This Fat Activist Logic Broke Me (HORRIFYING)

[@arianam6430]

I saw a video of a single mother who realized she was making her young (around 5 yo) daughter fat. She said that being a single mom, she wanted to give her daughter the whole world and not her feeling as though she lacked anything. So when the girl asked for snacks, sugary things, etc- she gave them...and gave them, and had a hard time saying no. When it finally dawned on her that she was setting her up for the worse, she made a plan to get her back on track. She didn't ever tell her she was overweight or made negative comments about her body. She just encouraged her to eat healthier snacks. The lady would make videos of them making new, healthier recipes together and her daughter loved it. She'd take her out to the park more and encouraged her to run around with the other kids. The daughter lost weight and was back on track all without feeling any negativity (or even knowing) she had any weight issue. I thought that was a really great story

[@arianam6430]

Here's the daughter's weightloss video btw- kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZSlnHlmoMlngs0

[@space_cadetmk6125]

We're currently doing this w/my 10yo. Reasons similar to the mom in your comment, and same approach with the changes. Working with her Dr and a nutritionist, also put up strong "behind the scenes" boundaries w/adult family members, everyone's on board. She just gets to do activities and fun exercises n such with me daily, we also cook all our own meals now, plus no more school lunches. We're already seeing a difference and she's none the wiser re: the biggest reasons behind it, other than learning great new life habits and better food mindsets. Hell, making it a family job has helped the adults as well. Everyone wins

[@Cherryblossoms110]

That's the way. My entire family blamed me for all of my weight problems when I was a child, even though I had absolutely no control over what I was eating. The craziest thing was that I was only a little chubby when I was a kid...

[@Jadeeee2323]

@@Cherryblossoms110 saaaaaaame for me. It makes me really happy that these parents are trying to guide their children to having a healthier lifestyle without shaming them or making them feel like something is "wrong" or bad or need to change. Just helping them find a healthier path. Setting those kids up to have a good relationship with food🥲

[@veganlyz234]

Omg I had the exact same experience. My mom literally put me on weight watchers when I was 8 years old. She would always shame me for being overweight and I wasn’t even that fat!

[@JudelovesRiver12]

Ok this actually upset me because it reminded me of this little girl at my daughters birthday party a couple years ago. She had such a hard time walking and breathing and had to sit with us adults because she couldn’t play for long. My heart breaks for kids who can’t have a normal childhood or life because their parents don’t take this stuff seriously.

[@raquelpk2]

Man that sucks . I remember this little girl no more than 1 1/2 years old .BtvvtShe went to a church next to my apartment . Anyways , everyone found her adorable . That leads me to A question. Why do people find toddlers or small children cute when they are overweight? I mean at the age after learning how to walk .You look at the parents and they are also overweight. So you know the child’s future. That poor toddler . 4 years after seeing her almost every weekend , she’s a very chubby 5 year old cast out by the other children .

[@SP-bg8on]

I agree. So sad and neglectful

[@cheekybabe666]

Especially since - assuming disorders like pika or something - all you gotta do is distract the kid and keep them busy, you literally provide the food that keeps them alive! YOU can manage their weight.

[@JudelovesRiver12]

@@cheekybabe666 I had pica as a teen, I’d crave sand and when I was a kid I’d lick rocks 😅 it’s sad how many parents are just neglectful because you’re right, it’s not rocket science

[@registeredjopper]

@@cheekybabe666 sorry I don't understand what you mean? do you mean that provided they don't have a disorder like pika that compels them to eat a (usually non-food) item, the best way to keep them from overeating is to keep them busy? or do you mean the best way to deal with pika is to keep them busy?

[@sallymac6072]

Rapid weight gain could also be a sign of trauma. Parents need to pay attention and ask questions. It is to keep them safe.

[@JogurtowyPotworek]

Yes!! So many people on my 600lbs life have endured trauma in their childhood and turned to food

[@Chelseabee55]

@@JogurtowyPotworek I don’t think you can reach 350+ pounds without trauma. It makes me really sad to see someone in that situation because you can never let your body get to that point and have good mental health

[@Cozy_cozzz]

This woman is projecting so hard. I feel like she needs some therapy. Seriously. I mean she calls obesity "the o word".

[@katodd2925]

I think KZbin won't let people say it

[@Gaia_Seraphina]

@@katodd2925 OBESITY. OBESITY. OBESITY.

[@katodd2925]

@@Gaia_Seraphina Not comments lol. The KZbin creators. They take down videos for it.

[@Gaia_Seraphina]

@@katodd2925 Why? Medical terms aren't illegal. Arbitrary censorship of free speech is.

[@MBroyalist]

@@katodd2925 genuinely a lot of people within that "movement" classify the word obesity as a slur. Even though its a medical classification for weight they think its outdated like the r word. 😬

[@iristhart2606]

The goal is to raise happy and healthy kids. Not ‘fat positive’ kids. I grew up on the chubbier side of normal and my mother would always call me chubby and worry about my weight from a young age. She had BED. It led to me having eating disorder from a young age. THAT BEING SAID. Raising me fat positive WOULD NOT have helped me at all. I absolutely hate the lack of nuance of the FA movement and I HATE how all people in the movement want to speak on my behalf. What would’ve helped? Nuance. No fat positivity, not diet culture either. Honest and open conversations on food, fat and all topics like that. EDUCATION in a child friendly way. It would’ve prevented an eating disorder that consisted of starving myself, binging, becoming underweight and eventually morbidly obese. I now lost 50lbs and have 50lbs to go before I’m ‘normal overweight’.

[@derbygirl642]

THANK YOU. this says it perfectly, there needs to be a balance.

[@willowwinkle]

I really love this comment. I agree, I think education and kindness is so much better than the lack of nuance. Congrats on your health journey! BTW, speaking as someone who had an ED and was very underweight as well as very overweight later as a consequence - I am now at a healthy BMI in the best shape I've ever been in thanks to dietary changes and exercise/weight lifting and a mindset shift where I try to focus on the positive things about my body every step of the way (including when i was obese) and just try to be consistent in my routines. It takes months/years but it's worth it! I always thought of myself as weak/lazy/slow, etc. none of which turned out to be true. Hang in there! 😊

[@Supernaturalman92]

Doesnt matter what you parents said. Once you hit school you would deal with so much bullying you would have eating disorder anyways

[@willowwinkle]

@Joana Gomes Yeah agree!! Can we not call each other mean names, and be kind and not shame chubby people or stigmatise the word 'obese' AND at the same time recognize that obesity is a health issue ? Pretending it's not doesn't help anyone with any kind of health issue or disordered eating. Whether influenced by environment, emotional factors, illness, or genetic factors - obesity still ONLY occurs when a person eats more calories than they burn. That's why some obese people over-eat in huge quantities while others may not. Everyone's metabolic propensity/ability differs but EVERYONE can improve their health and bring their body fat ratio to a healthier balance.

