Plumbers ARE NOT HVAC techs. HVAC techs are not plumbers.

[@tadyoshi3610]

If a plumber and a HVAC contractor had sex. We could start a race of super workers that know how to do both jobs.

[@NYCHvac]

I’ve always said if a plumber and an electrician had a baby that’s what a HVAC comes out 😂😫 but you’d be right with the super workers.

[@timc9893]

Nah. The little turd would probably turn out to be a sprinkler fitter.

[@KekeeBlack]

What if they didn’t even procreate and just taught each other about their jobs the whole time? 😂

[@1gameboyc7775]

It happened, he's called Steve Lavimoniere 😂

[@mdnite2941]

Called a electrician! 😂😂😂

[@nathanbates9561]

As a plumber, I can confirm this. I do not want to be held liable for doing an HVAC job.

[@jeffreycampagnola1159]

are u sure your an actual plumber?

[@BriannaBalenciaga981]

​​@@jeffreycampagnola1159why are you asking that when they are a certified plumber?🤨 plumbers and hvac professionals are two different professions not the same thing I have four uncle's who work as a hvac technician and two more that work in the plumbing industry how the heck are you you gonna ask someone if they are a professional plumber

[@thomasmackey4031]

The difference is the HVAC pro can bite his nails on the way home from work the plumber can’t.

[@beefjuicer4808]

I knew a plumber who always complained how he was in pain yet smoked two packs in an eight hour shift and bit his nails constantly. Pretty sure the dude was balding from how he took care of him self.........never wore gloves

[@manolodominguez6393]

Not all plumbing jobs deal with sewage. Wow

[@timt4715]

@@beefjuicer4808 sewage is a problem but the chemicals in PVC solvents are probably more damaging to your long term health. Definitely should be wearing gloves for any of it.

[@carlosrivas3004]

We can tell a good tin knocker from a bad one by how many fingers they have

[@bradleyward285]

The hell you can . Im an hvac installer and there's some nasty shit

[@redneck4200000]

“This shitty nasty leaking pipe over here that’s a plumbers job lmao 🤣

[@grendal113]

Well yeah. If it's poo it isn't hvacr

[@rusher101]

That's a boiler line.

[@juantorres8536]

Thats not a “shit pipe” its a rusted “clean water” pipe

[@AquaTech225]

Yeah it can be a plumbers job. But if a hvac guy is willing to fix it since he’s already there. A lot more he can charge. Vs just passing it on

[@jamiepitts3389]

I'm neither and could fix that pipe.

[@ObservationofLimits]

If you have to flush your boiler once a week you have bigger problems.

[@timc9893]

If you don't blow down your boiler (at least) weekly, you will end up with problems.

[@hatchetmanWC]

Yes!

[@timc9893]

@Yamaszlof Mcdurkin Haha...umm, yeah. I'm a class one, unlimited operator. You can get away with that on a residential boiler for a while, but tomorrow, I'm descaling a four-year-old boiler for that very reason.

[@timc9893]

@Yamaszlof Mcdurkin That all depends whether it's a hydronic, or a steam boiler.

[@dtouw]

Yeah thats a steam boiler

[@Blakethegoat]

Man I heard you talking like the other NYC plumber I watch and I had to subscribe. 😂

[@Learncountry12345]

Lmao same. They’re probably buddies or something 😂

[@sk1dr0w]

What's up broskis

[@antonscraft]

​@@Learncountry12345or brothers

[@ElmerOmero14]

They got that Nu Yo’k accent

[@pitsnipee5]

If I remember correctly in the Navy we blew down the sight glasses daily on the mid watch. Fellow Snipes, if I'm wrong please correct me.

[@NYCHvac]

Y’all have steam boilers on the ship !?! If so, what is the fuel it uses ? And thank you for your service 💪🏼💪🏼

[@pitsnipee5]

Magic hot rocks on my first ship and DFM (diesel fuel marine) on my second.

[@iwasnothere2]

​@@pitsnipee5 lol

[@wuhan827]

Merchant Sailor here, we do top and bottom side blow down daily.

[@hatchetmanWC]

I'm a plumber that specializes in hvac, ac and boiler systems ...

[@gdi1093]

Yeah and I’m an hvac and boiler system that specializes in plumbers. You ain’t so special… especially with your narrow urethra.

[@sativa2050]

Same.

[@pcakes1878]

no refrigeration?

[@mr.t5334]

i got laid off from a company because i as a hvac guy not trained in plumbing, had a difficult time with a plumbing call. customer wasnt happy and complained. so much for the office having my back.

