David Bentley Hart on the Intersections of Scripture and Theology

David Bentley Hart is an Eastern Orthodox theologian, philosopher, and patristics scholar. Hart was educated at the University of Maryland, the University of Cambridge and the University of Virginia. He has taught at the University of Virginia, the University of St. Thomas (Minnesota), Duke Divinity School, and Loyola College in Maryland.
Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams described David Bentley Hart as "a theologian of exceptional quality, but also a brilliant stylist."

[@Reason_over_Dogma]

Great video. This gave me some insight as an atheist. I'm not a believer, but there's much we as laymen can learn about religion than just on the surface.

[@sergkapitan2578]

Exactly:))) As ex russian atheist I can only confirm that this guy is brilliant in many areas...But Berdyaev Nicolas is matchless classic on those subjects!!!

[@Satarack]

He's talking about drawing theological points from the text only. Thus the title, "the intersections of scripture and theology." The Bible as a physical book is not just a book of myths, it does also contain history and he isn't denying that. And to boil it down very crudely, he's saying read it in the light of Christ, guided by the holy spirit, and subject your interpretation to the test of the community of the church. That is how to properly draw theology out of the Biblical text.

[@cinnamondan4984]

Well boiled down

[@ElasticGiraffe]

DBH: Casually drops the word "propaedeutic" in a lecture. Doesn't matter how large your vocabulary is. His is larger.

[@vampireducks1622]

I've glad this rich, nuanced hermeneutical tradition within Christianity that Hart speaks of exists - (or existed). The skandalon principle, so to speak, of Origen that Hart refers to, for example, would seem to be very important and necessary for Christian interpretation of the Bible, as otherwise much of it becomes nonsense and some of it really quite appalling (such as the tales butchery and genocide).

[@joachim847]

James Spader. I figured it out; DBH sounds like James Spader.

[@micahmatthew7104]

Omg youre right

[@garciacentral]

That’s good, but I’m thinking he sounds more like William Shatner.

[@ComradeAgopian]

Outstanding vid ObjectiveBob . My thanks for posting it .

[@cinnamondan4984]

This is AMAZING

[@williamkuevogah5112]

_Interesting_ , _informative_ .

[@rocoreb]

well done, objectivebob. subbed

[@deadedith]

Is there a transcription of this talk? A number of people would like to have a printed copy, paper or digital.

[@Bigfatty1]

ObjectiveBob - Do you know if this lecture has been released in written form? Journal, blog, etc?

[@sergkapitan2578]

Read also Nicolas Berdyaev "The destiny of man",very deep...

[@prometheusjones6580]

I would love to read poetry about how to use the optative.

[@MikeJunior94]

40:45 does anybody know where he got this quote from? Which of Origens works was it?

[@joelkelly4154]

I've watched this lecture several times, but try as I might I can't find much written stuff presenting this view. Does anyone know any good resources?

[@joachim847]

I can't remember whether he mentions this in the talk, but _The Life of Moses_ by Saint Gregory of Nyssa is a brick for smashing modernist habits of reading the bible -- a great example of what he's describing.

[@prometheusjones6580]

De Lubac's "Medieval Exegesis" might be a good place to start.

[@sambamstewart]

Does anyone know which of Hart's books covers the material he is lecturing on here?

[@sambamstewart]

Thanks aegeanking!

[@kirkafur3]

Sam Stewart There is no response is deleted. What book did he recommend to you here?

[@alyoshaty8823]

@@sambamstewart Which book was it?

[@HagiaSophia1952]

From 18:15 you absolutely nail the point I have been trying to get across to my 'scriptural literalist' brethren-in-Christ for years on KZbin. They treat, and read, our Christian scriptures in exactly the same way that a devout Muslim treats, and reads, his Koran: and the outcomes are just as cruelly ludicrous, in both instances. Yet, whereas Muslims are requyired to read their texts that way (see Koran: The House of Imran: vv5ff) there is no such 'internal' requirement within the Christian scriptures. Sure, they are regarded as "God-breathed" in places: but what does that mean in the context of documents compiled by a plethora of authors, editors and redactors over four-and-a-half thousand years? At what date did the "breath-of-God" enter them? I have just 'discovered' DBH thanks to a post on the Church of England 'IRREVEREND' KZbin site; and am so grateful for that recommendation.

[@seanquigley2748]

Where are the Oregin quotes from?

[@bman5257]

“And who is found so ignorant as to suppose that God, as if He had been a husbandman, planted trees in paradise, in Eden towards the east, and a tree of life in it, i.e., a visible and palpable tree of wood, so that anyone eating of it with bodily teeth should obtain life, and, eating again of another tree, should come to the knowledge of good and evil? No one, I think, can doubt that the statement that God walked in the afternoon in paradise, and that Adam lay hid under a tree, is related figuratively in Scripture, that some mystical meaning may be indicated by it.” On the First Principles 4.16

[@cosmicliturgy]

BecomingMike I think it's De Principiis IV,3,1.

[@user-cz8gi2om3n]

How does he he think Augustine got Paul wrong if there's no one correct interpretation of scripture and truth is determined by the legacy of the tradition? Genuinely curious.

[@bman5257]

That’s a good question, but there is a difference between not determining the meaning of the text to only the original authors’ intention and for scripture to remain inspired even when the human author’s intention is incorrect, AND yet that doesn’t negate the fact that Paul as a human author really did have intentions and claims being made in his epistle, and the Augustinian claim of what Paul was claiming was not what Paul was claiming.

[@bman5257]

But you would be right that one from Hart’s view could not argue that Augustinianism is false merely because that wasn’t Paul’s original intent. He must use the other factors that go into interpretation beyond original human author intent.

[@user-cz8gi2om3n]

@@bman5257 the criteria he seems to cite is the legacy of the church as an institution, which seems to side Augustine for the most part. The only alternative I can think of is that allegory is method only for narrative genre in the text, but not for discourse as in Paul's letters.

[@bman5257]

@@user-cz8gi2om3n Western theology sided with Augustine.

[@nimilshah6689]

26:00

[@rationalsceptic7634]

Another Self Deluded Apologist who never checks his sources which are founded on lies and Myths

[@joelkelly4154]

OK boomer

[@fdg2438]

Why don’t you go and play elsewhere?😂😂😂

[@rationalsceptic7634]

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[@fdg2438]

Sceptical Scientist I am not responsible for your unhappy life.

[@rationalsceptic7634]

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