OCG Banlist hits HARD! But... (July 1st, 2024)

OCG Banlist announced for JULY 1st, 2024!
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[@Dusk471]

Beatrice is probably more of a "we are gonna ban this soon enjoy it while it last"

[@Konamiagent]

"Ok gentlemen we will roll to decide how much we will hit snake-eyes" Snake eyes

[@cybzer0560]

I swear, OCG is funny sometimes. "We're going to limit cards that everyone only played 1 anyway." lol

[@joanaguayoplanell4912]

PLAY THE CORRECT DAMN RATIO!

[@r3zaful]

I mean dragun was unbanned during april fools banlist That beatrice limit is the exact same thing a konami way to say "yes sure, enjoy it while it last, go crazy next 4 months but dont complain if we ban it next banlist"

[@deadlineuniverse3189]

Beatrice was something people could run 2 off, which was actually ideal if you where playing anything that had “make Bea turbo” as main or side quest, barring you got the space.

[@nagito6628]

*that TCG players played 1 of

[@hoangmang6178]

Beatrice is limited in TCG as well bro

[@musiyevonchilla6769]

So Catapult Turtle is the 2nd example of "errata were BS" for me after Imperial Order

[@otangakudyokeman7124]

yes and no catapult never was banned, it got an errata before anyone pullin gthe shennanigans with it lol its a first that a card that got an errata without getting banned, to get banned and the second card with an errata to be banned rescue cat will follow soon

[@musiyevonchilla6769]

@@otangakudyokeman7124 and what did the errata accomplish in the end? Right, absolutely nothing bc it got banned anyway. I know it got errata'd bc wothout that the turtle would've been banned a long time ago. Also not sure how good Rescue Cat is, but if Konami ban it too, then it will be the 3rd example

[@otangakudyokeman7124]

@@musiyevonchilla6769 yeh but ANY other card that got errata is SHIT.

[@xatuyou8045]

Reinforcement of the army isn't once per turn so you're not hurt if you draw two. If you draw both Bonfires...you get a card you can discard unless the activation is negated.

[@Lithium2300]

I meant limited

[@dewanegara8333]

Beatrice to 1 is basically konami jp way of saying : we know this card is problematic, so we gonna give you warning that if this card continue to be meta, we gonna ban it next banlist.

[@zzZDarKCroWZzz]

They did the same to vfd.

[@deathKkid]

​@@zzZDarKCroWZzz with VFD it makes more sense, since you could use the first to stop nib and make the second anyways if you do get nibbed. Also good into gamma and imperm, which were rampant

[@Justavietnamesefellow-ef4xq]

@@deathKkidwhat deck can even get two Rank 9 in a first turn?

[@N12015]

@@Justavietnamesefellow-ef4xq Virtual world. They're the reason the card got banned.

[@Justavietnamesefellow-ef4xq]

@@N12015 i get it that virtual world easy access to rank 9 made the card busted but I haven't seen any combo where they can end on 2 vfds.

[@Al-tanin]

I don't know what you expected people. This is the banlist before worlds, the percentages of decks in the last report doesn't even have a deck over 20% of representation, this means they don't need big hits for worlds, and will do them around September.

[@admontblanc]

Not only that there are always cards waiting to be released in TCG and they always avoid hitting stuff that is too recent.

[@deathKkid]

Yeah, logically it make sense to not change too much because of worlds and all, doesn't change that the ocg format is super toxic with the handtrap war running rampant.

[@Al-tanin]

@@admontblanc yeah i have already read someone complain that fiendsmith wasn't hit.

[@Al-tanin]

@@deathKkid the solution is not hitting HTs. We have so many that people will just replace them. The solution is making 1-card combo decks less widespread

[@deathKkid]

​​​@@Al-tanin I agree, I do think some hts are overtuned *cough* maxx c *cough* . But most HTs in general are fine. I think the issues are 1 card combos and that snake eyes or tenpai dragons gameplan, doesnt really change too much if you dont completely stop them with hts. Like with tenpai, ashing the fieldspell doesnt matter if they had paidra already in hand, it would still be an otk, ash on SE ash doesnt matter if they had any other extender the endboard is mostly the same.

