!!

[@Wuwaimpactslp]

They should at least give us the 100 hours for more than a month cause what if you don't play for a while it would probably be paid for nothing

[@kristianuhde5241]

“You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy.” -Ida Auken

[@TechOverwrite]

Ugh, that sums it up :( A definite downside to the current subscription trend.

[@mr.sinister2029]

putting a limit on a monthly subscription is just fucking stupid. even worse is if you manage to even hit the 100 hour limit say 2 weeks in they will automatically drop you to free tier even if you still have days left in the sub you paid for. they should just drop memberships all together at this point

[@TechOverwrite]

I agree, it's frustrating 😔 While I don't game as much anymore, I would have easily hit 100 hours a few years ago. It would have been stressful to keep track of my play hours.

[@Asadc1995]

Hopefully they might maybe in the future slightly increase the max hour limit per month! Who knows? By some 10-15 hours. Its main purpose is to minimize server overload with too many people on at the same time

[@TechOverwrite]

Yes fingers crossed :) Clearly the service is quite in-demand at the moment, so I can kinda see why NVIDIA have done this - but it's still frustrating. Even 120 hours would be better IMO.

[@TheHipisterDeer]

But the thing is they already do that by default by limiting the amount of people who can even buy the monthly or 6 month membership to begin with.

[@Chimkinuggit]

I thought that people that play for free also get the 100 hours cap but i just recently found out that we only get 3 hours every 90 days....

[@TechOverwrite]

Lol! On free, it sometimes feels like a 3 hour queue for each and every 1 hour of gaming time.

[@AhnascenceTV-ot2jd]

This change definitely feels super bad. My assumption is that Geforce NOW has continued to grow in popularity over the last couple of years and they either can't or don't want to (probably the ladder) add on more server power to support the growing userbase, so this is their solution. A dumb solution at that, I guess I'll just stay subbed to ultimate so I can not get these changes till 2026

[@TechOverwrite]

Yes I agree all round, and it probably is just because they grew too much. I'm actually half hoping that they have another 50% off sale before the end of the year - I wouldn't mind having Ultimate throughout 2025 to be honest.

[@TheHipisterDeer]

There is literally no reason for them to have a monthly cap when cheaper streaming services like boosteroid exist for cheaper, it's not like they are hurting for money. So basically I'll continue to use it until the end of 2025, and then after that hopefully I'll have enough money to actually buy a PC with a 4080 or better graphics card before 2025 is over.

[@TechOverwrite]

I agree, and if it truly is only 6% or whatever that use more than 100hours, I doubt they're really saving much money by introducing this cap 🤔

[@STR82DVD]

Agreed kid. I literally downgraded my Ultimate Founders account and bought a AMD Ryzen 7. Freaking caps. That's a huge no go for me.

[@TechOverwrite]

Thanks for the comment, caps suck. They stress me out lol. Going local is the best solution IMO.

[@Andre_Chon]

Well, now geforsenow gamers will have one more task - calculating how many hours they have left for the month.

[@TechOverwrite]

Yep 😔 I used to game 3 hours a night. I would find this new cap stressful tbh.

[@sevsev4078]

Genuine question: how do people manage to play beyond 100h a month? Considering you are fulltime employed or studying, minding daily chores or duties and a life besides gaming, how could anyone manage to get more than 100h of playtime a month besides professionals like streamers, youtubers, etc.?

[@TechOverwrite]

A fair question. Before I had children, I worked full time (40h a week) but still played 2-3 hours of games a night. On weekends this might then rise to 3-4 hours. That worked out to around 100h a week. And I would have found a 100h cap progressively more stressful as the month went on, to be honest.

[@Markelicgaming]

that math ain't mathing

[@TechOverwrite]

22 working days * 3 = 66 hours, and then 8-9 weekend days * 4 = 36. 66 + 36 = 102 hours. So it is possible with 'just' 3-4 hours a day... and that's not forgetting that sometimes people might play a LOT more than 4 hours on a weekend. It is still a fair amount though, I appreciate that.

[@1995oskardukowski]

I work 36 hours in week. But I dont wacht Movies or sport. Gaming is beside gym me biggest hobby. 3 hours in day are rookie numbers

[@samogx86]

@@1995oskardukowski Yeah, I work from home and sometimes I stop working to play a little. I can easily play 6 hours a day and on weekends I can play 10 or more.

