My racing sim feels like real life now.

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Күн бұрын

We've reached the endgame now (I think).
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@sprntd1
@sprntd1 2 ай бұрын
you are slowly building a car
@HansRutenbrecher
@HansRutenbrecher 2 ай бұрын
next video: " i build a full tube frame chassis for my racing sim and for the the ultimate realistic sound i bought an engine dyno with 10 full engines to choose from"
@betterincome9250
@betterincome9250 2 ай бұрын
@@PandaMoniumHUNhe has a McLaren lol
@BigBigBigJeff
@BigBigBigJeff 2 ай бұрын
"I added wheels to my racing sim"
@wuroiz8848
@wuroiz8848 2 ай бұрын
@@HansRutenbrecher "I designed a ultra light weight Porsche GT3 RS Mod Kit, printed with Nylon PA12 via MJF"
@kavilpparwar4956
@kavilpparwar4956 2 ай бұрын
"I added engine to my sim and its amazing"
@SpenserFL
@SpenserFL 2 ай бұрын
"I think I am finally done upgrading this thing." 11:33 > doubt
@jesperburns
@jesperburns 2 ай бұрын
Next up. G force rig.
@JJCAMulders
@JJCAMulders 2 ай бұрын
I have had that same thought many times.....
2 ай бұрын
That's what you tell yourself before you upgrade. 😏
@deantzu
@deantzu 2 ай бұрын
fucking accurate 😂 same thing I told myself a week prior upgrading my whole pc parts
@supremacy98
@supremacy98 2 ай бұрын
Yep, like a PC, you're never done upgrading a sim rig
@danielberry777
@danielberry777 2 ай бұрын
Hi, race car driver here. I tested a $70,000 full motion racing sim back in 2018 and helped provide feedback to the developers of it. It was almost undrivable compared to a static seat. It did not at all help with feeling the car, it just made it feel like a roller coaster attraction. If you do motion upgrades, make them subtle changes in motion.
@diegojosephia
@diegojosephia 2 ай бұрын
I am a motorcycle rider with enough track days by now. Tried vr racing recently and crashed about 100 times in an hour, because my biggest complaint was that I did not feel the motorcycle, the handlebars ect. Soo my question, how far into the immersion is too much would you say?
@jdoe9518
@jdoe9518 2 ай бұрын
What are race drivers always chasing? Balance. What is Balance? The point at which tyre slip angle is exceeded and the drivers preference of break away front (understeer/tight) to rear (oversteer/loose). The fastest drivers are the ones that can feel and use the tyre right at the threshold of maximum slip angle with the best coupling of front and rear. No sim will ever reproduce the feeling of the tyre slip angle and the dynamics it creates in a chassis that real drivers feel. A sedan with not enough tyre, no aero and low spring and bar rates will actual move through all 3 axis quite a lot. May even feel like a roller coaster to someone from go karts and open wheelers
@danielberry777
@danielberry777 2 ай бұрын
@@diegojosephiahard to say. VR is good, butt kicker is very good with haptic feedback. I would say this video shows pretty much the limit of what I would consider necessary for realism to feel the car.
@bakedbeings
@bakedbeings 2 ай бұрын
I just want pads that press on my right side when I turn left. Also a cable that yoinks my head right, so I can develop Piastri neck.
@harryvuemedia
@harryvuemedia 2 ай бұрын
like i said in my post, Racing Sim helps teaches us about Racing thus giving us the knowledge. It can never replace Real Life racing experience because we cannot feel the G-force, tire pressure, Body-roll, road surface and so on. So no point in wasting over $1,000 USD on a Racing Sim setup.
@felixb.59
@felixb.59 2 ай бұрын
I got a SIM rig with butt kicker and pedal vibration as well, but from what I've heard, one of the best upgrades for a realistic feeling is not necessarily a motion rig, but simply a seatbelt that tensions when braking. Look it up, they are made specifically for sim racing seats
@theshanamaster
@theshanamaster 2 ай бұрын
also, with my sim rig, i have a butt kicker mounted where he as it, but also as well, had a subwoofer near my pedals to simluate road noise near my feet since i primarily do rally sims, which i need to feel the conditions, think he should also try that out
@LeoMkII
@LeoMkII Ай бұрын
You mfs are building the matrix lmao
@TomThumb8345
@TomThumb8345 Ай бұрын
I have a QS-BT1 and it's the most immersive piece of equipment I have besides VR.
@SB24K
@SB24K Ай бұрын
@@LeoMkII 🤣🤣
@xAudiolith
@xAudiolith Ай бұрын
@@theshanamaster Bro that's genius. Gonna try that tonight, thanks!
