Objection 4.18: Daniel

[@luzt182]

I don't understand none of this theology stuff, but one thing I know that I was blind and now i can see. I love the Lord with all my heart

[@gregdanielson9086]

Luz Torrez: When you say, "I don't understand none of this theology stuff," do you understand what the gospel is, which the church has turned into another, which is not another, and deceives many by that gospel they believe and teach, and brings many to think they're something they're not, which is why the end times began?

[@BruceWayne-th8gv]

Zechariah 13 that day a fountain shall be opened for the house of David and for the inhabitants of Jerusalem, for sin and for uncleanness.It shall come to pass that if anyone still prophesies, then his father and mother who begot him will say to him, ‘You shall not live, because you have spoken lies in the name of the LORD.’ And his father and mother who begot him shall thrust him through when he prophesies.It shall be in that day,” says the LORD of hosts, “that I will cut off the names of the idols from the land, and they shall no longer be remembered. I will also cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to depart from the land. And it shall be in that day that every prophet will be ashamed of his vision when he prophesies; they will not wear a robe of coarse hair to deceive. But he will say, ‘I am no prophet, I am a farmer; for a man taught me to keep cattle from my youth.’And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.

[@magdjesu7715]

I saw your comment about Daniel 9,...it's not so difficult as you think. I made 3 videos about Daniel and explain very simple many thinks. This is the 3rd one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p329XnWnaLmjrc0 Daniel 3: the little horn and the 70 weeks

[@cinesanti7]

You are worshipping the false Lord! The one true Lord, G-d, Savior, Redeemer, Creator, and Master of the Universe is Hashem (YHWH).

[@TheNorthFace-qm7vh]

​@@gregdanielson9086hellleuyahhhhh thank god someone knows

[@BaztonTV]

Dr Brown nails it. Jews can nitpick over this verse and that all day long, but ultimately if Daniel's timeline ends with the destruction of the second temple, then they're left with the burden of explaining away what is meant by the one who was like a son of man having an everlasting divine authority that will replace the kingdoms of Earth and who will be worshipped by all nations and in all languages..... Just look at how history has played out. It can only be a reference to Jesus and the church founded by his followers.

[@jaxstudios7670]

The Timeline of Daniel ends in 34AD fall...This is the rendering of the very moment that the 70th week ended...and so too probation for the Jewish nation. Acts 7 51Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye. 52Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers: 53Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it. The Stoning of Stephen 54When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth. 55But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, 56And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. 57Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, 58And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul. 59And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. 60And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep. They now have the very same chance we have of being grafted BACK into that olive tree called JESUA CHRIST...

[@עמיחיאלימלך-כ8ל]

ISRAEL is the "a son of man" in Daniel 7;13...read Daniel 7;27! 27 Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be handed over to the *holy people of the Most High* His(you see?!a nation as HE and not the plural THEIR!!)kingdom will be an everlastingkingdom, and all rulers will worshipand obey him(and not THEM...like in Isaiah 53 uses the singular SERVANT and MAN).’

[@FrankSui_]

I suggest you change the word “Jews” to “Orthodox Jews” or “religious Jews”, or “counter-missionaries.” Because: 1. Dr. Brown is a Jew. 2. When a Jew believes in the Jewish Messiah, Jesus, he remains a Jew, not “converted to Christianity” and “no longer a Jew”. 3. Salvation was “to the Jew first” (Romans 1:16) It’s the Gentiles that are grafted into the Jewish new covenant, not the other way round. 4. God has a plan to bring all Jewish people into the knowledge of the Messiah and bring Israel into their full purpose and calling. Which is exactly why Dr. Brown is doing these videos. Not to “tell Jews how wrong they are,” but to help them recognise the Messiah!

[@devinreed5725]

faith in Christ is pagan idolatry. It's all over the old testament. Deuteronomy 12:32-13:18 says it pretty clearly. Why do you need the blood of a human sacrifice when all god wants is our obedience? Psalm 51:16-17 god doesn't accept vicarious atonement and only you can make up for your sins Deuteronomy 24:16. There is one god and he is not man. And there is no savior Isaiah 43:11 Numbers 23:19 Zechariah 8:23

[@blasater]

He did not address the main point. It has nothing to do with messiah because 9:24 says it is for the "People" and the "City" to perform...NOT an individual. It is a collective task...not a messianic task.

[@joshuaisley9224]

My favorite part about 95% of the comments on this video is the fact that NONE of them actually watched the video. They just saw the title, couldn't comprehend it, and then attacked. You really shouldn't comment on things you haven't watched and therefore do not understand. Incredible.

[@blasater]

He did not address the main point. It has nothing to do with messiah because 9:24 says it is for the "People" and the "City" to perform...NOT an individual. It is a collective task...not a messianic task.

[@mikeyant2445]

@@blasater Thats not really in the text. It seems to be a preface explaining the scope of the prophecy. It is about the people and the city....it doesnt say it is performed by the people and the city.

[@blasater]

@@mikeyant2445 "24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression.....It is clearly a collective (corporate) task...not an individual.

[@mikeyant2445]

@@blasater Sorry...doesnt seem clear to me. The language does not compel that translation.

[@bennapthali]

So let's here your take in a nutshell!...Give us your "understanding."

[@markdavenport2613]

I have to admit, as a Christian, I have never gotten my head around the books of the prophets and have avoided them and kind of feel like I'd need to spend the next half of my life studying them to catch the surface of understanding them.

[@TheBanjoShowOfficial]

precisely. That's why they're amazing

[@thegreatcontroversychannel1611]

The 70 week prophecy began in 457 B.C. with the going forth of the commandment of Artaxerxes Longimanus. Jesus was anointed at the time of his baptism 69 weeks later (483 literal years) in 27 A.D. He was crucified in the midst of the 70th week in 31 A.D. Then Stephen was stoned and the gospel began to be preached to the gentiles in 34 A. D. After Jesus was baptized he preached "The time is fulfilled" referring to this prophecy.

[@regenerativeministries4982]

Yes. No doubt. The anti-Christ is deceiving futurists.

[@evallisalyngdoh8713]

Hi even me I am a SDA

[@PreciousRubi]

I’m still trying to figure this out solely from a biblical perspective. However, Daniel 9:25 says that the from the going forth of the word to the coming of the anointed one shall be seven weeks....(which is only 49 years). 457 - 49 = 408BC. ?

[@paulkujur8783]

@@PreciousRubi The next line says 62 weeks =434 days= 434 years which lands us at 27 AD from 408 BC which was the same year that Jesus started His ministry

[@robertbrown6879]

Sounds like crow-barring Scripture to fit with a theory?

[@Pcp-gp3cc]

To bring everlasting righteousness is meant to be brought by the son given to us. Isaiah 9:7

[@yoelestebansulistiono5664]

bro help i dont understand that part T-T

[@osvaldolopez9972]

That son was already born when Isaiah spoke.read chapter 7,8and 9 and you will see it is a forgery of the church

[@robertbrown6879]

@@osvaldolopez9972 It's like anything in life. To get to the truth you have to sift through and put up with the good, the bad and the ugly. Many sons were born, so what. So you're saying the Messiah already came. I thought devout Jews even to this day do not believe the Messiah came prior to the destruction of the 2nd temple.

[@samismael4422]

Yes, Hezekiah is that one. He’s the righteous one that the whole of Isaiah talks about. Not Jesus.

[@jerusalmit12]

"Rabbi Maimonides, the preeminent medieval Jewish philosopher and one of the greatest Torah scholars of the Middle Ages, said this about Daniel 9:24-27 - "Daniel has made known to us the knowledge of the end times. However, since they are secret, the wise rabbis have barred the calculation of the days of Messiah's coming so that the untutored populace will not be led astray when they see that the End Times have already come but there is no sign of the Messiah" (Igeret Teiman,Chapter 3 p.24.) Apparently, Maimonides believed that Daniel did accurately predict in advance events related to the "end times," including the date of the coming of the Messiah, but believed that they were "secret," or not understandable, and thus believed it best that the rabbis not teach Daniel chapter nine to their congregants lest they be dismayed if they believed they saw these events happening and the Messiah did not appear. A Sage said: "May the curse of heaven fall upon those who calculate the date of the advent of the Messiah, and thus create political and social unrest among the people."( Sanhedrin, 97b.)

[@robertbrown7470]

What rabbis are going to read and give credence to Paul's writings, like Romans and 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2, as well as the rest of the New Testament? Therefore it plays into God's plan that most of the Jews will not realize that Jesus was the Messiah until well into the final tribulation period. Blindness in part will come on Israel until the full number of gentiles come in. Paraphrasing I'm sure.

[@ts8960]

@@robertbrown7470 rabbis are correct that JC is nowhere in the old testament. New testament didnt even mention daniel 9 as fulfilled prophecy

[@robertbrown7470]

@@ts8960 The 69 weeks of Daniel coincide with the exact date of the Messiah being cut-off or there is no Messiah. The 70th week has not occured yet but we will probably see at least the start of it soon and with that the building of the third temple. Pretty simple and straight forward.

[@ts8960]

@@robertbrown7470 rabbi skobac and rabbi tovia demolished this lie. You live in lala land

[@robertbrown7470]

@@ts8960 Pretty nasty for a Christian or are you not a Christian?

[@philclark1184]

The prophecy speaks of seventy weeks to accomplish all that is listed, not 69 (7+62). The last week (7 years) is the time of Jacobs trouble in which God will deal with the Jewish nation to bring them to accept the Messiah they rejected.

[@michaelharrington75]

Yeah, but 69 weeks is the time given until Messiah. The final week hasn't happened yet.

[@JaxCover]

Hello. The probation for the Jewish nation as a whole was done at the stoning of Stephen. The official rejection of the Messiah by the nation in AD 34. That finished the 70th week. Israel is now composed of all of those of faith, not any literal nation. No future promises for the literal nation. Jesus cursed that fig tree at the ROOTS, never to bear fruit again, and told them that THEIR HOUSE was left until then desolate. AD 27 to AD 34 is the final week. No need to separate the last week from the rest of the prophecy. Blessings!

[@michaelharrington75]

@@JaxCover What between 27 AD and 34 AD was the covenant with many made for seven years by the prince who shall come, and the abomination that makes desolate? Did sacrifices stop in the middle of 30 AD?

[@JaxCover]

@@michaelharrington75 Hi. Yes, the PRINCE who was to come was the Messiah, Jesus Christ. He was called the prince several times in the book of Daniel. Jesus confirmed the covenant with the Jewish nation for 3.5 years himself, then 3.5 years through the work of his disciples until the nation officially rejected him by stoning Stephen. That totals 7 years. The sacrifices ceased when Christ died at the cross. This happened in the middle of the week, after 3.5 years. Between AD27 and AD34. Note that the veil of the temple was torn open, signifying the end of the animal sacrificial system. The 490 years was a probation for the Jewish nation. Those people as a whole rejected Christ, but a remnant of them came out, starting the Christian church, and the gospel went to the Gentiles. Now the punishment on the city and sanctuary for rejecting Him: The abomination that makes desolate is defined in the gospels, Matt 24, and (?? Mark 13??) as the Roman armies that would surround Jerusalem. Jesus said that when you see the Abomination spoken of by Daniel the prophet (in Daniel 9) to flee. The destruction and punishment was put off past the 490 years, but it was "determined". It was poured out later in AD 70. I'm open to any comments or questions you have. Thanks for asking! 😊

[@JaxCover]

@@michaelharrington75 Hello! I typed a response to your question this morning, but now I don't see it, so possibly I deleted it by mistake. Apologies if this is redundant. Ok. THE MESSIAH THE PRINCE is the subject of the entire prophecy from verses 25 through 27. Christ did every thing that " he" of verse 27 did. Christ confirmed the covenant with the Jews of his day. At the last supper he told his disciples that this was the blood of new covenant that was shed for many. Christ ministries for 3.5 years, to the Jewish nation. He told his disciples to only go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. The tried to teach the Jews that Christ was the true Messiah. After 3.5 years of this, the leaders of the nation officially rejected Christ, proving their decision by stoning Stephen in AD 34. This made a total of seven years. Remember, the 490year is the period of probation for the Jewish nation. In the midst of this week, or seven year period, Christ caused the sacrifice and oblation to cease by ending the system of animal sacrifices. Remember how the veil in the temple was ripped in two at his death? This signified the end of the animal sacrifices in the temple. By the way, verses 26 and 27 are about the same thing. They are parallels. Verse 27 says the same thing as verse 26. It just says these things in a different way. I can explain the parallelism later. As for the abom of desolation. Matt 24:15 and Mark 13:14 let us know that the Abomination of Desolation is the Roman armies that destroyed the temple and city. Altho the 490 years ended in AD34, God extended more mercy to the Jewish nation and withheld their punishment until AD 70 when Rome destroyed them. Please feel free to ask any more questions. Blessings! 😊

[@engtechno]

The issue was, after Ezra reformed Yahweh religion to monotheist Judaism, they suppressed polytheist content. For instance; Deut 32:8-9. In Daniel 9:24, for example, who on this earth beside Yahweh dares to claim they can do it, name one? Those who dares is directly attacking Yahweh deity.

[@alfonsoleyson3962]

The 70 weeks are a period of 490 days because in the first few verses, Daniel understood the 70 years of captivity are a result of failure to celebrate 70 Jubilees from the time of Saul unto their few years in captivity. Actually, they celebrated Jubilee only twice, once, during the birth of solomon and the next Jubilee they celebrated was during the inauguration of their Temple. Every 50 years, they should had celebrated 8 Jubilees and therefore, in there 451 years of history, they missed 70 Jubilees and only twice celebrated it. So, having kings and Temple doesn’t guarantee a right path to Yahweh but only make them sinned against Yahweh. So, the 70 weeks was not about rebuilding their Temple but rather points to the True Temple of Yahweh, his son, Jesus and his ministry. As a lamb of Yahweh, he must be of the first year, meaning, must be only year old as the length of his ministry, from his cleansing of the Temple unto the next year cleansing of the Temple again. It says the the roads shall be rebuilt again. Jesus being cutoff does not refer to his crucifixion but rather, him being chosen as the sacrificial lamb by his countrymen. This was Friday, after his 2nd cleansing of the Temple, five days before his death on April 28, 28 AD, Wednesday. One lunar year is 51 weeks but in 28 AD, an additional monty, Adar 2, was added before the Nisan 1 New Year, so as to wait for the harvest be ready. This makes the year 55 weeks and pushed the Passover to the end of April in 28 AD. The 70 weeks of Daniel did not started with a command of a Gentile king but rather by Yahweh Himself when Jesus was baptized by John on February 13, 27 AD, Thursday. Use 2003 calendar for this year. Add 7 weeks to it and this was the first entry of Jesus in Jerusalem, Thursday. The next day was his first cleansing of the Temple, Friday, for the after sunset Sabbath. Add the 7 weeks baptism to first cleansing to 55 weeks 2nd cleansing makes it 62 weeks where he was cutoff. Add 6 more days makes a total of 440 days. The 3 days and 3 nights from Wednesday afternoon to Saturday afternoon on May 1, 28 AD are not included. We still have 50 days more and this would be future. Add 66 times 11 times 1000 days takes you to January 20, 2016, the 7th year of Obama. Add 66 times 11 takes you to January 15, 2018, the 1st year of Trump. Add 11 times 28 or 11 lunar cycles and it will take you to the start of the covenant with many by the False Messiah. Trump’s days will only be 666 days. From Obama’s re-election on November 6, 2012, his rule was extended for 42 months. He will have to rule for another 40 weeks plus 6 weeks during the days of Tribulation. The last 50 days of the 70 weeks of Daniel will resume on the Days of Noah, the memorial of the flood, on the 17th day of moon wile the sun is at scorpio, on the 4365th year after the flood. It will be Saturday and jesus told the Jews to pray the their flight be not Sabbath day, for it will be on November 24, 2018 and it will be winter on those 40 days of Tribulation.