[@davidcardinal3654]

You can sue for wrongful termination. You were expected to do work out of scope and were provided no training. This works in your favour because they will have to show some sort of training record.

[@Kyle17206]

​@@davidcardinal3654a lot of states are at will states

[@dustinengle2570]

An HVAC professional can definitely repair that leaking pipe lol. You call a plumber to do all your pipe fitting or something 😂

[@NYCHvac]

We can definitely do it but yea we have a install team that does this!

[@dustinengle2570]

@@NYCHvac I guess I understand that. I originally thought you sub out any pipe fitting lol. The way my shop does it is if I find needed repairs while doing service then that’s my job. Incentivizes you to find needed repairs so you get more work. We have an install crew but I’m the pipe fitter at my shop as well as a lead service tech. If something needs cut and threaded it’s me that does it lmao.

[@timt4715]

@@dustinengle2570 kinda funny because when I walk into some shit hole rental property with 1-1/2” galvanized leaking like that on a boiler system I tell them they will need an HVAC tech LOL 😂

[@aredditor4272]

If you do heating and refrigeration, you run and braze copper piping for refrigeration units, iron gas pipe for gas appliances, PVC for condensate lines, water piping for ice machines and water cooled condensers.

[@bearleemadeit4718]

@@aredditor4272this comment is Canadian Redseal approved

[@MaxPower1000.]

Preach brother Preach!!!! Get to the call and it's a HVAC problem, we ask alot of questions because we charge for a service call, to find out it's a HVAC problem so we have to charge them. Lost 30 minutes to get to you to find out what it is and drive another 30 minutes to get back to my area.

[@Chad-em2fg]

That’s because a plumber shouldn’t be touching any of it that’s the responsibility of a steam fitter / pipe fitter! Not HVAC either

[@bobpaulino4714]

I travelled nine states for a large contractor that was founded in 1867. Carried a union card for a specific trade but handled whatever was needed. Did primarily industrial and institutional work. Our company had patented, proprietary systems. Handled power and control wiring, chiller, refrigeration, gas, oil, and pneumatic piping, sheet metal, balancing, commissioning, service and project management. Have been 'retired' over 10 years and still get calls from old clients. Great money and visits with old friends --

[@BrawlerTheSmokyDutchMan]

If you have a closed system with treated/demi water then you don't have to flush at all. Because it doesn't rust

[@liam4249]

And that is the reason why there are school-based training programs in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. They last 3.5 years, 2 days a week in school and the rest in the company. You learn everything you need to install boilers, air conditioners or ventilation systems, but what you have in the USA is ridiculous.

[@NYCHvac]

That’s wassup. Our schools here only last less then 2 years and is mostly class room work.

[@nightwings8984]

Plumbers tell you a certain time frame so it lasts just long enough so you dont feel scammed, but they get a call back to fix it soon so they get more money and use the same parts they bought the last time, but charge you a new set.

[@jozyphilyaw9339]

As a plumber I tell em as often as you can, if it's a restaurant always have someone designated to it and have a checklist for weekly stuff I said to do lol

[@joer7327]

I'm a plumber and I agree 100%. Just sending work your way. Never heard flush it once a week for a boiler now I know and if asked I'll pass it on.

[@dylan.7941]

I mean in all fairness HVAC Mechanics are more plumbers them plumbers are HVAC Mechanics 🤣

[@Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure]

We are also part electrician as well 👀

[@DannyPlays96]

I grew up fixing steam with my dad, im one of the few 26 year olds who even know how to service steam or how it works. Respect to see that content. I woulda stuck my phone in the draft hood to make sure it wasnt a leaker. Weil Mclains are leakers

[@jman0870]

Debatable. The northeast (Maryland/Pennsylvania to Maine) is FULL of steam. You think only decrepit old men can work on it?

[@SnakZ]

Steamfitters, is what you need 😏

[@NYCHvac]

I always thought steam fitters are doing foot wide pipes and welding them lol

[@SnakZ]

@@NYCHvac we like small pipes also :D

[@frankdux4515]

"Its coming out but its not moving" How smart you are...impressive.

[@whochecksthis]

And you should NEVER call a plumber to design and install a boiler system unless they are hydronic licensed... So many of my jobs come from customers that discovered this issue...

[@ulogy]

...I need you and NYCPlumb to collab

[@suetaylor1127]

This guy could talk about the most boring things and make them sound interesting! Love the accent, NYC accents are the best in the world, best Australian or a Russia speaking English. Subbed just because the accent.