@mhj360
@mhj360 2 ай бұрын
Motion platform and belt tensioners are the final boss of sim rig upgrades. They won’t make you faster, but if immersion is the ultimate objective, they’re must-haves combined with VR.
@cliffordduhh45
@cliffordduhh45 2 ай бұрын
For the good of the Optimum channel! For science! Let’s gooooo!
@NoDepth
@NoDepth 2 ай бұрын
Yep, have both motion and an active belt tensioner on mine. Arguably a belt tensioner is more additive as a helpful tool to better understand certain g-forces under cornering and braking, especially the Qubic BT-1 that offers its own unique haptic effects alongside tension of the harnesses. Lots of great information added to pure feeling alongside just being very fun to have. Both it and motion ultimately are largely immersion tools that I personally adore. And they are not cheap.
@amazin7006
@amazin7006 2 ай бұрын
The amount of money you can spend on this hobby is pretty much a bottomless pit
@VanFS3K
@VanFS3K 2 ай бұрын
This
@cptclutch2530
@cptclutch2530 2 ай бұрын
Idk why he is upgrading this rig when it’s clear he needs to go with a profile rig. So much better for a project like this and can go crazy with 3D printing and mounting stuff.
@bmwilli13
@bmwilli13 Ай бұрын
The best Vibration is having one on each corner and one on the seat. Once you get it dialed in you can feel how each wheel is reacting to the ground. Game changer from 1 bass shaker
@PietroPizzi
@PietroPizzi 2 ай бұрын
Great Rig! ... Buuut you can do much more in terms of immersion: - Seatbelt tensioner for brake- and G-forces (eg. Qubic System BT1) - Rumbel on the Throttle from Simagic (or an Active Pedal, but the difference just for TC isn't worth it) - Light Sim with the Philips Hue system - An Active H-Shifter with Gear-Lockout, for H-Shiftet Cars (from Bash Pro) - 4-Corner Rumble from Slip-Angle (or Full Motion, but the Rumble-Kit brings you 80% there for much less) - Tracktion Loss & Surch Platform (DIY or e.g. Quibic Systems CH2)
@garrybartlett6853
@garrybartlett6853 2 ай бұрын
He could get in a real car and actually drive around aswell...
@DankoleClouds
@DankoleClouds 2 ай бұрын
@@garrybartlett6853 The simulation he's achieving isn't realistically something you can just hop in a car and do on a daily basis.
@Maksimszz
@Maksimszz 2 ай бұрын
@@garrybartlett6853 Yeah bro hes gonna hop in his car and go straight to an f1 track, be realistic please 🤣
@garrybartlett6853
@garrybartlett6853 2 ай бұрын
@Maksimszz seat belt tension on a sim rig... and you want me to be realistic... bwahhahahha
@garrybartlett6853
@garrybartlett6853 2 ай бұрын
@DankoleClouds you do know he is sitting in his front room in his pj's play GT7...
@regexza
@regexza 2 ай бұрын
"my real life feels like a racing sim" - MKBHD
@KARMAticSAGE
@KARMAticSAGE 2 ай бұрын
Give him a brake already!
@zsiggyy
@zsiggyy 2 ай бұрын
do u reckon he said that when he went 96 in a school zone
@GeorgeD1
@GeorgeD1 2 ай бұрын
@@KARMAticSAGE I see what you did there... 😅
@hanauzaki6264
@hanauzaki6264 2 ай бұрын
He shouldn't get 1 dude is a multi millionaire ​@@KARMAticSAGE
@ScrakSFMs
@ScrakSFMs 2 ай бұрын
@@zsiggyy that's funny! -brit
@Hades_B
@Hades_B 7 сағат бұрын
As a simple person at first I thought it is another video of a nerd showing off his money and gadgets and speaking some difficult inunderstandable words. But as I watched on...I was slowly hooked. Gaming Tech has evolved so much that it is almost in linear to real world racing setup... although there is still a lot to improve but the sheer dedication and mental preparation to build something like this is truly amazing. The gamer in me thanks this dude. 👍🏻💯💗
@confusedscreaming9727
@confusedscreaming9727 2 ай бұрын
Me, with no interest in racing sims: "Oh hell yeah a new Optimum video about his racing sim!"
@Sajgoniarz
@Sajgoniarz 2 ай бұрын
@@confusedscreaming9727 same here too, I just love to watch people with passion even if I don't get it.
@shadir007
@shadir007 2 ай бұрын
Best two comments I’ve read on KZbin. Respect.
@garrybartlett6853
@garrybartlett6853 2 ай бұрын
Are you sure you have no interest in sim racing...? I think you really want one... I think you should get one... join my server, race on my team... !!!
@carlomdlf
@carlomdlf 2 ай бұрын
i got all the interest, none of the budget lol
@kidhack4141
@kidhack4141 2 ай бұрын
Yeah same. I'm like when can I come over?