[@yserareborn]

…The field spell to one is back breaking for Tenpai. Their damage thresholds plummet if the field spell is removed and they don’t have enough gas for the long game. Tenpai will probably fall off completely with this hit.

[@Jacktherippa84]

GOOD

[@yveslumiere9432]

The field spell hit is very good, it's insane seeing people saying oh it just makes the game more gambly wether they have it or not. No it makes removal on it have ACTUAL impact, Sangen Summoning doesn't have a once per turn activation clause like some other Field spells, because of this using removal on it BEFORE the limit is gambly because they can just activate another one. Now removal on it us actual high impact.

[@milklander847]

Catapult Turtle😂

[@dealerG]

Tachyon FTK.

[@AG30]

It had a FTK with any Horus plus numerous dragon. If you didn’t draw imperm or double veiler it was FTK

[@dealerG]

For anyone who doesn't know, Catapult Turtle got banned because of the Tachyon FTK.

[@yveslumiere9432]

To add, no Tachyon wasn't meta but it was basically the best FTK around together with Gimmick Puppet so that's why they banned Turtke and limited the non-HOPT Gimmick Puppet xyz. Turtle is a very good hit, no deck that uses it will ever use it for something creative or interesting, same reason why Cannom Soldier and Amazoness Archer are banned in the OCG.

[@joshhaynes4737]

Same as why Bishbaalkin was banned in Master Duels, because of a toxic FTK that while it wasn't meta, it was unfun to play against and very annoying unless you draw the outs.

[@KevinHasbiYudhistira-qk8iz]

As OCG Players , This Banlist Probably Fire Captult Turtle Ban being Too Consistant FTK with 1 Card Combo and Kaiser for Floodgates , Limit Sangen For Tenpai and Beatrice for Fiendsmith Atleast Kirin And Plushfire is Back for PePe 2.0 ( of course with electrume ) and once again OCG being OCG with Jokingly Semi Limited List : )

[@xatuyou8045]

They could have banned beatrice then. TCG has had one for a long time.

[@Lian00]

how is limiting bea for fiendsmith relevant?

[@KevinHasbiYudhistira-qk8iz]

For Fiendsmith Yubel Variant , sometimes bring 2 Beatrice for More follow up

[@nobunogax2036]

​@@Lian00it's a "warning" about the usage, and the prevention of it being used again in the next turn. High Wave King and Closed Moon will also have their turn in the upcoming banlist. This makes more sense if you remember maxx c exists, which also means that turn 4 onward does exist in OCG for all kind of decks.

[@admontblanc]

Semi-Limits is the best part of OCG list and there should be more cards at 2. If cards at 2 do nothing why don't you play just 2 of everything?

[@number-qx1kw]

It's the first time in years that we have 0 banned pendulum monsters in the ocg

[@thewave-qz9lt]

mulchummy bros... its over.

[@skream2018]

No problem we'll.

[@waves5249]

Don't care about the OCG, as long as they ban maxx "c" in MD, then we're good. If they did not ban lvl 2 earth insect when they add mulchummyz then I'm legitimately uninstalling

[@avatarmufasa3628]

​@@waves5249It might affect card design space is the reason I care.

[@invertbrid]

U mean banning maxx C? Ain't gonna happen this banlist as they still selling those tactical try decks. Tho I get that they maybe could hit it to 2 as tactical try decks only give 2 maxx C anyway.

[@r3zaful]

​@@waves5249no we love Maxx c

[@nycnow811]

Ocg always has much more creativity mean while in the tcg konami says hey you HAVE to play these top 2 decks or else you’re gonna lose.

