Fat Admirers | The Disturbing History Of Fat Acceptance

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ObesetoBeast

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@maggienewton8518
@maggienewton8518 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe a few feeders really are attracted to obese people but the hard core ones...from the studies I've read, it's more about control and power. Some feeders who were interviewed admitted they fantasize about S&M. The film clip of feeding a woman through a funnel is dehumanizing. The feeder dehumanizes the feedee and what power! "Look how I can not only change this person's physical shape, I can make them totally dependent and crush their self-esteem." There's nothing ok about feederism. It's abuse.
@Laura-gd4ku
@Laura-gd4ku 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly it’s always the power, control and dependence that turns them on.
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
It is abuse
@lrakretor3426
@lrakretor3426 Жыл бұрын
You've 'read' about it huh? I will not deny that some feeders are abusive. But don't forget that alot of people are simply fat admirers. Many people really just have a kink for fat people! Also not all feeders want their partner to be unhealthy. Many will get turned on by the thought of weight gain, but are afraid of the health issues which could arise. So, don't think all feeders are the same.
@maggienewton8518
@maggienewton8518 Жыл бұрын
@@lrakretor3426 my first words in my post are "maybe a few feeders really are attracted to obese people..." So I said from the outset I don't assume all feeders are the same. And why "read" in quotes? What's wrong with reading peer reviewed articles? They are based on more than someone's opinion.
@artistically_pain3876
@artistically_pain3876 Жыл бұрын
@@maggienewton8518Overweight is fine but to want your partner to be obese…
@cautiousgalaxy4613
@cautiousgalaxy4613 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I didn't find this movement before I started losing weight. I was well on my way to 400 pounds if I hadn't actually hit it. At my highest recorded I was 390. I'm now down to 340 and it's been in a sustainable way.
@666blaziken
@666blaziken 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Keep up the good work! Weight loss isn't easy, but it's definitely worth it. You'll be in less pain, and feel more confident as you lose more of it, so even if you have hiccups here and there, keep up the consistency.
@x-fatboylifestyle589
@x-fatboylifestyle589 2 жыл бұрын
Keep hitting your goals. Everyone loves a success story. 💪💪💪
@schneeroseful
@schneeroseful 2 жыл бұрын
Same. My highest was 312 and although I thought I should be accepted in everyday life I tried to not take up space and dress pleasingly. Still was kind of toxic because of the few idiots who thought it was ok to bully me just out of the blue. Do continue, I know it can get frustrating at some time and then just remember yourself how much better you feel.
@SationalCyn
@SationalCyn 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your progress and I hope you are able to reach your goal whatever that may be! I hit my highest of 320 in January and am down to 280. All I have done is cut down on fast food and soda.
@ObesetoBeast
@ObesetoBeast 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the weight loss!!!!!
@RobinOrzo
@RobinOrzo 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who spent years in the BBW community as a impressionable young person (age 19 to mid 20’s) I feel like I have insight into this for days. The stories I could tell y’all would not believe. It shaped me into the person I am- no pun intended. I dated men who fetishized the shit out of me and my fat body, wanted me to gain weight even though I was already 300+ pounds and it really fucked with my head. I’m so glad I distanced myself from that community and began a weight loss journey. I would love to speak on my experience. If you ever want to hear my story I’d love to talk to you John!
@absolutelyridiculous6743
@absolutelyridiculous6743 2 жыл бұрын
We would love to hear your story and thoughts!
@Liz-wz8dh
@Liz-wz8dh 2 жыл бұрын
That is crazy. I hope John takes you up on your offer. That sounds fascinating.
@sandpiperr
@sandpiperr 2 жыл бұрын
I hope he does. I'd love for him to interview you!
@emilywilkins2814
@emilywilkins2814 2 жыл бұрын
You should do your own video! Start your channel and talk about your experiences, I’d watch the hell out of it
@RobinOrzo
@RobinOrzo 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I didn’t expect to get any sort of replies on this! Def thinking about making some videos on the subject now!
@juliajs1752
@juliajs1752 2 жыл бұрын
I have sympathy for a lot of fetishes, but feederism is right up there with mutilation and breaking your gf's spine to make sure "she'll always need you". A woman without money can still run away when she's had enough. A bedbound woman might not even be able to call the police if she can't reach the phone...
@RealElongatedMuskrat
@RealElongatedMuskrat 2 жыл бұрын
that's a good point, it's not all that different from shackling someone.
@Gaia_Seraphina
@Gaia_Seraphina 2 жыл бұрын
There was even a horror story about a man amputating a woman's limbs to keep her at his side. It didn't help that she actually identified as a disabled person ( while still being perfectly healthy ). It's sick!
@Toobroke4gold
@Toobroke4gold 2 жыл бұрын
I may not know exactly what feederism is, but comparing it to mutilation just seems so wrong. I'm almost certain people would rather be forced fed then have there body mutilated or their spine broken. I didn't even know those two things were fetishes but damn.
@Gaia_Seraphina
@Gaia_Seraphina 2 жыл бұрын
@@Toobroke4gold Meanwhile over-feeding pets and lifestock until they're super-obese is considered animal abuse and frowned upon. Feederism is legal slow killing with a willing victim. Crazy shit! Ever seen the movie *Seven* ( a thriller with Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman from 1995 )?
@Toobroke4gold
@Toobroke4gold 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gaia_Seraphina I don't believe I have. But will check it out. And your comment about over feeding animals is very interesting because people don't consider overfeeding children until they are obese child abuse. I wonder why... and I know you're saying it's legal slow killing, but people do that to themselves as well with food. It seems super complicated and complex. I'm just saying it doesn't seem right to compare it to mutilation.
@-cMc-
@-cMc- 2 жыл бұрын
The movement started on very selfish reasons...its not even about the woman or the hardships the women went through. It's only about the men being able to be accepted for liking fatter woman.