@bunyaminyilmaz3798
@bunyaminyilmaz3798 2 ай бұрын
Bro is not skipping leg day.
@jeroexx
@jeroexx 2 ай бұрын
*left leg day
@maremike2691
@maremike2691 2 ай бұрын
This thing cant go beyond 110kg. Needs 200kg at least. Lightweight baby
@brandon9491
@brandon9491 2 ай бұрын
You arent single leg pressing 200kg dude 💀
@zeezee-h8v
@zeezee-h8v 2 ай бұрын
glad i wasnt the only one thinking that lool
@zawiszaczarny1749
@zawiszaczarny1749 2 ай бұрын
Hes Not an incel
@Archangel125
@Archangel125 2 ай бұрын
Motion systems are a game changer, especially in vr. I highly recommend. There are two types of motion simulators, distracting ones that tilt you around, and immersive ones that subtlety rotate you around your center of gravity. Go for the later. It’s not about shaking you about like a cheap amusement ride, it’s about subtly moving earths gravity in relation to you to simulate the gforces of turns and acceleration/braking. It can be as big a leap as vr was, and it’s the most thrilling upgrade. The one I used was custom made so I can’t give recommendations, but diy is an option if you’re inclined. If you can raise your seat at all I’d recommend remounting the buttkicker to the bottom if possible since that’s where you’d feel the vibrations irl from where the seats mounted.
@tsushima33
@tsushima33 2 ай бұрын
are the motion systems fast enough to be in sync with in-game car?
@maremike2691
@maremike2691 2 ай бұрын
The mounting of the buttkicker looked pretty sketchy to me. Hopefully he used some locktite. Vibration feedback should not wiggle when in use. That creates noise, and makes feedback less reliable and strong.
@epsi9923
@epsi9923 2 ай бұрын
​@@tsushima33After a little research, point 1 here is many of them are not in the "affordable" range; the 4 I saw within the midrange pricing point for these (and I won't include brand names as my original comment did and was deleted by KZbin, this is v2) had polling rates of 800, 1200, 1200, and 1500 respectively. The only one to have in-site reviews showed promise, with the most in-depth review stating that they tested it at in-game equivalent speeds of 30, 60, 90, and 120 mph on Rally-style tracks where possible. They had an absolutely glowing review of its performance at all these speeds, and with Rally having many more turns than most other racing styles I'd say they should in general have plenty of breathing room for performing quickly enough.
@Archangel125
@Archangel125 2 ай бұрын
@@tsushima33 Yes
@MnDogman
@MnDogman 2 ай бұрын
Motion sins are incredible, the reason a lot of enthusiasts don’t get them is because it actually makes you slow in lap times but for immersion it is great
@imanerdymonke
@imanerdymonke 2 ай бұрын
Even as someone who doesn't play racing games, I still find this really cool.
@Alex-bl8uh
@Alex-bl8uh 2 ай бұрын
Even as a person who doesnt game at all, I find this interesting
@kurtramos59
@kurtramos59 2 ай бұрын
@@Alex-bl8uh even as someone who isnt a person I find this amusing "beeps" 🤖
@Hippida
@Hippida 2 ай бұрын
Just the tech in that 2k pedal was amazing, and understanding how it works, brilliant piece of tech and machining tbh
@CYMotorsport
@CYMotorsport 8 күн бұрын
Started with trying to understand how to mod thrustmaster bases to accept other wheels. 2 years later there’s a literal 70s era F1 body replica for my sim In my rig room 😂 I know the pain. Fantastic work! Very inspiring brother
@COddietsch
@COddietsch 2 ай бұрын
Forgot about being a kid again, your living every guys gaming dream. I’m not into driving games because they just don’t give me enough fun feeling with a controller. If I had this I’d probably play daily. Money well spent.
@zero_day_xsploit
@zero_day_xsploit 2 ай бұрын
Warning sim racing is an addiction …it starts with a small purchase…dont come
@S0HJIN
@S0HJIN 2 ай бұрын
I'm not a racing sim person, but I play a space sim called Star Citizen, using dual flight sticks. I love my bass shaker, I only wish the game supported it with telemetry like the racing sims do for tuning the feedback. So jealous of that control.
@archangelz558
@archangelz558 10 күн бұрын
the 3d scanner and printing is simply astonishing !!🤯🤯
@Sorgenfrei6250
@Sorgenfrei6250 2 ай бұрын
When I was a small child, in the early 1980s, there was a racing arcade slot machine in front of a department store in our town. I googled it and found out that this was the first of its kind. It was called “Nürburgring”. The special thing about this device was that it had complete hydraulics. You had to really get into it. The device was massive and swung outwards in the curves. A great simulation of centrifugal force. Absolute fun! So if you want to hear my opinion: You have the space, you have the money: do it! You won't regret it and, as always, we get a brilliant video from you!