[@BMi-lf1gk]

How much time for the d-rulers semi-limit to travel the tcg ? I wanna party like in 2013 😎

[@TheMeetymeet]

Oh, Konami. We "sure" didn't know Beatrice is something to be aware of...

[@yogsothoth915]

But the Dark Souls deck deserves its bonfires.

[@darkvictory21]

Master rule 6 needs to introduce a continuous zone to make floodgates less effective. Floodgates or continuous cards limited a singular zone or 2.

[@MadaraUchiha-wf4iv]

Sangen Summoning the only fine, hit, maybe the puppet one, Catapult and Kaiser so obvious. TCG Last list you did a B- try to be among that range please.

[@imwithyou38]

oh time seal gives me nostalgia like crazy....i top 16ed a sjc with deck that had 3 main time seal and 2 drop off....i might have been the first to top a sjc with drop off in my main board....i lost for top 8 by adam "i cant stop cheating" corn as at the time i didnt know and he stacked 4 cards in a row 2 games straight....opening up 1 of's 4 different cards in both games

[@Tortorrta]

The ocg does deliver banlists pretty regularly and that's commendable. The fact they don't always do anything isn't. Still better than tcg most of the time though.

[@itachi3907]

Catapult turtle being banned in 2024 what a hilarious time to be alive along with the mulchummy, maxx c duo being allowed is insane.

[@beardedcat9744]

Now I hope TCG gives us back Masterplan. Deck would be doing almost nothing with her back.

[@Billy_Wyatt]

I can't believe we live in a world where catapult turtle is banned. Well, same thing happened to cannon soldier.

[@brandonreeds9587]

As someone who has exclusively played BA / PK since 2016: I miss when Beatrice was used for Dante rather than a generic foolish :/

[@Pyrokatze]

Thanks for the video. 😊

[@colossaldonut5190]

Snake-Eye still reigns supreme!

[@aajackson35]

I just find it hilarious yet pathetic that a number of TCG players are still complaining about one card that is Maxx C. Despite its status as forbidden in the TCG. Triggered over a 'hand trap' As for the OCG, interesting choice on certain cards, but overall the hits seemed reasonable. Time will tell how the OCG format will change. Especially with Rage of the Abyss and other packs.

[@Stakatakataka]

Free my boy catapult turtle he’s done nothing wrong Horus is the problem😭😭😭

[@PatricioMarino]

So Ii see maybe 3 relevant hits in 10 cards

[@alexandreblossom6461]

Little knight to 2, now to 1 and may ban in the next ban ocg 🤔 Bea to 1 it’s an joke, tenpai field to 1 is nice, I think that snake eyes rest playable.

[@POWERPRIME01]

Yugioh really does need a reboot if we got to ban cards like catapult turtle.

[@number-qx1kw]

Rush duels exist for a reason

[@POWERPRIME01]

@@number-qx1kw I was more thinking master rule update. Higher minimum deck counts, life points increase, limit the number of special summons or going back to a 10 card extra deck.

[@Saixjacket]

Catapult turtle was always a card that could have been banned, it has had the capacity to FTK.

[@lucasalarcon3230]

Turtle was errata before is problematic since always

[@POWERPRIME01]

@@lucasalarcon3230 it’s why errata’s are problematic. Brain control and imperial order are also good examples.

[@ViserionGames]

Another disappointing list that won't have an effect on the gameplay of the top decks. It just prevents a few FTKs of rogue / teir 3 decks. Very sick of these consistency hits for decks that just need to be taken out of the meta

[@chevoyingram9589]

Do you actually play ocg or are you a tcg player.

[@derianalscester3924]

Descansa en paz tortuga catapulta 😢

[@Gilgamesh-em6ru]

they hit tenpai harsher than these slap on the wrist snake eyes hits? why, like I know it's a problem deck in the ocg since their favorite hand trap maxx C sucks against it but come on.