@Gaia_Seraphina
@Gaia_Seraphina 2 жыл бұрын
And yet some activists think FA has been started by black obese women, who wanted body positivity ... while in fact it was due to white thin men, who wanted to protect their fetish!😅
@herefortheshrimp1469
@herefortheshrimp1469 Жыл бұрын
“I’m not gay but I totally relate to them” 🙄 screw that old man . My God
@allisonfick7748
@allisonfick7748 2 жыл бұрын
Feederism is never okay in any context. It's abuse, point blank. They want the women so big, they become dependent on them. You're wrong to say, well sometimes it's okay. No. It's not about sex, or love, it's about control.
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not okay that’s weird and abuse
@mlordg1967
@mlordg1967 2 жыл бұрын
I met a chubby chaser once, when I was still 245 lbs. He told me that he wanted me to gain 100 more lbs, and that he would help me with that. It weirded me out then, and this sort of thing weirds me out now. Btw I love your content. Your compassion, honesty, and empathy has helped me change the way I look at weight loss and food in general.
@julietmckaig3236
@julietmckaig3236 2 жыл бұрын
Dude that's so creepy. Why does anyone comment on anyone's body. Shouldn't happen unless someone asks for an opinion 🤦🏽‍♀️
@f_u_love8424
@f_u_love8424 2 жыл бұрын
That’s so weird I’ve never heard of ppl asking to gain weight (Ik it happens I just never met anyone who had that experience). But I’ve heard my fair share of stories about guys telling girls to lose weight if they want to date so they could be more attractive. Either way weather it’s telling ppl to gain or lose weight it’s so creepy.
@SationalCyn
@SationalCyn 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone that wants to put you closer to death, and not help you be better or healthier..... kick their ass to the curb.
@mlordg1967
@mlordg1967 2 жыл бұрын
@@f_u_love8424 I couldn’t agree more. It’s demeaning and uncomfortable.
@ObesetoBeast
@ObesetoBeast 2 жыл бұрын
I am glad you are in a better place now!! thank you so much!
@90geekgirl06
@90geekgirl06 2 жыл бұрын
So the whole movement about empowering big people and helping people feel confident and comfortable in their own skin got started bc a bunch of horny dudes. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
@susanhopemason
@susanhopemason 2 жыл бұрын
Even if I weighed 5 or 6 hundred pounds, I would never date any man who was interested in me BECAUSE of my weight. I want no part of that. It would be a different story if a man liked or loved me IN SPITE OF, my weight, because that would mean that he was interested in the person I am on the inside, and would still love me if I lost weight. I am probably about 80 pounds overweight now. I have been both fat and thin, and thin is a million times better. Thin doesn't just look better, it also FEELS better, in a number of ways. Anyone who has been both, knows that thin feels way better.
@goldenoreo6699
@goldenoreo6699 2 жыл бұрын
Ooooo cringe! As a gay man who’s had to deal with intense homophobia I really cringed at those NAAFA men saying they were closeted and could understand the LGBTQIA+ experience due to liking fat women…Ya it sucks to be made fun of for who you like, buuuuut I highly doubt that they had to risk imprisonment, violence, loss of friends, family, banishment from organizations, humiliating outings, sexual violence, or death.
@teaganisokey8190
@teaganisokey8190 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I remember being beat up, thrown in fountains while cops watched, having no one want to sit next to me on the bus because they might catch "the gay". Doubt this dude ever had more than a bit of teasing.
@realemmcee
@realemmcee 2 жыл бұрын
As an ace person I get that there are certain kinks people are into that I don't get and involve roleplaying some pretty uncomfortable shit (to say the least). I'm personally not into kinks but can understand that for some people, things like BDSM and simulated noncon roleplays can be enjoyable. But that's the thing - it's a *roleplay* ... Feederism is real life. There's still a difference between that and having a preference for your partner to become so obese that they are immobile and essentially just an orifice. That's disgusting and if you feel "kink-shamed" by anyone saying that, then yes, you should feel very ashamed.
@breb6603
@breb6603 2 жыл бұрын
As a fellow ace (aroace) person, hard agree. I'll never yuck someone's yum unless it's not Safe Sane and Consensual... this certainly isn't safe, nor arguably sane.
@palapeura375
@palapeura375 2 жыл бұрын
Important video, will go check the original. The fetishization of mentally ill and traumatized women is an issue I (AFAB transmasc) have experienced firsthand so I feel for people who fall victims to BBW fetishists
@babs_babs
@babs_babs 2 жыл бұрын
one the hard things about dating and being in a body that’s outside the norm is finding people who can appreciate you and be attracted to you without being a chaser (whether it’s size, gender/sex, disability, race, etc) i think that’s why a lot of us might prefer dating within our own communities
@palapeura375
@palapeura375 2 жыл бұрын
@@babs_babs indeed. All my best wishes to you!
@jakuth99
@jakuth99 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the fat acceptance movement derives from the fetishization of the people they advocate for is particularly suspect imo because fetishization is more often than not used as a tool/ excuse to dehumanize minority groups (e.g., snow bunnies, trans chasers, those incels that want exclusively Asian women because of the stereotype that Asians are hyperfeminine)
@punkybrewstar83
@punkybrewstar83 2 жыл бұрын
My brother isn't an incel, but yeah, totally wants the stereotypical, docile Asian women. They start out quiet because they don't speak English well, but in the end they are all 100% human females with all of the typical mannerisms and traits, much to my brother's disappointment. He is currently still married to his Thai wife, but they are in the same country for 2 months a year 😂
@Pugetwitch
@Pugetwitch 2 жыл бұрын
Fetishization is not more often than not used to dominate minority groups. One of the most common fetishes is foot fetishes and it has nothing to do with minority groups. Also leather, shoes, certain textures, scents, etc.