[@RosiePinUp]

@@Supernaturalman92 that’s something that kids learn though. Kids don’t realize fatness if society didn’t stigmatize it so much

[@andianderson3017]

My son was on the heavier side, and when the doctor first pointed it out me I’ll admit I was offended. He didn’t look fat at all to me, just sturdier than the other kids. My family is broad. Whatever. But over time, it became more and more obvious. At that point I started trying to encourage healthy habits more than before, but I still wasn’t bringing it up to him. No way. And then he started breathing harder from basic activities and trying to keep up with his friends. That freaked me right out. We started getting on him for his habits directly. But STILL I would not tell him directly. And one day I looked at him and realized it was affecting his life in a real way, so I talked to him. He cried. I felt awful. My mother had put so much pressure on me and gave me so much hurtful and bad advice. I told him I never needed him to be thin. We were strong and sturdy people. That’s fine! But I never wanted it to stop him from doing what he wanted, and I didn’t want him to get sick. We came up with a plan together. I very carefully taught him what calories were. We started not keeping snacks at home or on reach. He was still welcomed and encouraged to eat treats and snacks, though heavier ones were reserved for special trips outside the home. I also emphasized to him that we did NOT want him to lose weight. The goal was to keep his weight the same for a bit while he got taller and it wasn’t the main goal. And I didn’t just put it on him. My husband and I got better. I personally got a lot healthier and as a result lost a lot of weight-and felt so much better. I was so terrified of traumatizing him. But I gave him information and let him be part of it. I told him what a handsome boy he was repeatedly, no matter his size. Nothing can change that. I assured him that chubby is not really a problem-we just don’t want a run-away train. I encouraged him to not be embarrassed when kids called him fat because I’ve always been fat and there are way worse things to be. We can own that AND try to get healthier. It’s been such a journey. He is still SOLID, but he’s gotten more active and more confident again and he is making more and more healthy choices like choosing fruit or considering the protein he’s had today. We don’t count calories, but he checks labels just to think about what’s in something before he eats it. My goal has been to teach him good confidence and balance with fun foods. I even use a lot of intuitive eating vocabulary-but we are honest about what health is and that we do not want to eat to the point that our bodies feel bad. Anyway. I was so afraid of hurting him. We did it slowly, gently, and we did it together. You can help your kid and not be an asshole or a liar.

[@kelseyf2619]

I think you are doing a great job and have a great kiddo :)

[@andianderson3017]

@Joana Gomes My husband and I tell each other all the time, that our parents weren't perfect--but they were better than their parents. So our main goal, is to learn from their mistakes and be better than them. And we also tell our kids, that we WANT them to be better than us, and their kids to be better than them. This improving as humans thing takes serious time! My parents weren't evil either. They saw my weight was hurting me and went into a tailspin of anxiety with all the worst 90s diet advice and shaming they could give me. I had to learn nutrition the hard way on my own, but now I can pay it forward. On we go bit by bit. I'm glad you found your way too. I know that wasn't easy, but we are some strong people who can make the world around us better as a result.

[@Katrin-os5qe]

Andi, it reads like you are an amazing parent! You should be really proud of yourself. And I bet you‘re raising a great boy!

[@arctic_desert]

framing it as maintaining weight during height growth is such a stroke of genius! A good way to stick to real math while also psychologically getting around the loaded phrase "weight loss".

[@msmaria5039]

That is good. Empathizing on having a healthy diet and not gaining weight but still growing. It takes courage to admit your mistakes and focus on helping your son in a healthy way.

[@IrinaZumba]

She thinks the ONLY reason that a child prefers a cookie to veggies is reverse psychology?! Because we make them eat the peas but keep cookies restricted? Can't be the addictive sugar and the tasty flavors? Wowwww

[@loiracitr]

We should try it! "No more peas until you finish your ice-cream!"

[@jinaolen786]

I've come across this same advice before from a child nutritionist who does have kids, and I'm still baffled. If I start the meal with sweets, nothing else is getting eaten 💯 Never gonna happen in my house!

[@cosmicreef5858]

It is literally tasteless because it is not good for you. This is why they are over pumped in sugar. To numb your senses! More like it is just addictive. Kids need to taste original/healthy food first so that their senses can develop properly. Never use treats as a way of avoiding your parental duties!

[@CaitlinGrant-cb6rw]

They proved a lot of food dyes are truly addictive and they can cause mental illness like ADHD, depression and autism.

[@CaitlinGrant-cb6rw]

@@loiracitrI noticed, especially with my youngest, my view of the food affects them. If I act like the food is important they eventually fallow suit.

[@bigtee2000]

For someone (the lady) who seems to be so concerned about triggering words (which I think if you are triggered by "obese" you need to get over yourself), she sure af sounds snide and condescending towards everyone other than herself.

[@applegal3058]

I found her hard to listen to, had to speed up her video to get through it quicker. That and the obviously biased, uneducated case she's trying to make is so awful!

[@realdragon]

It's medical term, it's like being triggered by word "retina" or "malaria" "My loved one got the m word"

[@elainascott7496]

Where is she getting her info??? You can ABSOLUTELY eat your way into Type 2 Diabetes just as diet and exercise can rid you of Type2 Diabetes. I have a very good friend who got off of insulin and stopped his diabetes in its tracks and he did it with lifestyle and diet changes. People can be born with insulin resistance and that is how kids can become diabetic.

[@itsgonnabeanaurfromme]

Diet and exercise can help with type 2 diabetes to control the amount of circulating blood glucose and to prevent the insulin receptors from being downregulated. But if you have diabetes that at this point requires insulin, the damage is there, you have diabetes, you have no choice but to prevent complications by lowering your blood glucose. Do not make any claim that diet and exercise can rid you of type2 diabetes. That only works for a small proportion of people and only the complications and blood sugar is controlled, not the disease itself, which is the insulin and insulin receptor defect.

[@NvaderRetro]

Thank you, per usual my guy is being too nice in his videos. This information is dangerous and will ruin someone's life.

[@bigchicken5243]

isnt that the difference between type 1 and type 2? type 1 you are born with and type 2 come mostly from lifestyle( ofc not just from obesity but the poor eating style)

[@YoungMorningkeeper]

@@bigchicken5243 yess. Thats how it is if I remember correctly. 2 of my friends are type 1 diabetic. One of them being as fit as can be. Type 1 is genetic type 2 is poor lifestyle choices.

[@cynthiaking5308]

@@bigchicken5243 type 1 is autoimmune - your body attacks the insulin producing cells and they no longer produce insulin. You have to inject insulin so your body can metabolize food. It can happen at any age. Type 2 is ‘insulin resistant’. Your body can’t use the insulin it produces. Lifestyle choices like eating good food as well as losing weight can essentially ‘cure’ it. That’s why people who undergo bariatric surgery find with the weight loss they also are able to use their own insulin and the Type 2 diabetes they were looking at is now under control. It can also help with high blood pressure. I’m not sure this is fact, but i heard for every pound of fat there is a mile of blood vessels that supports it, and your heart has to work that much harder to supply blood to the additional tissue. I hope this makes sense.

[@hunnybeezy]

Eating whatever you want, whenever you want, IS disordered eating. Eating disorder =/= restrictive eating. I love to take hot baths. I can stay in the bath for over an hour. But if I start taking a hot bath several times a day, staying in for over 3 hours, most would say that's excessive and something wrong is likely going on internally. The idea that restricting means bad and no restrictions means good is twisted. Everything needs boundaries and limits. Just because it feels good doesn't mean it is good. Love has boundaries. If you love yourself and your children, you will set boundaries. And if you accept the need for some boundaries in life, why would food consumption not be included in that?

[@luizaviktualia]

100%

[@sunnydayhanerh]

I work as a preschool teacher and let me tell you, I have way too many stories about the intense "anti-diet culture" parents.. I often encourage children to eat their "energy foods" in their lunch boxes first (fruit, veg, sandwiches etc!) and if they have a treat to save it til near the end. I got absolutely reemed at the start of the year for this, with a dad saying that I'll cause these kids to have eating disorders :))) Like my guy, I've had an eating disorder in the past and it was caused by trauma and anxiety. Not by my preschool teaching calling an apple an energy food lmao

[@friedrice4015]

This is such a good way to think about it though. It isn't that the cupcake is a "bad" food, it's that it isn't giving kids the energy they need to run and play. It's a very effective and age appropriate way to explain that to kids, I'm gonna have to start doing that with the ones I babysit.

[@pixi3d3ath47]

My family is African and we have that exact culture around food. Nothing wrong with a little bit of sugar, but you have to eat the healthier food first, or you won’t eat it at all despite being hungry enough for some chocolate.