[@contemplate-Matt.G]

The whole period of 70 weeks was fulfilled in 70 ad. Nice try though

[@jaxstudios7670]

I see the DATE you set has come and gone meaning. DEUT 18; 19And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. 20But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

[@rickhuntling7338]

Daniel 9:24 " Seal up the vision and the prophecy" is the 7 weeks of Daniel 9:25. In the year 454 BC the decree to rebuild the city was given to Nehemiah, 49 years later, the last Prophecy was given in the year 405 BC in the reign of Darius II. Then 400 year of silence. GBU Rick

[@robertbrown7470]

The 69 sevens has been determined in many writings down to the day. You can find it if you search for it.

[@rickhuntling7338]

@@robertbrown7470 Joshua 3:4 is the about 2000 cubit of years between the first Testimony of the "Ark" passing the children of Israel aka 1st visitation of CHRIST. The gap between the ✝️and the second coming is about 2000 years as we speak. 2031 will be 2000 years exactly. The 70th week is soon to be fulfilled.

[@Hypnotoad206]

There are no "gaps"... they were to keep the jubilee calendar, lest they would be plagued by the Lord. after the 69 weeks (1 day for 1 year) the Israelites were asking who the messiah was and they believed it was John the Baptist... lo and behold, Jesus was baptized in AD 27 (the 69th week) and he said ****Mark **1:15** "the time is fulfilled"*****

[@rickhuntling7338]

@Nathan Self Nothing in 9:24 was accomplished by "thy" people accept the Tanakh was sealed up and no more prophets 7 weeks after the decree was issued to Nehemiah in 454 BC. From 405 BC no more vision or prophecy was created, known as the 400 silent years. The consummation can only be the 70th week which is after the holy city was made desolate. Last time I checked the Holy City and Thy People still have alot of prophecy sill not determined.

[@robertbrown7470]

Daniel 4:35

[@Jesusexplains]

THIS is HOW we KNOW that there is still ONE WEEK to be completed (the last 7 years) is because in Matt24:15 KJV JESUS referred us to Dan9:27 KJV and mentioned the abomination of desolation in the midst of the week as the sign of the beginning of the great tribulation (See Matt24:21 KJV) before Jesus returns (Matt24:29-31 KJV)

[@kirkspilsbury5059]

You right about the last seven years except that the man of sin (little horn) and the 10 horned beast only receive power for one hour (1 year) that is a year before the midst of the week bring the great tribulation to an end and bringing in the time of the wrath of God. The great tribulation occurs in the 1st half of the week followed by the rapture/resurrection then immediately the 2nd half brings in the wrath of God. After the full week completed then begins the millennium reign of Christ. Search utube for "Steve Cochran Prophecies" for more detail and full understanding. God Bless. Buy his book "The Graph"

[@aerodave1]

The 70 weeks have already been completed. They ran from 457 BC to 34 AD. The last week or 7 years is from Jesus' baptism in 27 AD to Stephan's stoning in 34 AD. The abomination of desolation Jesus warned about was the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. It is not the great tribulation at the end of time like some people are saying.

[@aerodave1]

@@kirkspilsbury5059 The last 7 years have already been completed. They ran from 27 AD to 34 AD. The man of sin is the pope and the papacy. There is no great tribulation found in the bible. There is a time of tribulation which is the 7 plagues but no 7 years of tribulation. The rapture/second coming are the same event. They are not separated by time. There is no Earthly millennial reign of Christ in the bible. We are taken up with Him to Heaven during the millennium. The Earth is burned up and destroyed with no one on it during the millennium.

[@Jesusexplains]

@@aerodave1 Yes, we’ve heard all that before, but Jesus proves by his own words that this just ain’t so. Jesus said in Mat24:15 KJV that when we see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, then shall begin great tribulation such as was not since, no, nor ever shall be. Then he said that immediately after those days of tribulation is when he returns to gather us - the Rapture! (Begin at Matt24:15 then Dan9:27 the back to Matt24:21 and finally Matt24:29-31 KJV)

[@kirkspilsbury5059]

@@aerodave1 Your understanding is completely incorrect. The 1335 days mentioned in Daniel 12 and the 1260 days are one and the same day, the last day. This is Daniel 9:27 when the sacrifice and offering ceases, meaning the time of salvation ceases. This day is also the resurrection and rapture and the day of the Lord, the day of judgment as per John 12:48 During the 1335 days the abomination is set up after 1290 days blessed is he who waits and comes to the 1335 day, which is the last day. Daniel and Revelation have nothing to do with the papacy although he is a type of antichrist he is not the man of sin mentioned in scripture. The man of sin comes out of the third beast inn Daniel7. In Daniel8 four horns arise after the destructing of America(the goat from the west) The one plucks out the three, this is the little horn, the antichrist. He comes from the West. He arises after the judgment of Mystery Babylon and eventually rules via sharia law changing the laws and the times. A little horn because of what is left in America after first trumpet in Dan8 , American is attacked by the 2nd beast in Daniel7 which is the bear, Russia. Christ returns midweek, Armageddon to destroy the armies surrounding Jerusalem and sets up his kingdom inn the earth. The church returns with Him. You'll notice the 144k are standing with Jesus on Mount Zion which is in Jerusalem and they are sealed, and have been redeemed from the earth They are pure, virgins ie they not given resurrection bodies but are delivered from sin, made to be in the same condition as Adam was before he sinned. Technically we back in the garden of Eden and the 144k will repopulate the earth during the millennium reign which has to be on the earth, they reside within the walls of the New Jerusalem and have access to the tree of life meaning they will live forever. God drove Adam and Eve from the garden lest they eat of the tree of life and live forever. Outside the city walls are those remaining who survive the time is wrath, scripture is clear that these are those who practice murder sorcery liars and those that practice sin, they cannot enter the New Jerusalem, they do not partake of the tree of life and live forever. Christ and the church rule for 1000 years after which Satan is released from the bottomless pit and goes about deceiving those outside the city wall. They surround the City to attack but fire comes down from God and destroys them all. This is now the 8th day. The 8th day a Jewish male was brought before the priest to be circumcised ie made clean, likewise the earth will be circumcised on the 8th day, sinners completely removed, sin eradicated from the earth forever. No-one gets saved during the millennium. The sacrifice ceased as per Dan9:27 The descendants born from the 144k are born sinless, they not sinners and need not salvation. What happens hereafter God has got planned and will still be revealed.

[@CincyShaves]

It's not the decree to build the temple, it's the decree to build the wall. Please be precise!

[@rolandrodriguez7145]

Who is still doing offerings and sacrifices and if they stop ,when and why , how can a covenant with Hshem be kept without them

[@robertbrown6879]

Are you talking about the covenant mentioned in Daniel 9:27?

[@kibo46]

Let’s get biblical. Christianity is not the solution it’s the problem.

[@victorvernon2507]

Wrong. Christ is the Answer. Evil has been done by all of mankind in the name of various religions. No belief system has ever done more good in the world than the Christian Church.

[@kathryncotter4933]

You’re the problem

[@kathryncotter4933]

Get out Antichrist spirit in Jesus name

[@rickhuntling7338]

@Real Messiah Your grammar is flawed. 1. Dan. 9:24 Israel needs to set aside the Mosaic Law "finish the transgression" 2. "make an end of sin" with belief in GOD and SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. 3. "make reconciliation for inquity" wash in the blood of CHRIST "bring in everlasting righteousness" Isa. 55:1-7 the Jer. 31:31 New Everlasting Covenant wrote on their hearts. 4. "Seal up the vision and prophecy" Israel sealed the Tanakh in 405 BC, 7 weeks after Nehemiah received the decree in 405 BC. 5. Anoint the most Holy will be fulfilled at the end of the 70th week when Isreal anoints Messiah the Prince King of all Israel. Ask yourself why Zech. 9:9? Jesus was repeating 1st Kings 1:33 but was reject by Caiaphis; 1st Kings 1:39 will be fulfilled in the 70th week. 6. You give argument for "the Messiah" translated with the definite artical but say nothing of it added to "a people" and "a prince" in 9:26. The Hebrew grammar has the pronoun Messiah the anticedant to the pro-form "HE" in 9:27. Messiah being JESUS has every reason to be capitalized if you truely believe HIM the creator. HE would spew you out of HIS mouth.

[@BruceWayne-th8gv]

In that day a fountain shall be opened for the house of David and for the inhabitants of Jerusalem, for sin and for uncleanness.It shall come to pass that if anyone still prophesies, then his father and mother who begot him will say to him, ‘You shall not live, because you have spoken lies in the name of the LORD.’ And his father and mother who begot him shall thrust him through when he prophesies.It shall be in that day,” says the LORD of hosts, “that I will cut off the names of the idols from the land, and they shall no longer be remembered. I will also cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to depart from the land. And it shall be in that day that every prophet will be ashamed of his vision when he prophesies; they will not wear a robe of coarse hair to deceive. But he will say, ‘I am no prophet, I am a farmer; for a man taught me to keep cattle from my youth.’And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.

[@lingotheoriginal9030]

The way I see it is it tells of the Messiah's entrance into Jerusalem and his crucifixion. and leaves a week for the tribulation. I also believe that there are always two or more ways to look at everything. The reason for this is Faith which is a significant factor as well, and it is left open-ended, so that faith is a factor. If it was all black and white and a solid line, then what would be the point. If you know something for certain, there is no need for faith or belief as it is already true. How, then, would anyone be tested as this world is a test for us? We are tested every day in every way to see who can rise above. I know we are all sinners, none are perfect, and no one will ever be, as we have seen what happened to the only perfect soul. They crucified him, we all fall short of the glory of God and if not for his love, none would be saved. So do not expect any clear-cut truths that are written in stone unless you want to dig the fifty or so feet under where Jesus was crucified and read the Tablets yourself.

[@meme-bd5hk]

Dr. Brown's issue with Rashi is in fact not an issue at all. He misunderstands Rashi. Rashi is not saying that the events have to CONCLUDE by the time of the end of the 70 weeks. Verse 24 is speaking about the process. Rather that these events have to be set into motion by the end of the 70 weeks. Thus the fact that the Messiah has not yet arrived fits perfectly with Rashi's explanation. This idea is very clear. Rashi states "so that Israel should receive their complete retribution in the exile of Titus and his subjugation," Thus we see that it is throughout the exile that the sins of Israel are being wiped away rather than the sins having been wiped away prior to the end of the 70 weeks. The truth is there are perhaps two possible ways of interpreting Daniel 9:24. Dr. Brown chooses to interpret it via the idea that all must conclude by the time the 70 weeks have occurred. Rashi interprets the verse with the idea that all must be set into motion by this point in time. There is in truth (to my knowledge) no definitive way from the verse itself to determine which is the correct interpretation. However this much I can state definitively... That jesus cannot be the second messiah referred to here. (the one who is cut off) There are a number of reasons for this, but I will focus on the one that speaks best to the issue at hand here. Namely the ending of sin. If it is true that the interpretation Dr. Brown provides is the correct one and it is fulfilled in jesus, then according to Dr. Brown Israel is IN FACT without sin. Thus Israel has no need to acknowledge jesus in order to be forgiven. We are already without sin. Not only that, but according to Dr. Brown's logic there would be no sin if I were to pick up a gun and become a mass murderer since my sins are ended as the verse states. For the above reason I am forced to conclude that Dr. Brown's interpretation of verse 24 has to be incorrect not because the verse indicates that all things must conclude at the point the 70 weeks end, but rather because we clearly see that sin has in fact not ended. Thus Rashi's interpretation turns out to be the correct one. As far as Daniel 2 and Dr. Brown's comment. His issue is with the fact that Rashi is speaking of the Roman Empire and thus he has a problem with how this could take place in the future (where there is presumably no Roman Empire) his mistake stems from the fact that he doesn't realize that the Roman Empire still stands today. Whilst the military might no longer exists, the Roman Empire does still exist. It exists via the church. (which are the feet and toes of the statue in the dream related in Daniel chapter 2) The church is the divided kingdom part of iron part of clay which appeared in the dream of Nevuchadnetsar as related in Daniel chapter 2. It is a divided kingdom. (verse 41) (part Rome, part Constantinople)

[@savedsinner2725]

Is not effective until they"the Jewish " receive him..

[@עמיחיאלימלך]

And that is why you can't says that this is a prophesy about Jesus.

[@dinusirbu7168]

For those who love the truth, I recommend to watch videos in KZbin with “Rabbi Tovia Singer” - he explains the Bible very well. m.kzbin.info ,,,,, www.toviasinger.tv

[@robertbrown6879]

Right, as Paul states quite clearly, "blindness, in part, has come upon Israel..." It's for the sake of the gentiles so they can come in. One of the prophecies or requirements before Jesus returns is that the full number of gentiles come in. The other is that He said he will not return until Israel says, "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord."

[@krishyyfan5153]

STop your Joke...the Temple sacrifices CLEARLY Ended according to Prophecy...the NEW Sacrifice has come and it will be the Sacrifice of the Christian Gentiles according to Prophet Malachi... "(MALACHI 1:11) My name will be great among the nations, from where the sun rises to where it sets. In every place incense and pure offerings will be brought to me, because my name will be great among the nations,” says the Lord Almighty."

[@sunray2953]

Most of the stuff confusing because people take it literally, like the word the temple of God people think it is the building but actually He is Jesus himself. So, Daniel his prophecy mainly about the born of Jesus, his death and about the anti-Christ. Most prophets their message was mainly about the coming of the Messiah.