@Pugetwitch
@Pugetwitch 2 жыл бұрын
@@punkybrewstar83 dude that's HELLA racist. Who "starts off quiet cause they don't speak English well"? Asian women? SMH you need to take that smug condescending patronizing know-it-all attitude and go explain to somebody else about what you think Asian women are like. You are not explaining a damn thing to us here!
@jakuth99
@jakuth99 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pugetwitch I thought it was obvious that when I talk about fetishization in the context of minority groups, I’m talking about the fetishization *of* minority groups
@themagicknightress7132
@themagicknightress7132 2 жыл бұрын
What’s a snow bunny
@nadyanymph
@nadyanymph 2 жыл бұрын
Woah I really appreciate you sharing this 🖤 So much love for this channel and your story
@geekinthepink33
@geekinthepink33 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your videos from the beginning. I love that you're getting this recognition! Keep being awesome
@aprayingatheist2378
@aprayingatheist2378 2 жыл бұрын
you go girl, I've been following you since the beginning too and this is like the second or third channel I've watched that has covered one of your videos. that's awesome, I love that fast growth
@yuckysmuck
@yuckysmuck 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your channel! It's awesome that you're talking about this stuff and helping to make people aware.
@thejessica-est
@thejessica-est 2 жыл бұрын
I really like Nadya. She makes good points without being judgmental or snarky. She also puts a lot of effort and research into her content. I watched this on her channel when she first posted it and it was mind blowing.
@connectedevolution
@connectedevolution 2 жыл бұрын
Here fairly early still. Currently working on my weightloss. 236 last time I weighed myself. Max of 310, but maintained the 250s for a couple years. Hoping to get to 170.
@JogurtowyPotworek
@JogurtowyPotworek 2 жыл бұрын
Proud of you, stranger! You’ve got it!
@SebastianRodriguez-ki8jn
@SebastianRodriguez-ki8jn 2 жыл бұрын
How tall are you
@JogurtowyPotworek
@JogurtowyPotworek 2 жыл бұрын
@@SebastianRodriguez-ki8jn did you intend to ask me? Because I was the one that received the notification.
@SebastianRodriguez-ki8jn
@SebastianRodriguez-ki8jn 2 жыл бұрын
@@JogurtowyPotworek I'm talking to @VanDogRoadLife
@lnmemoryofjohnmordaunt7386
@lnmemoryofjohnmordaunt7386 2 жыл бұрын
You can't justify this, along with devoteeism and p....philia. When something harms another person it ceases to be a mere kink/fetish and becomes objectification at its worst.
@JessTeacakes
@JessTeacakes 8 ай бұрын
I'm thankful to have come across this video today on my timeline. This is something I'm going to submit to my therapist as I'm working my way through processing my trauma from being groomed at a very young age into this world. My late mother's second husband (my ex-stepfather) is a feeder/fat admirer and introduced me to this world as young as 8 years old. I remember these magazine covers vividly as they were in my actual hands. I ended up working for people directly related to NAAFA/Dimensions as soon as I turned 18 (I am 35) as a web model. I used to get upset at my mother for saying I was involved in a cult. Maybe she wasn't too far off... because here I am, decades later, feeling exteme guilt for wanting to get healthier and also losing the only "communities" I ever knew. There's so much more nuance here that maybe one day I'll feel safe expressing but until then, anyone reading this in a similar situation, you aren't alone. 💗
@dlsjr123
@dlsjr123 9 ай бұрын
I've been involved in the chub/chaser community since my early 20s and currently preparing to lose a lot of friends after weight loss surgery. But the thought of someone feeding me to the point of immobility makes me feel physically ill
@SpookyBibi24
@SpookyBibi24 2 жыл бұрын
It's a little thing but I really appreciate your inclusive "guys, gals, non-binary pals" greeting. It's catchy, sweet and always makes me smile. Happy Pride y'all! 🏳️‍🌈
@treefairy42
@treefairy42 2 жыл бұрын
idk if he got it from this but the first place i heard it was from thomas sanders way back in the day! always loved that little phrase
@ObesetoBeast
@ObesetoBeast 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I didnt make it up though! someone in my discord said it and I liked it lol
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
God made male and female non binary isn’t real
@mangana215
@mangana215 2 жыл бұрын
I think that liking heavier people is completely fine, like someone having preference for blondes,short hair, or blue eyes. The problem with those guys is the equivalent of dying your partner's hair because it's not blond enough and thinking it's ok to do that, and creating health problems to others
@mangana215
@mangana215 2 жыл бұрын
@Reinhard von Lohengramm would that be considered a fetish or a preference? I don't know how to explain it in English. I mean I have a preference for tall people, that doesn't mean that I will switch from one to other the second I see someone tall. It just means that in a crowd of people my eyes will go first to those who fit my usual preference. A fetish I feel would be something you need to do in order for the relationship to work, be it emotionally or sexual, and needs the consent and understanding of all the involved parties. To me, preference would be an internal thing, while a fetish would be expressed externally
@sakitoby1581
@sakitoby1581 2 жыл бұрын
@@mangana215 I think a preference is pretty much as you described, where your eye tends to go initially. I have a preference for tall men. That said, if I met someone wonderful who wasn't tall, his height would not be a stopping point for me; I would regard him as a whole person, all his good qualities. I think a fetish is when you obsess or won't consider the whole person, only preferring the aspect that is fetishized. That's not healthy or good. Nobody wants to be be the focus of a fetish. I certainly don't. Preferences are fine. We all like some flavors more than others, but we must treat people as people, and not just one aspect of their looks or whatever it is. I knew an American guy who ONLY dated Asian women. He didn't care what Asian country, any would do, but he would not date American women. I thought that was weird. Asians are lovely, but why would you limit yourself, thereby possibly missing out on someone terrific? We all have "a type" perhaps but why think inside that box only??
@dlsjr123
@dlsjr123 9 ай бұрын
As a fat guy involved in the chub/chaser community I feel extremely fetishized. It's disgusting.
