Oblivion - Character Builds: The Pure Thief (2019 Class Guide)

[@MythicDwellers]

Hope you all enjoy this build! I tried my best to explain how to level in oblivion so newer player who don't already know can understand how. How was my explanation on this topic? should i leave this out of future builds?! If you want to contact me directly or get up-to-date information on my upcoming videos, follow me on twitter @MythicDwellers twitter.com/MythicDwellers

[@numax434]

Nice you uploaded again :D

[@randyurban6636]

I’m glad you’re back it was TOO long

[@joesphmorningstar1886]

Please do a pure warrior build but enchanting is allowed

[@MythicDwellers]

@@joesphmorningstar1886 So you want a pure warrior build with clothing enchantments like in this build?

[@MizanQistina]

@@MythicDwellers Pure Warrior with already existing Oblivion Warrior class Actually all the classes are pure already, what so called players own "pure build" are mostly "Adventurer" class

[@jokig2267]

I like how well made these videos are

[@MythicDwellers]

Thank you!

[@merritt2014]

One thing I'd recommend though is just downloading one of those automatic +5 level up modifier mods or the realistic leveling mod for the game so that way you can just level up by playing as a Thief and not have to worry about tedious grinding/micromanagement and taking forever to level up.

[@Promark1980]

The micromanagement is because players are min maxing a single-player game. Efficient leveling wasn't Bethesds intention so I just ignore it.

[@leftjabrighthook]

Can’t on Xbox.

[@Humant-sh4tz]

Loved it, it's hard to find Oblivion Build Guides at this quality

[@MythicDwellers]

Thank you!

[@mohamedmaatougui2469]

Great video, but if you dont want to be com pletely broken with chameleon i advise using the morag tong armor, its a super cool set, but it requires owning the mehrunes razor dlc It fortifies every stat and skill a thief uses aswell as giving resistance to magic and normal weapons and feather and detect life, it also uses the model of the leather armor for gauntlets, boots, cuirass and greaves, while using the model for a black cowl for the helm, giving it an amazing aesthetic for thieves

[@foxfox3004]

I would love to see you do a nightblade build, sneaky assassin with destruction

[@MythicDwellers]

Ill add it to my list of todo videos!

[@enclaveleader1789]

It’s very hard because destruction is very alerting too any npc, and it is very hard to pull off unless you have a overpowered spell.

[@Ser_Locke]

Yes! I've been waiting on this

[@neonsolace2748]

I legitimately tought that this is was a new autism-cat video

[@MythicDwellers]

Was it a pleasant surprise when you realized it wasn't?

[@neonsolace2748]

@@MythicDwellers of course your videos are awsome luv your guides and stuff they kinda brought me back to oblivion

[@MythicDwellers]

@@neonsolace2748 Thats AWESOME to hear! Thank you!

[@memecathar1263]

What the heck is an autism-cat video? I am laughing my arse off at the idea. Please explain this to me?

[@RenovatioPS]

Good to see you are back! Awesome videos mate. Deserves more attention... Keep it up!

[@dispendiousthegreat9570]

Awesome! I really wanted a thief build!

[@nia.d33]

Bouta start a fresh save in 2021 , oblivion just holds a special nostalgic place in my heart.

[@stankobarabata2406]

For leveling, I HIGHLY recommend the attribute fix mod. It basically gives +5 on ANY attribute which governs a skill you raised that level. It removes the need to play optimally so as to not get fucked by the ridiculous scale, and actually make high difficulty runs passable without minmaxing to the absolute extreme. It lets you play the game the way you want without needing to meticulously raise the exact skills that will give +5 on attributes you want to raise that level. Kind of like Skyrim, but this system is way better with the fix implemented, since it's more detailed.

[@ImCodyReyna]

Is this a steam add on? If not, where do you find this fix?

[@tresvantehaynes9453]

Im glad to see your back with more builds. Please keep up the builds👏👏👏

[@Azreal_416]

you're voice and explanations are great ! makes me wanna binge play this again , bro I've only seen a few vids been an oblivion fan foreversince 2006 .

[@Azreal_416]

I started a new file last week. argonian magic build.

