Nystatin / Anxiety Relief / Follow Up 2 / I made it!

Thanks everyone for you comments and questions! I'm sure it's helped a lot of people trying to understand Nystatin and Anxiety.
Anxiety is brutal though you can get better!
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• What Happened to me? Did I die?! (spoiler: Nope! I'm crushing it!)
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[@cesartinoco9890]

I watched your videos, I just started taking Nystatin. My anxiety has also been outta control. Just happen out of no where. Married with 2 kids I was afraid there was no hope. Thank you for these videos, it’s definitely lifted my spirit up. Happy for you also!

[@ZeroStateReflex]

Hi Cesar, ugh, that’s how it feels too. One day you’re like, “wtf? What happened!?” So glad to hear they were helpful. I got better and you can too. Just keep going! It took time to get that way and takes time to unwind it. I wish you well. If you have any questions please stop back by. You’ll make it.

[@youngjedi8028]

@@ZeroStateReflex hello can you do another video how you are doing?! I have anxiety and oral thrush hard time to swallowing and chest pain. I wake up at nights for no reason. I truly wanna know how you are doing because sometimes I losing my hope. All it started back on covid lockdown! I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you. You videos are amazing and it’s really giving me a hope.

[@ambrosia_333]

@@youngjedi8028 I have yeast in my throat I also have uncomfortable swallowing and anxiety through the roof after being on nystatin. Is your stomach messed up?

[@youngjedi8028]

@@ambrosia_333 tbh with you there lot of things going on with me lately. So basically all started in lockdown. Anxiety second episode was H Pylori then I put antibiotics. it was diagnosed just last year. So Pylori is gone without ulcer. Now antibiotics messed up my stomach microbiomes. Last month primary physician put me on nystatin suspension orally for 4 times a day. Competed my courses. It change nothing with my oral thrush. Now started for Fluconazole 200mg for 14 days. I have some improvements but its not gone yet but my brain fog and anxiety decreasing day by day. But I strictly follow healthy diet and I cut completely all carbs. I only eat veggies and fat and protein along with supplements. Regularly do outdoor cardio and workout. So far so good

[@youngjedi8028]

@@ambrosia_333 one more thing I keep doing I clean my mouth frequently. Otherwise yeast wont go away so easy and then apply b13 vitamin powder on your tongue. Its enzyme and reduce inflammation.

[@titusjonas5237]

Hi, I'd like to thank you for your old videos. They helped me to get started with Nystatin, at least. My doctor prescribed me tablets and a suspension, if you know what I mean, but I hesitated to take it. Got severe anxiety problems, too. - One question: Did you have to take a kind of purgative to clean the guts as well? Now, it's good to see you're back! Get well soon.

[@ZeroStateReflex]

Hi Titus, you bet! I’m glad they helped! It’s just nice to know someone else is going through it. Sorry to hear about your anxiety, it’s brutal. That’s a great question. And no, no purgative was used. I’m pretty sure the intent of the diet was used for that purpose. No sugar, fermented drinks / foods, no cured meats, no processed foods. Not have any of that for 2 weeks I think was enough to effect the gut’s bacteria. Just think about how you eat and them how quick you have to go to the bathroom. The stomach / intestines work fast! Perhaps it’s worth trying for yourself? Although certainly follow your doctors orders. I hope you feel better. It’s no fun,..if you have any questions please come back. You’ll get better! Just kept trying and thnaks for asking a question. It will help somebody going through it!

[@titusjonas5237]

@@ZeroStateReflex Thank you for all these encouraging words! You know, I'm from Germany, it's not so easy for me to understand all these things, but I try. I've just started with Nystatin, got no help at all over here, terrible health system, in my opinion, I'm feeling so unsure ... By the way: Did you lose weight or gain weight at that time with Nystatin? I've already lost quite a lot, as far as I can see.