[@XxFri3ndlyxX]

My pc just fried because my my power bar decided to fail and destroyed my pc. It will take me a year to build a new one. I decided to sub to geforce now and will keep it until january 2026. This should give me enough time to buy all new parts. I just need to make sure i never miss a payment to keep the unlimited hours till 2026.

[@TechOverwrite]

Ugh really sorry to hear about your PC, that sucks. Glad GFN can tide you over though 🙂

[@shadowbreaker6027]

I feel like they do this so everyone subs now until the end of 2025 and then they'll say actually we'll revert it or if you stay even more you can keep the unlimited time...

[@TechOverwrite]

Yes that wouldn't surprise me. I also think that they'll eventually lower the 100 hours on the Performance tier, probably to 75 hours or something 😔

[@mrmack3176]

Actually would be smart but never seen a company do that that will hurt them long terms

[@Progger11]

Well, fuck. I was going to subscribe to GFN to start playing more taxing games on my Steam Deck, but now I've seen this. Thanks for letting me know.

[@TechOverwrite]

Yeah it sucks 😞 I guess if you subscribe now you get unlimited through 2025, at least, but it's still not ideal.

[@AnthonyZ.]

I don’t even use GeForce Now. I mainly use Amazon Luna and I’m sticking to it.

[@TechOverwrite]

Oh cool, how is Luna working out for you?

[@AnthonyZ.]

@ amazing, Been busy playing Sonic Frontiers, Tetris Effect and some of my GOG games

[@TechOverwrite]

Oh nice :) Love Sonic. I keep meaning to get and play Tetris Effect too.

[@mrmack3176]

Just increase the monthly price are add a new unlimited tier if not then i dont see this service making profit and people that arent affected don't want to be on a time clock

[@TechOverwrite]

Agreed, I would be happy enough to pay slightly more for unlimited.

[@mrJOcean]

they absolutely ruined trial mode recently with the "ulitmate trial"

[@TechOverwrite]

The service does seem to be heading down a frustrating path.

[@yasinmohammed-w3f]

bro i play 6 hrs daily since im a student on geofrce now. seems like i cant anymore😭

[@TechOverwrite]

Ugh sorry to hear that. Yep, you'll definitely hit the cap - by the middle of the month unfortunately. It's a frustrating change.

[@Stormlywing]

I can't even play their games anymore thanks to ads I will just keep getting kicked out even tho the Rig i was waiting was 0 making me quit and lose my best line which i has to pay more to play an old title which they willing to kick me because my College allow their service but not the ads so if is loads an ad is breaks

[@TechOverwrite]

That sucks. I noticed that a lot with the free tier - I would wait in a long queue and then get kicked as I got to

[@meetdtruth5600]

Also don't forget ps5 or xbox controller input lag is unbearable when playing geforce now players

[@TechOverwrite]

Fair point, I haven't tested with console controllers but I've heard other people say this. It's a pity 😔

[@Jrv175]

Really?? Why?

[@ForzaHellRazors]

Not that big of a deal to be honest. If i run out of time, i can just hop on xbox or still use my gaming laptop with lower settings. As well as gives me a reason to boot up the games that aren't on GFN.

[@TechOverwrite]

That's fair, I forget that some people have games consoles or gaming laptops 😂 I'm purely PC based, and while I do have a laptop, it's not suitable for gaming. You're right though that many people do have consoles or alternatives to just relying on cloud gaming.

[@Peter_Scholtz]

Ok, so if i am paing monthly already will it impact me as i will continue to?

[@TechOverwrite]

Good question, the FAQ is a little vague, saying: "existing GeForce NOW paid members, as of December 31, 2024, will continue to enjoy unlimited playtime until their first billing cycle on or after January 1, 2026, as long as your premium membership remains uninterrupted and in good standing. 6-month members will reset on the same day each month as their billing date, (e.g. February 4 billing date will reset on March 4, April 4 and so on). " Maybe try posting in the GFN subreddit or the forums, they might know more. I always thought that *any* paying customer would carry on with unlimited in 2025, but that 6-month point confuses me.

[@gameranters]

2:41 this could be a sales tactic to see if people will rush to buy the premium plans and allow them to come out later in 2025 (assuming it leads to sales) that they will waive it and look like the heroes.