[@jimplimkin4026]

Unless you're a plumber who's an HVAC technician also. 😮

[@NYCHvac]

Rare breed 💪🏼

[@ultimatemoyer719]

My union hall is full of them. We are a plumbling/pipefitting and HVAC combined.

[@jackrourk6484]

Unless they are trained and certified to do both. I'm certified on a lot of things but, in doing so there are some things I have to double check on occasionally just to double check myself and be sure.

[@NYCHvac]

Rare breed right there. 💪🏼💯👍🏼

[@chrismckee5113]

When you’re a plumber, you only need to remember three things; 1) Shit doesn’t run uphill 2) Don’t eat with your fingers 3) Payday is on Friday

[@blazel462]

That reminds me of a Burnham boiler I had installed in a house from the 20s…converted oil to gas. All that rust comes from the steel pipes in the house, eventually, the pipes nearest the floor will corrode open. Had that one happen once.

[@jawnlaughlin5]

I worked at Mead Johnson doing site maintenance and that reminds of going around collecting samples for water softner testing throughout at all the condensate pumps and the make up towers. I miss all those rusty site glasses and 🔥 💧

[@tailgunner2]

For my parents' steam furnace, I use a hose and transfer pump to shoot the rusty water outside. I pop the blowout valve open to let air in to facilitate the bulk of the water, then feed clean water into the furnace to stir up the sediment rust off the bottom for a thorough flush. As for the transfer pump itself, I pour a little cooking oil into the impeller before, and then after pumping to help prevent rust build up. Not bad for an electrician! Still, i never knew those rods guarding the sight glass were used to prod the two valves. I wondered why they were removable. I simply opened the clean-outs to let the water pressure do it's thing.

[@NYCHvac]

Yea the rods are there to protect the glass but we use them to clear it out. And holy smokes bro you do a lot ! One bucket a week should be good enough 💪🏼

[@philthyphil1410]

In Australia plumbers do HVAC as a specialty

[@artursmors2178]

Same in big part Europe, we are all called plumbers, if you put up contidioner unit, you are plumber, if there is pipe, then you are plumber and you job requaires plumber

[@LatinTurkNYC]

We usually do both in nyc. If a master plumber owns the company, you are installing and serving boilers, AC systems, gas, stacks, vents the whole nine.

[@danielorr7627]

Fix the damn pipe when you are still there ! Don't be afraid to get that money 🤑

[@NYCHvac]

We have plumbers working with us we let them eat too 💪🏼 but if we didn’t you betcha!!!

[@jimmyzgarage5430]

​@@NYCHvac that's probably cuz you're in a City that's communist-controlled by unions. That's stupid to send two different trucks and two different men out to do a job. Waste of time and the customers money

[@jakethesnake842]

As a boiler operator, the gauge glass can be removed when the valves are closed to clean the glass.The bottom gauge cock should normally have a drain to flush the valve.If needed one can open up the valve for additional flow if need. It's generally not a good practice to take the valve off as you removed your control if something goes south.

[@StewdisToday]

Are you a stationary engineer ? They call us power engineers in Canada . Love the content I been doing shit outside my trade this year you earned a subscribe my friend 🎉

[@NYCHvac]

I’m a service tech going house to house. I’m not ready to be stationary maybe when I get older. I appreciate the support 💪🏼

[@auspicioustoot]

I did plumbing since I was a teen and then swapped to hvac a few years ago. Best of both worlds.

[@william474]

HVAC guy here, and I 100 percent agree with you. Great job by the way my man.

[@danisahumanable]

I do both broskie

[@NYCHvac]

You one of the few good ones 💪🏼👍🏼

[@adorablegreen1]

Snoop dogg when hes feelin like a handyman😂

[@jasonhayes3944]

Well said sir I’m a plumber I stick to plumbing much respect for both trades we all have our own place in the field know your roll an stick tah what ya know 🤘🏽

[@jroc01]

My mom has one of those furnace,shits old as her but it's still going strong.

[@Wasssssuppppppp6869]

I was a jet engine mechanic, pneudralics, and electrical and environmental specialist. Plus a pharmacy license. Bam!!!

[@isaiahvilla6908]

“Mom I want to watch HydroNYC” “We have HydroNYC at home.”

[@staceysherman247]

Very good advice from Hvac service technician. Keep up the good work I service boners for 35 years. Thank you for the video. Makes me proud there a people out there that still care to do their job right and you’re one of them.

[@NYCHvac]

Thank you 🙏🏼 I learned from guys that been doing this longer than I’ve been alive 💪🏼

[@spazzypotato8325]

As a homeowner with access to the internet and a drive to do it right. I do every single trade.