[@ZeroStateReflex]

@@titusjonas5237 Hello Titus, you're very welcome! Sorry to hear you're not getting good help over there. Keep trying though and just do the best you can mate! I think I lost weight while I was on the diet while taking Nystatin as I cut all processed foods / sugars out of my diet. It's been awhile so it's hard to remember exactly how much. I've since returned to normal weight and think I'm back to "normal," whatever that means, haha.. Have your anxiety symptoms gotten better since you changed your diet? Just curious.

[@tasxoxoxo6112]

Did you nystatin cure your Candida?

[@titusjonas5237]

@@tasxoxoxo6112 Yes, I believe so! The test results were negative. But the weight loss is still a big problem, and anxiety, too, I have to add that.

[@ambrosia_333]

I’ve been having horrible panic attacks since being on Nystatin

[@ZeroStateReflex]

Hello Ambrosia, I'm so sorry to hear that. Panic attacks are the worst. There could be so many things that could be causing your panic attacks, although definitely ask your doctor if what you're doing could be making, or causing you to have more panic attacks. I don't recall having worse panic attacks while taking Nystain, though everyone's body is different. One thing you could try to do is don't take anything with caffeine or stimulants while you are using Nystatin. Give your body a chance to clear the candida out of your gut. Maybe that will help, I hope you feel better and just try to stay as positive as you can. If you do find something that helps please stop by and let me know. You could help someone just by leaving a comment on what you found out.

[@Miguel-st9bd]

What type of supplements you tooked?

[@OGAesthetics]

Atleast u can talk. My candida is so bad i have 0 energy i have 0 motivation i have so bad brain fog im unable to work or speak to my family. Social interactions makes me stressed af short of breath. I dread everyday. I am gonna try nystatin today or tomorrow i hope it works…. I have all signs of candida

[@OGAesthetics]

@timkonj no :-( i am on day 6/28 of fluconazole now. Im still severely sick

[@JordanCole.SaltandLight]

At what point after the Nystatin treatment did you notice improvement? I mean any kind like when did your white tongue disappear. When did you stop having anxiety?

[@ZeroStateReflex]

Hello Jordan, for the Nystatin, if I remember correctly it was around day 5 / 6 when I didn't have such bad body aches. I don't think I was checking my tongue. The anxiety dissipated slowly over time. All in all it took about 2 years to feel "normal," or not have anxiety attacks out of the blue. Looking back my body was under a lot of stress, I was drinking a lot, which I think threw my gut out of whack. Which is why I started the Nystatin. I think the idea was to get my body back in balance and then hopefully my mind would follow. I was doing things for my mind at the time too. Meditation was really helpful. Was 20 minutes once a week. I don't know what was causing what,...was my body causing the anxiety? Or was my anxiety causing my body issues? It's always hard to untangle, we're so damn complex as humans. Anyway, it may be that your anxiety, if you're having issues is related to your body, (i.e. your gut) and if you address that and it doesn't help, you may have to then address your mind. It all works together and as mentioned can be hard to isolate. Addressing the body can be the easiest way first though. Get your body as healthy as you can. Exercise, get good sleep, try to minimize alcohol, caffeine and sugar intake. Once you have that under control, (just do the best you can), then you can try to address your mind. Are you depressed? Worried a lot? These are a little harder to address, though I was going to counseling for the couple years too which really helped. I hope you have the resources to do that if you can. Hopefully that helps! Either way I hope you can make some progress. Small changes over time can really help.

[@sir.burbonburg7008]

i think you have the same personality like i .... and had the same problem with candida like i. :)

[@ZeroStateReflex]

Sir. Burbonburg then I can only assume, that you are an amazing person. :D Tell me, if you’d like, what has been one of the most helpful things you’ve learned in your life?

[@sir.burbonburg7008]

@@ZeroStateReflex I can not say that, it was more of a process that took a long time to become what I am now. Ultimately, as far as my fears go, I always have the nails to be judged wrong and so I have adapted myself that I do not condemn anyone. I think that's the most important and what someone can appreciate about me.