@Adrianaisjawsome
@Adrianaisjawsome 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s the thing: having a fat body is not healthy but it is not someone’s personality therefore people with fat bodies should not be ostracized. Sometimes being big cannot be easily resolved (health issues,etc.) and being treated as less than doesn’t help. So when I heard about “fat acceptance” I assumed it was about treating people with respect. There’s nothing inherently wrong with being happy with yourself and accepting yourself as you are wether you’re overweight or have a cleft lip or brown eyes or whatever but you shouldn’t be in denial about things like your weight causing you harm. I have a fat body but I am beautiful. I am funny and interesting. That’s what makes me myself. Not the fat on my body. If I lose 100 lbs I’m still going to be funny and creative and eccentric. I know that having the fat on my body has lead to my overall health being not the best. Losing weight will help with my overall health, but it won’t change my self worth. I am worth more than a physical body. That’s what I feel the fat acceptance movement should’ve been about the whole time. Learning to respect yourself and others. Not denying your health. Does that make sense?
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@CAMarg-zs1xq
@CAMarg-zs1xq 7 ай бұрын
This is well said
@BelleMichele99
@BelleMichele99 2 жыл бұрын
hiiii obese to beast i am now hovering around 135 down from 175 and i feel soooo much better. i feel so bad for these people when i think about how insecure and awful i felt with the extra weight, that’s their life times twenty or more. that’s why i can’t believe amberlynn when she says she lives a totally normal life. there’s just no way!
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
Your way too skinny now. I’m 177 and I lost weight I can’t believe you were complaining about 175 pounds to be 175 it means I would of lost 11 pounds in all 175 is not that big complainer
@BelleMichele99
@BelleMichele99 2 жыл бұрын
@@MelB868 uhm 175 on 5’3 after being 130-140 for your whole life is a huge difference. 40 lbs is a huge loss for anyone and i’m done losing weight now. i feel better and look better, i’m not complaining simply reflecting on my feelings at the time lol weirdo
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
@@BelleMichele99 I was 5’3” and 186 I think I’m around 173 now
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
@@BelleMichele99 your biggest was 175 and your complaining is what I’m saying
@BelleMichele99
@BelleMichele99 2 жыл бұрын
@@MelB868 yeah it is after never being over 130 your whole life 40 pounds is huge idgaf what you think anyways it’s not my problem if you can’t control your eating amberlynn
@christinaarundale8583
@christinaarundale8583 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being proud to say that you are a "feeder" like it's not the same thing as proclaiming that you verbally, physically, or sexually abuse your partner
@axolotlsgonewild
@axolotlsgonewild 2 жыл бұрын
When I was younger I had someone who was a "chubby chaser" and wanted me to gain weight. Funny thing was I have never been plus sized.
@babowasalwayshere
@babowasalwayshere 2 жыл бұрын
"it's more healthy to be overweight" feels like a butchered granule of truth. Like it sounds like someone took a more complete statement and butchered it to mislead people. Growing up I was often told, "It's more healthy to be overweight *than underweight."* Meaning not that it's *good* to be overweight, but when compared to being underweight it may be the lesser of two evils. I feel it's more of a piece of advice useful for people who aren't very far from a healthy BMI who struggle with possible body image issues and under eat, as I often did in my youth. When faced with the paranoid intrusive thought "am I eating too much / too often?" it's a piece of advice that helped me silence my own anxiety and get some sorely needed nutrients rather than continually starve myself either intentionally or merely because my autism makes it hard to know why I am literally physically feeling (such as hunger, fullness, the need to pee.. etc). To give a little context/perspective, it wasn't uncommon for me to just randomly forget to eat for 24+ hours straight, so I don't mean like *oh I skipped a meal every once in a while,* this was something that could happen multiple times a week. I'd forget to eat then wonder why my limbs weren't retaining body heat properly and I felt so sleepy, and honestly just chalked it up to bad circulation or something. But generic advice isn't one size fits all and I fully understand, or *believe* rather, that many people *wouldn't* benefit from the advice that may have saved my life from time to time.
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it is more healthy to be overweight than underweight but not morbidly or super morbidly obese. I’m obese but I exercise so I’m active and healthy. I have Aspergers and I can tell when I’m hungry full or have to pee
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
I never forget to eat
@ceciliabernadette8853
@ceciliabernadette8853 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yay, glad you commented on this one, I suggested it in the Discord! I was in the fat acceptance/fat liberation movement for a few years. I didn't get real deep into it like others and wasn't brainwashed about things, but there was still pressure to support things I didn't agree with (although I do agree with things like better medical care and some other accessibility things). There was a lot that bothered me about the fat acceptance/liberation movement, but when I found out that a lot of fat activism was founded in the history covered in this video, I was super put off. As a fat activist, I was expected to support feederism and fat admirers and needless to say I wasn't interested in that (amongst other issues with the movement). And yeah, the founder of NAAFA is still a creep.
@dc100dc100
@dc100dc100 2 жыл бұрын
So, it was created as a fetish club. Wow.
@feliciavictorio1581
@feliciavictorio1581 2 жыл бұрын
Lossing weight for obese is a must, i ve been obese before and i get down about 110lbs and my life is getting better and better in every aspect
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
110 pounds is way too skinny I bet you look sickly gross
@LuxeMindsetVibes
@LuxeMindsetVibes 2 жыл бұрын
The sheer audacity 😤 Ma'am, you can't change being African American (AA) nor would I be interested in being any else but AA. However, unless you have a medical condition, can loss weight. I've done it. Thank you splitting hairs
@artistically_pain3876
@artistically_pain3876 Жыл бұрын
Even with a medical condition you could lose weight, you just need to put in more work than others.