[@MythicDwellers]

Hows it going!?

[@nathankelly55]

Awesome video man! Keep em coming!

[@MythicDwellers]

Thank you!

[@Josh_Ford-Zeus]

Nice Video🌚 I only play Khajiit in Oblivion and Skyrim is the best Race for my Playstyle

[@MythicDwellers]

Khajiit are one of my favorite races!

[@neonsolace2748]

Same haha

[@clavesseptem7223]

Same. The Khajiit is my #1 race. :)

[@leandroantunes2044]

love the guide, I've been following your instructions, however, I'm playing with a thief using illusion to help me in the fights with paralyze/calm/dispel/rally spells

[@MizanQistina]

The only important attribute to get +5 is Endurance, others not so much, +2 or +3 is fine because unlike Endurance health points, they don't have any "carry over" points each level up

[@joaogabrielpeixotorodrigue5128]

so if i want to casually play oblivion and not get the leveling problem i should only really care about +5 endurance?

[@MizanQistina]

@@joaogabrielpeixotorodrigue5128 Yes, because health (gained each level ups) = Endurance ÷ 10, so the faster you get 100 Endurance, the faster you get the maximum health points for each level ups afterwards. Others will eventually maximized at any time, so it doesn't matter how long you reach 100 for each of them.

[@joaogabrielpeixotorodrigue5128]

@@MizanQistina i am scared of leveling like 3+3+5(endurance) and somehow get overleveled by a skelly archer boi

[@TheDaxter11]

I haven't played oblivion yet, but after recently finding out about touch spells I feel like a stealth build that uses the touch spells as weapons (providing they can do a decent amount of damage for sneak and don't just barely do anything while getting you caught all the time) would be real fun and interesting.

[@danielwee449]

Hey man keep these videos up the quality improves every time

[@stal2496]

Nice! Its very similiar to my last save

[@matthewcrooks29]

Hey mythic glad to see you back and about making vids for oblivion again and hopefully you will.continue doing so because your vids helped me a bunch to.find cool and interesting mods for oblivion. I just started replaying it a few weeks back and wanted to put some more mods on maybe you could.help me with that lol

[@MythicDwellers]

Ill definitely make another mod showcase video! No promises on when it will be released though.

[@StraitShot]

Still watching it 3 years later. Getting ready for Starfield

[@StraitShot]

Starfield made me appreciate Oblivion so much more

[@-J-man777]

I loved your pure mage video, I’m looking forward to watching this one!

[@MythicDwellers]

Let me know what you think!

[@-J-man777]

Mythic Dwellers well done! I think you did a great job with this build, and I cannot wait to try it in my own game! It’ll be a good change of pace for my typical warrior builds!

[@MythicDwellers]

Thank you! im glad you liked it!

[@TheRhinog24]

Do you guys still play Oblivion now? I really want to play through it again but I'm scared I won't be able to see past the now dated graphics.

[@FuryousD]

for major skills i would suggest Blunt or hand to hand for Strength, Armorer for Endurance, and of the 3 Speed skills since u will be using all 3 allot but Light armour is my pick since u will probably use it the least of the 3, Security or Marksman (depending on weather u will be using a bow, if u wont then Marksman) for agility, Mercantile (or Illusion if u aren't going to be using that at all) for personality, Mysticism for Intelligence since thief's don't use that and Destruction for Willpower.

[@Blagraite]

Damm, this video is perfect, much better than a lot of skyrim videos, I love oblivion, I'm a warrior guy, I hope you make a video guiding one 😁

[@Citizen_JV]

Nixe Set Up and Instructive Video. This has helped me a lot!!

[@MausBastion]

I usually play as a breton paladin, with restoration, heavy armor and blunt as main skills

[@soulesssantos6x608]

Khajit has builds if you have coin.

[@ankthestar]

I’ve never played any scrolls game other than this one and I never tried to beat the game but I do like stealing so thanks for this

[@natehaskey9300]

FINALLY

[@delet3999]

I dont know if you are going to keep up with the series but, can we get a pure summoner build?

[@magaman49]

Hey you're back!

[@MythicDwellers]

Yes i am!