[@sir.burbonburg7008]

@@ZeroStateReflex I have not read all the comments from each of your nystatin vids, can you tell me in a nutshell what you ate in the 14 days? I will soon do the therapy too, so I have the parasite still in me. BTW I think for me was the trigger amalgam and a very bad diet. I have been candida for 5 years now. When I stopped smoking I also received a systematic infection that caused me to have hypothyroidism and diabetes symptoms. really shabby if you consider that a yeast fungus can destroy one's life.

[@ZeroStateReflex]

@@sir.burbonburg7008 Great answer, wise words! "adapted myself that I do not condemn anyone.."

[@ZeroStateReflex]

@@sir.burbonburg7008 My diet for the 14 days was no sugar, no processed meats, no dairy, no alcohol, no caffine (although I did drink some de-caf coffee a couple times,..because I"m human..lol). Just the most basic foods possible. I mostly ate salads and eggs if I recall. And fair enough, the fugus are no F'ing around! Pretty profound to think that an inbalance in your gut can have such wide spread effects. It makes sense in a way with our modern diets, (which appear to be mostly bad for us,,..). Biology is a powerful force! Alas, I hope you are doing better and have learned enough to know what's going on with your body. It can be a rough road. Thanks for stopping by though. I'm sure some of what you said can help other people and that's the whole point of doing this. I know it's had positive effects out there in the world. Perhaps that's all we can ask for.

[@saeedahmed5429]

Did your Nystatin cure your Candida? My doctor said it'll cure mine

[@ZeroStateReflex]

Great question. I believe it helped, though I didn't have an objective test to actually tell me that. The symptoms I had (white tongue, anxiety,..) were indicative of a candida overgrowth so I was prescribed Nystatin to treat it. Nystatin is used to treat candida overgrowth and it does work, along with treating thrush. I had multiple symptoms all kinda working together I think.

[@tanishajw1131]

@@ZeroStateReflex how long did they prescribed you they only did 1 week for me

[@ZeroStateReflex]

@@tanishajw1131 I think it was 12 days? Something like that,..it's been awhile. It felt longer just because I had to do it so many times a day. Hand lotion!

[@fightforfreedom21]

I forgot to ask one thing, what exams do you recommend to check if our gut is back to normal?

[@ZeroStateReflex]

If you have oral thrush (white tongue) you should see an improvement, whereas your tongue does not have a white coating after treatment. A doctor can help you determine that. I know you can get stool tests, though I didn't pursue that. It's hard because "back to normal" is very subjective to your own body. I don't think there's a standard "gut" biology for everyone. It depends on a lot of factors for each person. Diet, genetics, environment, etc,... I think by what you mean as "normal" is if you feel good, and or don't have stomach issues that keep you from living a normal life (lol, "normal" life). I do know that diet can have a massive impact on people's health. If there's one thing I would check out it would be your diet. If you can it might be worth seeing a nutritionist. A good example is I live in Seattle and because of all the overcast skys we need more Vitamin D. Something as simple as that can have a big effect. If you do find a exam that can tell you more about your gut health please come back and let me know! I'd love to understand my gut health better. Cheers and I hope you feel better and everything goes well! Thank you for your questions. They could really help someone in the future.

[@laurainfinity1390]

How long did you lower back pain last during your treatment I am having that now?

[@ZeroStateReflex]

If I recall it was about 3 days, maybe 4. Advil was really helpful if you can take that, I hope you feel better!

[@michaelloconti5511]

Amazing story bro I am truly happy for you. You seem like a dope guy. Try quit the xanax tho. Keep up with the exercise👍

[@ZeroStateReflex]

Cheers mate! I did quit the X and still crushing workouts. Great minds! 💪🏻 🔥

[@kylieshinez]

Were you taking a probiotic while on Nystatin?