[@Sina-aka-potatosupreme]

I think children learn a lot from what they see and when they see their parents eat healthy food they adapt these habits way easier. A lot of parents just don't want to go off their unhealthy diet just because they have a kid now and should be a good role model...

[@abbylheureux1317]

Energy food is the perfect way to phrase it! Doesn’t make make the food a negative or positive, just gives the idea it provides fuel so they can play more. That’s crazy the dad say that to you!

[@vickieharris3850]

Eating healthy and running about does not cause eating disorders..any parent who believes that is setting their little one up for future misery.

[@namedULaika]

Great response! They go on about how much money the diet industry makes every year, but refuse to acknowledge the multi-billion dollar snack/fast food industry, and how most processed foods are engineered to be highly addictive. Being a healthy adult means exercising some level of restraint against things that are harmful to you.

[@SelfAbridged]

"They go on about how much money the diet industry makes every year, but refuse to acknowledge the multi-billion dollar snack/fast food industry" TRUTH

[@pupperbless]

They also don't acknowledge that some of these toxic diet organisations are OWNED by the fast food industry

[@madie6523]

That fact that she said “ O word” instead of just saying Obese, I think shows how in denial she is.

[@talita8882]

Someone raised as a fat positive child here 🙋🏻‍♀️. This hits home very hard. My childhood was much before the term “fat positive” even existed, but I was raised with the concept of real body positivity in terms of not judging or body shaming anyone, and this is excellent. BUT… I was also raised doomed to be fat, I was a fat child because of the way I was permitted to eat. My mom taught me to eat my veggies, but both my parents encouraged me to indulge with them in all kinds of unhealthy food too. I was severely bullied at school and by other members of family and it was confusing. As I was raised not to shame anyone’s looks, I couldn’t understand why I was so humiliated because of mine. I started to “eat my emotions” and became an obese teen during the 90’s, which meant only having clothes better age appropriate to my grandmother to wear, I was always reminded how unattractive I looked. Then, when I finally got to adulthood, obese and depressed, society started saying I CHOSE TO BE FAT. I didn’t. That messed up very hard with my mental health, so learning to have healthy habits was so hard. I developed an ED and my heath went downhill. Of course an adult can take accountability and improve, I managed to do it after suffering very much. Kids depend on their caregivers to learn healthy habits. Please don’t submit your children to damaging their health just to protect parents’ own lack of self control and indulgence. I hope my story contributes to someone somehow. Thank you very much for this great video, John.

[@hannahb9195]

This is such an important story to share. Very similar to my own. Thank you x

[@Teenywing]

I see your comment is old now but I had a very similar situation, I’m probably around the same age (47) and had the same experience with the bullying. Back then no one cares about kids being bullied and it was so lonely, humiliating and scary. Even though I grew out of being sooo overweight by 16 I have never gotten over it. I still hate my photo being taken, have extremely low self esteem and am afraid of people saying things to me. It breaks my heart to hear of parents just accepting kids being unhealthy and obese and not loving them enough to nourish them with healthy food. ❤❤❤ I hope you are well and happy❤❤❤

[@apfelmus4360]

Oh wow, I experienced kind of a similar thing, even though I was never really bullied and thankfully I did not become obese because I was also kind of athletic and started exercizing a lot when I was a teenager (my brothers did get obese, though). My parents (both of them obese themselves) never made food or weight issues that should be discussed. We ate healthy in terms of food variety, having a lot of veggies, fruits, whole grains etc. but at the same time we always had a lot of sweets in the house wiht unlimited access to it and (probobably even more relevant) no control over portion sizes, when I was a kid I would easily eat 3-4 plates in one meal because no one really taught me what a sensible portion size is. I´m in my thirties now and still struggle with this. Disclaimer: I absolutely love both of my parents and think they did a good job as parents over all. Both of them came from families where eating restrictions and eating disorders were an issue, so not talking about weight and food at all was what seemed to be the best option for them at the time and I totally can see where they were coming.

[@talita8882]

@@apfelmus4360 Control over portion sizes is definitely one of the biggest determiners of a child’s future behavior towards food.

[@rosyface_]

A Facebook group I’m in really focuses heavily on the “fatphobic” doctor scenario. One poster said that she was going for a check up on her type 2 diabetes and fatty liver disease and had all this Health At Every Size data to take in in case the doctor mentioned weight loss to her. I read that amazed at her lack of self awareness. Evidently if you’ve got fatty liver disease and type 2 diabetes, you’re not healthy at this specific size you’re at?

[@Chelseabee55]

Even if you can be ‘healthy at every size’ (you can’t) she WASN’T healthy, so why did those stats matter? People will do anything but change

[@Kelly_KC]

As someone that was diagnosed with full blown type 2 diabetes at 12. This is seriously upsetting. I've lost opportunities due to my medical conditions. Thankfully I've been doing intermittent fasting along with a low carb diet. I have lost 50 lbs and have put my diabetes into remission. Meaning after eating a sugary or heavy carb meal my blood glucose are in normal ranges. It's practically gone and my new doctor can't understand when I tell him I was a diabetic. This "activist" is going to harm so many kids wanting to hear things that align with their way of life.

[@maggielyall811]

Congratulations for all the hard work and taking responsibility for your own situation, awesome job 🙂

[@realdragon]

It's amazing honestly how many diseases can just go away when you try to be healthy

[@greendancingpudding]

The thing I find so funny is that binge eating disorder is an eating disorder. A lot of overweight kids are that way because they are eating too much. They fall into the same traps that adults do because those are their role models. That is what they see!! So most of them already have bad relationships with food before trying to “diet”. Part of the reason they don’t get diabetes is because they are young! Their bodies work so hard but maybe once they reach their twenties they start having their medical issues. I think with kids it all starts with parents and other adults in their life. Also the fast food industry that fat activists never seem to talk about.

[@riverdaisy4215]

Binge eating disorder is also one of the most common if not THE most common eating disorder

[@elmore707]

Not all overweight kids/people have binge eating disorders though. Binge eating is always paired with trauma or other mental health issues as well.

[@greendancingpudding]

@@riverdaisy4215 That's very true. And it's not always a disorder but overeating is a massive problem. A lot of it is on the parents but as an overweight person that is working on their weight it is hard and I worry for these kids. The adults around them are failing because they are passing off their own struggles with food to their kids.

[@greendancingpudding]

@@elmore707 I didn't say all but i did say a lot of kids have overeating problems. You are right in that most probably don't have binge eating but I was relating to the activists idea that most kids that diet with get an eating disorder because i think most of them think of anorexia or bulimia when speaking about disordered eating. I totally understand trauma and mental health. i am an overweight woman that is slowly losing weight after a struggle with endometriosis that caused depression and PTSD. My worry is that these kids are already off to a bad start in life that have role models that overeat and have issues with food that rub off on them and aren't addressed by the adults so that when they reach my point they don't have any idea where to start. These kids might start feeling similar shame from their peers or society and start the cycle of eating alone or hiding large amounts of junk food and eating in secret. I had this problem. They may not have a disorder but they will not have a healthy relationship with food and that is hard to break if they have no reference for anything else.

[@annal7406]

Also so many FA people talk about having had eating disorders or bad restrictive relationships with food before and that makes total sense! They've just swung from one eating disorder to another, or cut the restrict portion out of the binge/restrict cycle that most ed sufferers experience. They are still very much sick and in need of help.

[@Moose92411]

I cannot possibly take seriously the words of anyone who says "o-words all over the place." When you grow up and learn to speak like an adult, then we can talk

[@AKbaby89]

I have had 3 grandparents, one aunt, and an uncle die from type 2 diabetes. I am glad I was raised knowing the risks of being obese, I can't help but worry about how "fat positive kids" will turn out as adults

[@Gaia_Seraphina]

Sad and sick adults.