@clara-sophievogel7377
@clara-sophievogel7377 2 жыл бұрын
I am all for body positivity and if you are attracted to bigger people, that is totally up to you. But the men in this organisation and the way they exploit and actively hurt women (by feeding) made me threw up in my mouth a little... 🤢
@cosmicreef5858
@cosmicreef5858 Жыл бұрын
I agree This is why i do not believe in "being attracted to body types" because there is no such thing! You are attracted to a LIFE STYLE. People who you can share your experiences with. People who are healthy as in have a lot of spirit in them and never give up on their life. Thrive to be the best them they can be. THAT is what makes someone attractive! Putting looksfrst will only ruin relationships and objectify a living being aka will harm them.
@mckenna_L_
@mckenna_L_ 2 жыл бұрын
My gay ass is pissed about that comparison from the founder
@briolivia
@briolivia Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you acknowledged the villainous surname😂😂 because i was like...what???
@YueCoolJ
@YueCoolJ 2 жыл бұрын
I am always hit on by Growers/Chubby chasers. I hate it. They are always asking me my weight and seem incredibly turn on by it. Which just makes me for so disgusting.
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
Oh that’s why my boyfriend was asking I thought he was being rude
@Andrew_O
@Andrew_O 2 жыл бұрын
I've followed Nadya's channel for quite some time and she's done a fantastic job on her research and her general insights have proven to be very well thought out and presented while not trying to come from a personally judgmental place (IMO). I would recommend her channel to anyone wanting to better understand the kind of arguments being made by FA/HAES and related groups and individuals, and understand where they fall short via rational counter-arguments to them.
@sadgremlinboi9266
@sadgremlinboi9266 2 жыл бұрын
did that one guy honestly compare the discrimination you get thrown at u for being queer wth liking larger women...????
@MosDaft
@MosDaft 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I have a now 20 year old daughter who is around 450 pounds and a super staunch supporter of the BP and HAES movement. Her father and I divorced when she was 9, and she has been raised around 2 morbidly obese narcissists who believe that it's the world's problem, not theirs, and society's views and norms must change for them. They're perfectly perfect in every way, there's no need to change. You all are the ones with the problem.
@beathinks
@beathinks Жыл бұрын
God, I fucking love how sarcastic you are 😂🙌🏼
@TeamYouphoric
@TeamYouphoric 2 жыл бұрын
0:33 it's currently 2:05pm on a weekday but I have a workout to get to.
@tatemitchell1479
@tatemitchell1479 2 жыл бұрын
Being "fat and proud" isn't for yourself. It couldn't be. These people are making themselves extremely overweight to appeal to the male gaze. They think they have some ownership over it just because it's not a conventional form of attractiveness. When really you're no better than anyone who works out just for looks or who diets just for looks. Except you're probably putting yourself at extreme risk of heart disease and premature death (not unlike any compulsive exerciser or any anorexia patient). The best way to live is healthily because you'll feel better by yourself - without anyone else's approval - and will glow from the inside out.
@livewellwitheds6885
@livewellwitheds6885 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gay and trans and its so weird he is comparing being attracted to fat women to being a closeted lgbt person....
@valeryleluf2884
@valeryleluf2884 2 жыл бұрын
Being honest, I like big girls, but understand that somebody who can't make it up a flight of stairs is unhealthy.
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
I can make it just out of breath at the top stairs are harder but I go on walks a lot not like my friend that has a hard time going up like four steps
@AKbaby89
@AKbaby89 2 жыл бұрын
I'm fat, and I promise, there's no volcano in me. I promise. It's just fat. I promise.
@AKbaby89
@AKbaby89 2 жыл бұрын
@@babs_babs ahh gotcha. I'm not, and I don't do dairy anyways, so that's why I'm missing a volcano.
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
First of all we are curvy not fat you are probably curvy too
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
Awe same
@carolyn5835
@carolyn5835 2 жыл бұрын
You are cracking me up! “If you need to know about women, talk to other men!” 😂😂😂😂 I can’t think, I will go wash something… bye! 😂😂😂
@SheenaRM
@SheenaRM 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah.....fat acceptance is different then body positivity. Body Positivity is supposed to be about EVERYONE being happy in their bodies. Everyone....big, small, able-bodied, disabled, black, white etc...should be able to love themselves and be accepted. Fat acceptance on the other hand is purely about being of a certain size and gaining acceptance of that size from society. It's founded in an exclusionary mindset and doesn't include aspects such as missing limbs, scars etc...
@aureliaglenn2220
@aureliaglenn2220 2 жыл бұрын
What about the role of Susie Orbach's book, Fat is a Feminist Issue? (Which came out on 1978, and got a lot of publicity at the time.)
@questioneverything1776
@questioneverything1776 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not against weight loss but it needs to be done in a way that’s sustainable and restrictive and depriving diets with a bunch of food rules, strict meal plans, and cutting out food groups or certain foods are not sustainable. The problem isn’t weight loss it’s keeping it off in a way that is healthy, that doesn’t create disordered eating or eating disorders, and realizing and learning that it’s ok to eat “fun” foods on occasion in moderation as part of a normal healthy lifestyle as that’s healthy for both the body and mind. Doing anything to extreme is not healthy for neither body nor mind. Using food as the main way to cope and soothe is not healthy but eating food to cope and soothe on occasion is perfectly normal and fine. But one has to learn how to do this and practice as a part of a long-term lifestyle.
@oe9993
@oe9993 2 жыл бұрын
That Dimensions magazine is Playboy for overweight people, it’s an objectification of women, just different women, overweight instead of underweight or very thin.