[@johan3116]

Max c still a 3 even with mulchummy 💀

[@Greg501-]

I told people, they wanted Maxx "C" 4-6 so that everyone has to play through it every game, as Yugioh should be

[@endforever]

Almost nobody play mulchummy accord to report lol

[@milto2269]

​@Greg501- if they really want that, they should ban crossout, called by and ash. Otherwise combo decks will continue to dominate and the misery of playing against a full board and maxxc will continue

[@easyygo3008]

Why play mulchummy when you have unfair c? It will see more play in the TCG

[@bombatomica_6449]

They didn't hit Maxx c how the hell do you play ocg with 6 of them

[@dotreant5264]

I only play Master Duel, it feels so wrong when i see ocg ban lists because they control both formats... The resolution or not of Maxx C will keep deciding the outcome of every game it presents itself forever and ever. i was coping too hard on mulchummy been a replacement. When the time comes if they don't ban Maxx C to bring mulchummy on MD i'm uninstalling, i already only play the events where maxx c is banned otherwise i dont care about the format, the meta or whatever, maxx c keeps deciding games on its own.

[@user-vl8ck4gz6w]

Why not try playing the TCG format? MAxxC is banned there.

[@r3zaful]

No we love Maxx c

[@fn2025]

Sp to 1 is almost as stupid as sp to 2

[@flickerygems7779]

Nice kaiser Colosseum banned

[@Ragnarok540]

This is less impactful than most MD banlists. I don't know what's going to needs to happen before Maxx C gets at least semi limited. They had their chance here and didn't take it.

[@chewdoom8415]

Why would they semi limit it? Because of mulch?

[@johnathanlemus5584]

Can’t do that with Tactical try decks still selling.

[@Ragnarok540]

​@@johnathanlemus5584tactical try decks come with two Maxx c, hence the semi limit.

[@desertline6272]

Summon limit should be Unlimited in all formats.

[@alexandergeorgiev74]

Kaiser coliseum should be banned in master duel too striker abuse it too much

[@Chronzic4]

The list is mid and a joke at the same time. Some how. Lol

[@TheMeetymeet]

Beatrice to 1, enough said.

[@AG30]

Like wtf is Beatrice to 1 even do

[@babrad]

@@AG30 With Bystials or another engine making a lvl6 on the field you can make 2 Beatrice then an F0 I guess, or 4 quick effect mills. For example in Fiendsmith Tear if you hit Shyama or Mali you can use both Tear fusion effects on the same turn, or allow bs like quick effect Winda etc. For a meta deck I have no idea.

[@galaxyvulture6649]

Bruh catapult turtle got banned right as I started using it in my tachyon build. Every time I join in the degeneracy cards get banned💀

[@sammydray5919]

Dont indulge in degeneracy then 😅

[@alanledesma987]

😂

[@BlackBeartic229]

Maybe don't play a deck with the sole purpose of being degenerate? Lmao Tachyon is good without it so you're fine

[@galaxyvulture6649]

@@BlackBeartic229 Nah if people do it to me I'm giving the same energy. I mainly only use it against meta anyways. Like a couple days ago someone Calamity locked me so the next game I ftked for payback.

[@BlackBeartic229]

@@galaxyvulture6649 Know what. I can actually respect that. If you don't want degeneracy towards you don't be degenerate towards others lmao. Hope you're still playing Tachyon despite the ban tho. It's genuinely a pretty good midrange deck with huge burst options

[@pillowking05]

First

[@dantesc2520]

Catapult turtle will come off the ban list until it gets a new erratas as hard once per turn.

[@xatuyou8045]

It's already a soft once per turn. As long as you can get a monster with 16000 attack on board, it's dangerous.

[@vanguardRailgun924]

Why is it even there it sounds like a joke.

[@Saixjacket]

@@vanguardRailgun924summoning a 16000 attack number 100 is a thing, and only gets easier as getting turtle on the field for free is only getting easier with time.