[@Aceofwolves]

There are FOUR EDs: Anorexia, bulimia, binge eating and pica. I had two of these as a child and my height was permanently affected as a result. My body is STILL dealing with thr aftermath...a decade later. It will NEVER fully recover. EVER. I could have been taller and devolped properly had i not had an ED.

[@beverlyhills8988]

There's also COED, EDNOS, orthorexia along with the subtypes of anorexia and bulimia, oh and ARFID if you count that as an eating disorder too. I've had bulimia, punctuated with periods of COED and some restrictive bouts, progressing into full on BED.

[@beverlyhills8988]

I'm guessing yours was a restrictive type eating disorder to affect your height? I'm sorry you went through that. It's the last thing a child should be dealing with.

[@tell-me-a-story-]

@@beverlyhills8988 If children don’t get enough nutrition they can’t grow.

[@denisefox5973]

I was a teacher for 14 years, primary education, and l remember one day we took a class of children out on a field trip, a lot of walking was involved, one of the little girls became extremely upset, but wouldn't say why.. anyway, after calming her down and getting her to tell us what was wrong, she showed us.. Where her upper thighs were so big, they'd rubbed together and caused what look like red raw burn marks..she must have been in so much pain..it was heartbreaking..💔

[@samateverysize]

Wow! I think kids should be taught how they make choices every day that impact their health. Teaching them responsibility for their bodies - the same way we teach them to protect themselves. Why is that so hard? Being overweight as a kid is so god damn hard - these people doing nothing for their kid in order to riot against diet culture aren't doing the best they can for their kids. And that makes me sad and angry. I'm glad you covered this. Edit: Also the comparison to being tall is so annoying to me! I talked about it in my video on Find Food Freedom. She basically said someone coming to her to lose weight is equal to going to the doctor and asking them to shave height. I can't with this analogy.

[@luizaviktualia]

Extreme tallness can be a problem too, but they seem to not know about that. I was very tall at age 13 and it was a concern how much more I'd grow. I had my epiphyseal plate in my wrist checked to see if medical intervention would make sense (it wasn't necessary, I only grew like an inch more after that). But for some people it makes sense because being abnormally tall also leads to issues with your joints etc. THAT BEING SAID weight is not genetic in the same way that height is - the comparison is wrong on many levels.

[@loafywolfy]

@@luizaviktualia hey i was the same, grew all i was supposed to till i was 12, then no more

[@ky4864]

Okay, when they'retalking about class and race being tied to diabetes, it is BECAUSE certain people who are marginalized (sometimes due to class or race) often eat less expensive food, which is unhealthy. It's not because certain classes of people are just randomly more prone to diabetes, etc. It's because of food. They are completely contradicting their whole point with that.

[@derp8185]

Yes! And there’s also a lifestyle component- a lot of people from lower-income backgrounds are still eating the foods that made sense for their great-grandparents, who worked really physically challenging jobs. For example, I grew up in a rural area where obesity is a huuuuge issue for farmers bc farming went from being one of the most physically demanding jobs in the world to being almost completely mechanized but everyone is still eating the same recipes their grandparents made

[@so._.anyways]

There’s was a girl in my second grade class who was severely overweight/obese. She had type 2 diabetes and had to chew gum/take her blood sugar constantly. No one judged her for the diabetes, but they bullied her relentlessly for wearing training bras. We were all really young so obviously we never wore them, but they knew it was because she was bigger that she “needed”them. Why do parents not see this as a problem? The kid is having a really hard time and is suffering social/health consequences for their abnormal weight.

[@cableplusjackie]

As a mom of 3, I do feel like I have the ability to comment on this. All 3 of my kids are healthy weights and all participate in sports/activities. They’re 4, 6, & 8 for context. When I see an obese (not chunky, thick, chubby, wide etc) I’m talking OBESE CHILD, I immediately assume some sort of abuse. Usually neglect. My kids all eat junk food I’m not some health guru. They eat nuggets, pizza, lunchables, Oreos, Cheetos whatever. So what in the world could these children be eating to become obese? I also assume there’s no encouraged activity and they are just sat in front of a tv or tablet. That’s neglect.

[@mmmmmmmmaria]

as a former overweight child (constantly fat shamed and chided by pediatricians to my face although looking at pictures i wasn’t even that chubby) who was put into activities, some people just hate most forms of exercise no matter what. my mom did what she could being an effectively single working mom, but i’ve always preferred to sit down with a book to any kind of movement ever since i can remember (learned to read at 4 so i don’t have memories before being able to read). i like walking now and i make myself exercise but i still don’t like it. i must be some sort of anomaly and i’m sure others like me exist. it is very irresponsible to allow a child to get to that point though

[@loafywolfy]

@@mmmmmmmmaria same thing with me, i hate exercising, i walk 6 km on the treadmil every day because its the only way i can force myself to do any meaningful exercise. i have BED and was pretty obese when i was a child, only lost the weight when i accepted ill never like exercisng (and understood how nutrition works better too)

[@mmmmmmmmaria]

@@loafywolfy same! i never got into overweight territory but i struggle a lot with overeating and extra weight in regards to my personal case. forcing myself is the only thing that works. props to you for that hard work and discipline!

[@Angiologist36]

The only thing that matters is what and how much you eat when it comes to weight, that's it. This is coming from a kid who was at always at a healthy weight until around age 10 (parental and living situation changed for a short bit) and became chubby for about 2 years, the only thing that changed my course was eating appropriate portions of healthy meals daily. I still have junk food/fast food at times but would never eat 2+ entire McDonald's combos like I used to do as a 10 year old. I've been more or less active during my childhood but never did any group activities like sports because I despise it, and became largely sedentary into my teenage years and young-adulthood. But even so, my weight has always been healthy after the change in eating habits. It literally is just calories in vs. calories out.

[@ciaraoconnor3437]

““We don’t talk about weight as if it’s a problem””. Ya but would she say the same thing if we were talking about someone who is dangerously underweight from anorexia or from malnourishment or cancer treatment ? Weight most definitely can be a problem on both ends of the spectrum.

[@realdragon]

I assure you she would not say that. Fat activists always say "healthy at every size" etc. but what they really mean is "overweight or obese people are healthy and everything else is eating disorder"

[@quehagoconmividasos]

11:55 they ALREADY have disorder eating. Most people are not obese because they love food, many people are because the feel a sense of void, loneliness, because they're stressed asf etc

[@shilos9745]

My favorite thing to watch is adults with absolutely 0 credibility talk so confidently about shit they know nothing about. The sheer self-absorption someone must have with themselves to film themselves literally deny science & medicine with no degrees or education to show for it. In what world do you think your personal philosophy is more righteous or credible than that of people who have actually studied the topic and have ample research to back them up? AND THEN to have the nerve to admit "I'm not an expert, but-" and continue spewing the same garbage? It's laughable honestly.

[@heatherfaust7643]

Kids don’t like sweets because they think they’re rare and bad for them… they like them because they are sugary and tasty

[@SindyJ37]

Nobody has had their kids removed due to being overweight. There is absolutely something else going on beyond weight issues. I appreciate John speaking out on that issue

[@luizaviktualia]

Apparently there were/are cases in the UK where dangerously overweight kids/teens were put into the care system, after repeated intervention with the family failed to bring their weight down. It's about the children's health and lives, and I guess is considered a form of child neglect there.

[@snooganslestat2030]

Actually there have been a couple cases in the UK. A child is deemed to be neglected if they are malnourished so why is it not the same when the child is morbidly obese?

[@NerdvsFat]

I'm definitely going to raise my kids to have a healthy relationship with food due to my upbringing. My parents let me eat as much as I wanted and whatever to an extent. I absolutely don't blame my weight on them, but that way of eating is all I knew until recently. Now I'm forging my new path with food and exercise and it's eye opening.