@The_Magicians_Ace
@The_Magicians_Ace 2 жыл бұрын
It's low-key funny cus I found Nadias Chanel like 3 days ago and binge watched her videos and now this reaction 😂
@cosmicjelly3812
@cosmicjelly3812 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching tons of your vids and you kick ass! Seriously, it’s rad & refreshing, your point of view. Congrats on all of your successes.💯✨
@tarotqueen9118
@tarotqueen9118 2 жыл бұрын
As a recovery addict I've felt the judgment from doctors who always thought I was seeking drugs whenever I came to them with a problem when I told them I was in recovery in the first place so I could avoid getting prescribed addictive drugs now I don't tell doctors anymore because I'm sick of not being taken seriously whenever there is something wrong. I now don't have to deal with that where an over weight person cannot hide the fact they are overweight and it's for sure a nightmare when your already sick you already feel like shit for whatever reason and on top of that you go to the doctor for help and you just get dismissed. Your 100% right that dose suck even though I'm thin I see what my overweight mother has to deal with every single time she gets sick she disentangle want to get help so she suffers and I see her everyday struggles onto of everything else us humans deal with.
@lauraromdeussen864
@lauraromdeussen864 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot be the only misophoniac person out there who had to mute her b/c of the mouth sounds, BUT what she had to say was really interesting (yay closed captioning). Feederism is right up there with control and abuse...it's horrifying.
@hhlentz
@hhlentz 2 жыл бұрын
“He’s related to Doofenschmirtz. I’m sure of it.” 😂
@carolyn5835
@carolyn5835 2 жыл бұрын
I am 100% about human beings being comfortable with who they are. However, so many things can bend our view of our internal worth. I once had a doctor tell me that at 5’5 and 130lbs I was obese. 😳 This led me to stop eating, I lost SO much muscle and I dropped to 118lbs and was SUPER unhealthy. 😔 I let his voice be louder than anything else. Never again!
@jessjv84
@jessjv84 2 жыл бұрын
2pm is perfect timing for me 💕. Hope i can catch you most days 😊.
@melt3563
@melt3563 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you're boosting Nadya, she rules :)
@SolitudeVolante
@SolitudeVolante 2 жыл бұрын
Before you said the name I knew it was gonna be Nadya. I found her around the same time I found funtie times
@augustoof13
@augustoof13 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t hear a lot of people talking about funtie times but I like them
@liloreoinya
@liloreoinya 2 жыл бұрын
😂 Liking a fat girl was never illegal. You wouldn't get murdered for liking a fat girl or marrying one. We've grown a lot though... So I'll excuse him, but holy moly..
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
I’m plus size we want people to like us too.
@Galworld761
@Galworld761 2 жыл бұрын
@@MelB868 fine. But no one should be force fed. The concern is that some women are fed into disability.
@cosmicreef5858
@cosmicreef5858 Жыл бұрын
Objectifying someone is hamrful since they are not objects. I think this should explain itself
@cosmicreef5858
@cosmicreef5858 Жыл бұрын
@@MelB868 You can't make people like you. People who even deserve your attention will not judge you for your looks anyhow but by your attitude and actions. People who would only pick you for your looks would not be a good partner anyways so why this panic about relationships? It is horrible that people are obsessed with things that are not needs Being desperate is not attractive.
@dollipop12
@dollipop12 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the fetish history is not surprising and I see a lot of fat acceptance/liberation types leaning back into this just without using the terminology. I see very prominent fat activist types on tiktok preaching this "you must like me more than you like thin women or else you are fatphobic" rhetoric constantly and their comments will be flooded with men responding with "I love you are all of your fat. I will feed you whatever you want whenever you want." And these women encourage those men fetishizing them by saying that is how not fatphobic men should respond. This then gets pushed onto teen girls that follow them and they fall prey to predatory fetishists and feeders without even knowing that's what they are. I was in the body positive movement in my late teens right as it hit its peak on Tumblr. I remember how anti fetishization everyone was about obese women. I remember people calling out influencers that had feeder or chaser boyfriends/husbands and the cycles of abuse they were stuck in. But as quickly as that came onto the scene it was pushed out by other people claiming being anti fetishization of fat women's bodies was being fatphobic and taking away the sexuality of sexual nature of fat women. As someone in the kink and sex Positive community, feederism is a touchy subject because unlike most fetishes or kinks the effects are long lasting, hard to reverse, and can easily lead to someone's early death. I don't think it should be automatically demonized because there are irresponsible and unethical people that exist within that space but I think a conversation about how that space is currently with consent and education is extremely necessary.
@gothghost7491
@gothghost7491 Жыл бұрын
One of my biggest problems with feederism is the issue of consent in the relationship. Some of these feeders don't advertize their intentions, and manipulate their partners into gaining the weight. And even if you have a couple with both consenting parties, there is no failsafe for the feedee. In BDSM and most otger kinks there is a propper way to keep it from going to far for both parties. But in feederism, there is no safe word to make it all stop and take a break. It creates a senario where a person is trapped and helpless with no way out. This is why I don't consider feederism a kink at all, it's abuse. It goes far beyond just liking bigger women.
@BrieCheese
@BrieCheese 2 жыл бұрын
I really like Nadya. I think that her most recent video is about an influencer who couldn't ride a horse because she was over the weight limit and the stable got cancelled on tiktok.
@cocolina53348
@cocolina53348 2 жыл бұрын
cancelled by people who were never gonna go in the first place
@annabees
@annabees 2 жыл бұрын
whaaaat? Did they think about the horse? That's just stupid. -_-
@codexone2194
@codexone2194 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an equestrian. Seeing that post made me so mad. A horse is not a carneval ride. It's a living being that can suffer serious health problems by bearing too much weight. Max rider weight plus saddle should be 10 to 15% of the horses body weight, with 20% being the absolute maximum.
@namtan6795
@namtan6795 2 жыл бұрын
Her followers also bombarded the stable with 1 star reviews. So gross.
@joseole1117
@joseole1117 2 жыл бұрын
@@namtan6795 the owners son blasted her on social media and said lot's of mean things. i don't feel bad for some rich douchbag's lmao.