[@rebecafmoda]

I started playing Oblivion recently and I'm really happy that I'm doing right as a Khajiit Thief 😂 but with those tips about leveling up and getting those items, i'm sure i'll get even more better. So thank you a lot for the amazing explanation and, please, keep going :)

[@thebigbananajama]

Def would like a good melee build. That or a race specific build for a Nord.

[@YellowKing563]

If you ever come back to this channel, please make a monk build

[@randyurban6636]

WOW. Very good as always great quality and a great build. I’m gonna have to put my assassin on hold (Thanks for showing me how to get the black hand robes ❤️❤️) on hold for this build. Think I might switch marksman with security because I won’t use swords as often as I would a bow.

[@MythicDwellers]

Let me know how it goes!

[@nikolasfaraday9934]

Love this video I will try this but more as an assassin instead of a thief. I would love for you to make a knight or paladin build at some point.

[@MythicDwellers]

I'll throw it in my list of ideas!

[@tomekk503]

Can you show how to build a perfect Elven, fast quick arrow, close combat light.

[@yarr_bro]

That Halo music threw me off in a TES video… Not complaining though, thanks for the guide

[@aidendouglas9445]

Oblivion vid with halo music both my fav games.

[@clavesseptem7223]

I wonder, is a stealth-mage sort of build possible in Oblivion? If so, I'd love to see how it's done. :)

[@Frendlu]

Sthealth with magic doesn't mix very well at Oblivion because magic does a noisi effect that all your enemies can hear. The only exception are ilussion and maybe, conjuration.

[@WastedPot]

Classic Halo music hits different. Every time.

[@stormcrow3642]

Great thanks

[@CreativeUsernameHere-r1k]

Good to see build for oblivion but most can be solved whit super broken enchanted gear... Just run whit a more than 100% chameleon magical armor... In my first playtrough i had a madness set of "sneak" as I needed something op at the end...to play trough the sneaky factions...

[@jimfromdiscord.8904]

Witsplinter is pretty cool

[@hibarikyoya854]

I'd like to see either a battlemage crusader or spellsword if possible build :3 ty.

[@Kooq5]

For some reason I find the leveling mechanic difficult to understand. I think I'll watch your guide. Thanks

[@jmg4208]

I might over done my efficiebt lvling. My lvl 1 has already 50+ in all minor skill..

[@eduardovaldes3643]

Very nice video. Thank you. I have a couple of questions... Why do you choose Armorer for Endurance? Wouldn't Heavy Armor be the one skill from that attribute we'll be using less as future thieves? And the other... You choose Marksmanship for Agility. I would like to become an assassin, and in my trial version of an assassin Khajit, I discovered that I am very into bows (first time playing Oblivion) and I am doubting between Security and Sneak for Agility as Major Skill. I don't know which one I'll be using less, nor which one is harder to level up... What would you recommend?

[@MythicDwellers]

I chose Armorer for endurance because its easier to control the leveling in my opinion. If you ever need to repair something because your weapon is invaluable then you can pay a blacksmith to do it. This guarantees that armorer will only level when you want it to. Now leveling heavy armor is significantly harder because you will inadvertently level other skills. Ex) Conjuring up something to attack you (leveling conjuration). Letting an animal attack you requiring you to heal (leveling Restoration or Alchemy (If you make potions)). You could buy healing potions (Leveling mercantile) and in my opinion a waste of healing potions and gold. I Chose Marksman so that you can naturally level since using bows as a thief or assassin is very useful. If you want to switch it because you want to use bows exclusively, then security is the better choice. Sneak can be as uncontrollable to level as acrobatics or athletics. Just remember that leveling your major skills is required to level up. Having the most control over them will provide you with the best increases when you level.

[@eduardovaldes3643]

@@MythicDwellers I forgot for a moment that leveling the major skills is needed to level up, haha. Thanks for your answer, I will follow your advise.

[@eduardovaldes3643]

Hey man. I am trying efficient leveling, following your advise. I've just leveled up and something came up. I added 5 points to endurance, speed and agility, but both my speed and agility appear now in red, and they don't have those 5 extra points. Why did this happen? What can I do to solve it?