@Cre4tor.
@Cre4tor. 2 ай бұрын
Ein weiterer deutscher optimum viewer?
@Sorgenfrei6250
@Sorgenfrei6250 2 ай бұрын
​@Cre4tor. Jop 😎
@MrMuggsly
@MrMuggsly 2 ай бұрын
I am done upgrading this rig but then again I might upgrade this and that ... I love it!!
@shadir007
@shadir007 2 ай бұрын
D-box G5… DOOOO IT… DOOO IT… DOOO IT…
@Ermz
@Ermz 8 күн бұрын
So cool watching you get into sim racing. Enjoy the hangs with Will next week!
@Stitchlolol
@Stitchlolol 2 ай бұрын
Its insane how fast this guy learns things and just applies them to what he needs. I'm still racking my brain behind the whole technology of 3d printing making molds etc, but this guys just instantly gets it it seems. He has talent not only in video editing and content creation but literally in learning, understanding and application its actually crazy.
@Mr-R.R.
@Mr-R.R. 2 ай бұрын
He's an engineer so there's that. But he also doesn't instantly "gets it". He has years of experience with 3d printing at a higher level already. It would be expected for him to figure this out fast
@osku388
@osku388 2 ай бұрын
Essentially everyone has the ability to learn to the same capacity but choose not to. Don't go attributing skill to talent
@Sajgoniarz
@Sajgoniarz 2 ай бұрын
@@Mr-R.R. what engineering?
@jordankelly4684
@jordankelly4684 2 ай бұрын
@@Sajgoniarz who cares? all engineering disciplines are mentally brutal
@Mr-R.R.
@Mr-R.R. 2 ай бұрын
@@Sajgoniarz don't quite remember, but if I'm not mistaken it's mechanical engineering
@AiAngel
@AiAngel 2 ай бұрын
You're gonna loose allot of "resolution" in the butkicker vibration because of the mounting method. If you scan the side of it and the back of the seat to make an intsert, then strap the thing against the seat you'll get allot more transfer of the vibration. All in all amazing work though!
@Heretik666
@Heretik666 Ай бұрын
Yep, mounting is vital for any kicker, can use similar to engine mounts to isolate and ensure good contact on very rigid rigs to help. One of my rigs I mounted rear kickers on stalks which worked really well, felt like you had a proper rear end and could really feel what it was doing - good to experiment and plan it out for sure. They also work well with two or more placed on solid shell seats like you say. The original Realtus Force Feel seats and similar new ones are actually really imersive as well - add nice effects for braking and long cornering too.. well worth the money! 👍
@sKuNKdoSE
@sKuNKdoSE 22 күн бұрын
Well pointed out! 👏
@CartoonrBOY
@CartoonrBOY 2 ай бұрын
The motion seats are absolutely key to the experience. With VR, a fan & a moving chair you'd be completely fooled into thinking that impending crash is really gonna hurt. You haven't reached the peak until you've tried it & I'm positive the rewards would outweigh the costs. My fingers are crossed you'll take the final step...😎😎😁😁
@AnonymousPerson-h5z
@AnonymousPerson-h5z 2 ай бұрын
My best racing sim experience was by far a vbox , the butt force feed back is way more important than VR for immersion . The forces of accelerating braking and hitting curbs simulated through seat movements truly made it great practice
@dhebert111
@dhebert111 2 ай бұрын
Gonna sound stupid here, but when we were kids we'd go to the arcade and they'd have 4 or 5 race car sims lined up and you could all race on the same virtuel track...in the 80-90's! It's crazy to think how advanced those were, looking back. Nothing vlose to this, but for 35ish years ago, it's still impresive.... Anyone else ever try those?
@seanshaw8321
@seanshaw8321 Ай бұрын
Daytona 🤙
@relapsed5550
@relapsed5550 Ай бұрын
There is upgraded versions of those at most arcades now
@scottamolinari
@scottamolinari Ай бұрын
Yes. My friend and I would jump in them any chance we could.
@Sassannid
@Sassannid 13 күн бұрын
ahh memories
@Zach-do8di
@Zach-do8di 2 ай бұрын
If you want a manual gear selector, I’ve heard and seen reviews that the H1SQ H-PATTERN/SEQUENTIAL SHIFTER from Murray motorsports is the best one! You can adjust pressures, change between h pattern and sequential, and it uses an actual shifter linkage
@motaki79
@motaki79 2 ай бұрын
That pedal is insane. Aside-Always been on team VR. Apple nailed it with their headset-although it failed with their target audience, it gave us a good look of how far we’ve come in terms of the visual quality and capabilities. So whether it’s Apple or whomever comes to market first-I’m excited and prefer the VR-headset for the car simulation experience.