@maristuginski
@maristuginski 2 жыл бұрын
Loved your nails in this one
@diadiaa892
@diadiaa892 2 жыл бұрын
I understand that being significantly overweight can negatively affect people’s perceptions of you and also possibly be the reason why some are discriminated against, but comparing it to Africans/ African Americans struggles to be accepted in society is WILDDDD!🤦🏾‍♀️ Also, I swear body positivity was originally intended for physical disabilities (missing limbs & prosthetics, burn survivors, down syndrome etc)? Like it was to uplift them and help the general public and themselves acknowledge that despite their disabilities they are capable and shouldn’t let it stop them from doing great things! It evolving is good, because in a sense we should all try to be more positive and confident in how we look. But shoving fat acceptance and ‘fat is healthy’ with misinformation and blame is not okay.
@Murrrrrrp
@Murrrrrrp 7 ай бұрын
I’m late to the party but the “Nah…yo…WHAT?” I’m dead 😂🩵
@sunilsameer1080
@sunilsameer1080 2 жыл бұрын
If it's 2pm on a week day, chances are I'm at work. But I'll see if I can watch on the sly
@rachaelgargagliano7090
@rachaelgargagliano7090 2 жыл бұрын
I’m overweight I’m 5 7’ female and 29 years old I started my journey on may 8 weighing 175.6 I do 30 minutes of cardio 7 days a week and an hour or so of strength training 5 times a week yesterday I did I weigh in and I hit my first milestone I lost ten pounds now I’m 165.6 at my fittest before the pandemic I worked out the same was a size 4 in jeans but weighed 150 I had the appearance of someone weighing 120 that is my goal to get back to my fittest
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
Your 5’7” 175 is that all please don’t even talk about your weight because that’s not bad I’m 5’3” and was 186 I’m 178 now I’m 5’3” I’m curvy but I don’t look that bad how dare you talk about you thinking your fat at 5’7” and 175 pounds that’s not even fat get a life
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
Size 4 is way too skinny and a ridiculous size
@rachaelgargagliano7090
@rachaelgargagliano7090 2 жыл бұрын
@@MelB868 to you maybe and body shaming are we
@MelB868
@MelB868 2 жыл бұрын
@@rachaelgargagliano7090 it’s a ridiculous size because it’s way too tiny and they are actually making clothes smaller than they use to that’s why I go to the plus size and don’t even bother with regular size
@rachaelgargagliano7090
@rachaelgargagliano7090 2 жыл бұрын
@@MelB868 in your opinion some people life weights work out are 150 pounds and a size 4
@cloama
@cloama 2 жыл бұрын
Anything that leads with straight men and their attractions is never good lol. Chubs and chasers parties in the late 90s and 2000s went crazy. I was getting invited even in my 20s because the dudes were basically trying to curate and control their dating pool. It is no different than exclusive communities with conventionally attractive people who have their own rules about bodies. It's two sides of the same gross ass coin. Edit: Blickenstorfer Evil Incorporatedddddd
@meteofa
@meteofa Жыл бұрын
There are people (men and women, though maybe 90% men) who love being fat, gaining, seeing other people gaining, and/or who literally live for fat people. I am a biological male, I was a fat fetishist for as long as I remember. I gained weight on purpose. I am very happy, I have health consequences and I will die younger, but that’s OK, I love my life.
@MirandaInCanada
@MirandaInCanada 2 жыл бұрын
*AGENT P!* 🎩🙌🏼
@carabell188
@carabell188 2 жыл бұрын
I was struggling with the mouth noises. But this was interesting albeit not really surprising. Bit sad.
@thematrix496
@thematrix496 2 жыл бұрын
Being a Black American and being obese are two different things.
@Global_Enlightenment_Now_2060
@Global_Enlightenment_Now_2060 Жыл бұрын
CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY ?????????????? We are not holding corp accountable for this issue.............
@Gaia_Seraphina
@Gaia_Seraphina 2 жыл бұрын
This is a perfidous way of abusing a mentally vulnerable victim!
@moonlightstargem1006
@moonlightstargem1006 2 жыл бұрын
Omg yay!! New video! 🎉
@Chris.Losingit
@Chris.Losingit 2 жыл бұрын
"Volcano waiting to erupt" POSSSIBLY after I had excessive taco bell but other than that I mean.. uhh whut? I am losing from a high of 630lbs and at no point was I volcano. HAHA.
@euphoricalbion1366
@euphoricalbion1366 2 жыл бұрын
i SCREAMED at this oh my god youre not wrong but cmon 😭😭😭🥺
@mentalovrdrive
@mentalovrdrive 7 ай бұрын
tf was that volcano reference supposed to be i snorted so loudly in my tea 😭
@julietmckaig3236
@julietmckaig3236 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, the name Blickenstorfer is German, and means "looks saver/glance storer". So Ig you could say the man is a "visual creature" (I hate that phrase but I couldn't resist the joke) Dufenschmirtz is sadly not actually a German name, and doesn't mean s***
@emanzeism
@emanzeism 2 жыл бұрын
Doofenschmerz is not a name but translates to stupid pain. “Storfer “ is not a German word.
@julietmckaig3236
@julietmckaig3236 2 жыл бұрын
@@emanzeism the root of the word still translates to storage, but names do change over time. You're right it's not a German word now. As for Doofensmirtz' name, that isn't how you say dumb in German that I've heard, but you definitely right Disney was inspired by German when making up that name.
@bad307207
@bad307207 2 жыл бұрын
As an exfat I'm really starting to hate fat acceptance, body positively, HAES. Yes fat prejudice does exist and it's wrong but even before this woke bs "fat acceptance" was always worse for me. When I was 290lb the amount of people who tried to feed me cake was unreal, it got to the point where I'd had to lie and say I didn't like cake, people seemed to take glee in my diet failing! The times people say you're not that fat etc when you... Fat activism isn't just riddled with toxic half truths (lies) that actually hurt people. It makes us fat/exfat people look stupid.