[@samismael4422]

The prophets wrote/spoke literally. Christianity and the church fathers/interpreters misconstrue prophecy to provide support for their invention on Jesus. Critical research is needed by Christian’s to become free of this false religion

[@apuntes8883]

Daniel 9:26 To me it says that after that period of time the anointed one is no more. In other words he changes from the role of anointed, savior whatever to probably no more in that role, perhaps against the civilization for they have failed or sinned against him during that time. It means that the chances of civilization for salvation by the anointed one are no more. The time is over. And all of this coincides with a Cataclysm that leads or that finishes in a war which also leads to the final ruin. It is all about not fulfilling the laws of god for a civilization.

[@robertbrown6879]

Slight problem with that however. That is, all have sinned and fallen short (not some, not one). God has said He is not abandoning Israel even at the end. Jesus came to reconcile sinful man with a sinless, righteous God. Satan's plan was rebellion and to throw a proverbial monkey wrench into God's plan. God thwarted that plan. God's plan is still working, hasn't been finished yet.

[@krishyyfan5153]

no more sacrifices in the Temple because the New Sacrifice of the Christ has come and this Sacrifice will be performed by the many nations.... "(Malachi 1:11) My name will be great among the nations, from where the sun rises to where it sets. In every place incense and pure offerings will be brought to me, because my name will be great among the nations,” says the Lord Almighty."

[@Charles-tv6oi]

Jesus is the way to overcome sin

[@ts8960]

you are right, Cyrus was the annointed one in this passage. and Daniel predicted persia's downfall in the vision of the 4 beasts, so it aligns here too. Cyrus was described as Mosiach in another passage in tanakh.

[@aerodave1]

The 490 years is the 70 weeks talked about in the prophecy. It is the same period. Everything in the prophecy has already come to pass. The problem is this guy is using an inaccurate translation of the bible (NESB). Using the KJV or NKJV you will get a better picture.

[@robertbrown7470]

Absolutely not.

[@aerodave1]

@@robertbrown7470 Absolutely not what?

[@robertbrown7470]

Everything in the prophecy has already come to pass. Any imbecile that can read the Bible can debunk that statement. That is an insane statement. Hope you can get a lot of people to buy that load of garbage. Is that clear enough?

[@ntkmw8058]

The NKJV is actually made from mostly the NIV if you didn’t know. Best stick to the KJV, the only version that was ever authorized

[@aerodave1]

@@ntkmw8058 That's actually not true. The NIV is off of a different tree than the KJV or the NKJV.

[@ncbncb77]

Sorry, but I'm convinced by the Jewish analysis more - it's so much more precise and avoids begging the question of "who else".

[@Joefest99]

Nile Britanico How could you possibly come to that conclusion?! And I’m Jewish, by the way!

[@johnnybrave7443]

www.prophecysociety.org/PDF/HITO_FREE.pdf Another good explanation for the 70 weeks. I guess this is a better one. I'll be glad if you guys take a look. An excellent commentary from Dan Bruce. This one's even better than the orthodox Jewish interpretation.

[@Joefest99]

Jonny brave Thank you.

[@johnnybrave7443]

@@Joefest99 You're welcome, brother! Read it fully?

[@Joefest99]

Jonny brave Will do!

[@UtahKent]

Prophets are also anointed. With that in mind, the end of the first "seven" would have been around the time of the end of the Old Testament Prophets Ezra, Nehemiah, Malachi from the starting point of the prophecy. So what was the "decree" that started the clock. Instead of using the fourth item or the second authorization by Artaxeres to Nehemiah around 445 BC, look at the third item, the decree of Artaxeres to EZRA approximately 457 BC recorded in Ezra 7. In that decree, Ezra is not only provide supplies to physically "rebuilt", but he is also commission to appoint civil officers to effectively reestablish and "restore" Jerusalem as a city and political entity. This is the only one of the four possible "decrees" that restored Jerusalem as a city. So from that starting date of 457 plus 7+62 actual weeks, gets us to the coming of 2 more anointed ones: John the Baptist; Jesus the Christ - Messiah. And after the 62, not immediately, but about 3 1/2 years, He - Messiah is cut off. And about 3 1/2 years after his death and ressurection, Peter received the vision of unclean beats, Paul was converted, and the gospel covenant Jesus confirmed with Judah was taken to another people, the Gentiles, and the time of the Gentiles came into being.

[@robertbrown6879]

But isn't Paul making it clear that the Messiah, Jesus, will not return until after the full number of gentiles come in? Also, He will not return until the chosen people say, "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord."

[@TalkingOutOfSchool]

(Luke 18:31) Then he took [unto him] the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and *_all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished._* (Luke 24:44) And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that *_all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me._* Dan 9:27 KJV And *he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:* - Mark 14:24 And he said unto them, *_This is my blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many._* - (Luke 1:72) To perform the mercy [promised] to our fathers, *_and to remember his holy covenant;_* - (Rom 15:8) … Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision... *_to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:_* Dan 9:27 (continued) and *in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,* - (Hebrews 10:10) KJV *_we are sanctified through *_the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all._* - (Hebrews 10:12) KJV … *_he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever,_* … Dan 9:27 (continued) … _and for the overspreading of abominations_ … *he shall make it desolate,* _even until the consummation,_ *and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.* - Matthew 23:37-38 *O Jerusalem, Jerusalem,* _thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee,_ ... [38] *_Behold, your house is left unto you desolate._*

[@thomaskittrell6550]

Daniel was written around the time of the maccabees and looked back in time…it’s easy to see

[@chrisbaldwin2717]

Everlasting righteousness? Yeshua never brought everlasting righteous for one the Jews were still having problems with the Romans even after Yeshua was crucified. Plus for Jesus to bring everlasting righteousness he would have to bring peace to the land instead he said “He came not to bring peace, but the sword. To set a son against a father, a daughter in law against her mother in law, and a son in law against his father in law.”

[@robertbrown6879]

Good point.

[@davidmathews9633]

Chris Because the Jews rejected Him. Things could have been a lot different if they accepted him

[@robertbrown7470]

Read again. It's the 70 sevens, not the first 69 of the sevens. The 70th seven has not begun. The Anti-Christ has not assumed the role as world leader. He has not proclaimed a peace treaty with many which certainly includes Israel. The third temple has not yet been built. And of course the Anti-Christ has not appeared in the third temple claiming to be God since there is no third temple - yet. In other words, the full time period of which the 70 sevens encompasses, has not happened yet. Therefore, everlasting righteousness has not occured yet. The Messiah has not returned and will not until at or near the end of the 70th week which is still on hold.

[@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus]

Your videos rock! I've watched almost all of them and subscribed. Thank you!

[@SpotterVideo]

Based on Hebrews 9:15 and Hebrews 12:22-24, the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26 cannot be separated from the New Covenant fulfilled by His blood at Calvary. Are we supposed to believe the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant. Or, is the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28? The 1599 Geneva Bible is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America, before John Darby showed up on our shores about the time of the Civil War. What was the earlier understanding of Daniel 9:27 found below in the notes of the 1599 Geneva Bible? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate. Daniel 9:27 And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles. (See Rom. 1:16, Matt. 10:5-7, Acts 10:36-38) (b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection. (See Heb. 9:15) (c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them. (See Matt. 23:38, Matt. 24:1-2, Luke 19:41-44) ------------------------------------------------ During recent years many New Covenant scholars have examined Daniel chapter 9 from a New Covenant perspective. Did Christ fulfill the summary found in Daniel 9:24? Is it about the New Covenant fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary? Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (These two verses are quoted from Jeremiah 31:31-34.) Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. The death of the Messiah is found in Daniel 9:26, and there are only two possible singular antecedents for the word “he” in the next verse. Those antecedents are either Christ or Titus, who was the prince of the people that destroyed the temple during 70 AD. Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Is the “he” in Daniel 9:27 the “Messiah”, or “the prince” of the people that destroyed the city and the sanctuary in verse 26? If we used “the people of the prince” it would not be a singular “he”. Does the author of the Book of Hebrews connect the New Covenant with the Messiah’s death found in Daniel 9:26, in the verse below? Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. (NKJV) Verse 26 also says the Messiah would be cut off “after” the 69 weeks. If I agree to paint your house “after” 69 weeks, it will not be painted until the 70th week, or after. Is there a “gap” of almost 2,000 years between the 69th week and the 70th week, or was it fulfilled during the first century when the Gospel was preached “first” to the Jews? We know there is a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as the Apostle Paul said in the verse below. Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. Can we find a time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” to Daniel’s people during the first century? If we can, we have good evidence that the 70th week of Daniel has already been fulfilled. Did Christ command His disciples to take the Gospel only to Israel in the passage below? Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Mat 10:7 And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' Is the time period when the Gospel was preached “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews in the passage above, confirmed in the passage below? Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. In the passage above Luke confirms the fact that the Gospel of Christ was preached throughout the land of Israel after the baptism which John preached. Here again, we have a text which reveals a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as Paul said in Romans 1:16. Bible scholars have looked at the number of Passover celebrations in the Gospels and have estimated Christ’s earthly ministry to have lasted about three and one half years. Was the Gospel taken “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews for a period of about three and one half years during the period of time revealed in the Gospels? In Galatians 1:14-18 Paul reveals he did not go up to see Peter until about 3 years after his conversion. During that time the Gospel continued to be taken almost exclusively to Daniel's people, before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles. Watch the KZbin video on Daniel 9 by Dr. Kelly Varner.

[@GeoffSh4rt]

You'll do far better watching the videos of Tovia Singer or Jews for Judaism.

[@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus]

@@GeoffSh4rt *_TOVIA IS A LIAR! ASK HIM WHY HE CONTRADICTS HIS OWN ORAL LAW THAT HE CLAIMS WAS GIVEN BY GOD ON MOUNT SINAI?_* _"YOU EMBARRASS YOURSELF BY PROMOTING HIM!*_ 🤣🤣🤣

[@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus]

@@GeoffSh4rt *TOVIA ARGUES AGAINST ALL THESE TALMUD RABBIS BELOW - HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE ORAL LAW - IF HE DID, WHY WOULD HE TEACH CONTRARY TO IT?* *TALMUD ON ISAIAH 53* *Talmud citing Isaiah 53:12 (Sotah 14a)**refers to THE MESSIAH* in an early midrash: *THE DESCENDANT OF DAVID* . Why was he called a great mountain? Because he will be greater than the patriarchs, as is said: *Behold, MY SERVANT shall prosper, he shall be exalted and lifted up, and shall be very high* (Isa. 52:13). He shall be exalted above Abraham; lifted up above Isaac; and shall be very high above Jacob. He shall be exalted above Abraham, concerning whom it is said: I have lifted up my hand unto the Lord (Gen. 14:22); lifted up above Moses. (Tanchuma Toldot 14:1) *TALMUD ON ISAIAH 9:6* *Iggereth Teman (Rabbi Moses ben Maimon writes to Jacob Alfajumi):* “God named Him (the Messiah) with six names as He says concerning Him: ‘For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and *HIS NAME SHALL BE CALLED* Wonderful, Counsellor, *GOD* , Mighty, *EVERLASTING FATHER* , Prince of Peace’. That *HE CALLS HIM GOD* in a distinctive manner, is to say with it, that *HIS GLORY surpasses that of all other children of men* *_Are your Talmud Rabbis all lying? If so, you have a problem! Either your anti-missionary rabbis are lying or your oral law is lying - which is it?_* *_You realize that Rabbinnic Judaism is not the original Judaism of biblical days right?_* *_Most of their practices are pagan - from their captive countries like Egypt and Babylon_* LOL!!!

[@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus]

@@GeoffSh4rt *_ARE YOU ALSO AWARE THAT ALL YOUR TALMUD RABBIS ADMIT TO ALTERING SCRIPTURE?! - YET YOU ALL ACUSE THE CHRISTIANS OF ALTERING SCRIPTURE!_* *Rabbi Hiyya bar Abba said in the name of Rabbi Yohanan* : “ It is better that *ONE LETTER BE REMOVED* from the Torah than that the Divine name be publicly profaned.” - ( *_HERE’S THE LETTER THAT WAS CHANGED IN PSALM 22:16_* ) *Midrash Tanchuma, Beshalach 16:2* Similarly it is written: For he who toucheth thee toucheth the apple of his eye (Zech. 2:12). *_“My eye” should be written here, for it refers, as it were, to the Heavenly One. However, THE TEXT WAS MODIFIED BY THE SCRIBES OF THE GREAT SYNAGOGUE_* . The verse Ye say also: “Behold, what a weariness is it! And ye have snuffed at it” (Mal. 1:13) *_was likewise altered_* . The verse I will judge his house forever, for the iniquity, in that he knew that his sons did bring a curse on themselves, and he rebuked them not (I Sam. 3:13) *_was also modified_* … *_ENGLISH TRANSLATION_* BEREISHIT 49:7_ And they turned away from the name of the people (Genesis 18:22), God says there is no back for the angels. (Bereishit 18:22): And they went to Sodom, and Abraham stood before God, said Rabbi Simon Tikkun Sofrim. ( *_God was waiting for Abraham - your rabbis changed this_* ) *Tikkun Soferim in Bereshit Rabbah 8* Since it was really Hashem who was waiting for Avraham, *THE TEXT SHOULD HAVE READ* (or did read) לפני עומד עודנו' ה אברהם. Tikkun Soferim implies that since it would not be proper to state that Hashem waited for Avraham, *THE TEXT WAS EMENDED TO* 'ה לפני עומד עודנו אברהם. This particular statement of Rabbi Simon appears in Shemot Rabbah, Va-Yikra’ Rabbah, Midrash Tehillim and Midrash Tanḥuma. 9 In this context Tikkun Soferim seems to indicate that indeed the Soferim corrected the text ( *_THEY DIDN’T CORRECT SCRIPTURE - THEY ALTERED IT!_* ). *Midrash Tanchuma, Beshalach 16:3* ( *_SEFARIA SITE_* )They are called scribes because they counted every letter in the Torah and interpreted it. Thus *THEY AMENDED* ( *_ALTERED_* ) And lo, they put the branch unto My nose to read their nose . ( * in Ezekiel 8:17, "Lo, they put the branch to His nose," was adjusted to "their nose* .") *_THE LXX AND DEAD SEA SCROLLS PROVE THAT THE SCRIBES LATER ALTERED SCRIPTURE AS THEY ALSO ADMITTED IN THEIR TALMUDIC WRITINGS!_*

[@blasater]

Wrong: You did not address the main point. It has nothing to do with messiah because 9:24 says it is for the "People" and the "City" to perform...NOT an individual. It is a collective task...not a messianic task.