[@yidavv]

I mean.. your parents are definitely at fault for letting you just eat whatever and whenever you want. May feel bad to blame them but you wouldn't have to be forging a new path for yourself if you were raised properly like you plan on doing with your own kids. This isn't to shit on your parents, but to act like they had no influence on your weight is just ignorant

[@Blackandwhitecat-u9v]

@@yidavv Agreed

[@NerdvsFat]

@@yidavv absolutely I see what you mean. I think it stems from them not having much growing up and that led to them going overboard with whatever I wanted. The past is the past though and none of that matters anymore. My parents have just recently began to see my changes and ask about what they can do to help their lifestyle.

[@IrinaZumba]

Yes, brilliant. Get them addicted to sugar and junk food early. Let them eat as much as they want. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@Gaia_Seraphina]

The designed food for kids is sugary for that very reason.

[@cosmicreef5858]

As much as the ED wants. They do not try to kill themselves therefor they do NOT enjoy it. Addiction is not joy

[@lavenderlemonade4322]

I just find this so interesting because she has no children and no interest in having them. Then, she makes assumptions about interactions with others and language that parents are using at home, and how to modify it with no real understanding of how the situations are occurring. I think it's definitely important to address the way that doctors speak to children. It's also obvious, that the parent is ultimately responsible for serving healthy foods and fostering healthy habits. I do like the good food / bad food language argument and agree that children CAN learn about how certain foods make their bodies feel (full, less full, hyper, tired, silly, "good", etc). I feel like she is just going through the motions to address HER own over-reactivity

[@lilianadoval8927]

I think that all this talk tries to justify and hide the problem that she really has with her own weight, no matter what she says about the topic. She talks about a world that doesn't exist. In the real world, overweight has to do not only with physical health but also with emotional health, which the most difficult to recover. Obviously we love our children no matter what size they are but precisely because we love them we try to guide them in the best way possible. Not paying attention to this kind of speech, that's for sure.

[@leona-lynne]

How spoiled is she to think all people have desert after dinner every night.

[@neen42]

Or can afford to eat unlimited amounts of food!

[@Linds.burkholder]

At 18:20 John - "I'm just going to say that from my own experience, okay?" The lady in the video "okay." hahaha

[@hildebrandt414]

I wished my parents would've watched my weight more when i was little, wouldn't have had such a hard time in school and as an adult too lose that overweight.

[@hildebrandt414]

@tech fx hope you are not making fun of me 👀

[@LilyLuluko]

Podcaster: I'm not an expert- me: CLEARLY John: CLEARLY me:

[@docouchi7929]

Psychology, physiology, pathology is sorbefaciently difficult, requires a lot of discipline and time to retain and understand… but yeah she isn’t an expert just a person with an opinion that has many logic gaps … but I love to hear what daemons people are creating from the natural phenomena 🥸

[@lmshanyfelt]

Diet and exercise are what keep me from being diabetic. When I slack, I venture into pre-diabetic territory. I would love if this wasn't the case, but it very much is.

[@Nik.No.K]

14:00 ish, if I was as heavy as this woman my life would be hell. Things were awful at 180lbs, I can’t imagine two or three hundred

[@DarkAquaVII]

I can't believe how common all this is getting. I know a few couples who have overweight kids and they do eat pretty poorly, plus far too much. My partner used to be a very overweight kid, his diet as a child was the complete opposite to mine, I was livid after he told me, not with him, but with his parents. It's bad enough seeing normal size kids being given far too many sugary treats and on a really crappy diet. Then they end up having to get fillings or teeth pulled out at a very young age or they end up with serious health issues. My little sister had to have 4 teeth removed when she was about 5, due to my parents giving her far too much sugar. My mom refuses to believe that she did any wrong, she will just say "we all have bad genetics" as an excuse. Which is bullcrap, because I remember my parents being very strick with my brother and I before our little sister was born. My parents refused to hold themselves accountable for anything. I love my parents, but how they neglected my sister and them pretending to act "dumb" about it, still makes very angry and I won't back them up if this topic ever comes up at a family gathering.

[@JudelovesRiver12]

I posted my daughters Halloween clothes from last year online to sell just kind of out of habit and then realized she still fits in it so I took it down. Last year she was a bit overweight from quarantine, and in the past year she has been super active, playing outside nonstop with friends, and I’ve been more aware of what we’re all eating. Now she’s at a healthy weight for her age and height and I didn’t have to restrict her or make her aware that she was on the heavier side. She’s just happy she can still wear her favorite clothes for even longer lol

[@loissage3630]

When I weighed 300 lbs. I was always asked if I was diabetic by any healthcare workers. Nurses, doctors, therapists. Etc. Since I have been maintaining a 140 lb weight loss, I have not been asked. I have never had a high blood sugar reading.

[@seza_]

congrats dude losing 140lb is maddd!!

[@itsgonnabeanaurfromme]

As an actual doctor, on any consultation and doctor visit, all chronic diseases including diabetes and hypertension MUST be asked. Those healthcare workers are vastly uneducated if they don't ask just because someone is skinny.

[@TipTheScales27]

Did you have any outward signs of diabetes like darkened knuckles and neck? I’d be asking and testing you if I saw that

[@megsley]

@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme thank you! I'm skinny and get asked about my BP but that's because I have a family history!

[@loissage3630]

@@TipTheScales27 No, I never had any outward signs of diabetes.

[@kr3532]

Miss you saying "Guys Gals and Non-Binary Pals!" like here. Such a classic John catch phrase and so inclusive.

[@pandzia7585]

In the beginning, about eating disorders in kids. I just wanted to point out that binge eating is ALSO an eating disorder, so it can be included in that statistics...

[@tesselliott8090]

I will say, to their point on division of responsibility -- I have raised my kiddo basically the way she describes, where she gets her dessert with her meals, and she actually DOES choose peas over sweets. The other day I offered her cereal or eggs for breakfast, and she kindly asked for peas instead. So. . . it sounds like a crazy example but it's a real thing. LOL.

[@tesselliott8090]

I will say though, they are. . . frustrating in their tone. So condescending and just enraging. There are points that I agree with (like John, of course), but the delivery is so infuriating that I want to scream.

[@yannikarina8096]

I agree, I like vegetables as a kid, but I'm actually not used to snack/dessert so I have no craving about them. If I have chances tho, I definitely will choose dessert/chips anything else that I rarely eat. Usually regret it tho, as the taste is overwhelming for me. I don't even like Oreo and people usually think I'm crazy.

[@nikkifoster9943]

@@yannikarina8096 I love raw veggies now as an adult in my youth I didn't have access to food so as an adult I was finally exposed to so many raw veggies that ended up enjoying over junk food so not heading for the junk food is easy. Oreos are too sweet for me so I don't think your nuts at all a few is fine but I can't eat much more or I feel a bit overwhelmed palate wise. As for junk food I get it once in a while as a treat for my daughter but I generally don't keep stuff like that in the house as it gets out of hand for my significant other (who has issues with binge eating junk food and sugar.) And my 4 year old who also will fixate on it till it's gone...

[@nikkifoster9943]

I will say my major weakness is sugary drinks and caffeine but I'm working on cutting those off and have made it almost a month!

[@TipTheScales27]

I LOVE peas too! I could eat them everyday and never get bored of them. I feel so sad for people that don’t realize how sweet some veggies taste and how savory others taste

[@realdragon]

Forget being healthy, I would _feel_ miserable if I were fat. I'm not the fittest guy but I love the freedom and movement, it feels good to be able to pull yourself up, it feels good to run 100m and be fine after taking few breathes and if I were fat I would no longer have that freedom

[@3brosinwinter781]

Its like these activists think the only EDs are restrictive ones. Pica, which alot of young kids have, is lively included in the stats shes is quoting

[@EricaJoy005]

So she can’t say the “o word” but can say fat?

[@Tera_totally]

That always seemed odd to me too, I don't know why people say they can "reclaim" the word fat, but they can't say obese.

