Nyfter Ergolight 4k - A Lighter Version of a Much Loved Shape.

[@3ildcard]

120€ is way too ambitious for upcoming company that offers the same experience Mr. China does for half the price. They did that with their first pad too. Correct me if im wrong but it was some generic Aliexpress cheaply made pad that costed 35-45€? Not entirely sure what makes this mouse cost double of what the GHero Pro costs, thats just way too greedy in the current market.

[@lostboy2637]

Fresh said that it feels built identical to Incott GHERO that costs 50 EUR lol

[@3ildcard]

@@lostboy2637 Thats crazy. I get that its slightly lighter but 7 grams for 60€ is a little too much.

[@alexanderjakoby6804]

As i am one of the Founders of Nyfter i can give you short feedback about pricing. (There will also be a tweetlonger on twitter this week) We understand that there are a lot of chinese brands on the market that sell great mouse for cheap price but that doesnt mean that we can also offer a same price. Here are some points which influence the price: - production cost, chinese brands are usually also a factory and have low production costs. As we purchase from the same factory they charge us a way higher price as they also want to make some profit. - employes: In Germany, we have much higher wages for our employees than the Chinese have for theirs. In germany the average wages are 3-4 times higher than in china - Local cost: For our company we have a lot of costs like shipping, our own warehouse, our office, packaging etc. The cost position for its own are not that big but if you sum it up its a higher amount - Marketing: In every product you calculate marketing costs - Taxes: In germany we have 19% Value added tax on the products which will be directly deducted from the state, this costs doesnt exist for chinese companies. Additional we pay 30% taxes on our profit - Discount codes: In our company we always have discount codes active or several discount offers during christmas or Black Friday for example. Every customer - administration Cost: There plenty of cost we need to pay for example, transaction fee, website, currency converion costs, beeing allowed to sell eletronical products etc. This some of the main reasons, why we are forced to charge a higher price than chinese brands, which many people dont note as they are comming from the consumer site and doesnt have the input and knowloadge from the business site. I hope this gives you a better understanding :) Br Alex

[@lostboy2637]

Would love to see a comparison with GHERO. Fresh said that even their build quality feel identical like they are made in the same factory

[@jerrorr]

Yeah I am not sure where my ghero currently is lol 😂 but yeah very similar in many ways

[@MaskedOG]

I dislike companys riping of others that spend the money on development. ABsolute no go.