[@dantesc2520]

An new update of catapult turtle effects is tribute a monster with below 16,000 too 8000 attack points.

[@vanguardRailgun924]

…..wait…..why is catapult turtle banned? Tf? Who’s playing catapult turtle in 2024? This whole list looks like a meme.

[@number-qx1kw]

Tachyon ftk

[@vanguardRailgun924]

@@number-qx1kwThat sounds like a joke

[@jamespolk6146]

Anything that involves Catapult Turtle is causes an FTK. And FTK cards gotta go.

[@ManyTanks1]

@@vanguardRailgun924I can assure you it’s not. Tachyon recently got support that lets it pump out multiple rank 8s not even using its normal summon. Combined with some galaxy eyes support to search out numbers creation to cheat out a numeron dragon with one material (all it needs to use its effect to pump itself to 16k atk) and then using your normal for catapult turtle, bam FTK

[@chewdoom8415]

​@@vanguardRailgun924 It is not a joke. It is just knowledge of the ocg meta that you lacked. No one knows everything so it is normal.

[@utopia19876]

As per usual, OCG list continue to be a joke, a completely lack of understanding of actually hitting decks and somehow being more out of touch than tcg

[@uctungle6773]

They are directly hitting sneks and tenpai, which is more than I could say about the last tcg list.

[@lucasalarcon3230]

They hit 2 of the 3 best deck with direct hit to much tunnel vision on shit like SP to 1 and beatrice

[@babrad]

@@uctungle6773 The Snake hit just make room for Fiendsmith to make said hit completely irrelevant. About Tenpai, while I hate card design like Sangen eliminating player interaction, they are Dragon War Rocks without their field spell.

[@uctungle6773]

@@babrad the snek build is already playing full fiendsmith package even without ash and bonfire hit so what are you making room for? Also I don't know what point you are trying to make regarding the tenpai hit.

[@babrad]

@@uctungle6773 They play 3-1-1 fiendsmiths when they can play a 2nd Sanctum or the Quickplay, Poplar is also typically at 2 when it can easily replace the 1 SnAsh that got removed, and I've seen some lists cutting down on Diabel that could still be maxed out and the ratio of starters remains the same. About Tenpai, unless it's a best of one or the deck they face is extremely weak to Maxx C / Shifter, they are mediocre and only the field spell allowed them a chance to do their gimmick against meta decks.

[@babrad]

Hot take but since TOSS format, TCG banlists have been consistently better than OCG ones, despite sometimes having terrible formats or the dreaded "no changes" joke.

[@deathKkid]

One of the worst banlists of all time. These last ocg banlists were terrible. What a shame. These hits almost don't matter. Catapult ban is good to stop the ftk. Fiendsmith snake eye lost almost no consistency, tenpai lost 2 fieldspells, which also doesn't hit the consistency enough. Beatrice limit doesnt matter s:p limit is not that relevant. AND NO MAXX C HIT AGAIN, wtf man. Really happy to be playing TCG even though the banlist isn't perfect. Master Duel has the same banlist philosophy, pretty much ruining the game for me so I would really like if the ocg fixed their mess, maybe master duel also does that then.

[@WShoup9818]

MD can afford to do that because it's a new list almost every month so things will be addressed before they are in ocg and even tcg

[@jtalkalot19]

I always laugh at your hate for kaiser colosseum. Because card was seeing no play AT ALL, until last year in the OCG. And the card was banned for ruling issues here in the TCG in 2015. This also seems to be a trend among us TCG players where we lose our mind when cards we have here that get banned here, start showing up in OCG play

[@BlackBeartic229]

Floodgates shouldn't exist lmao. Kaiser was always stupid but tcg banned it before it truly became an issue due to those ruling issues. Now it can stay banned. OCG didn't have decks that could win off one monster + kaiser as much as they did last year either

[@V4Lanz]

ocg players in shambles cuz there is not hit to max c