[@robertbrown6879]

Unless the English translations are wrong, then you are not correct. It said "for the people" not by the people.

[@blasater]

@@robertbrown6879 Read the chapter from the beginning ....The subject is the Jewish PEOPLE...

[@robertbrown6879]

@@blasater Just dealing with 9:24, where does it say, in this verse, that the Jewish People will put an end to sin and bring in righteousness. When did that happen? I don't think we can put blinders on to the rest of reality and to the rest of Scriptures, let alone the next three verses after 9:24.

[@robertbrown6879]

@@blasater Here's a more general question even. When did the Jewish People save themselves? Why are they looking forward to a Messiah, a Savior? Why do righteous people need a Savior - righteous people would not need a Savior. Why does God say, there are none that are righteous, no not one.

[@robertbrown6879]

@@blasater Thirdly, and this is what I was going to reply with in the first place: What is the purpose of God choosing Israel? Why was there an Abraham, a father of many nations - not only the nation of Israel? Those first two questions I posed explain why there is a gap between the 69th and 70th week because the Messiah was cut-off but not for Himself. What an excellent translation that is, looking back and forward. The gap of nearly 2,000 years explains one of the main purposes of the purpose of the chosen people and it explains why there is a father of many nations. I think that most people let other people tell them what to think and believe about what the Bible says instead of determining what it says by themselves. And of course listening to many Bible scholars, Rabbis, etc. Sifting what makes sense, what seems right and fits Scripture and what does not. And fits history and times. And maybe it is because people are part of a group that has a certain mind-set or interpretation and it would be difficult and maybe life altering to go against the group. Imagine a pastor going against the teaching of a church or a church system, like Calvary Chapel, that pretty much has a doctrinal belief in the pre-trib theory? Mike Winger is one that does that, for example. But that is rocking the boat. God forbid a Rabbi would do such a thing, people would be tearing their clothes! lol I think most people just accept what they are taught by the Rabbis or by Christian Pastors of their church or by the Magisterium in Rome or whoever. That is where they fail to get to the truth. That is what I see play out over and over again. Dr. Brown here is being very honest and objective. He is not bringing in the teachings of Jesus and the New Testament and Christian beliefs. As a Christian who believes Jesus was the Messiah and not only for the Jews, I read the New Testament writings which shed a great deal of light on many things in the Old Testament as we call it. Like 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2 which ties very directly into Daniel 9:27. As one example. A very very tough passage for preterist positions, pre-tribulation positions, etc. A huge stumbling block that must be decimated and explained away. Even a stumbling block for whoever interprets Daniel 9:27's final 70th week as either consecutive (say 40 AD) or happening in or around 70 AD. What???? A gap you say of maybe 37 years? How could that be? lol Of course 40 AD, as the 70th week, would be too strange to back as that is when the writings of the Apostles began to be written or very shortly after that. The consecutive 70 weeks idea fits nothing. No end to sacrifice and an abomination of desolation in 40 AD. And wait a second here. What is the difference between 9:26 and 9:27? The city and sanctuary are destroyed. And then comes the desolation of the temple and end to sacrifice? What? Something is missing between 9:26 and 9:27. One is talking about after the 69th week, the other is talking about the 70th week after the destruction of the 2nd temple. Hmmm? A third temple. Whoa! Ouch!

[@PastorJC]

This is the Michael Brown we all loved...not the political mogul we have now.

[@robertbrown6879]

Michael Brown for President in 2024!

[@PatriciaBurns]

A misunderstand occurs when the seven WEEKS of Daniel 9:25 are taken to mean YEARS. Dan. 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince (Jesus) shall be SEVEN WEEKS (49 days), and THREESCORE AND TWO WEEKS (62 weeks): the street shall be built again, AND THE WALL, even in troublous times.

[@johnnybrave7443]

www.prophecysociety.org/PDF/HITO_FREE.pdf Another good explanation for the 70 weeks. I guess this is a better one. I'll be glad if you guys take a look. An excellent commentary from Dan Bruce.

[@TheBinaryWolf]

The term weeks means sevens, and hebdominal time was vommon in ancient times. To say seven weeks or sevens does not mean years creates a huge problem when reading the many passages elsewhere in Holy Writ.

[@robertbrown6879]

Without the benefit of the New Testament, I would agree that Daniel 9:27 would not make sense. Like Paul talking of the son of perdition, obviously the Anti-Christ, sitting in the temple of God claiming to be God, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12. And you have the benefit of later Scripture really generated by Jesus which make it clear at least the approximate time of Jesus' death, burial and resurrection around 30 AD (give or take a few years at best). Some would say 28 AD using various facts and circumstances, some would say either 32 AD or 33 AD using the 69 sevens prophecy. Obviously that is not 70 AD. But without the New Testament books inspired by Jesus and the Holy Spirit, none of this would be clear. I would agree about the importance, especially with devout Jews, that the main thing is to show that the Messiah came when He was supposed to come, even if it was before the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. However, once a person sees that Jesus was the Messiah who came and was cut-off but not for Himself, then you have history as well as New Testament Scripture that illuminates Daniel's prophecies and more. And then you are back to about April 32 AD.

[@Charles-tv6oi]

Everyone else gets it ,including Jews who converted , but those who trust rabbi popes n Talmud over the Tanakh just end up like this guy. And KJV win Everytime on every debate and is translated in OUR language. It wins every debate while the others even make Jesus look like he's sinning! Why trust Alexandrian texts when Alexandrian cult opposed St Stephen in Acts.

[@bel31670]

Better question did Jesus die after the Passover meal like stated in Matt, Mark and Luke or did he die before the Passover meal which is clearly stated in John.

[@di4c4christ12]

Also, to the Christians here: How do you allow a comment like this to go unanswered and not explain the Jewish calendar and timekeeping difference between the ancient Jewish people and this modern persons understanding. If you might have answered rather than skimming by than this person might have seen he or she was being corrupted by stupid foolish people.

[@robertbrown7470]

@@di4c4christ12 That has already been done by scholars. Why pick at a nit?

[@di4c4christ12]

@@robertbrown7470 - 1 Peter 3:15 and Matthew 7:6.

[@aerodave1]

This guy is just plain wrong in his interpretations. There is NO gap between the 69th and 70th week. Jesus the Messiah has EVERYTHING to do with Daniel 9. The 70 weeks run from the decree of Artexerxies to rebuild the temple in 457 BC to Stephen’s stoning in 34 AD. The 70th or final week is from Jesus’ baptism to Stephen’s stoning. After that the gospel went to the Gentiles.

[@AntonNor]

Why to specifically to Stephens stoning?

[@aerodave1]

@@AntonNor Stephen's stoning was important in that it would mark the end of the period that the Jews had to turn back around towards God. Daniel told them that they would have 70 weeks or 490 years in which to turn around. They did not so the gospel then went to the Gentiles. That also marks the entrance of Paul since he was helping them stone Stephan. It also lines up perfectly with the end of the 70th week math wise in 34 AD.

[@faithfulservantofchrist9876]

​@@aerodave1the gospel was going to go out to the gentiles no matter what. It's in Isaiah 49 they Christ will bring the salvation of the Lord to the ends of the earth. Yes it says Israel and it's Christ because it also says he will bring back Jacob to God. The mystery of the gentiles is found out later it wouldn't have been a mystery if it would have been said there'll be a pause of over 2000 years until the fullness of the gentiles. It's God he knows the future he knew the Jews would reject Christ. It sounds like you're saying he was waiting to see.

[@aerodave1]

@@faithfulservantofchrist9876 No, I'm not saying God was waiting to see. I'm saying God is fair and just. He gave the Jews 490 years to turn around and they didn't. It is to show that God gave them time to make a decision. They chose poorly so the gospel went to the Gentiles. There was no pause for 2,000 years. The 70 weeks was a continuous 70 weeks. There was no pause or break. That's the point.

[@lancegaynor8378]

You must remember that the orthodox Jews did NOT and still does NOT believe that JESUS was their Messiah! So what are you trying to prove using their writing???? The 490 years ended in the time of JESUS. What's the problem with you people? Why do you think you should understand the Holy Scriptures and the prophecies better than JESUS Apostles and disciples? Had the Jewish people understood the prophecies of JESUS the Gentiles would have no SAVIOUR because they would all believe. JESUS disciples and Apostles did not understand the Holy Scriptures until He opened their understanding. Who gave you the right to come on international media and make out as if there are errors with the Holy Scriptures! There are no errors with the Holy Scriptures. Leave what you don't understand. We will never understand all the prophecies! You should move this video from international media and REPENT for what you said.

[@robertbrown6879]

And Paul explains why blindness, in part, came upon Israel.

[@rickhuntling7338]

Daniel 9:27 "And HE (CHRIST) shall confirm the covenant (Isiah 55:3) with the many (every tongue, people and nation) for one week (7 literal days): and in the midst of the week (Wednesday/Thursday Passover HE (CHRIST) shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease (IT IS FINISHED) and for the overspreading of abominations (continued animal sacrifice 40 years). HE (CHRIST) shall make it desolate (Jews scattered), even until the consummation (70th week) and that determined (Lk. 21:24, "Time of the Gentiles be fulfilled)shall be poured upon the desolate (Gospel poured upon the children of the desolate Isa. 54:1)". The covenant was confirmed by CHRIST with HIM being the first fruits of the resurrection (sure mercy of David Isiah 55:3) The one week is CHRIST entry into Jerusalem on Sunday. HE removes the leaven from HIS FATHER's house. HE is inspected by the high priest for flaw or blemish for 4 days. HE was sacrificed in the midst of the week, then descends to the heart of the earth; 1st Pet. 3:18,19 for 3 days and 3 nights . He confirms the covenant on the 7th day with the resurrection fulfilling Isiah 55:3. Its that beautiful.

[@ntkmw8058]

‼️‼️Good News to Anyone and Everyone‼️‼️ The gospel, the good news is salvation from hell. And here’s how to get it, the Bible makes it as clear as can be. “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved”, acts 16:31. Words from your mouth don’t even need to be accompanied, just “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved” from hell, it’s this easy!! If you don’t believe it’s this easy, read Matthew 11;30 KJV

[@robertbrown6879]

Michael Brown, go to 5:58 in the video and pause it. You would make a great Wyatt Earp, with a change of costume of course.

[@ntkmw8058]

‼️‼️The Best News‼️‼️ The gospel, the good news is salvation from hell. And here’s how to get it, the Bible makes it as clear as can be. “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved”, acts 16:31. Words from your mouth don’t even need to be accompanied, just “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved” from hell, it’s this easy!! If you don’t believe it’s this easy, read Matthew 11;30 KJV

[@jaxstudios7670]

Let us reason together... IF this passage in Daniel 9:25-27 IS not about JESUA then we NEED to ask ourselves and answer these questions. Why would a commandment be given the jews already in captivity to restore jerusalem to the coming antichrist or earthy prince who is just gong to take them back into captivity? Why would the jews rebuild all of it for a prince that IS NOT the true messiah ? IF the jews spent 490 years getting Jerusalem ready for an earthly prince or a future antichrist which DOESN'T COME until 2000 plus years later? WHY is this 70 weeks being played out in Daniels time and not in this time of ours? Why is iniquity, sins and transgressions a problem if the prince is earthly or is antichrist? ISN'T HE FOR sin and iniquity and not against it?? Why is everlasting righteousness mentioned? Isn the coming prince or antichrist against everlasting righteousness ? If this MOST HOLY isn't Jesua but an object as some here say how is it anointed and why is an OBJECT anointed, Aren't only MANKIND or ELOHIM to be anointed and not OBJECT=IDOLS? AND the final question...IF this prophecy isnt about Jesua and the JEWS didn't FAIL to bring all the prophecy states then WHY did Elohim PUNISH them once again by allowing their city to be sacked and their temple destroyed once again? Why is this JUST for Daniels people? Why not all mankind for it is all mankind who are able to be saved not just the jews? And it is NOT ALL mankind also who will be affected by this end time antichrist?. And why hasn't the temple been rebuilt before today? haven't the jews been in their territory since 1967? Have they had no time to rebuild it, and what is the reason for this? When one seriously begins to ask and to answer these VITAL questions and begins to see how this IS nothing but CONFUSION how can one come to the conclusion that this MESSIAH THE PRINCE can be none other than JESUA himself. For ELOHIM IS NOT the author of confusion Satan is.

[@dinusirbu7168]

For those who love the truth, I recommend to watch videos in KZbin with “Rabbi Tovia Singer” - he explains the Bible very well. m.kzbin.info ,,,,, www.toviasinger.tv

[@nonegiven9727]

Excellent writing brother!!! I've believed this for 25 years that the "he" is NOT antichrist but the "He" is Jesus Christ to the Glory of God , Amen, Amen

[@jaxstudios7670]

@@nonegiven9727 The HOLY SPIRIT has given you great understanding! Praise be to the Glory of the Almighty Father in heaven....amen! In today’s world that is a RARE commodity....guard it with your life! Cause Satan WILL attempt to move you from your steadfastness....

[@randyw.8781]

Daniel 7 as Jesus stated at His trial in the future they would see Him coming on the clouds of heaven and sitting at the right hand of God. “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed Gods Christ is forever. About the Son Ref Isaiah 9:6 Isaiah 9:7 Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be NO END. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and FOREVER. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this.

[@עמיחיאלימלך]

Not "on" claouds of heaven...."with"!

[@robertcummins7739]

Just search Daniel 9 Tovia Singer to watch the perfect objection to this

[@robertbrown7470]

Paul already explained all this, or the Holy Spirit of God working through Paul.

[@victorvernon2507]

Singer knows the Truth, but he is a Judas goat, who continues the same old lies told by the Jewish leaders of Jesus’ day. Singer contorts himself to take our attention from Christ, but Only Jesus Christ fulfills the prophecies.