[@DeadLkeMe]

Same community that also refers to normal BMI weighing people as "non-fats" but gets mad if said person refers to themselves as such. Essentially, if you don't 100% agree with them, the "rules" will adjust accordingly in their favor to establish why you're wrong, fatphobic, etc..etc...etc.......

[@Tera_totally]

@@DeadLkeMe right? And they got mad at the term "midsize" for awhile which sucks because I think it could have been a good term to use. So idk what people are supposed to call themselves anymore.

[@Blackandwhitecat-u9v]

I bet she wastes NO time calling people skinny or thin!

[@AllieGtheFNP]

I agree with you, there are some good points and some not so great advice 😬 I’m a mom and a medical provider (APRN)- I’m also overweight with a history of disordered eating, so I get what the struggle is like! We do recommend the “you provide they decide” part of eating, and you decide what when and where and they decide if and how much. But then there is the responsibility of being a parent too. Because you shouldn’t let your child binge on cookies because they taste good, that isn’t a great decision. There is some thought behind food neutrality that offering a small amount of a sweet with a meal every now and again, and not making it a reward, can take away the draw and the power of it. I have offered my child a small cookie, or mini cupcake on the same plate along with a protein and a veggie and complex carb- and that boy will always eat his asparagus or broccoli along with the cupcake! And often leaves some behind. Because he knows he will have it again. It’s simply not a big deal! And the whole fat doesn’t cause T2DM is cringey. Adipose tissue aka fat cells literally produce hormones that make you insulin resistant which can lead to type 2 diabetes. So while no it is not a direct cause there certainly is correlation! Love your content, love your messages. Keep up the good work 😊

[@omnipotentfaces1514]

I grew up as a chubby kid and then an overweight/fat teen and young adult like 18-22ish, lost an amount in the last 2 years. I remember beginning to feel fat and gross at like 7 not fitting into the kids tops at monsoon or needing a bra earlier. Nobody said anything to me but I still felt insecure and unable to keep up with some stuff. It’s an awful feeling, my family were loving but still it’s not about just accept it. It’s about allowing your kids to have full access to life and not feeling bad about themselves! For a long time I felt that this is just how my body is meant to be, I’m meant to be fat and miss out, I can’t change and this is how it is, why bother even trying bc nothing will ever change. We need to dismantle THOSE thoughts through positive and kind exercise, science and food education at school and home. Also therapy, normalise therapyyy. It’s been so hard learning all by myself and I’ve taken a bunch of wrong steps by accident but it’s so worth it! I think we need a MIX of body positivity + body neutrality teaching for kids.

[@thisthatchatwithsierra4137]

This woman is so delusional…we want kids to have healthy habits early on which will transfer into adulthood.

[@rabiaarslan8484]

Some people grow tall, some wide, some tumors, it's all just growing and perfectly healthy

[@ninar7040]

underrated comment 😂

[@rebeccacaulberg216]

I have a friend who's 7 y/o niece looks incredibly obese. The whole family believes firmly that shes healthy even though her baby teeth are rotting out of her skull. What infuriates me the most is CPS and teachers doesnt think shits wrong with any of it.

[@rachaelsimms6848]

As a parent her advice is hilariously awful. Imagine letting your kid eat 30 cookies for dinner and thinking you were doing a good thing 🤣

[@leeannorozco1041]

If you can’t eat your way to diabetes why does diabetes go away when you lose weight? She is ridiculous.

[@koyotestudios4182]

Type 1 Diabetes = Genetic and develops early in life. Also known as Juvenile diabetes because it happens mainly in children Type 2 Diabetes = Mainly caused by life style and develops over time. AKA you eat yourself into it. You may be predisposed to it but it's not genetic like Type 1 She's right about Type 1 being genetic but she's misconstruing it as Type 2. Sources: College paper I did on diabetes and my physicians assistant dad and nurse uncle (who specialized in teaching people with diabetes to live better).

[@Aceofwolves]

Yep. She loves to clump things together to make her argument look better. She included all types of ED for her stats despite the disorders being EXTREMELY different.

[@LifeAfterLosing]

This is mind boggling and I’m so thankful that my parents loved me as I was, but also wanted m to lose weight. Because they loved me.

[@berdieermando9255]

Your point around 14:30 resonated with me so much because a smaller person could have anxiety if being pressured to be "fatter" or less concernedfor their size; for instance if the family females are also heavier in weight/BMI and content with the repercussions (personally familiar).

[@brandym3926]

I'm so frustrated that she was right in the FIRST half with serving dinner with dessert (shouldn't be every night, but occasional) and absolutely fell flat when she followed it up with "keep giving them more til they are done." 😵‍💫

[@agrims101]

Surely even her followers that have kids will hear this and be like not a chance.

[@clared5812]

Your faith in humanity is sweet, but misplaced

[@riverdaisy4215]

I don’t have kids but I’ve worked a lot with kids and have many younger family members. Even I know there’s not a chance in the world that they’d choose a well rounded meal over cookies. You give them those things together and they’ll eat the cookies first. Then you GIVE THEM MORE COOKIES? And expect them not to chow down on those cookies instead of eating dinner? Not a chance. They’ll get a tummy ache and still choose cookies next dinner. Kids aren’t dumb but they still need to be served well rounded meals and snacks by their caregivers.

[@moonscesssss]

Chopping down a registered dietitian to a “thin white woman” is INSANE.

[@dlsjr123]

By a fellow white woman, nonetheless

[@acatnamedm4529]

She's confusing Type 1 Diabetes (autoimmune) with Type 2 Diabetes (metabolic). I think some of the older literature uses 'type 1' and 'childhood' diabetes interchangeability since type 2 was not commonly seen in kids. Type 2 is definitely effected by high cholesterol & triglycerides, high blood sugar, & excess belly fat. Yes, kids take a lot of energy to grow a body, but food habits start young.

[@middleofnowhere1313]

Clearly this woman knows more than people who have earned an M.D. And looks to be very educated about nutrition as well. NOT

[@Monochromeist]

While I understand how it can be annoying for parents to receive education lessons from childless people, it's a good thing to remember that while we're not all parents, we were all children at some point. Not having children should not prevent me from saying some things my own parents (or some things I see other parents do) did to me were harmful and shouldn't be done to other children. Parents are people and sometimes people are wrong, and it's ok for other people, even childless people, to point that out. That being said, this lady speaks a lot of nonsense. On another topic, the editing on this video is nice!

[@MandyH1972]

I don't know how to break it to them but if you're obese then you already have disordered eating.

[@riverdaisy4215]

If my kid grew 17 feet in a single summer (like 2-3 months) I’d absolutely bring them to the doctors that shit ain’t normal

[@mmmmmmmmaria]

if your kid grew 17 feet you’d have to bring in bigger guns than regular old doctors….

[@gertrude137]

At 17 feet your kid would have to crawl to get around the house! Lol!

[@SelfAbridged]

I'm an obese mom with a 4 year old son. I'm VERY sensitive to maintaining my son's relationship with food while I still have some level of control, because mine was broken for so long. And it's like... this woman is obviously only seeing half the picture. Yes, we want to teach our kids to eat intuitively. But her idea of how to implement it is all warped, maybe because her relationship with food - dinner being boring/yucky and dessert being amazing/magical - is broken from the start. This is actually the one thing about parenting I DON'T have mom guilt about. We don't even talk about weight, we don't demonize any food, we just try to teach nutrition knowledge. The chicken on your plate has protein that makes you strong, the yummy roasted broccoli has vitamins that keep you from getting sick, the pasta has carbs you need for fast energy, and chocolate is just for fun so that's why we only have it after we've eaten enough of the stuff that helps our bodies the most. We give him as much nutritious food as he's hungry for, and we NEVER make him clean his plate. With one exception: if my son doesn't eat more than a bite of his dinner because he knows we have something good for dessert and he just wants that? Haha no. "Oh honey, if you're eating that little, your tummy's too full for an after-meal treat. We'll save it for next time." If he says he's hungry at bedtime? I offer milk - because it's boring, and will help him sleep if he's actually hungry. You know what this woman should be ranting about? Peppa Pig and the fat-shamed dad. UGH.