[@ZeroStateReflex]

Hi Aimee, I did try probiotics for awhile,..I don't think I was taking them while on Nystatin though remember trying them. Though when I did some research into probiotics I found that probiotics are still dubious in terms of the benefits they offer. In that everyone's gut is different and probiotics only have certain bacterial strains in them. There doesn't seem to be "one probiotic fits all" if you know what I mean. Because every human has different gut bacteria I couldn't tell if taking them would be helpful...plus they were expensive. I think just eating yogurt would be beneficial for bacteria in your gut. Had I been able to measure what bacteria I was needing and find the probiotic that had that particular strain perhaps I would have continued. If you've had a different experience with probiotics please let me know, I couldn't definitely learn more about it!

[@fightforfreedom21]

Hi, have you been on Nystatin treatment for the past 3 years? also did you think was more relevant to your result the diet or the nystatin? i am on the same nystatin treatment :)

[@ZeroStateReflex]

Hello Citizen5. Nope, since I did that one treatment, which is shown in the video series I haven't been back. I think everything has an impact. If you clean up your diet, so to speak (no alcohol, processed foods, etc) it will help your biology for sure. When I was prescribed the Nystatin I had been going to multiple doctors to try and figure out what was wrong with me. I think the candida overgrowth was from a bad diet, stress, and drinking to much alcohol. I was badly coping with a lot of stress at that time. My main issue was anxiety symptoms. Panic attacks and a general just unease. It took quite awhile for my body to "calm down" i.e. my anxiety symptoms slowly receded. I don't think Nystatin solved all my problems at once. Nystatin is solely used as an antifungal. If you're taking Nystatin for a fungal issue it will work well. Although a fungal outbreak can happen again. Everyone's body is different so you really just have to experiment and pay attention to what's effecting your body. I think for most people your diet can have a big impact so that's one easy way to see if what you're putting in your body is working for, or against you. I hope that helps and you feel better!

[@fightforfreedom21]

@@ZeroStateReflex There are different types of candida overgrow, usually candida is located in the intestine. Oral suspension of Nistatin is prescribed for those who have oral trush (a type of candida overgrow) because it's inhibited by the stomach acid and so can't arrive to the intestine (this is the reason why there is the nistatin pills version which can get through the intestine). So do you think you had oral trush or your tongue was perfectly normal and you had more digestive problems that maybe would suggest you had candida overgrow in the intestine? In addition, usually candida overgrow occurs when there is an immuno suppression (the majority of the time is because of a viral infection, like EBV etc..) or and antibiotic treatment (dysbiosis of the microflora, but i think this is less common). From what you have described, like you anxiety symptoms, maybe you got the Lyme infection.

[@ZeroStateReflex]

@@fightforfreedom21 holy shit that's some good analysis. Best I've heard in these years so far. Alright, so I think I had both thrush, (mouth, white tongue) and intestinal (doc mentioned white tongue and speculated on intestinal I think), based on what you've described. Assuming the alcohol consumption (fermentation) and high cortisol from persistent stress (immune suppressant) were working in tandem perhaps (?). My specific symptoms escalated from derealization, to panic attacks to a persistent "buzz" feeling in my nervous system, (generalized anxiety) which subsided after a couple years. I was doing multiple treatments at the same time, so hard to really objectively nail down what worked. Nystatin could have just passed through me,..I don't have a test to validate it. I can't see those symptoms manifesting by Lyme disease though. Is there a reason you suggest that?

[@TomasCordoba11]

@@ZeroStateReflex Hey! glad to know you are feeling better. I know this is an old video but Im feeling the same. What worked for you in terms of derealization? Did the nystatin cure this? what was the thing that helped the most? Thank you!!