[@ntkmw8058]

‼️‼️Good News‼️‼️ The gospel, the good news is salvation from hell. And here’s how to get it, the Bible makes it as clear as can be. “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved”, acts 16:31. Words from your mouth don’t even need to be accompanied, just “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved” from hell, it’s this easy!! If you don’t believe it’s this easy, read Matthew 11;30 KJV

[@SpotterVideo]

The 1599 Geneva Bible is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America. What was their understanding of Daniel 9:27? Did they believe the “covenant with the many” in Daniel 9:27 is the “covenant with the many” in Matthew 26:28, which is the New Covenant? Did the angel Gabriel appear to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant? The following comes from the notes of the 1599 Geneva Bible. ……………………………………………………………… Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate. Daniel 9:27 And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles. (b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection. (c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them. ……………………………………………………………………………… During recent years many New Covenant scholars have examined Daniel chapter 9 from a New Covenant perspective. Did Christ fulfill the summary found in Daniel 9:24? Is it about the New Covenant fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary? Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (These two verses are quoted from Jeremiah 31:31-34.) Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. The death of the Messiah is found in Daniel 9:26, and there are only two possible singular antecedents for the word “he” in the next verse. Those antecedents are either Christ or Titus, who was the prince of the people that destroyed the temple during 70 AD. Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Is the “he” in Daniel 9:27 the “Messiah”, or “the prince” of the people that destroyed the city and the sanctuary in verse 26? If we used “the people of the prince” it would not be a singular “he”. Does the author of the Book of Hebrews connect the New Covenant with the Messiah’s death found in Daniel 9:26, in the verse below? Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. (NKJV) Verse 26 also says the Messiah would be cut off “after” the 69 weeks. If I agree to paint your house “after” 69 weeks, it will not be painted until the 70th week, or after. Is there a “gap” of almost 2,000 years between the 69th week and the 70th week, or was it fulfilled during the first century when the Gospel was preached “first” to the Jews? We know there is a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as the Apostle Paul said in the verse below. Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. Can we find a time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” to Daniel’s people during the first century? If we can, we have good evidence that the 70th week of Daniel has already been fulfilled. Did Christ command His disciples to take the Gospel only to Israel in the passage below? Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Mat 10:7 And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' Is the time period when the Gospel was preached “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews in the passage above, confirmed in the passage below? Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. In the passage above Luke confirms the fact that the Gospel of Christ was preached throughout the land of Israel after the baptism which John preached. Here again, we have a text which reveals a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as Paul said in Romans 1:16. Bible scholars have looked at the number of Passover celebrations in the Gospels and have estimated Christ’s earthly ministry to have lasted about three and one half years. Was the Gospel taken “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews for a period of about three and one half years during the period of time revealed in the Gospels? How did Peter address the crowd on the Day of Pentecost when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary? Act 2:36 "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ." We know there was a time period between Calvary and Paul’s conversion, because he held the coats of those who stoned Stephen. Since Pentecost was almost 2 months after Christ died at Calvary, we know a time period of several months may have occurred before Paul came to faith in Christ. What did Paul say below about the time period between his conversion and the day he went to see Peter? Gal 1:14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers. Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: Gal 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus. Gal 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days. In the passage above the Apostle Paul reveals there was a time period of about 3 years between the time of his conversion and the time he went to see Peter. Therefore, we know Paul did not start preaching the Gospel to the Gentiles until at least three years after his conversion. Can we find a time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews, before Paul began preaching the Gospel to the Gentiles? 3 ½ years during the earthly ministry of Christ (Matt. 10:5-7, Acts 10:36-38) Several months between Christ’s death and Paul’s conversion 3 years between Paul’s conversion and the time he went to see Peter. (Galatians 1:14-18) If the time periods above are added up we get a total time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” to Daniel’s people, before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles. Therefore, a New Covenant understanding of Daniel chapter 9 reveals the 70th week of Daniel occurred during the first century. Did the sacrifices cease in the middle of the week, (after about 3 ½ years), when Christ died at Calvary? Why did God rip the temple veil in half at the moment Christ died? Even though the Jews continued to sacrifice animals after Calvary, were those sacrifices accepted by God? The answer to these questions can be found in the Book of Hebrews. Was Christ the final sacrifice for sin in Hebrews 10:16-18, in fulfillment of the New Covenant? Very few modern Christians have ever heard the New Covenant interpretation of Daniel 9:27, which is found in the 1599 Geneva Bible.

[@robertbrown6879]

2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2.

[@joejoel8962]

The book of Ezrah tells us when the decree to build the temple went forth. In the day of the king on the time period indicated by the feet of the statute in Daniel 2.

[@robertbrown6879]

It is my understanding that there are several possibilities.

[@tOPjon1]

For additional reading on this prophesy read: thoughtsandscripture.wordpress.com/2015/07/03/what-are-we-waiting-for/

[@ipaporod]

For those advocating that the Book if Daniel was written in the 2nd century, this is the most moronic and stupid theory I ever heard.Here is the logical explanation why I say this, was Jesus Christ born in the 2nd century?.No he was NOT, didn't Jesus Christ mentioned Daniel the prophet when Jesus was alive?.Yes Jesus did 😅, so if we are to believe Jesus Daniel couldn't have come after the death of Jesus (2nd century AC) if Jesus mentioned him in Matthew 24:30, 26:64!

[@blondboozebaron]

Why don't we use the words Son then? Draw a circle halved once squared twice to the right, draw the deep breath GOOD.

[@ntkmw8058]

‼️‼️Amazing News‼️‼️ The gospel, the good news is salvation from hell. And here’s how to get it, the Bible makes it as clear as can be. “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved”, acts 16:31. Words from your mouth don’t even need to be accompanied, just “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved” from hell, it’s this easy!! If you don’t believe it’s this easy, read Matthew 11;30 KJV

[@seekyah4678]

The messiah has not come yet

[@rakovsky3901]

I love Dr. Brown. So knowledgeable, positive, smart.

[@Braglemaster123]

He’s a Putz

[@mikeyant2445]

Three Facts About Jesus Christ You Need to Know...Before You Refuse His Salvation. 1 The Servant Songs of Isaiah promised that Someone other than Israel was going to die as an atonement for man's sins, and rise from the dead. Isaiah prophesied that while His own people would reject it, Gods salvation would go viral among the Gentiles, with many being forgiven and being made right with God. 2 Daniel prophesied that a worldwide atonement for sin would be connected with the death of an anointed Prince, right before the destruction of Jerusalem, and the 2nd Temple. He also prophesied this would happen during the time of the Roman Empire. 3 At that promised time Jesus Christ came, performing miracles like Moses did, and through His atoning death and resurrection started His Church, through which Gentiles by the millions have come to worship the God of Israel. This is Gods salvation. Please don't miss it.

[@ts8960]

every verse in isaiah 53 each standing on its own can prove that it cannot be about JC but rather its about the jewels.

[@mikeyant2445]

@@ts8960 What about the verses that say the Servant is not Israel?

[@ts8960]

@@mikeyant2445 lol those verses do not exist

[@mikeyant2445]

@@ts8960 Isaiah 49:5-6 KJV And now, saith the Lord that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the Lord, and my God shall be my strength. [6] And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

[@ts8960]

@@mikeyant2445 lol are you making a joke? 49:3 And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified

[@ntkmw8058]

‼️‼️Great News‼️‼️ The gospel, the good news is salvation from hell. And here’s how to get it, the Bible makes it as clear as can be. “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved”, acts 16:31. Words from your mouth don’t even need to be accompanied, just “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved” from hell, it’s this easy!! If you don’t believe it’s this easy, read Matthew 11;30 KJV

[@kaybass520]

The seven years is taken from a misunderstanding of Daniel 9: 27. "And he must keep the covenant in force for the many for one week, and at half of the week he will cause sacrifice and and gift offering to cease." "And upon the wing of disgusting things there will be one causing desolation, and until an extermination the very thing decided upon will go pouring out also upon the one lying desolate." This is the correct analysis of this Scripture: And upon the wing of disgusting things there will be the one causing desolation and until an extermination the very thing decided upon upon will go pouring out also upon the one lying desolate." Daniel 9: 27 In 70 CE the Roman armies placed the Roman Standards in the Temple in Jerusalem prior to the destruction. This was a political symbol of the Roman authority.These Roman Standards were the 'disgusting thing standing in the holy place.' Christ Jesus told the Jews in Matthew 23: 28: "Look! Your house is abandoned to you." Christ must keep the Abrahamic Covenant in force for one prophetic week; to give the Hebrews an opportunity to place faith in Him at the time of His resurrection from the dead. When the seventy weeks were now complete the door opened for gentiles to become Christians beginning with the household of Cornelius, an Italian man.Acts 10: 31. So all foods were declared 'clean' Acts 10: 1 5 because the Jewish Law Covenant had been nailed to a torture stake; completely fulfilled and done away with. [So sacrifice and gift offering were made to cease.]The Christian Covenant was now in place. In modern times 'the disgusting thing causing desolations standing in the holy place' Matthew 24: 15 are political powers deploying missiles under UNSC authority. Yet their authority has already been displaced by Christ arrived in God's Kingdom. Revelation 11: 18, 15. Matthew 24: 14, 30 So this political power is a 'disgusting thing causing desolations' and it is standing in the holy place of God's ruling Kingdom government.

[@Hypnotoad206]

The abomination of desolation is easily seen in Revelation 12... the woman was told to "flee into the wilderness". Antiochus Ephiphanes entered and defiled the Jewish Temple "Hieron"... it was an antitype to the antichrist who sits in the spiritual Christian Temple of all believers "Naos".... the man who sits in the "Universal Church"; the false prophet of Revelation 13. What better name than the "universal church" could there be for the antichrist who "sits himself in the temple of God above all other things called God and calling himself God" 2 Thessalonians 2:3. Antiochus placed his idols and images in the Jewish Temple and desolated the land. Likewise, The pope (false prophet) breathes life into the roman empire with its pagan idolatry and images in the temple of God. He has put masqueraded idolatry in the hearts of many

[@john316loveministry5]

Please read Hebrews 10/14- For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy. This was brought about in AD 33 by THE MESSIAH ( LORD YESHUA MESSIAH) NONE ELSE. This fulfills Dan 9/24 ( 6 conditions). There were 3 decrees. Cyrus, Darius and Artexeres BC 457. Shalom

[@MrArtist1971]

Only problem is Hebrews is NOT scripture. It's a letter and not the holy Torah.

[@john316loveministry5]

@@MrArtist1971 it poses absolutely no problem for me! Any day I would take Hebrews to be of greater value than the Torah. It is the part of the New Testament started by THE LORD JESUS CHRIST the substance whereas the Torah is just the shadow of the substance. The Law and its sacrificial system is a shadow of the substance. The substance is the PRECIOUS LAMB OF GOD SLAIN BEFORE THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE WORLD Read revelation 13/8. Shalom

[@robertbrown6879]

@@MrArtist1971 Unless Jesus was the Messiah in which case it is.

[@robertbrown6879]

This I have a problem with. It does not appear that all of these were fulfilled.

[@robertbrown6879]

@The Hungry Rabbit Podcast How does that prevent the Jews in current day Israel from building a third temple? And wouldn't it be difficult for the son of perdition, the Anti-Christ, to sit in a temple in Jerusalem claiming to be God when there is no temple to sit in? I suspect the prophecies of Scripture will take place just as God has explained, regardless of whether we understand them fully or even agree with them. Daniel 4:35.

[@samau7676]

The Roman Empire did not fall until the XV century in the East and the sacred Roman Empire until the XIX. The Prussian Empire and III Reich were continuations of it so we go to 1945 and soon after the state of Israel was founded which eventually will become the kingdom of God of Daniel 2.... so using Daniel 2 to interpret Daniel 9 will not help you to make it into a Jesus prophecy.

[@Akhil_Chilukapati]

But the Chabad webiste Rashi commentary says it's talking about the King Cyrus . As he was anointed (Isaiah 45:1)

[@robertbrown6879]

And the angel of God, Gabriel, came down to Daniel to tell him what? Maybe this was at a time when Gabriel didn't have much to do so he approaches God and says, "I'm bored, do you have anything for me to do?" And God says yes, let's have some fun and confuse people to no end. Go down to Daniel and make a big deal out of this and you will give him these words. lol

[@ts8960]

indeed, it says in tanakh that cyrus was a moshiach. (messiah) and he is the one in this prophecy

[@johnnybrave7443]

King Cyrus didn't get cut off a.k.a get killed

[@עמיחיאלימלך-כ8ל]

The NT dosn't say that Jesus fullfil Daniel 9(from Mark to Revelation)are Christians today kons somthimg that not even Paul knew?!

[@duke-swtmate4154]

+עמיחי אלימלך That doesn't prove anything... Only because you don't see the NT saying something about the fulfillment of Daniel 9, it is obvious that Jesus is mashiach of Daniel 9 because he came to Jerusalem as a prince in 32 AD BEFORE the destruction of the temple.

[@jaxstudios7670]

@@duke-swtmate4154 The words THE MESSIAH THE PRINCE can only point to one PRINCE and that prince is JESUA. UNLESS AGAIN the Jews believe SOME OTHER PRINCE is their messiah which does explain why they crucified Jesua and chose their prince BARABBAS and screamed WE HAVE NO KING BUT CEASAR!

[@עמיחיאלימלך-כ8ל]

@@jaxstudios7670 Cyrus was God anoited(Isaiah 45)......he is the anoited prince/ruler in Daniel 9;24!

[@jaxstudios7670]

@@עמיחיאלימלך-כ8ל You don't know the word God at all...The whole BIBLE is about the WORD OF GOD...the ONLY name by which we can be saved...And this passage is all about HIM....and HOW I know this because Cyrus was a KING not prince...So that shows you do not know what you are saying....And it's also not about the antichrist because He to is a king...Yet the Messiah the WORD of God at this time was a Prince and ONLY he is able to stop the sacrificing of animals at HIS crucifixion which replaced all sacrifices EVER And in 70AD when this desolation occurred the prince that sacked Jerusalem was prince Titus of the roman army...Fail try again...

[@עמיחיאלימלך-כ8ל]

@@jaxstudios7670 The word in Daniel 9 is Nagid(נגיד)in hebrew...Nagid isn't a prince...Nagid is a RULER!!Or rather, a man carrying a dominant position like a king or a president. Even dr.Brown says in other place that he agree that the first anoited in Daniel 9 isn't have to be Jesus!!and Jesus wasn't a ruler!!