[@reelestaterosie]

Love the new editing style!

[@Bakerygo]

I hate the expression "living in a body". Your body is you yourself and your mind is also part of your body. You are not a separate entity from your body. If your body stops living so do you. It's not like clothes.

[@caitlinhall1903]

I know I'm super late for this video, but as someone who did grow "tall and not wide" at an extreme rate, it is definitely a health concern and has messed up my muscular development forever. Any kind of unusual growth in kids needs to be taken seriously by parents because THE KIDS DONT KNOW ANY BETTER

[@kelseyf2619]

I’m 7 minutes in and frustrated. I am 26 years old, obese, and just got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes last month. While it does run in my family, 100% I developed diabetes so early because of my lifestyle choices. I’m working really hard to lose weight and reverse it. It is insane to hear people say obesity does not cause diabetes.

[@Blackandwhitecat-u9v]

You got this! You can do it. Small, sustainable changes.

[@kelseyf2619]

@@Blackandwhitecat-u9v thank you! Ive lost weight before but i did it in an unsustainable way. I feel good about it now and am in a much more positive mindset. I know that i’ve got it this time :)

[@tell-me-a-story-]

“Thin white person.” -Brings up race, like she isn’t the whitest woman known to humanity. If she had anything in her ancestry other than English, Scottish, and French, I’d be surprised.

[@Brooklyntrash]

That’s so common with fat activists. The majority are white women, yet they seem to think that because they’re fat, they’re not white, or at least don’t have “white privilege.” To me, this woman appears to be both very white and very privileged.

[@vainpiers]

Idk what went wrong with my eating habits, I think my parents realised I was food motivated to do things and made food too much of a reward. When I'm having a hard day my brain goes "I need to reward myself with food for getting through the day" and then using food as a way to cheer myself up. Its hard to have a healthy relationship with food these days when unhealthy food is so accessible. I really had to force myself to stop snacking and gaming, or snacking and watching KZbin, or if I do I only allow myself 2 of the recommended portions a day so I have to choose when to have it (fruit is whatever whenever). I have to separate my snacks into portion sizes before eating otherwise I'll eat the entire packet and I find it easier to control myself if I get chocolate buttons instead of bars. I managed to dramatically decrease the amount of sugar I have in my coffee/tea/hot chocolate over the last year. I go by waist measurement as I find weighing myself stressful and my weight fluctuates a lot more than my waist size, and I'm on the larger side of healthy. Last year I was just over the overweight line.

[@loiracitr]

Children that age learn how to behave by observing their parents, it's really hard for them to have healthy lifestyle if their parents eat junk food all day long

[@emmanarotzky6565]

Apparently I live in a world that doesn’t exist? Lmao. When I was a kid I picked “real food” over cookies all the time because I wasn’t craving sugar at that moment. People have different cravings at different times. If you just ate a lot of dessert, you will crave umami flavors (or fresh flavors like fruit) and the thought of more sugar will make you sick. My paren never hid the sugar, and yes sometimes kid me ate too much of it, just like adult me. But I wasn’t always craving sugar. Most of the time when I got hungry I was craving umami or ‘fresh’ flavors. There were plenty of times when I wanted to eat vegetables despite cookies or some other sweet being right in front of me, because that’s how biology works. The only difference is that the cravings for real food are actually indicating which nutrients you need, while the cravings for cookies or super salty snacks are just indicating that the companies figured out what to put in their products to make them addictive. But even with cookies and chips right in front of you, you’re still going to have cravings for real food because you will get sick of those junk foods even if they are addictive and even if you are a kid.

[@emmanarotzky6565]

But there is also a cultural aspect to it. Lots of people genuinely think that kids are supposed to eat junk food. Go to any restaurant and look at the “kids menu” and it’s all junk food! Pizza, mac&cheese, burgers, chicken strips, no veggies in sight. When I was a kid I always ordered off the adult menu and took home the leftovers, partly because I thought it was extremely insulting for the restaurant to say “oh, you’re a kid? You must only like junk food then, Here, have a burger, you dumb fast food kid! Lol!”. But also because those things just didn’t sound appetizing to me compared to the rest of the menu. I would order those things at a fast food place because there wasn’t anything better, and yes sometimes you do just crave some junk food/fast food, but why are we associating it with kids to such an extent that every restaurant thinks that a kids menu should consist of nothing but junk food? A kids menu should be smaller portions of the normal food with more a-la-carte options and lighter seasonings and kid-friendly presentation (each vegetable served separately instead of mixed together by default, sauce on the side, etc.) That’s how kids eat when their parents cook at home, why should a restaurant be so different? Even picky kids will find something to eat with that sort of menu.

[@xsm5525]

she makes me ashamed to be from the same country as her.

[@Andrew_O]

I know a lot of kids (and former kids) who would never eat anything other than chicken nuggets, hamburgers, hotdogs etc even at family meals when none of those are being served and their parents would just cave. Kids will SCREAM insisting that you give them nothing but processed food and parents stopped being parents and their nutrition goes into the dumpster. Let your kids run amok and they WILL do stupid stuff constantly. Then we end up with FA's who scream "ED!" at the prospect of any measure of self-control meanwhile they ravenously chase after the next dopamine hit.

[@Andrew_O]

22:15 - "Just happens to be a fat child that turns into a fat adult and that's fine too. That's no problem whatsoever". Not for their health statistically...

[@kasiavu4629]

My daughter has learned to have real food; That'll nourish you and make you healthy before you can have the sweets in moderation because too much is unhealthy and will make you feel yucky. She's not worried about" getting fat" she wants to feel in ,her words, good and have energy and grow big and strong.

[@ac-ui6gr]

“Thin white woman” as if that thin woman couldn’t POSSIBLY have been fat/larger as a kid and decided to become a part of the SOLUTION?! Why are dietitian and nutritionists looked down upon when they literally are a part of the solution in our system? I was fat as a kid and was bullied, I wanted to be an athlete and I was too heavy! I become a runner, powerlifter and now am working to become a bodybuilder. I’ve LOVED nutrition and would help so many people if I decided to go to school. These fat-acceptance people are absolutely wack.

[@Andrew_O]

9:15 "Other things that might affect it (diabetes) in regards to marginalization, oppression, race, things like that". No. Those are not causes for diabetes. Diabetes is not caused by your feelings. FF cites nothing of value to support her claims. The word "preponderance" with regards to the data we have on T2D and other outcomes associated with obesity isn't something you get to dodge. The raw numbers are overwhelming. The ancient Greeks knew about this. Earlier FF tried to assert that "society" said that obesity leads to negative outcomes. No, not "society", the term we should be using for the source of that conclusion would be the "mountains of data we've collected". Obesity isn't a social construct. leave your feelings at the door and stop trying to compare a physical condition to a psychological one. The comparison alone is a fallacy. The assumption that any attempt to take control of ones life will almost certainly lead to an ED is a slippery slope fallacy of it's own.

[@Jhfisibejoso8pkabrvo2is8]

Actually, marginalization, oppression, race, ethnicity, and culture actually *do* contribute to disparities in type 2 diabetes prevalence. This is a well documented fact, and is part of social determinants of health and the ecological framework of health behavior. That doesn't mean that those factors are primary causes of T2D- because they're not. But they do significantly increase your chance of developing T2D. This is because health behaviors, especially eating behaviors, do not exist in a vacuum. Your behaviors are constantly influenced by external factors in your life, one of the main ones being socioeconomic background. And marginalized or oppressed groups are more likely to be part of a lower socioeconomic class. Thus, these groups are more likely to reside in "food deserts" or more likely to allocate funds to other necessities such as rent or bills rather than spending extra money on quality food sources. As such, many of these people eat exclusively junk foods which contributes to obesity and T2D incidence. Also, diabetes absolutely can be "caused by your feelings," if the feelings in question lead to use of food as a coping mechanism. If you eat your feelings, you're obviously going to be more likely to develop obesity and T2D.