[@NYCHvac]

Cuddos to you my friend. I too because of KZbin try anddo many things

[@Eggugat]

We clean ours once a month - once a year. But it’s just the pressure control tanks, not water heaters/furnace.

[@americanadventureoutdoors4213]

In Oregon plumbers and hvac workers are not allowed to touch boilers unless they have a boiler license . And if that sight glass is that plugged my guess is the mud legs in the bottom of that sectional boiler are chalked full . A proper blow down that was piped in correctly would help fix that problem .

[@christiantroy3034]

You need to drain the dirt pocket valve every week during heating season and every 2 weeks during non heating seasons. I had the automatic waster feed removed from my steam boiler, this mad me have to perform the above referenced maintenance

[@stevekeenan9673]

I moved from CA to midwest last year. I am in a area where not many boilers and never had one before.....this just taught me, cuz I've been here a year and didn't know about draining it....doh

[@michaelg.294]

I'm a plumber in Colorado and here it's the plumber who installs AND services the boilers (at least in the areas I've worked). HVAC is usually installing and servicing AC, furnaces, fancoils, ducting and venting.

[@NYCHvac]

Yea a lot of HVAC companies forget about the “H” when it comes to boilers. Here in NYC hvac companies know how to cut thread reem black pipe. Hvac companies leave it to plumbing and heating companies. It’s kinda backwards but I get it.

[@Knight805]

I was working on the controls and wiring of a mini split the other day, the homeowner was unloading a trailer of landscaping rock, etc, and he said, “Man, I wish I was an electrician, too!” I said, I’m not an electrician, I’m HVAC. Eats digging rock or turd tuggling. I do appreciate you plumbers out there!

[@zachman973]

My man’s talking to me like a 90s crime movie or sumn

[@stephenminardi9103]

No we are Not hvac professionals I can't tell you how true this is, great video

[@LottimusMaximus]

I hold a master mechanical license. I try to just do hydronic heating. It’s an in between, thing, so I’ve attempted to specialize, but I still get more forced air work than what I would like

[@Dunkdamonk]

I push for hydronic heating and mini split for cooling.

[@LottimusMaximus]

@@Dunkdamonk those are the most comfortable and efficient homes I’ve ever been in. I’ve done some radiant heat paired with Evap coolers too, but it’s like 9-20% humidity where I’m at. Lol. And it’s nowhere near as nice as a mini split. Some of these old school hippies keep their windows open majority of the spring and summer, so we just go Evap for them :)

[@HeathenHammer80]

My dad worked for a plumbing and heating outfit and wore both those hats.

[@GarrettBShaw]

I worked a job where we had a big boiler, part of our daily routine was every morning first thing we did when we got there was walk over and flush the boiler line for a few seconds. Kept it clean

[@robertallen1953]

Both can install and service steam boilers depending on their training and background. If you add water you are adding more minerals. If he is a boiler tech he could fix leak he most be a maintenance tech

[@billharpster7968]

Drain Once a week is a lot around here. Maybe harder mineral water needs it that often.

[@rookiecookie722]

That boiler is going to be making lots of noise with lots of airbubbles haha!

[@nintendbro3275]

Haha this is perfectly timed, I'm a plumber switching over into hvac 😂

[@HobOnderhoudenBeheer]

I am proud to be a plumber and a hvac engineer for 34 years 😃

[@Azrael69605]

Guy kinda sounds like Silvio Dante I love it🤣

[@a.m.m.4592]

Every plumber in NY tells me the previous plumber did it wrong. It a huge problem in NY especially when it comes to boilers.

[@Freegrem]

I thought you meant to do this whole job every week but just opening that valve once a week is easy enough for me to do once a week if i had one

[@ezrhasauce7811]

I know and do both. Thats job security.

[@nwelshans]

Excellent points on the HVAC versus plumber... Then you mix automation/controls guys in who everyone assumes knows everything about everything

[@NYCHvac]

Yea they’re like engineers wannabes sometimes 😂

[@chrisl6263]

As an hvac tech... I have a boiler license.... I've installed boilers and serviced boilers.

[@RC-Homesteaders]

Low water cut off switch will trip sometimes if you drain it that fast

[@AB-bw5yc]

There is one field where hvac and plumbing intersect. Marine air conditioning uses water to carry the thermal load. It involves quite a bit of plumbing.

[@marcelinomunoz4471]

I love this everybody has their job and done correctly we become a team that gets anything done

[@Matt-r7f]

Guess I broke the 4th wall here, cuz I am certified in both. Electrical as well.