[@psandbergnz]

So Michael Brown acknowledges that he doesn't understand the timeline given in Daniel chapter 9, and can't be clear it counts down to the coming of Jesus. He can only be confident that the 70 weeks of years (= 490 years) terminates with the destruction of the Temple and contains the fulfillment of all Daniel's prophecy within that period. Brown sees no clear timeline pointing directly to Jesus. I agree with him there. The 69 weeks of years and the seven weeks of years have no obvious starting year, and whichever starting year to care to give it, it is only with verbal gymnastics that you can manipulate the coming of Jesus as an historical event to shoehorn Jesus in. Like me, he is amused by the gratuitous evangelical argument that the 69 weeks of years (= 483 years) brings us to the time of Jesus (9.30 to 9.45 mnutes). Brown understands that the six events prophesied in Daniel 9:24 must point to Jesus and are fulfilled on or before the 70th week of years, namely: 1) Transgression will cease. 2) Sin will end. 3) Guilt will be expiated. 4) Everlasting righteousness will be brought in. 5) Vision and prophecy will be sealed up. 6) A holy of holies (or a holy one) will be anointed. The problem with Brown's understanding is that those six events do NOT prophesy Jesus in any coherent way and actually tend to exclude Jesus from the prophecy. The key event in verse 24, which WOULD point to Jesus, is missing: namely faith or belief in messiah. Faith in Jesus is central to Christianity and forgiveness of sin, but we don't find it there! Moreover, transgression and sin did not cease in any way at the time of Jesus (or in the messianic era that Jesus allegedly brought in). People sinned at the time of Jesus just as before. Daniel (or Gabriel) is predicting the arrival of God's kingdom and rule on earth within the 70 weeks of years, when sin would necessarily end, but it just didin't happen! The prophecy is a failure. Note that the expiation of guilt is not associated with blood sacrifice (let alone the death of messiah) in Daniel, and probably means that the suffering experienced by the Jewish people will expiate their sin, as a prelude to the coming of God's kingdom. Jesus did not bring in "everlasting righteousness", and a holy of holies (or holy one) was not anointed. Note that Jesus was not anointed as priest or king/prince or as messiah. The woman anointing Jesus in Luke chapter 7 is not an anointing for a set purpose, but reflects her faith in him. Jesus wasn't anointed as anything (and aoninting is supposed ot be odne by a priest - a Levite). There is a protocoll given in the Old Testament! Vision and prophecy were not sealed up or completed at the time of Jesus either. Christians are still waiting for his return, when they expect him to fulfill messianc prophecy (e.g. world peace,, the in-gathering of the Jews and the construction of the Temple prophesied in Ezekiel etc.). Jesus has NOT FULFILLED A SINGLE MESSIANIC PROPHECY, so we cannot reasonably claim that "vision and prophecy" were sealed up or completed at the time of Jesus. He did not bring in God's kingdom on earth, and even said (allegedly): "My kingdom is not of this earth" (john 18:36), which is an admission (in context) that he did not bring in God's kingdom or everlasting righteousness. In admitting that there is no timeline given in Daniel 9 that clearly points to Jesus' coming to the world, Brown's argument that Daniel chapter 9 is christological collapses! Because there is absolutely no textual evidence that Daniel is pointings to Jesus, you have to already have faith in Jesus, and to keep your "Jesus glasses" firmly on, to believe that it prophies Jesus, The only way that Christians can see Jesus prophesied in the Hebrew scriptures (here and elsewhere) is by wrenching verses out of context (most of them not even written as prophecy!) or by mistranslating the Hebrew. Two examples of mistranslation of the Hebrew text are the claim that Isaiah chapter 7 prophesis the "virgin" birth of Jesus (it does not!) and the mistranslation of Psalm 22, verse 16, where there is no Hebrew word that comes close to "pierced" (the correct translation is "LIKE A LION, they are at my hands and feet", or similar). Furthermore, the context of psalm 22 shows that it is not about Jesus, and it is not even written as a prophecy. It is about king David. Oot of context assertions are a constant problem with Christian apologists, which makes Jews very wary (and weary!) of them.

[@robertbrown6879]

I don't think that was his point. Listen again in context. He's talking to Jews that believe the Old Testament only. Hebrew. In that context, he is saying that their is no question, from that context, that the Messiah had to come before the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. I think that is pretty clear.

[@psandbergnz]

@@robertbrown6879 , so on which week of years did Jesus die, and on which week of years was the temple destroyed? Most evangelicals claim Jesus died on week 69. But this would leave only ONE week of years (=7 years) for the destruction of the temple after him. But, as you said, the temple was destroyed in 70 AD, which is not even close to 7 years after Jesus died (assuming he died in about 30 to 33 AD).

[@robertbrown6879]

@@psandbergnz This is where the problem comes in. The assumption is that the 69 sevens and the 70th seven are consecutive. If you ignore all the passages that have to do with the abomination of desolation and Christ's second coming and the fact that Jesus called the end times the worst time of all time and so forth and so on, then I would agree with or not even bother with anything that anyone would say because they would not have a clue. But you do have a clue, many clues in fact. Why do you not put them together? Point is, there is obviously a gap, a huge gap of centuries between the 69th seven and the 70th seven.

[@robertbrown6879]

@@psandbergnz Anyone that is good at getting to the bottom of things, like a good auditor or a good detective or a good private investigator, does not ignore evidence and especially does not ignore contradictory evidence. Say you are accused of a serious crime. The DA is hot to convict someone. The detectives don't give a damn whether you are innocent or not. They have enough evidence. But they also have evidence you didn't commit the crime. Solution? Leave the evidence out that shows you are innocent. Hence, you are guilty. Is this true? No. But it fits their premise because they want to convict someone. That is their main motive, not getting to the truth. Most of what I listen to regarding end time theories and most comments I read are wrong precisely because they do not put the evidence together or they leave evidence out or they change the evidence to say something it doesn't say. The PRIME example of changing the evidence is 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2. Blows the hell out of the pre-trib rapture theory. So what is the solution? Ignore 2 Thes 2. Change the meaning of it, or just quote the first 1 1/2 sentences (first three verses), ignore the rest of the verses 4 through 12 and call it a day. THEIR theory is still intact, the enemy is defeated. The evidence is destroyed or mutilated to the point that it doesn't mean what it says. The truth loses, the theory wins! I've seen this scenario repeat itself over and over and over again over the past four months. It's ridiculous.

[@psandbergnz]

​@@robertbrown6879 , I have clues from Daniel's text, but they do NOT point coherently to Jesus, as I tried to explain above. Also, the "end times" allegedly prophesied by Jesus (I wrote "allegedly" because he did not write the Gospel accounts - they were written by anonymous authors, who are not identifiable in the Gospel texts) have STILL not occurred. You can see this from Matthew chapter 24 (and Luke 21:32), where the signs are listed. Jesus taught that "all these things" would happen in the generation of his listeners. But this clearly did not happen. So, even after the passage of some 2,000 years, you are still waiting for God's kingdom to arise and Jesus' return (for example, read Matt 24:30). This indicates Jesus (assuming he said those things) misread the signs of his times, and got them wrong. His error is confirmed in Mark 9:1, where he allegedly declares that "there are some standing here" who will not die before the kingdom of God comes with power, or the son of man comes in his kingdom (Matt. 16:28). And indeed according to Revelation, the worst is still to come (so not yet completed fulfilment). You wrote: "The assumption is that the 69 sevens and the 70th seven are consecutive." But if they are not, then what basis do you have for maintaining that _any_ of Daniel's weeks of years are consecutive? So then why do you believe that the "70 weeks of years" present any coherent timeline that you can order chronologically? Your argument lacks consistency. The truth is that evangelicals interfere with Daniel (and the other prophetic passages in the Hebrew scriptures) to adjust the "goal posts", to suit their christological timeline and agenda. But that does not make a persuasive argument. Consistency does.

[@j.b.5420]

🎯thanks for explaining this complex passage👍🏿

[@sonofyahweh8]

The book of Daniel is sealed until the time of the end. Dan. 12: 4 and 9. Dan. 12: 4 says:" many will run to and fro and knowledge in the book of Daniel will increase at the time of the end." Dan. 7: 4. The first beast is The LION with eagles wings. The LION is the British empire and the eagles wings is America at the time of the end. Dan. 7: 5. The bear is Russia . The 3 ribs are 3 nations Russia invades at the time of the end. Ukraine is the first of these 3 ribs. Dan. 7: 6. Is 4 Asian nations. Not in existence yet. These will come into existence at the time of the end. Dan. 7: 7. The FIRST one world order. Not in existence yet and will arise at the time of the end. Dan. 7: 8. The false messiah comes out of the 4TH beast. Dan. 7: 11. The 4TH beast is destroyed FIRST. Dan. 7: 12. The first 3 beasts will be alive for a season and a time LONGER than the 4TH beast. For these scriptures to be fulfilled the 4 beasts of Daniel 7 MUST be alive at the SAME time. The time of the end. Very plain and simple literal scriptures. May Yahweh give you understanding in these salvation scriptures of things to come. Bless you There has never been an Empire in history called " Media- Persia." Daniel lived in the Persian Empire. Dan. 8: 17 tells Us that the RAM and the GOAT fight at the time of the end. Dan. 7: 11. tells us that the 4TH beast dies first. Dan. 7: 12 tells us that the first 3 beasts will be alive for a season and a time LONGER than the 4TH beast. For these scriptures to be fulfilled the 4 Beasts of Daniel 7 MUST be alive at the same time. The time of the end. Dan. 12: 4 and 9. Dan. 8: 20 Is Media and Persia at the time of the end. Persia will unite with Iraq and then unite the middle east under Islam. Persia will go to Yahweh's LAND and put to the sword EVERY man, woman, child and baby Jew in Israel. No survivors. NONE. 10 Million Jews world wide will die. This will cause the GOAT to come from the west. Dan. 8: 5.The GOAT comes across the face of the whole earth. This scripture is literal. The GOAT is the united nations with America leading the WAY. Dan. 8: 8 tells us that America will win the war with Persia and then break into 4 nations. Out of 1 of the 4 nations will come the false messiah. Dan. 8: 9. The false messiah will put America back together again. Rev. 17: 8. The people on the earth will SEE America that was, Is NOT, Yet is. The false messiah will be crowned KING of America. Dan. 8: 21. The false messiah will go to Yahweh's LAND and enter the golden gate to the temple mount showing that he is the King of Israel and the King of the Christians. Ezekiel. 44: 1-3. Yahshua entered the golden gate 2,000 years ago onto the temple mount and presented Himself as the Passover Lamb for inspection. They found no fault in Him. Then the false messiah will be crowned KING of the world. King of Kings. King of 10 Kings. Rev. 13: 1- 5. Then will be fulfilled 2 Thes. 2: 3- 4. This scripture is literal. The false messiah will be Satan's literal genetic son. Rev. 11: 7 tells us that the beast is NOT a human man. The beast is a hybrid human. 2 thirds angel and 1 third human. Satan's son ruled the earth in the Days of Noah. Satan's son will rule the earth for 42 months before the second coming. Yahweh does EVERYTHING twice. My hearts desire is:" Rev. 22: 14. Rev. 21: 1- 4." These scriptures commence at the second coming. rev. 20: 4 and 6. rev. 5: 10. Matt. 5: 5.isa. 2: 3- 4. isa. 11: 6- 9. Isa. 66: 22- 23. Micah 4: 2- 3. These scriptures are fulfilled in the Thousand years. Zeck. 14 is the second coming. Zeck. 14: 4- 5. The great valley is the resting place for Yahshua's BRIDE as the home for the SAINTS during his thousand year reign on the earth made new as king of kings and Lord of lords. Rev. 21: 9- 10. Rev. 21: 2. Gal. 4: 26. Zeck. 14: 9. And Yahweh will be The GREAT KING over all the earth during His Messiah's thousand year reign as king of Kings. Zeck. 14: 16. the nations are still on the earth AFTER the second coming and will go up to the new Jerusalem to keep the feast of tabernacles for the thousand years. Matt. 5: 5. The Meek will inherit the earth made NEW commencing at the second coming. 1 Thes. 4: 15- 17. This is the fulfillment of Tabernacles on the earth at the second coming. 2 peter 3: 10- 13. verse 10. The second coming. verses 11 and 12 Yahweh burns the UNIVERSE. Verse 13 Yahweh creates the NEW heavenS and the NEW earth for His Sons thousand year reign on the earth made new as king of kings. Rev. 20: 4 and 6. Rev. 5: 10. The SAINTS will rule with Yahshua in the NEW Jerusalem on the earth made New commencing at the second coming. Rev. 2: 26- 28. Rev. 2: 1- 4. Yahshua brings His BRIDE with Him at His second coming . The tabernacle of Yahweh is with men and they will be His children and Yahweh will be their God. Isa. 66: 22- 23 and Rev. 21: 1- 4 agree perfectly. Rev. chapters 21 and 22 commence at the second coming and are fulfilled on Judgement day. Rev. 20: 7- 15. Rev. 20: 7- 15 is a period of time of 24 hours. The Last day of this corruptible creation. John 6: 39, 40, 44, 53 and 54. the LAST day of this corruptible creation. Gen. 1 : 1. Yahweh created Time, Space and matter. The first day. Rev. 20: 7- 15. Yahweh will put out of existence this corruptible creation. The Last day. 1 Cor. 2: 9. NOTHING in this corruptible creation is in Yahweh's Everlasting Incorruptible Kingdom. BEFORE Gen 1: 1. There was the everlasting incorruptible Kingdom of Yahweh. AFTER Rev. 20: 7- 15. The Everlasting incorruptible Kingdom of Yahweh will continue. LOOK not to the things of this world as they will all pass away. But LOOK for things not seen. FAITH. May Yahweh give you understanding in these salvation scriptures of things to come. Bless you