@1337Hans
@1337Hans 2 ай бұрын
Motion rigs are absolutely worth it, and incredibly amplified by VR, just very expensive. My favorite thing that it adds that is not often talked about is a whole new dimension of personality to tracks, with track texture and bumps. I don't even use mine for G-force simulation, I use it exclusively for heave motion and orientation (like tilting in a banked corner). If you get one, make sure to get one with 150mm of stroke. This way the system doesn't run out of stroke if you're getting bumps climbing a hill or in a corner. Also makes driving trophy trucks and rally cars an absolute blast.
@vm20709
@vm20709 2 ай бұрын
Does the movement of the rig affect the VR sensors or does it negate it somehow
@SuperNova_OW
@SuperNova_OW 2 ай бұрын
@@vm20709 They do get negated, but the game has to support motion rigs for this afaik
@Scalma_91
@Scalma_91 2 ай бұрын
Motion actuators and belt tensioner is next! If money ain't an issue get Qubic's stuff. You'll thank me later
@Maskinmester-DK
@Maskinmester-DK 2 ай бұрын
They are garbage..
@TalooshDaBoss
@TalooshDaBoss 2 ай бұрын
$1500 belt tensioner is wild, such a small thing
@awakeandwatching953
@awakeandwatching953 2 ай бұрын
@@Maskinmester-DK they are not.. not the right ones set up correctly.. dan susuki , race beyond matter etc all have their set up so its not over exaggerated
@stevenlarson3316
@stevenlarson3316 2 ай бұрын
@@TalooshDaBoss Is it a small thing? You get to feel how much you're braking. The sounds pretty good to me. That's good feedback for trail braking, I think.
@aliardaerd
@aliardaerd 2 ай бұрын
@@TalooshDaBoss if you are buying off the shelf stuff then sim racing is expensive but if you are DIYing it to an acceptable degree you can probably have a belt tensioner for 1/10 of that price which will perform almost the same
@Wemissyoudoc
@Wemissyoudoc Күн бұрын
You’re like ironman reviewing gadgets now🤘🏻🤝🏼🍻 so clean sir 😊
@LithiumBlock
@LithiumBlock 2 ай бұрын
I’ve got a full motion rig with custom built 65nm ffwb, triple 77s, etc. Here’s what I recommend: 1) ya gotta get a clutch and 6 speed shifter with handbrake (a real one, check out Quaiff). Man it is sooooo fun to drive a 5 speed RUF 911 yellow bird or other manual cars. You could get an active gearbox that allows for easy switch to sequential, the tech is newer so it may be more up your alley. An active pedal is better used on a clutch than an accelerator due to bite point and depth. 2) You need to mount a second buttkicker on the wheelbase. There’s micro feedback that the wheelbase can’t give you but the buttkicker can. The flick of a gear change, or the slightest rumble when you go over a texture surface change or brush a curb. 3) you don’t need full motion. I’ve got it, it’s cool, but you don’t need it. A better intermediate step is an active harness system. This one is pretty crazy and doesn’t seem like it will work but it TOTALLY tricks your brain in the breaking zones.
@Rhythmic_Hammer
@Rhythmic_Hammer 2 ай бұрын
Triple 77’s? What the hell kind of giant car are you driving and you must be so far from the screens. You seems really on it with all this but 77’s is stupidly big and bigger is definitely not better here.
@LithiumBlock
@LithiumBlock 2 ай бұрын
@@Rhythmic_Hammer its to show off mate.
@simucube
@simucube 2 ай бұрын
Awesome upgrades to your sim setup 🔥 We’re glad to hear you’re enjoying the ActivePedal Pro!
@diegojosephia
@diegojosephia 2 ай бұрын
Am a motorcycle rider, with enough track days. And tried sim racing today with vr😅😅 crashed about a 100 times in an hour. The "butt kicker" and any extra feeling and emersion seens like an amazing addition to the rig!!(Based on my experience)
@starisepic3130
@starisepic3130 2 ай бұрын
Big fan of the noctua fans for the wind simulation haha!
@rhekman
@rhekman 2 ай бұрын
What can Brown do for you?
@pegasusgw
@pegasusgw 2 ай бұрын
haha me too im actually thinking about doing this for normal gaming setup to keep me cool
@derekzamzow1338
@derekzamzow1338 2 ай бұрын
I don't get the point of the wind though. Like, you're in a car, there's no wind in there haha. If it was a motorcycle sim sure, but idk about a car lol
@ryanj116
@ryanj116 2 ай бұрын
@@derekzamzow1338 your car windows roll down, in case you haven’t tried it
@maremike2691
@maremike2691 2 ай бұрын
@@derekzamzow1338 Not really wind, but more of an AC simulation. Without the AC part though.