[@MythicDwellers]

Sounds like you've fought a creature that has a damage attribute effect. It sounds like you have Helljoint disease; it can be caught while fighting Wolves and Zombies. Go to any chapel and pray at one of the alters, that should fix it. Alternatively you could create/buy a cure Disease potion.

[@eduardovaldes3643]

@@MythicDwellers Yes. It was fighting a wolf. It appeared in the screen that I caught something. It didn't have an immediate effect on anything so I forgot about it. Thanks a lot.

[@Alleycat-b]

@Mythic Dwellers what if I'm a thief that uses marksmen and light armor

[@lolegaia]

It's been 2 years ;-; waiting for the thief skill leveling

[@truecountry8915]

Been having fun with this build and been using bow only but for some reason I can't seem to level up. Went through 2 factions before I hit 2. Am I missing something?

[@thelonesomedrifter5884]

Can you do a battle mage?

[@tommy_seky]

If I understand this correctly, efficient leveling is only good for the late game, because of the level cap, so you end up with the higher attributes. However is there any advantage for the early and mid game? I can't see any. Because after a certain amount of time you end up with the same value of attributes but with different level, which is useless? Moreover you will level your skills that you actually NEED slower. Am I right? I am newbie. Thanks.

[@cameronbarnes4216]

What are you playing oblivion on looks good

[@jacobtb1]

great quality vid

[@rickyboughen]

put illusion magic up to 75 then buy the invisibility spell from raminus polus there you have it best thief in the whole of cyrodiil

[@kodywest8732]

You should make more videos, more often. GG

[@bigbrungus]

Anyone know what body replacer mod he's using for the khajiit? Thinking about playing through the game with one and this looks really nice

[@danielrossa5070]

vampire build please

[@MythicDwellers]

Ooo very creative idea! Ill add it to my video list!

[@TheGamerQuest100]

I am looking forward for that

[@marktomlin5818]

so say i wanna increase my endurance i level my heavy armor which is my minor skill 10 times and to increase agility i increase my sneak which is my major skill 5 times i play an argonian thief

[@forthegnomes6342]

Pure warrior

[@dragopro4034]

Agent Guide?

[@NoNo-yu7ed]

I’m just confused at why you put marksman on a major , wouldn’t you be using that one a lot as a thief?

[@sketty1386]

Super late, marksman is one of the longest skill grind. The 40 % boost helps, but it’s still a pain after 75. It won’t level as fast as you would think lol

[@Midnight11786]

What is so bad about leveling your character too soon? Can somebody please explain this to me?

[@leftjabrighthook]

Literally hundreds of vids on YT about the subject. I recommend Old Knight’s.

[@FuryousD]

light armour seems out of place if u want skills that u aren't using since a theif uses light armour on the regular so it would be a waste wouldn't it? EDIT: after looking up which major skills affect speed i get why light armour would be chosen sin the other 2 are used way more than light armour. my question now is though does it really matter what major skills u pick? since level doesn't affect skills and makes the game harder the higher u level up.

[@haydnwalker891]

Hi! Great videos! I'm really looking to get into efficient leveling in oblivion, but I have a question. Why choose light armour for speed? Is it just because it is easier to choose when to level up rather than acrobatics and athletics?

[@margaretthatcherironlady1f400]

I assume by the name that you mean "Inbread Thief"

[@chubbyman2564]

When should i 100 my sneak (minor skill), should i wait until i have 100 agi?

[@slmnsd6186]

a pure heavy warrior (blunt) i would like to see that

[@fanficlover]

Wait, as a thief build why are you putting light armor into the major skills? Isn't that something you'd use often as a thief? Wouldn't heavy armor be better?

[@leftjabrighthook]

Came here for same question. 3 years later and no answer.

[@opirohfi2267]

i need build mage. regue. and warrior mercenary wich skill i need in mage regue and warrior sugesti

[@delet3999]

What set are you running exactly?

[@Marduk99-1]

I must've watched at least 15 videos on "efficient leveling" but I still don't see why it isn't better to just make all the skills you would use as major skills so they level up faster, making you better at those skills (which are pretty much the only skills your class will use). Why intentionally make your character so much weaker?