[@jaxstudios7670]

raymond lindroth for starters it doesn’t say “many will run to and fro and knowledge in the book of Daniel will increase” its merely states “many will run to and fro and knowledge will be increased”. Don’t add to the words nor take from them. Also Daniel 7 states “the 4th beast is the 4th kingdom upon the earth”. That 4th kingdom is Rome. Scientists have uncovered the gate of Babylon which has a tile mossiac of a lion with eagles wings. Also in the book of Daniel King Nebuchadnezzar was this lion with eagles wings plucked off and made to stand up like a man. Daniel 2. In scripture prophecy surrounds the kingdoms and empires that God brought against his own people and the ancient city of Jerusalem. Babylon would be the first beast in Daniels description of 4 beasts rising up. Babylon captures Jerusalem and took Daniel into captivity as a child. Medo/Persia the bear with one side raised up conquers Babylon, then Greece Alexander the Great conquers medo/Persia and he is described as a leapard with 4 heads and 4 wings of a fowl. This is a description of how FAST Alexander defeated the world empire before it. He died without an heir so his 4 generals split the empire between them. As of now we have 6 heads. Babylon=1 medo Persia=1 Greece =4 so now we have 6 HEADS of the final seven headed beast entity at the very end of days. It was PAGAN ROME who was in power when Christ was born even unto his death. Herod a Roman king tried killing all the children to try to kill Christ as a child and agin he was arrested and tried by the Romans in power at his crucifixion. PILOT WAS A ROMAN GOVERNOR AND JUDGE. This is the 4th kingdom and the 4th dreadful beast that has all the attributes of the first 3 kingdoms that came before it. It had a mouth of a lion, feet as the bear and a leopard like body. Babylon, medo/Persia and Greece. Then PAGAN Rome. Then The tiny horn that comes up on this 4th Roman beast is none other than the papacy. It came from within Rome and was the sun worshipping pagan religion in Rome at the time. In 538ad Justinian the Roman emperor at the time gave his POWER ( crown) and his seat (throne) to the head of this sun worshipping church and the head of this church the POPE became not only the pope but the now emperor of ROME. When’s scripture speaks of these beasts it is because they directly had influence on the people of God the Jews. They all took them captive at one time or another neither Britain nor America has done that Nor was America even a country at this time. It wasn’t even heard of for another 1260 YEARS until 1798. From 538 to 1798 is 1260 YEARS or times time and half a time or 42 months. All time prophecy is a year for a day principle. It is by this long time that we can be sure who during those dark ages persecuted and killed million upon millions of Gods sabbath commandment keeping people by the use of kings and states armies to exact the actual death punishments on the people FOR THIS ENTITY. The Vatican and Roman Catholic Church was dealt a death wound to one of the heads. It has seven heads. One for Babylon, one for medo Persia 4 for Greece and one for itself. That makes 7 heads. It was the PAPAL head that was dealt the deadly wound in 1798 when AMERICA was beginning to rise to power. The French marched into the Vatican and took the pope captive and he died in captivity and the statehood of the Vatican was lost. The Vatican was and was not yet is. That’s the time of the dark ages WAS. the death blow dealt WAS NOT and the reinstatement by Mussolini’ that made it YET WAS. That was the deadly wound dealt ending its STATEHOOD and returning it to just a church without a state or a head of state. See the beast is a church married to the state. There is only one of those on the face of the earth. It’s described as a TINY OR SMALL horn. A HORN IS A POWER either church or state but not a king (lack of a crown on the horn)meaning this entity is small but wields great power and influence over the Kings of the earth. The Vatican is a tiny city. Even the word Vatican means “ CITY OF PROPHECY”. This entity uses a golden cup in her worship. America doesn’t and neither does Britain. Neither is a star and CHURCH combined. AS a matter of fact neither of these empires directly affected Gods people and surely did not take them captive in the days leading up to and after Christ’s deathBut Babylon and the other empires DID directly affect Gods people the Jews during that time period. now America IS the beast of the earth. A place FOUND non inhabited and when it was finally inhabited its church and government was based on a church WITHOUT a pope and a government without a king. Protestantism and republicanism. It started out lamblike and gentle Christlike based on Christian values. But it will eventually speak as the dragon. This symbol is the buffalo and It has two horns like a lambs that are SEPARATED one from the other. The SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. That is America and she will make an image TO the beast. That image is a church married to the state. We can see that happening with the apostate Protestant church JOINING hands with trump and sign a national day of prayer into existence that IS the joining of church and state and the rescinding of the first amendment right to FREEDOM OF RELIGION. America is in the process of doing away with the separation. Alabama just voted for the 10 commandments to be placed in all public schools. Isn’t that the joining of church and state? When the church joins to the state the state will be swayed to make laws FOR THE CHURCH that take away our right to practice religion the way WE SEE FIT because it being forced upon us and when the church dictates to the state what laws to make it becomes deadly and bloodshed follows because the CHURCh rides the state like a person rides a horse. Who’s in control the one being ridden or the one who’s riding? When I had my horse I was the one in control of the horse. Scripture states the WHORE apostate church rides the beast Likewise this will be the same in America. Protestant Churches in America are reaching across the Atlantic Ocean and grasping hands with the papacy. The very entity they protested against in the dark ages and It is forming the image of the beast slowly but surely. America will join church to state and when that happens they WILL force the whole world to do the same. What happens to all the Muslims in America or Buddhists or whatever religion they follow.? Will they have Christianity FORCED upon them? Surely as the nose is on your face this will happen. America will make laws that take away ones freedom to choose their religion or how they practice it. If these commandments are in schools a public state run entity what happens to all the people who choose another religion won’t their children be subjected to only Christianity? Won’t it be forced upon them? And not true Christianity but an apostate Christianity that is opposed to God. When Moses came down from the mount with the 10 commandments they were on two SEPARATE stones. The first stone has all the ways God demands to be worshipped on it and NO MAN can tell you otherwise. And the second tablet is all the civil like laws. Adultery, murder, theft, perjury etc that man has a civil duty to punish for. But not for the first tablet Again that NO MAN may dictate to another individual except God himself. This is a clear cut SEPARATION OF CHIRCH AND STATE modeled on the tablets. Any entity that joins the two is in DIRECT conflict with the word of God and it is this that all the beasts revolve around. The only thing that these modern day nations will have in common outside of the USA will be to have the MARK NAME OR NUMBER OF THE FIRST BEAST FORCED UPON THEM BY THE SECOND BEAST. First beast Roman Church/Vatican Second beast USA. Only the USA has the power and arms to force the rest of the world to follow suit. The kings of the earth all giver their power to the first beast. That includes Russia and France. But they are not the first beast nor are they the second. One can see France doing this now as macron states that Frances official religion will be Catholicism. France was always atheistic in nature up until now. So as France joins to the church today it also will again be the first horn of the 10 horns that have given over their power to the church to be the first to destroy the church when the 10 horns hate the WHORE (the Catholic Church) and burn her with fire in the end. It is the pope who speaks great words against the most high. It is the popes who think to change times and laws and it is the popes who states they are god on earth or Jesus Christ under the veil of flesh. They are called the Holy See. Called infallible. Can forgive sins ext. all these titles belong to God and Jesus Christ not to a MAN. This is the beast of the sea there’s no doubt about that. Not one of these other countries claim these blasphemous things. No only the pope claims to be God on earth therefore this can only be the one and only beast and whore of revelations. The false prophet is America’s apostate Protestant Churches and will be the ones to make the exact image of the beast and force the rest of the world to do so too. Dragon-satan Beast of the sea- Vatican City civil authority Whore of Babylon-Roman church Beast of the earth-America civil authority False prophet-America’s apostate Protestant Church After all didn’t President trump state “ I want to give POWER BACK to the church.” And that he will and it is THAT POWER that will destroy America and the world with her false apostate harlotry.

[@jaxstudios7670]

No the knowledge that increased is not only understanding the book of Daniel but TECHNOLOGY to show us what time period is the end time.

[@jodysephus6922]

Want to go a bit further down that Rabbit hole in Daniel chapter 9? The last 4 chapters in Daniel are actually divided and purposefully intermixed chapters, and what we know as chapters (or parchments as it were) 9,10,11,12 is actually 9/11,10/12 just like that. It is my discovery and i'm plastering it in many of the facebook Bible prophecy groups. What happens Brother Tovia when you take two linear stories and divide them in half then intermix them like that? Think it'll ever read the same? The Matter spoken of in Daniel 9:23 is all about the first and second coming of Jesus Christ, whereas the Vision that it goes on to speak of only has but one option, and that's the vision of Daniel chapter 8 and then repeated in "immediately"in the whole of Daniel chapter 11 ;-)

[@TheBinaryWolf]

Rom.11 explains why Jews continue in theological blindness: they have been given a "spirit of stupor" because the have unwittingly replaced a relationship with God with humanistic traditions...and because they connived to have Rome crucify the Messiah. God describes them as "ever learning but never coming to the knowledge of truth." There is a way that seems right unto man, but the end thereof is death. Anyone who cannot see the Trinity in Zech.12:10 is spiritually blind. And those who fail to recognize Jesus in Is.53 and Dan.9:27 will soon enough answer to God for their false teaching. Beware of these wolves in sheeps' clothes who profess that only scholars can read Scripture. Nay, the Holy Book is intended to be read even by children. Truly, the Bible is best read like a child; for all the cults and heresies have been the product of religious philosophers. Jesus fulfilled the prophecy in Dan.9:27, and no amount of will BS can change this truth.

[@ts8960]

as a jew I investigated ch53 and its beyond obvious that it cannot be about JC but rather its about the Jews. Every verse on its own can prove it even. It is you christians who are blind not me. And you come with me with your corrupted translations and arrogance

[@ntkmw8058]

@@ts8960”he was oppressed and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth” If this is about Israel then “jews” have no business complaining about the holocaust or any kind of exile or genocide they’ve ever underwent. And if this is about Israel, then you are basically saying that the nations atoned for their sins by afflicting Israel. That’s not how atonement works. You don’t commit wickedness against your fellow man and expect to be forgiven. God open your eyes, you spiritually blind man. And the final verse says, “and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors” you didn’t intercede for anybody you liar. And funny enough, verse 9 said “neither was any deceit in his mouth”. You’ve seen the truth, and God is the witness. Be honest to him and follow the truth

[@fukushimaisrevelation2817]

You teachers disappoint me to no end. I hope these bits of data help you figure it out while it still has some merit. The context of the Daniel 9:24-27 is Daniel 8:17 "time of the end." Daniel 9:26 "until the end" Daniel 11:35 "time of the end" Daniel 12:4 "time of the end" The word week in Hebrew can mean 7 days, 7 years, or it can refer to the yearly feast of weeks. On Feast of Weeks 1967 right after the 6 day war, the UN Security Council in resolution 237 called for refugees to be permitted to return so that they could rebuild their lives/homes, a literal fulfillment of the decree of Daniel 9:25 in the mist of one Feast of Weeks. Also notable since 1967 Jerusalem has been rebuilt with a wall the West Bank Barrier very obviously literally fulfilling Daniel 9:25. Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. Are you folks trying to disappoint me? If so you have succeeded in completely disappointing me.

[@Mike-f3z2t]

Shalom! We are in the final 7. Soon the 144000(Remnant Bride), will be sealed. The AC, that wicked prince, is in Israel. He will seek to destroy them. Psalm 119 is a time frame for the end of days. The last 7 letters represent the 70th. Week, 7 year trib. Ayin, first of the 7, means eye, thus behold, and points to Rev.6. No need to rebuild the Temple. He will stand in the Great Synagogue. Here is Wisdom - 80 years - 70 weeks of years - 7 year trib - 49-50. 50 is the final 7. Gen.49-50. Psalm 149-150. 49-50 Penticost Rev. 1-22. Hebrew alephbet 22 letters.

[@soteriology400]

Wow, following basic rules of grammar, it can only be the Messiah. This guy has a phd? Seriously?

[@andystitt3887]

Is it really true the Hebrew of Daniel has a Semicolon that shows two different people are being spoken of?

[@GOODMORNINGICHIGO4]

The original Hebrew text has no Nikkud nor semicolons just letters. I am from Israel speaking Hebrew since birth and if you will let someone read Daniel 9 he will understand that there is no Messiah after the first 7 weeks, only after the 69th week.

[@TheBinaryWolf]

Good hermeneutics dictates that one passage of Scripture--if correctly read--will harmonize with all related passages; to do otherwise is to intimate God is a liar and cannot preserve His Word. Jesus fulfilled the prophecy of Dan.9:27. He declared, "Before Abraham was, I AM." Not I was, am and will be but, I AM. He had no beginning, nor has He and end. These are His credentials for being the Messiah. God manifested Himself in the flesh for the purpose of sacrifice, for God in Spirit cannot die. Only a sinless being can pay for sin and satisfy justice. Those who argue against these fundamental truths are described in Mt.7:21-23. And what a horrible awakening that will be for all the false teachers, Roman Catholics, Muslims and every other apostate faith.

[@nashashbel6922]

​​@@GOODMORNINGICHIGO4 I have noticed also that using atnach doesn't necessarily means disjunction , rather emphasis or clarification. Plus we can at the same time see that there is a " Vav" (and) between 7 weeks and 62 weeks as conjunction connecting the 2 separate weeks to each other . However, if we take the atnach as a disjunction then it took 62 weeks or 434 years to rebuild Jerusalem with moats and walls and city gates which is something impossible. Jerusalem was rebuilt and became a functional town under Nehemia and that didn't take 434 years.

[@ts8960]

@@TheBinaryWolf Jeremiah 17:5 The Lord says, “Cursed is the man who trusts in man, who trusts in the flesh for his strength, and whose heart turns away from the Lord. Psalm 118:8 It is better to trust in the Lord than to trust in man. 1 Samuel 15:29 The Lord is the Eternal One of Israel. He does not lie or change his mind. He is not a man. So he does not change his mind as men do.” Numbers 23:19 ; NKJV God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent. Hosea 11:9 I won’t punish you in my anger. I won’t destroy Israel again. I am God and not man.

[@TheBinaryWolf]

@@ts8960 When you quote Scripture, God Himself speaks.

[@MMAGUY13]

if the decree to rebuild jerusalem came at 444bc and 483 years until the messiah comes that is exactly when christ came. They can debate what it means but look at what happen when christ came it fits what daniel wrote so if this was not saying when christ would come why does it match perfect?

[@drezilla1310]

How do you calculate that? 444BC + 483 comes to 38AD. So you are wrong. It is from 457BC in Ezra and note that Ezra is not in chronological order.

[@MMAGUY13]

@@drezilla1310 The bible counts a year at 360 days so 483 years is really 476 so that bring us to right about the time Christ was being crucified but in any case Christ is right there

[@drezilla1310]

@@MMAGUY13 I don't agree about the years. The proof of Christ's baptism of the Holy Spirit is 27 AD. The reign of Tiberius is dated (not from his sole reign at the death of Augustus) but from the beginning of his joint reign (two years prior to his death in A.D. 12) when Tiberius was given legal equality with Augustus. The 15th year if Tiberius would then correspond to A.D. 27. www.thoughtco.com/tiberius-roman-emperor-121262 in the 15th year of the Roman emperor Tiberius (Luke 3:5).

[@MMAGUY13]

@@drezilla1310 That is fine as long as Christ fulfilled it that is what makes me happy God Bless you

[@drezilla1310]

@@MMAGUY13 Yes sir! God Bless you too! I think I just figured out why counting from 457BC is correct. The reason is that if we use the 365 days for 1 year comes out to the same as the Hebrew calendar. Because the Hebrew calendar is really 354 days but 7 out of every 19 years is a leap year which contains 384 days (an extra month of 30 days). So if you calculate it out it comes up to a difference of like 90 days. In the long run it always comes up about equal. So calculating the years is fine using the regular 365 days.

[@godknows5624]

Why is third temple is not allowed

[@robertbrown6879]

Who is saying this?

[@sningo-zd6ns]

i dont know something is missing on the the theories of this prophecy , for me this prophecy is sealed and we dont have all the information to unfold it

[@robertbrown6879]

Kind of like the Two Witnesses of Rev 13. No one could have realized that the whole world could see them lying dead in the streets of Jerusalem until about the 1960's.