@boogyqueen
@boogyqueen Жыл бұрын
It is so clear the disconnect this generation has with the older one. The fat positivity movement started somewhere. And of course new things need to be buffed out and polished with time. Dont get your panies in a bunch over the past, accept history as it has brought us to the present. Everyone is so booty tickled lately, we are a weak and fragile generation.
@SybilNix
@SybilNix 2 жыл бұрын
Omg i didn’t expect a Nadia face reveal 😳
@incaseofrain8812
@incaseofrain8812 2 жыл бұрын
👀…..*slowly eats veggie chips* that escalated quickly.
@mikagrossmann5370
@mikagrossmann5370 2 жыл бұрын
The Doofenschmirtz comment came out of nowhere and I love it. "You see, Perry the Platypus, it all started back at Gimmelshtump with my cousin, Conrad Blickensdorfer..." "Behold!!! The fatinator!"
@Ashleyiza
@Ashleyiza 2 жыл бұрын
What people don't understand is that it boils down to being about health. I have seen it in my own life and family. Saying it's OK to be 400 pounds is NOT OK. We are censored so much nowadays that people can't even say shit! Yes you can be overweight and healthy. I do think so. But I highly doubt if you are 400 lbs you are healthy
@erlandaislund4594
@erlandaislund4594 3 ай бұрын
And it is all a matter of time. You are 400lbs and in your low 20s. You can be perfectly healthy. Becose the body is young anf strong and can compensate the aditional stress. But every day someone carries that extra amount of weight around, it takes a toll on the body. There are a lot of reasons, people gain weight. But the truth is: i have worked as a paramedic and i have met a lit of elderly people and people with health issues. And i never met a person over 50, who was morbidly obese their entire live. All obese people over 50 have gained their weight after something else effected their health and/or their mobillity.
@Frogslicer
@Frogslicer 2 жыл бұрын
Heyy Nadya nymph. Glad to see her channel on here
@muscleboundearth
@muscleboundearth 2 жыл бұрын
Love Nadya Nymph. Y'all should collab
@bridaw8557
@bridaw8557 Жыл бұрын
Why don’t they just go with the idea that Obesity is a real disease and that’s exactly why it needs treatment? There’s nothing wrong with having an illness But there is treatment now that works. There are lots of interventions that help. And just because it’s partially due to things not in our control, doesn’t mean it’s hopeless to stage what we can. It’s an individual thing, but saying a person should try is dangerous. Where are they getting the data that being extremely obese isn’t linked to bad health? If they’re still young and keep eating like that they’ll gain more every year until they wake up a 40 and are in 29 medications, have joint replacements and can’t move around freely. Young people go on tik tok and think these people are telling them the truth. You don’t see 45 year old very obese people saying their lives and health are great!
@amby7828
@amby7828 2 жыл бұрын
I understand the feederism is a fetish however not all who prefer larger people have a "kink" it is just a preference. just like those for a slender figure, larger chest, blonde hair etc. etc. you and the video make it sound like the only people who could possibly prefer a larger person is someone with a KINK
@stephaniesplussizeworld7011
@stephaniesplussizeworld7011 2 жыл бұрын
No wonder women (ssbbw) like myself felt like something was wrong with us. It took me over 10 yrs to realize nothing was and is wrong with me. We are treated different than skinny women by alot if people.
@faunaprince4466
@faunaprince4466 2 жыл бұрын
Love you man. You're a laugh
@Liz-wz8dh
@Liz-wz8dh 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a weird fetish. Of the many fetishes I've heard about, it's the hardest one for me to understand.
@lexi-lee
@lexi-lee Жыл бұрын
But...the woman at the start said, "Fat people CAN change".
@viviannichols3582
@viviannichols3582 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s really silly to ridicule someone for the body type they’re attracted to. I think it’s equally silly to care or take it seriously when someone ridicules you for the body type you’re attracted to. Both parties need to find a hobby. 😂
@catcookie6726
@catcookie6726 2 жыл бұрын
So,the first black model they featured was not until the 2000s. So fat phobia is rooted racism you say?
@Oddishhly
@Oddishhly 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 Doofenshmirtz is my favorite villain
@miacaruso7631
@miacaruso7631 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would be so much better if people understood that a heavy woman wants to be thought of as acceptable ,loved and seen as a wonderful person. No one should be promoting being obese or morbidity obese. It’s miserable to be obese or severely obese. O MG, the shear toll it takes on the knees to be obese is unbearable. I know from my own experience. Health to the best of our ability needs to be the goal.
@blane1814
@blane1814 2 жыл бұрын
The commentary 💀
@johannas.l.brushane2518
@johannas.l.brushane2518 5 ай бұрын
Bump an old subject because of the debacle about ALRs romance. Obviously many of the women are somewhat mentally insufficient with some sort of trauma and thereby inclined to selfdestructive behaviour, in the overeating in what partner they allow. This was around before internet also.
@sailormoon784
@sailormoon784 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, dudes talk to other dudes about what a woman wants. That's the key. Take notes, dudes! 🤭🤭😅
@skyeno6927
@skyeno6927 2 жыл бұрын
She has the best channel
@tell-me-a-story-
@tell-me-a-story- 7 ай бұрын
Interestingly, kindergartners don’t feel attraction. They get crushes based on admiration that they assume is attraction because it’s something people always talk about. I think as you get older and start to be attracted to people, you will remember what you had a crush on as a kid and it will subconsciously influence that. Like, there are no “gay kids” but some kids will have crushes on people of the same sex because a crush is just looking up to someone and thinking they’re pretty to look at. When they become an adult, that crush may or may not influence who they are attracted to as adults. It often doesn’t, which is why a lot of gay guys had crushes on girls as a kid. A childhood crush is not attraction, so he actually didn’t like fat women in kindergarten the way he liked them as an adult- But since there is a cause and effect, I wouldn’t be surprised if he knew a cool older kid who was overweight, maybe a babysitter or something.
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