[@TechOverwrite]

That's true, that wouldn't surprise me tbh :(

[@johannilsson29]

Don’t have a gaming pc anymore so I use the performance option for my Mac mini and it has worked great. While I won’t exceed 100 hours a month anymore I still don’t agree with a greedy business model like this it’s just ridiculous.

[@TechOverwrite]

Yep I agree, it's a frustrating change from NVIDIA.

[@snowatom]

There must be days that you aren’t playing at all. And this will increase your average hours per day. I have no issues with this. I have an issue with games not being on the service, and no apps, for ex. Apple TV and other devices.

[@TechOverwrite]

A fair comment :) While I imagine there's plenty of gamers who do game daily (even if it's 'only' 1-2 hours on some days), as we get older there's definitely more and more no-gaming days I agree.

[@drecoracing]

If you play over 100 hours of gaming every month, You have a problem......no joke

[@TechOverwrite]

That's 3-4 hours a day, which isn't massive IMO. I used to play that before having kids and still had a balanced life - it certainly wasn't a problem. Each to their own though - it does sound like a lot when you first hear it.

[@Kung_Fu_Junkie]

I am a construction superintendent have a wife and two children go to all my children’s events. Take care of the things around the house and go to the gym five times a week and I can still get 100 hours of game time easy.

[@Asadc1995]

Did geforce now helped you those few months save some electricity bill? Thats also one of the few pros of cloud gaming

[@TechOverwrite]

Yes that's a fair point, I used it a fair bit over the summer and it was also great to have a cool room after gaming (usually my study is really warm when gaming). 🙂

[@Asadc1995]

@@TechOverwrite What games did you use it for? Free 2 play ones like fortnite or single player games

[@TechOverwrite]

I tested out Rocket League and it worked fairly well, then some single player ones like Cyberpunk. So nothing super-competitive, but RL was still online and I had no real issues (at Ultimate tier) :)

[@ruskerdax5547]

They've been making this platform worse since its inception. To be fair to Nvidia, not all of it was entirely their fault, but capitulating to the demand that they get approval from companies to stream the games already made it entirely not worth it to me. Since then, increased latency, progressively worse service, increased, prices, and now this, it's almost laughable.

[@TechOverwrite]

Good comment, and I agree. They do seem to be nerfing it a lot. I was surprised when I just checked and loads of the 'packages' are unavailable now (day passes and the free tier, both "sold out"...) 😔

[@spacevaporeonamvs3171]

they need competition

[@TechOverwrite]

Agreed. While it's good that options like Boosteroid exist, I kinda feel like GFN needs a big player competitor - like Xbox Cloud scaling up and coming out of beta.

[@ruskerdax5547]

They probably won't have any for awhile, because unless I'm mistaken cloud gaming is still pretty far from profitable.

[@Keilink]

Paying a monthly sub to be dripfed a service... where the f*ck is this industry heading to exactly :'D

[@TechOverwrite]

Yep :( I agree, it sucks.

[@Keilink]

@@TechOverwrite From what a subscribed friend told me, you can relaunch sessions infinitly, which is strange if they wanted a way to disconnect AFK users~

[@TechOverwrite]

Good point yes it's a strange approach. :(

[@Capybara-lo3bg]

Now I can’t play Fortnite with my friends

[@TechOverwrite]

Sorry to hear it. The GFN service does seem to be less and less stable recently.

[@jiri187]

I'm pretty sure most of the GeForce Now gamers don't spend 100 hours a month playing. That is mostly the reason why they don't buy a physical gaming rig. Nvidia has checked that before coming up with this for sure.

[@TechOverwrite]

Yeah that's a fair point of view, you're probably right there. 🙂

[@kevinsanders7370]

We have 1 year to save up for our own pcs

[@TechOverwrite]

Yep that's fair, that's basically how I see it. It's less stress in the long run than worrying about gaming caps.

[@thealchemist3575]

Good byte GFN, gona build a new pc and that's about it.

[@TechOverwrite]

I don't blame you - the service seems to be a bit less stable the past month or so too.

[@thealchemist3575]

@@TechOverwrite it's not even about the stability, I can go around that, the fact that they are asking for subscription monthly basis and the limiting that to 100 hours and having the houspa to ask for 3 dollars for extra 15 hours is like playin r-tard level marketing...At this point if I calculate correctly and based on my gaming habit , I would need to technically invest 10.99euros yea that's the price for us, for a month and then pay anoter 10 euros for the over head ....That's 20E to play on another PC for like 1 month. Extrapolate that and you have 240 euros a year. Time to build a pc and forget about this nuttjobs :D.