@JayWithAJ
@JayWithAJ 2 ай бұрын
Road car seats are undefeated for comfort in static sim rigs. I changed from a bucket seat to an MX5 seat on my profile rig, it made such a big difference.
@Kevin.L_
@Kevin.L_ 2 ай бұрын
Does it recline? The cheap Dodge seat we have creaks and moves under heavy breaking. Looking to upgrade but we needs sliders and recline to fit different drivers.
@JayWithAJ
@JayWithAJ 2 ай бұрын
@Kevin.L_ yes, it does recline and slide. I used the standard sliders attached to the seat, and tilted the mounting profile it went on, to get it bolted onto the rig. It's absolutely solid, no creaking or movement.
@Kevin.L_
@Kevin.L_ 2 ай бұрын
@JayWithAJ Thank you. I'll have to check them out.
@Pividol
@Pividol 2 ай бұрын
I use a volvo xc90 seat, $35 from a junkyard and its a great place to be
@Kevin.L_
@Kevin.L_ 2 ай бұрын
@@Pividol I expected there were other good options. Volvo makes sense. Found a BMW seat local but it was $350.
@aahhhhhhhhhh
@aahhhhhhhhhh 2 ай бұрын
the thing I love most about driving is the g force. the turning and accelerating is something that is so hard to replicate. there are ways to do it by tilting the sim up so gravity pushes you in your seat. you also do the side, or down, or whatever. that's how airplane sims are done. the only issue is really jerky movements don't work as well because, well you're using rotational force instead of lateral force. the physics are really cool though
@mregyptiancitizen6770
@mregyptiancitizen6770 2 ай бұрын
as an old sim racing enthusiast and new diy sim builder I approve im currently working on a full diy sim rig diy wheelbase diy pedals diy H & SQ shifter simultaneously Diy handbrake diy bass shaker im talking diy the sh!t out of it great work my guy Welcome to the sim racing community
@bonboklagecodwarrior
@bonboklagecodwarrior 2 ай бұрын
Are you fully DIYing everything? I tried making a wheelbase with ffbeast but it didn't work, if you have some resources could you share some? Thanks
@mregyptiancitizen6770
@mregyptiancitizen6770 2 ай бұрын
@@bonboklagecodwarrior sure ffbeast is my main resource but i learn from here & there to do the job done perfectly + I'm doing a expansion board that will align my connectors to have OEM like board
@benjamintollison
@benjamintollison 2 ай бұрын
One step away from a 6DoF chair at this point
@gasracing5000
@gasracing5000 2 ай бұрын
I've got the 3axis DoF. It's fun and great for rally racing. Honestly, for road racing, it's not really worth it. A transducer is a much better bang for Buck.
@Rauzaire
@Rauzaire Ай бұрын
I think that for the most accurate feeling, you would want 5 shakers. One for each wheel and one in the back like you have for the engine. This way you will be able to feel the slip or vibration of each tire independently. That said, dope rig!!!
@BenMagargee
@BenMagargee 2 ай бұрын
Keep the upgrades coming! I'm never going to invest in a setup like this, but I love seeing the ridiculous levels of immersion you are taking your setup to.
@sgtdarkest
@sgtdarkest 2 ай бұрын
This guy raises the bar video after video. It's incredible and I'm very jealous of that simulator, plus all the technology along with the knowledge you have, it's impressive. Congrats 🥃
@chutcentral
@chutcentral 5 күн бұрын
This is the type of thing you'll spend more time troubleshooting than actually racing in
@StePhillips
@StePhillips 2 ай бұрын
Running so many effects through one shaker can start to feel muddy quite quickly. Definitely need more shakers and exciters :)
@ROO1KAT
@ROO1KAT 2 ай бұрын
4:56 Bro’s brake pedal costs more than my entire sim rig 😭
@ImKupo
@ImKupo Ай бұрын
You're a madman with your dedication, ability to teach yourself things, and passion. Love to see it Really inspiring us all to be the best we can be
@EntityGamer956
@EntityGamer956 2 ай бұрын
4:00 not the activate windows thing😭😭
@PrimalJinshaIttai
@PrimalJinshaIttai 2 ай бұрын
Priorities brother Even when you are dumb rich😭
@AkakoYoshinaga
@AkakoYoshinaga 2 ай бұрын
glad I'm not the only one who noticed lmao
@SubjektDelta
@SubjektDelta 2 ай бұрын
Finally someone isn't shying away using a VR Headset for their racing rig. Always hate seeing someone buy monitors for $3000 instead of a $1500 headset...