[@tonelimon7570]

When he started talkin im like damn when did TraxNYC start doing plumbing jobs😂😂😂😂💀💀damn New Yorkers

[@AkumaUzamaki]

I can only imagine NYC plumbing system & having to deal with it. The layout of that city is wild.

[@wudchuck]

And here comes a carpenter that can do both your jobs!

[@andrewburnett8743]

If you're handy enough to be a plumber or a hvac tech you can certainly be both

[@notpoliticallycorrect4774]

Oh lord it's hard to be humble, when you are perfect in every way.

[@Jessedog11]

when you add a Rust inhibitor like squick you dont flush out the inhibitor. and larger boilers use a treatment company as well. and usually when a boiler water is this Rusty I would be suspicious of a return line that is leaking and the boiler is feeding ofter thus causing the boiler to Mud up. Fresh water rots steam boilers out if water is added too often.

[@fatmanchew909]

That looks like a automobile manufacturer's lifetime transmission fluid flush suggestion.

[@kennybrandow4994]

In my region I'm top tier boiler tech as a plumber. If I install a system I'm going to master servicing it and it's counterpart.

[@Charlies_Factory]

If you’re a master at any trade you end up pretty dang good at the other ones too. Thats just the nature of the service industry. But the licenses are there to ensure that you only do what you’re supposed to with a little grey area in between. Like a plumber wiring in an electric water heater or a plumber setting up the ac condensate line off the air conditioner.

[@mediocretroll2842]

Got an old bank we have to make sure the boiler is flushed and the pilot is lit every time we service

[@Johnnypitbull420]

In Canada, the installation, commissioning and service of boilers, fan coils, and related hydronic systems is the responsibility of plumbers.

[@NYCHvac]

hopefully they're as skilled in the rest as plumbing

[@RandysMixtable]

It's like 50/50 steam boiler owners. Some are dedicated and make it a part of their routine. The other ones forget about it till it breaks lol or its completely clogged

[@gametimedaily7740]

That’s why my dad and I are HVAC and my uncle and cousin are plumbers! Lol

[@alanburns9466]

I used to work in a large boiler room for a veneer factory. This had to be done every other shift or our pressure guage would mess up causing the system to think we had 50-60psi when we really had 200-250

[@NYCHvac]

And people in the comments saying once a week is too much lmao. I always say at least once a week. The more the better even on a residential home. But daaaamn that’s a lot of pressure I wish I got to work on high pressure steam.

[@jeonghutamilim2259]

In finland, HVAC, plumber and heating professions are rolled into one.

[@Jeus-h3o]

Snoop Dog made this video 😂❤❤

[@terrencefulton2541]

We don't have boilers down in NC not residential anyway. Heatpumps gas heat and a few hydronic air handlers and geothermal systems.. very few oil furnaces left. The new techs don't really even get trained on them anymore

[@waynejr.6763]

Then there are the rare guys… That are both master plumbing and HVAC, and great at what they do on both ends.

[@mattdecoine6948]

your voice would be perfect for a radio host 🤟

[@jerrygoodmen6577]

Tucson Arizona 💯 Thanks

[@chambitas8814]

Thought I was listening to traxnyc plumbing 🤣

[@yukonmapper4189]

I love this it shows whats bad about people in the trades if you only service or install a unit you shouldnt be doing it. You should be able to do both. Dontt need to be hvac or plumber could be either or.

[@rondickinson1907]

Boilers make steam from water. The minerals in the water stay in the drum and accumulate. Industrial boulers have automatic blowdown valves but sometimes they nees to be manually blown down. If it is untreated water then put it in your yard. Some in your garden.

[@N.Cognito]

We blew down our low pressure boilers every day at my last job. Every morning they got blown down. Never had clogged sights.

[@NYCHvac]

Nice. I try to inform the KZbin community but there’s a lot of people that don’t understand this principle

[@christopherwojtan750]

When you boil water the entrained minerals separate out. In industrial boilers we use specific water that is kept in check through chemistry. In your building application like this just drain the sediment once a week or work a schedule based on water usage amd water quality. My little home water heater I flushed 4 times a year got about an inch each time. Very hard water in the midwest.

[@NYCHvac]

Dang that’s crazy ! In NYC flushing a water heater every 5 years won’t even get you 2 seconds of dirt coming out.

[@thomasbroking7943]

i worked for many companies that advertised plumbing and heating.

[@personwithhat1]

As a plumber I know enough to know I don't know enough about boilers to do your job for you, I don't step on your toes, you don't step on mine

[@rsvp1234]

You don't want to add too much water because every time you bring fresh water in it brings in minerals and changes the pH