[@kirkspilsbury5059]

Read: "The Graph" - Steve Cochran

[@kirkspilsbury5059]

@@robertbrown6879 The two witnesses are two olive trees and two candlesticks. They not two branches because then they would be two individuals. An olive tree has many branches therefore many people in a specific location ie the olive tree is planted in the ground. It identifies the people. A candlestick is a church as explained to John in Rev 1 by Jesus. Therefore in each location(olive tree) the people of God(candlestick) exist. Therefore the Jews are one witness. One of the two witnesses. They sing the song of Moses as mentioned in Rev 15:3 The other witness, the 2nd of the two witnesses, sing the song of the Lamb as also mentioned in Rev 15:3 So we know that the two witnesses are already here. We also know that they are persecuted for 42 months or 1260 days as mentioned in Rev 11 agreeing with Daniel7 that the saints of the Most High will be given into his hand for a time times and half a time, bringing us to the middle of Daniel's 70th week, the last day, the resurrection, the fulness of the gentiles, judgment day as per John 12:48 , the great day of God Almighty, the day of wrath. Therefore the 1st half of the week is the great sifting or the great tribulation and the 2nd half of the week, also 42 months is the time of wrath bringing us to the 2300th day, the last day of Daniel's 70th week, bringing us to the Millennium reign of Christ on the earth. Armageddon has got to be the climax of God's wrath upon the ungodly nations and those who refuse to obey the gospel.

[@robertbrown6879]

@@kirkspilsbury5059 So Moses and Elijah were two olive trees and candlesticks? Yes, they are two individuals. Who are you listening to?

[@robertbrown6879]

@@kirkspilsbury5059 Are you saying the entire passage of Revelation 11 regarding the Two Witnesses is symbolic or spiritual or just parts of it? If it is just parts of it, which parts? And then how do you know which parts are literal and which parts are spiritual? Maybe it doesn't mean anything and John was high on some kind of drugs? Maybe the passages in the Old Testament about Elijah and Moses are just a bunch of crap to be ignored? And lastly, why should your theory be accepted anyway? Seems like there are holes in it.

[@Standskeleton]

Oh no don't waste your time. Sorry but clue should be how he right off degraded the angels.

[@pepepena1937]

Actually the word *THE* appears in Sefaria as well as Chabad's translations

[@ts8960]

indeed they are in those translations, but the word the is not there, translations dont do word for word , they want to make it flow and easy to read. the annointed one in the verse, not The Annointed one in messianic age. Cyrus is the moshiach in this verse

[@mavericktribe8065]

True messiah Ben David is alive and coming soon to Jerusalem. Hashem wills in due time.

[@robertbrown6879]

Yes, he will return soon.

[@anthonyjohn9000]

The Christians believe that the God's servant in Isaiah 53 is Jesus, but in reality it is not Jesus but Isreal. Actually in reality Jesus never existed. The Christians have changed many commandment and do not follow. Jesus did not fulfill any prophesies. Infact he did not rule like a king, . What he said he did not do. People read the bible on your own, otherwise people like this will always mislead, misquote, mistrancelate. Remember the Christian bible is full of error, corrupted and fabricated. 90% people do not bother to read the bible and depend and what people preach. Do the research, and find out whether the new testament was really God's word or invented by intelligent men, philosophers. This brother is only trying to defend the lie. There is nothing truth in what he says. Jesus was circumcised, why Christians don't, because Christians simplified it with baptism. Even hindus do that. Remember when Romans can change gods law, then they have no fear to change many ways of worshiping God. The new testament is invented by intelligent people and Jesus is the Hero of it. Brothers and sisters since 2000 yrs nobody has understood why the Jewish people rejected Jesus. My answer to this is that JESUS NEVER EXISTED. THE NEW TESTAMENT IS ALL MADE UP BY PICKING VERSES FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT TO MAKE JESUS THE HERO. HUMAN SACRIFICE IS A BARBARIAN ACT. GOD CANNOT BE A BARBARIAN. THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD, PEACE, LOVE HAS NOT BEEN ACCOMPLISHED, IF JESUS WAS THE MESSIAH HE WOULD HAVE COMPLETED THE TASK GIVEN . BUT HE FAILED. WHERE IS KNOWLEDGE OF TORAH and GOD, WHERE IS PEACE, WHERE IS the decendant of KING DAVID , where is the knowledge of God that will flow from Jerusalem, ? Why people are confused, why these prophesies are not fulfilled, this according Christians God's word is to be fulfilled in the messianic age. Where is it , NOTHING IS FULFILLED. THIS MEANS EVERYONE ON THIS EARTH (EXCEPT JEWISH PEOPLE ) ARE IN DARKNESS SINCE 2000 YRS.

[@robertbrown6879]

Stop in the second sentence, that is historically wrong. You lost your argument right there. Please edit your comment so that it has more believability.

[@JordanWallace-nb4id]

your a DEVIL

[@PatriciaBurns]

Seventy Weeks are exactly that, 70 weeks, 490 days which occur prior to the Seventh Trumpet, the ascension.

[@gregdanielson9086]

That is incorrect. The 70 weeks pertain to the 70 shemitah's (7-yr periods; the release; Deut. 15:1-6) that Israel forsook after entering into the Promise Land, which Daniel learned through books of Jeremiah (Dan. 9:2, Jer. 25). These 70 weeks are weeks of years = 490 years. The Shemitah began and ended on Elul 29. Its basic principle is to trust in Him for all our need, which ancient Israel forsook and rebelled against, as they went and establish their own way of doing things (Is. 9: 8-10). The same thing, but different, has occurred with the church, which has turned the gospel into another, which is not another, and deceives many to think they are something they are not by that gospel they believe and teach. Know and understand what the true gospel is, which is hid in Him.

[@herrieb3241]

You can fight and scream all day long about who was this anointed as long as you want. God says straight that no prince shall be idolized. So stop this bs. You are trying to push and play with words, also bending prophecies to fit your narritives. If there was such a specific date, why does your new testament never ever mentions this? Why is it a secret if it is the greatest news of all? Go away please

[@herrieb3241]

Btw, just read further into the next chapter. This king "messiah" is King Cyrus. Just read your bible sir. You're pulling verse picking tricks. Not all people stay lazy, we actually read the bible and see what you have done to innocent peoples destiny that just sits in a church listening and believe every last words dripping with blood over your lips .... those days are gone

[@robertbrown6879]

@@herrieb3241 That is what God sent Gabriel down from heaven to tell Daniel?

[@333BellaLee]

Ramble much?

[@jasonwolfe920]

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[@עמיחיאלימלך]

Daniel 9;24 is not about the messiah or Jesus. Nowhere in the scriptures you see this kind of verse(Daniel 9;24) that speaks about the messiah. The messiah isn't about Daniel 9 24. Nowhere in the scriptures you see a CLEAR!verses that speaks about the messiah that he suppose to "finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy." No...Isaiah 53 dosn't say this things.

[@עמיחיאלימלך]

Pm פיטרוש מיכאל the 1st anoited is Cyrus the great and the 2nd anoited is King Agripa the second,or the last high priest. If someone in the OT is "Cut off"(ניכרת/nichrat) than he isn't or wasn't a good man. You are cutting off whan you sinned in some sins,such as eating a pig or don't fast in Yom Kippur!

[@pm5206]

Your English is bad. Cyrus the Great is Darius the Mede in Daniel. Not Cyrus the Persian which is Cambyses II. The anointed in Daniel 9:25 is Ezra. He reformed the land of Yahudah and the city of Yerushalayim. Artaxerxes I which Josephus calls him Cyrus (Koresh which means shepherd which is a title or surname) in the 20th year gave the decree to Nehemiah rebuild the city walls. That was 445 BCE. 49 years later, Ezra’s reforms were finished and the walls were built. That’s when the 62 sevens (Sabbatical years) are counted. 32 CE is the 62nd Sabbatical year (62nd seven). The closest year after to a Wednesday crucifixion is 34 CE. Now the transgression has not ended yet. However, Moshiach (Yahusha) already came. Otherwise Daniel would be a liar and Scripture has to be completely false. Or the Pharisee religion is false and Scripture is correct which means Yahusha is the Moshiach. Also, eating pig is sin. Eating on Yom Kippur is sin. I observe all of the Torah.

[@עמיחיאלימלך]

Pm פיטרוש מיכאל I'm not an American or English man.

[@pm5206]

Wrong. Cut off means cut off. To die. Doesn’t mean it’s good or bad. It’s neutral. Cut off can have more than one meaning. In this context, Yahusha was not cut off for himself or because he “sinned”. He never sinned. Do you not know Scripture? Isaiah said that Yahusha who is innocent will take the death penalty of Israel breaking the covenant for the whole nation rather than Israel completely being destroyed. That applies to Yahudah also. Because Yahudah is one of the 12 tribes.

[@עמיחיאלימלך]

Pm פיטרוש מיכאל Isaiah, Chapter 45 1 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;(Isaiah 45.) This is Cyrus the great.Cyrus the 2nd,Cyrus the Persian.....the ANOITED prince in Daniel 9....not Ezra!! Darius isn't Cyrus!

[@lexzenis2544]

Dancing on hot coals with alot of kafuffling and babbling. Terrible and unconvincing eisegesis of Daniels scripture. Stay away from apologetics against Christian beliefs next time. You actually made Christian views more believable.

[@mikeizme20021]

How dare you use the Jewish Scriptures to prove jeezuz.

[@GENESIS-3]

Nope! Matthew is written by an unknown writer.- in Greek - around 50 to 55 years after that Jesus was executed by the Romans. .

[@melintangi]

That's a myth believed by many. All the scroll of Matthew we have today with the, for lack of a better word, "first page" or "cover" intact have the word "the gospel according to Mathhew." The same is true for all Gospels. So the gospels were never anonymous.

[@Keyz-pz5xy]

melintangi earliest manuscripts of the gospels are anonymous

[@don26gr]

#Keyz 1776 The ones who use to read the Gospels aka Christians from the very 1st century accepted Matthew, Mark, Luke and John as authors of the Gospels. Since those Christians who lived with them and were taught by them accepted them as the authors why shouldn't we?

[@GENESIS-3]

The Gospels are quoted in the early and mid-second centuries by some authors, but who never identified them as Mt, Mk, Lk, Jh. Justin mentions them about the year 155, but who quotes these books as Memoirs of the Apostles, without naming who he is talking about. Then - for the time - Irenaeus is the one who identify the Gospels by name around the year 180. In other words - the titles of the gospels were put in there on each gospel from that time, - never from the author who actually wrote the original.

[@BenHaMiqra]

What about the Gospel of the Hebrews, written in Hebrew?

[@loej9913]

I'm not even going to watch this. Just the title proves you are a wolf.

[@GENESIS-3]

+LOE J Let´s say Daniel 9: 24-27 was fulfilled before the destruction of the Temple 70 AD. Then one can clearly see the Roman Elite stood behind the NT story to explain "the kingdom of God" as the Roman Empire, based and authorized on Daniel and the rest of the Jewish Bible. The Alexander family (that days Rockefeller) with Vespasianus (God) and Titus (the Son of God) afterwards used Christianity to enhance themselves and cool down all uproar, as they went out to war against all opposition. That´s the simple explanation of why Gods kingdom as prophesied by Jesus in Mt 10:23 and 16:28 never come about and so never was fulfilled.

[@bowrudder899]

+LOE J Way to go, Joe! Cup your hands over your ears and stick your head in the sand.

[@bowrudder899]

+Ulf Malmström You quit reading just at the wrong moment. If you had read just one verse further, you would have seen that Matthew 16:28 is fulfilled in the very next chapter (!), in Matthew 17:1-9.

[@GENESIS-3]

Listen, have you never thought of how Matthew could have composed his story? He was not an eyewitness, as the author of Mt was written in Greek and about as late as about 80-85 C.E., 50-55 years after Jesus execution. Mt was not present in the story in what he writes. He is rather making a story built on both hearsay (oral tradition) and other already written material (like obviously Mark, and probably even the Q, and the M source). He has then gone back to the Septuagint (Greek version of OT), to find prove-texts for his story. A dilemma also is that for his own text he uses not the Hebrew original but the Greek version, as he then want to find confirmations for his Jesusstory and what is being said and done. He finds 11 places that seem to confirm his story, or rather that he builds his story from, so that it looks like a fulfilled prophecy about Jesus. Why not just go and learn what this all means?

[@bowrudder899]

***** Boy, that sure was a long way of saying, "yes, Matthew 16:28 is fulfilled in the very next chapter in Matthew 17:1-9." Matthew was one of the disciples, and if you read Matthew 17:1-9 to the end, you will see how he got the story: Peter, James and John were eye witnesses (v. 9).

[@goober1311]

Daniel 2:44 Seems to Point to Jesus

[@GENESIS-3]

All gospels where titled later by the Church. No one of them says who their respektive author is. The unknown author of Matthew like Luke based his gospel on Mark from earliest 65-.

[@clayfaceross6717]

kook

[@cinesanti7]

You are worshipping he who is neither the Lord nor much less the Messiah! The one true Lord, G-d, Savior, Redeemer, Creator, and Master of the Universe is Hashem (YHWH). If you guys had any sense, you would already realize that not only is Jesus not the true Messiah and not the Lord, he is also the biggest heretic and blasphemer in mankind's existence!

[@duanedahljr1669]

Dr Brown...quack

[@theopylactus1327]

THE ELECTION OF FELIX MANALO AND THE IGLESIA NI CRISTO PROOF OF THE TRUTH # 6 Daniel 9:24-27 Revised Standard Version 24 “Seventy weeks of years are decreed concerning your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place.[a] 25 Know therefore and understand that from the going forth of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with squares and moat, but in a troubled time. 26 And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off, and shall have nothing; DECIPHERED 70 × 7 = 490 7 × 7 = 49 62 × 7 = 434 550 BC - 49 = 501 434 - 29 AD = 405 501 - 405 = 96 96 + 1913 AD = 2009 AD WHERE 550 BC FIRST YEAR OF CYRUS ' RULE WHEN HE ISSUED THE DECREE TO RESTORE AND REBUILD JERUSALEM 29 AD JESUS CHRIST FOUNDED HIS CHURCH 1913 AD FELIX MANALO FOUNDED THE IGLESIA NI CRISTO 2009 AD SON OF MARCO VILLANUEVA MANALO PRONOUNCED AS THE LION OF JUDAH 27 And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week; and for half of the week he shall cause sacrifice and offering to cease; and upon the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.” ONE SEVEN --- FROM THE BIRTH OF ADAM UP TO 3033 AD 4205 BC + 3033 AD = 7,238 7,238 ÷ 2 = 3, 619 4205 BC - 3,619 = 586 BC 7,238 ÷ 7 = 1,034 3033 AD - 1,034 = 1999 AD WHERE 4205 BC BIRTH OF ADAM 586 BC NEBUCHADNEZZAR RAZED JERUSALEM 1999 AD BIRTH OF THE SON OF MARCO VILLANUEVA MANALO 3033 AD