@ishaanchandel6966
@ishaanchandel6966 2 ай бұрын
You can get bigscreen for 1k or quest 3 for 500 even
@andrewbell2201
@andrewbell2201 2 ай бұрын
Should see one of my customers build. I sold the PCs to run the system. They use Varjo XR4 Focal editions. Makes the 1.5k headsets look like kids toys 😅
@rich9792
@rich9792 13 күн бұрын
Have to admit as soon as I put on a VR headset, I can't go back to racing without one. Nice rig!
@brulsmurf
@brulsmurf 2 ай бұрын
My setup doesn't even has a chair.
@RevJR
@RevJR 2 ай бұрын
I have heard truck sim players say that the extra realism from a motion rig is worth it. I don't think I'll ever do such a thing unless I win the lottery though, but a PSVR2 hooked up to my PC makes such a massive difference in games like BeamNG, ATS/ETS2, MSFS, Elite Dangerous, and so on, that I think a full motion rig would be great for something like space or flying sims but I think the novelty is probably limited for just driving because tilt is not gees even though they're similar. Also I don't really have room for a dedicated rig at the moment so my combined rig-at-a-desk-that's-attached-to-a-wall is pretty good for me and probably will be for another decade.
@OfficialTygo
@OfficialTygo 2 ай бұрын
Since when is psvr2 compatible with pc? Seriously i need to know
@damanraaj3496
@damanraaj3496 2 ай бұрын
@@OfficialTygo Need to buy a separate adapter for pc released few months ago. though some features like eye tracking foveated rendering don't work.
@RevJR
@RevJR 2 ай бұрын
@@OfficialTygo Yeah the steam compatibility layer released about two months ago as well as the adapter you can buy online. I would recommend 64GB of ram for any high-definition gaming and a reasonably chonky graphics card. My 3080Ti 12GB does okay with games like ATS/ETS2 on ultra, Elite Dangerous on high, and MSFS on mid.
@OfficialTygo
@OfficialTygo 2 ай бұрын
@@RevJR I mean i already have a good vr build i was just wondering since when psvr2 was available for pcvr use. I also read that sadly they basically took out all features that make the psvr2 good when you use it on pc. So at that point its just a tethered quest 3
@RevJR
@RevJR 2 ай бұрын
@@OfficialTygo I have a quest 3 and it's definitely a step above it. It's higher apparent resolution, wider field of view I think, clearer lenses for my eyes (though that's gonna be somewhat subjective I think) and so on. Yeah it doesn't have some of the features that PS5 can give it but it is a clear step up from Quest 3 in my opinion. The Quest is better for untethered applications but the PSVR2 is better for graphical fidelity, lower latency (at least it seems that way in Beat Saber), and consistently higher frame rates. The tracking is also marginally better, though that could just be luck I guess.
@gregmoore803
@gregmoore803 2 ай бұрын
From a vehicle perspective, you're completely correct about the brake pedal being more informative than the accelerator. In most modern cars the accelerator isn't connected to anything, it's a sprung potentiometer just like the one in your rig.
@moehassan_
@moehassan_ 2 ай бұрын
bro you embody what it means to be an engineer by just building things when you need to solve problems, hope I can be like that someday. mashaAllah
@iroesstrongarm
@iroesstrongarm 2 ай бұрын
I'm not a car guy, and certainly not a racing sim guy, but I love watching you fully geek out on what you love here. Also jealous of your design skills. Enjoy your new rig!
@FUSiONTheGhost
@FUSiONTheGhost 10 күн бұрын
Next step would be "TrackTime 3motion Kit" - It is a motion rig with 3 actuators that also allows motion in the Z-axis. The actuators are very fast responsive which alows to trick the brain enough to provide a natural felt motion, especially within VR.
@bin748
@bin748 2 ай бұрын
5:37 holy forearms
@VauItedVids
@VauItedVids 2 ай бұрын
ong
@g-10
@g-10 2 ай бұрын
What about "Yaw VR Motion Simulator" as motion system? Is below 4000$ and I think can support without problem the weight of pedals, steering wheel, fans and so on (together with Pimax Airlink 60G for the maximum freedom of movement)
@tommybazar
@tommybazar 2 ай бұрын
Wonder how that yaw movement would fuck with the VR head tracking - you'd need to somehow offset that so that the seat tilting under you doesn't make your view tilt in VR 🤔
@g-10
@g-10 2 ай бұрын
@@tommybazar Compensation software exists. Whether it works well depends on many factors (specific game, environment, light conditions). Let's say this field is still for adventurers 😀
@FeNxKroNix
@FeNxKroNix 11 күн бұрын
A lot of sim driver use the base movement but it’s extra, take a lot of space/power/money and if you invest in the base movement you should invest also on the seatbelt motor to feel an extra with the seatkicker. After those 2 steps I think you can officially call it the supreme setup for sim driver.