[@Andrew_O]

@@Jhfisibejoso8pkabrvo2is8 100 things you can feel bad about aren't 100 things that contribute to weight gain. It's 1 thing: eating your feelings. In the end it's not the feelings, it's the eating and using that outlet gets you that result. Maybe those who choose that outlet need help with those other issues, but the physical outcome is pretty basic and all down to 1 actual factor: food consumed.

[@omnipotentfaces1514]

Or just don’t have dessert or have fruit for dessert? Also eat the exact same meal as your kid, it’s a weird British thing we’re parents here give their kids like cheese pasta and then eat a proper balanced meal themselves! My parents are Indian and Greek Canadian, and I ate on their lap from their plate then always the same meal and I never had this aversion to veg so many people do

[@fernandavergara1067]

I´m obese, I was the fat kid. I lost some weight when I was in my 20s. My husband (boyfriend at that time) found out a cancer, I was in my masters programm, I gained over 35kg. Now I´m 30yo, obese type 2, fortunately no other disease that comes with obesity, but fighting to lose the weight (almost obese 1, I´m losing weight, and the goal is to be in the proper BMI for me) and I have the goal of changing foverer, because even though I dont have another commorbity disease now I can develop them in the future if I dont change. I want to get pregnant next year and I refuse to be a high risk pregnant because of my weight. I also refuse to raise a child with an obese mother once I, myself, know how fucking hard is to change your habits and become health, I want to raise a child with good health habits and respecting people. This fat positivity moviment has gone far. They change the "It is ok that you´re fat, it won´t change how you are, we all deserve to be treated nicely" for "It is ok to be fat". It is not ok to be fat and it is not ok blaming and cursing the fat people. I hate the fatphobic people as the fat ativists that deny the problem. (sorry about english mistakes, it is not my native language)

[@willowwinkle]

I love you said "goal of changing forever" because what helped me stay healthy and unlearn bad patterns was deciding on habits/foods/exercise that I could keep doing forever as a way of life. It actually made it easier and more fun to think of health as something you do to grow/improve constantly all through the changes of life. Much better than the way I learned growing up which was that health was a bunch of temporary actions (like diets and diet fads) to fix something broken.

[@carolynj6144]

It’s so irritating to me that people don’t understand that registered dietitians go through sooooo much school/training. They get placed on the same level as nutritionists a lot, but they are not the same

[@Aceofwolves]

Off topic but i LOVE the new editing style... PLEASE continute this way of video making. Its hilarious 😂

[@dabieyo]

I'm still 5 minutes in, but I just wanted to share that ironically I believe that any fat activist who cares to point out that somebody they disagree with is a "thin white woman" is indeed the most racist of them all. To me the mere idea that thin black women (or even fat black women at that) would 100% buy into the fat positivity rhetoric is disgusting. You claim to be giving voice to "marginalised bodies" (if I were a black woman I'd drop kick anyone who called me a marginalised body, but that's just me), but at the same time you believe that all black women out there are a one minded monolith with no nuance whatever. Congrats Janet, you played yourself.

[@momos_gone_mad]

As a black woman myself and an ex-fat...this infuriates me. Poc tend to be bigger because of poor diet options imbedded in our culture..alot stems from oppression starting from american slavery. Its absolutly ridiculous because i feel like theyre just using us as a shield and a tool for their excuses...period.

[@desiree7633]

So true 😂

[@dr.drishti]

Children with diabetes mostly have type 1 Diabetes. They are usually thin patients. Type 2 diabetes takes years and years to develop. A lifetime of poor eating and exercising habits can lead to Type 2 diabetes mostly when they have crossed the age of 40.

[@barbaracurtis3801]

You can too eat your way into diabetes. I did. I reversed my diabetes by losing weight.

[@cunawarit]

When you said "not everyone is going to be fine" this is the absolute truth! My BMI is right at 21-22 normally, I've never been obese, but if I gain weight and my BMI goes to 25 my knees hurt, my back hurts and I have no energy whatsoever. I'm just not compatible with weight gain.

[@cindyharris5442]

I won’t be taking parenting or health advice from someone who is not a parent and is obese.

[@youfoundwaldo77]

Did she really compare obesity to growing in height. Like if your kid is getting wider and not taller dont you think you should check to make sure they are get the appropriate amount of nutrients in their foods?

[@chloer2996]

OK so my sister actually "tricked" her kids into wanting tomatoes (tricked in quotes because tomatoes are pretty sweet for a vegetable) by talking about them like they are sweets. They would get so excited being allowed some. HOWEVER they didn't eat actual sweets and chocolates in the house etc so it's not like they where choosing between cookies and tomatoes but just making a point that the psychology of things being behind the "No" wall definitely works 🤣 So funny once they got old enough to realize they aren't special, lost all interest haha.

[@beanskelly6508]

My dad has type 2 diabetes and more than once the topic of myself and my siblings diet and concerns of our predisposition has come up about it.

[@xXNiamhBryans]

I think the best thing to do is encourage a fun and active lifestyle from an early age. Making it fun to go outside, they associate fun with healthy habits. Even if they are chubby as children they will grow to hopefully have a better view of It being fun to be active. It's like the saying if you love your job you will never have to work a day in your life. If you love being active it won't feel like effort.

[@PrinceSarah1]

Isn't this the woman who made someone bigger than her cry on a BBC documentary because she had SUCH a bad attitude?

[@NatalieAnn88]

In England lied in bed now watching you with my daughter and totally agree with you. I try to feed my kids as much as a balanced diet as I can. I'm five stone lighter and kept it off for years now ☺️

[@ttrev007]

when i was a kid i could eat as much as i wanted, but i only had access to healthy foods. My mom never said anything about weight. It was all about being healthy and giving your body the nutrients it needs.

[@jessiexxreel5688]

So my mom did actually trick us into eating vegetables. She would eat the vegetables first on her plate and make a big deal about them like “wow! Those are so good! That’s my favorite! I’m gonna get more. Aren’t those so good?!” And not forcing us to eat them but she also didn’t have to because we genuinely liked them. And I’m vegetarian now so that might have some play in it as well. That being said, if you put a carrot or a cookie in front of me I can’t say at 6 years old I would choose the carrot. I would eat all the carrots on my plate no problem cause I liked them and they were there. But put them next to a cookie? No shot. Even the fiber cookies we use to be given daily 😂 it wasn’t shunned for us to eat them it wasn’t bad for us but I would still choose it over a carrot. Psych can matter in ways but not to the extreme of letting a kid choose what they want to eat whether it’s a meal or straight sugar. A kids gonna choose the sugar

[@docouchi7929]

Not genetics, this goes back to the old wives tale of people being big bone … genetics might imply different metabolism, HOWEVER it is NOT GENETIC being OBESE, it’s over eating, diet choices, and lack of activity… you are not born obese; and if you put yourself in a good regimen then, you will lose adipose tisssue… it’s not osteodystrophy, it is not a pediatric tumor, it is not in any shape or form a chromosomal abnormality, let’s take Prader Willi a chromosomal paternal imprinting abnormality at chromosome 15, where they are born with low amount of lepton and perception in the hypothalamus , and they have the tendency of lack of satiation, and over eat causing obesity … the lack of perception of calorie deficiency is abnormal, however if giving them normal amounts of food, and normal amount of activity, they do not get obese… it is NOT a congenital dyslipidemia, where they are born with irregular lipid metabolism….