[@ZeroStateReflex]

@@TomasCordoba11 thank you! And you ask some great questions. That is an indication to me that you're going to figure out whatever you're going through. Will answer your questions one at a time: • What worked for you in terms of derealization? My derealization was happening at the peak of my anxiety. Mostly at work and subsided when I quit my job. The derealization was a massive warning sign I think. Meaning I think we can all have anxiety to some extent. Though if your anxiety is creating panic attacks at some point it will evolve into derealization. The derealization scared the shit out of me as I'd never experienced that. So that's what prompted me to quit my job and seek help. I think when I left my job it took a massive amount of stress off my shoulders which helped my mind / pysche to relax enough so it stopped. I was doing a lot of things to figure out what was happening. Counseling, diet, (nystatin) doctors, psychiatry, everything I could think of. • Did the nystatin cure this? No. I don't think so,..I can't unfortunately say, "doing nystatin did X" because our bodies and minds are so complicated. I think doing the nystatin helped insomuch as perhaps it did help my gut bacteria balance out (less candida) which affected my brain, which affected my psyched,.etc. It's really hard to say one thing did one effect. Everything in combination helped over time. One thing I would say is NEVER GIVE UP. You might try something and not see it's effects for a couple weeks,..just keep going. We're getting to used to "I need this, give me a pill" I did try a couple of medications and the effects were so bad I quit them immediately. You have to be willing to experiment (safely of course) and see what works. I do know mediation did help a lot. It was 20 minutes of sitting silently in a group once a week. It was the only time I actually felt calm. • what was the thing that helped the most? I'll try to keep this brief DO NOT GIVE UP (it might take awhile, just keep going..just keep going..just keep going) BE PATIENT WITH YOURSELF (ok, you're in a bad state..breathe,..keep going, keep experimenting, you'll figure it out) IT TOOK TIME TO GET THAT WAY, IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME TO GET OUT OF IT (similar to be patient,.baby steps, make a little progress) FIND SOMETHING MORE MEANINGFUL THAN YOURSELF (at our core, if we have something to live for that's more important than our suffering it's much easier to get out of it). This one's a little existential though it worked for me. I started using photography to go outside more, get used to people,..photography became more important than the anxiety which lessened the anxiety. The problem with anxiety is it consumes you so that's all you think about. You have to force it away with other things. I hope that helps and hopefully just one thing in there clicks for you. I believe in you because you're here asking questions. You're going to make it and do great things. And when you make it out you'll help other people by teaching them just like I am. Please come back if you have any thoughts, or find something that works! It may help someone else! Cheers and be safe, and good luck.

[@OGAesthetics]

Did nystatin cure ur candida then anxiety. ???

[@Miguel-st9bd]

How you lower your cortisol?

[@ZeroStateReflex]

Hello Miguel, lowering cortisol, if your cortisol levels are high because of stress, is one of the best ways you can help your body. First thing you need to do is reduce your stress levels. 1. Exercise for at least 20 minutes a day. Just take a walk if you need to. 2. If your stress levels are high and you can't figure out what to do, talk to a counselor. If you can. 3. Meditation. Sit quietly for 20 minutes a day. There are local meditation meetups you can find online. I hope that helps! Stay positive!

[@Miguel-st9bd]

Zero State Reflex thanks for the reply

[@michaelloconti5511]

The 🐓hahahaha

[@interstellardweller3928]

Your eyes look puffy like mine did before I was diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder. Maybe you need to see a rheumatologist. Be careful of the oral meds they give. They damage the stomach etc. ask for biological meds if u can.

[@ZeroStateReflex]

I'm doing well now, definitely diet and stress. Seems my gut was out of whack, along with life stuff. Nystatin is really safe to take so I think that was a good solution, though our biology is so complex it can be tough to figure out exactly what is causing what,..psychological notwithstanding too. Being human is ruthless sometimes. I hope you're able to ease your autoimmune disorder. Thanks for the advice too.

[@davidmues7598]

Did you take xanax while you were on Nystatin?

[@ZeroStateReflex]

Yep, xanax is a life saver for anxiety / panic attacks,..haven’t taken in a long time once I got better. Not a long term drug for sure.

[@interstellardweller3928]

Maybe you’re eating too many vegetables.