[@TechOverwrite]

Yep I agree entirely. Building your own PC is the best idea right now IMO.

[@Ghostphotographer31]

Just more and more companies want money sad

[@TechOverwrite]

Yep that sums it up 😞

[@AnosVoldigoad-qg4zh]

Low the price for this monthly cap.

[@TechOverwrite]

Agreed, that would have made sense too - a bit like how Netflix and Disney+ introduced a cheaper ad-based plan a few years back.

[@daveygravy1234]

well im just cancel that simple. also if everyone cancel their sub they will change their mind

[@TechOverwrite]

Yes true, that's the best approach IMO.

[@ohjunyi7196]

First I only have 20h of playtime per month I am on the premium lite which is not the same as your guys one and I used it up in like 5days I am upgrading to the premium just the normal premium which have 50h of playtime and we don’t have the Rtx 3060 or even the rtx 4080 you guys are lucky to even get 100h of playtime for 11$ if I was correct even the premium is 12.99sgd alone

[@ohjunyi7196]

And if your play time is up you get a very long queue and you only get a gtx 1060

[@TechOverwrite]

@@ohjunyi7196 yikes that's not great, I did read of the Premium Lite offers in some countries (or via some partners), that sucks. 20 hours isn't much at all, I agree. Sounds like you get a much worse deal all round 😞

[@Progger11]

"Poplar."

[@FunnyLumpkin]

Boosteroid is gonna be so popular 😂

[@TechOverwrite]

Hah yeah, I think it'll benefit them for sure 🙂

[@markuskaeding]

This is such bullshit. Ist just 6% of all gamers on GFN spending more time on it. So for 94 out of 100 people it will be a better experience. Stop complaint before understanding the reasons. Performance and electricity and chips are not infinite resources.

[@TechOverwrite]

If only 6% of gamers use over 100 hours, why did they need to make the change?

[@markuskaeding]

@ serious question? 6% of paying users need probably half of the performance of the service because they are just gaming all day long. I did that too when I was younger but this Plattform is not build for it and obviously just not profitable. So if 94 people still use it and pay and you have the performance for another 94 by limiting the 6 guys who are just playing video games in their lives (no judgement) you do exactly what they do. Again performance and resources are not limitless and if you can double the amount of users for the same money you double the profit. The stupid part is that people show the middlfinger by building themselves a new pc with new NVIDIA graphic cards. :D which makes NVIDIA even more money. 😅 The price is ridiculously low for a comparable performance with your own PC. So I genuinely do not get the complaining about it. I can play 2-3 years for the price of a ps5 on much better performance.

[@TechOverwrite]

Thanks for the detailed comment/reply 🙂 I actually meant, I doubt whether it is just 6% of users. I think it is more. If it was just 6%, surely this change is not going to save NVIDIA much money? But yes, I do agree with the gist of your comment that cloud gaming isn't really for more hardcore gamers. It is meant for casual gaming. In some ways it is good that NVIDIA/GFN are now honest about that (with this new cap), but I dislike that it applies even to the expensive Ultimate tier. Maybe 150 hours on Ultimate would have been better?

[@meetdtruth5600]

ALSO wtf blaming my internet connection while I have the fastest smoothest connection in the world? admit it your servers suck shit nvidia ! learn from xbox cloud how to not dissapoint your returning customers

[@TechOverwrite]

The service levels do seem to be worse recently, even for paying customers, which sucks :(

[@jessejames7074]

We need a crypto cloud gaming protocol

[@TechOverwrite]

How would that work? 🙂 (Serious question)

[@jessejames7074]

@TechOverwrite well I spoke to soon because there is already multiple protocols building on this idea I'm about to start building on a couple of them better using cell phones for this. You can even use a cell phone with a cracked screen so I'm about to start buying a bunch of smartphones and have them hooked up to this protocol because smartphones are practically small computers that can handle Graphics memory and data transmission

[@BytesBeatsLEDs]

i use the free one lol

[@TechOverwrite]

Lol that's fair. Other than the queue times, it's good that GFN offers free to be fair. It's nice to have free cloud gaming.