[@Sanguivore]

Ironically, Oblivion’s default leveling system actually makes your character weaker if you level your Major Skills faster. I’m sure someone else out there can explain it much better than I, but suffice to say that the vanilla game’s leveling system was not very well-implemented.

[@Marduk99-1]

@@Sanguivore oh alright, well thanks for the extra info anyways.

[@cageking1762]

@@Marduk99-1 I know this comment is hella old but basically if you level up your major skills too fast then you won't have +5 attribute points when you level up. (this is because you will hit a new level before you have leveled enough different skills to get the +5 attribute points) If the skills you use the most are part of your major skills, then you will run into this problem. This is only really a big problem on hard difficulties but it can completely kill your save because all the enemies will be stronger than you. This is because your attributes will generally be a lot lower then they should.

[@wtfunk1875]

Battle mage?

[@piecquoro5910]

kinda weird how i got into Oblivion because being in quarantine is boring

[@NightfallShadow]

I like argonians best

[@marck9798]

Halo music in the background

[@Lloyd_Brown]

Gotta love that aoe2 music

[@adamalmighty5064]

Sneak is king in Elder Scrolls games.

[@CreativeUsernameHere-r1k]

Wow it's already 5 months old... but how can you survive whit those ugly water textures?

[@archpigeon]

Your attribute values are wrong, 1 skill point= +2 attribute points 3 skill points = + 3 6 points = +4 10 points are needed for +5

[@Promark1980]

Which accent is this?

[@pj5403]

So I'm going to turn this into a character I made up that will never happen by any means. So its this but their a vampire. And some other things

[@blackheartgaming6121]

THUNDER CATS HHHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol

[@jackfee7894]

a shadow scale

[@jeffersonkohanoski3226]

Achei muito boa a tua construção. Mas daria certo com outra raça?tipo wood elf?

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

This is not a Thief at all. It's a min-max exploit. {:o:O:}

[@faustomanuelorieta]

really dragging, reeaaally dragging the explanation for the choice of race. gotta reach those 10 minutes huh

[@niccolosacchi8213]

Micromanagement and years to level up make me hate min maxing levels. Just play the fucking game, choose the major skills based on what your character is good at and you will end up at high levels having a strong character anyways. The min maxing levels shit is useless unless you play at max difficulty, which is honestly the worst thing ever, given that already at normal difficulty some enemies take hours to die.

[@leftjabrighthook]

Literally have to use a pen and paper also. 100% agree, I’m majoring in real thief skills and having a blast.

[@fabiangarcia1790]

Read The Whole Thing if You Want My Not So Expert Opinion On Playing This Build And How It Felt For Me So dude great job on explaining the whole leveling thing in the game But just wanted to tell anyone thinking of trying this build in my personal opinion it was to hard to level up because since I was always trying to be a sneaky thief and had to use a bow it took a hell of a long time to level up my marksmanship to actually level up in the game now I don’t know if it’s supposed to be easier if you use those magic skills I’m not much of a wizard and I didn’t really try blunt that much because it’s not a great weapon for a thief and not much thieves use destruction or I’m guessing conjuration because they aren’t the sneakiest attacks and armorer was also pretty hard to level up as I was a thief and wasn’t really taking that much damage but I played for three days and I had finished both the thieves guild quest line and the Arena quest line and I was in the dead drop part of the Dark Brotherhood and I only got to level 5 now I try not to use a lot of money as a thief because I try to save it up for the most important weapons and armors later in the game but if you want you can level easier by using trainers but yeah so the worst thing about not being able to level up was I couldn’t do the shrine missions for the Skeleton Key and the Ring of Khajiti plus the weapons recommend for the build were best at level 20 meaning I had extremely weak weapons and armor so that’s just my not so expert opinion while I was trying out the build after the three days I decided to restart because even though I wasn’t gonna level up as efficiently I was gonna level up oh yeah also light armor not so easy to level when the whole point is not getting noticed or touched. Sorry for no grammar skills

[@Rang3r0bi]

Cutie :*

[@MythicDwellers]

♥

[@corseeis482]

You think you can do a magic swordsman build

[@MythicDwellers]

Like a battle mage?