@xescdelarosa3328
@xescdelarosa3328 2 ай бұрын
Now you need the airbag mod
@Ayyorda
@Ayyorda 2 ай бұрын
God this channel just makes me realize I need to be a better person and ACTUALLY DO SHIT that interests me. Great content as always man
@garrybartlett6853
@garrybartlett6853 2 ай бұрын
Make the jump... do the thing... You will regret what you don't do... Get a logitec g29, play seat is a good starting point and can be folded away... A sim rig can be expansive, yet there are ways to do a solid rig on a budget... I built my alu extrude rig for £250, they will charge you £350+... It's well worth the plunge...
@KitoRicho
@KitoRicho 2 ай бұрын
I love the way you consistently push something from excellent to even better excellence.
@PAIN-ot4cj
@PAIN-ot4cj 2 ай бұрын
mf it would have came out cheaper to buy the car at this point lmao
@mikkelsimonsen5923
@mikkelsimonsen5923 2 ай бұрын
He has a mclaren..... :P
@daricora
@daricora 2 ай бұрын
If you intend on tracking a car, a Sim is way cheaper. Even this one.
@BOZ_11
@BOZ_11 2 ай бұрын
@@mikkelsimonsen5923 so why doesnt he drive it instead of converting a big empty room into a driving simulator?
@JudahXCL
@JudahXCL 2 ай бұрын
​@@BOZ_11 Because...... You can't race on the city streets.......?
@trashcowew
@trashcowew 2 ай бұрын
@@BOZ_11 track days end up costing a lot
@costafilh0
@costafilh0 2 ай бұрын
2024: "I think I am finally done upgrading this thing" 2025: "so, I got a new 5090, motion system, new pedal, 4 more buttkickers and surround sound" 🤣
@Bigtubes
@Bigtubes 2 ай бұрын
Super cool set up. Butt Kicker commonly used under a drummers seat for drummers to feel the kick. It's great to have when playing drums and cool to see it getting used in other ways.
@Jimmy-i1q
@Jimmy-i1q 2 ай бұрын
Okay, I have been involved with sim racing for over 26 years, among the first to race online by connecting LAN over IP with a tool back then developed for DOOM. I spend a lot of money on this hobby over those years, always the latest hardware, the newest tech, lost count of hours driven (I'm 62 now). A FFB fan from day one, although the fast guys didn't like it, made being fast more difficult. This is exactly the reason why these days the fast guys don't have a motion rig, it makes things harder. Imagine a track like Sebring, I tell you, my vision is blurred pretty bad going into Sunset 17. I build my own motion rig years ago, a DIY SFX-100 at a fraction of the cost of ready to use motion rigs (I spend around 2.500 Euro's). Will it add to the experience? Let me put it like this, go and sit in your car on a parking lot, put your hand on the steering wheel and move it around.....now start making an engine sound.....doing it? Now, that is how a motionless rig feels for me after 4 years of motion 😂 But in the end it's what you want to achieve, realism or just fun. I see so many guys race sims and making video's talking about realism, while sitting so relaxed they could drink an espresso while driving.....yeh, that's real right....it's looks pretty stupid if you ask me.
@n9ne
@n9ne 2 ай бұрын
now i see the real use-case for 3d printing. that scanner totally changes everything.
@Horstelin
@Horstelin 2 ай бұрын
Could've achieved the same with ruler and calipers, just takes more iterations and time
@Grim-mler
@Grim-mler 2 ай бұрын
@@Horstelin "just takes more iterations and time" these can be pretty big downsides lmao
@Horstelin
@Horstelin 2 ай бұрын
@@Grim-mler yup, several thousand dollars for a 3d scanner too ;)
@rattanakouk4059
@rattanakouk4059 9 күн бұрын
the fact this guy just made custom mounts so nonchalantly is crazy
@TheManWithDAWs
@TheManWithDAWs 2 ай бұрын
4:12 bro wants to shake it down like ice spice
@Magdi_22
@Magdi_22 Ай бұрын
1:08 you know what else is massive.....
@BXTRRR
@BXTRRR Ай бұрын
loww tapppperrrr faddeeee 💔
@Maddex-u1l
@Maddex-u1l Ай бұрын
LOWWWWW TAPPPEEEERRRR FFAADDEEEE
@DVNEEXTERNTY
@DVNEEXTERNTY Ай бұрын
Low hanging fruit meme
@caiourusimracing248
@caiourusimracing248 Ай бұрын
En sim racing : volante +vr + sistema de vibracion = 99% , el resto suma algun granito , pero con lo mencionado obtienes el 99% y te diviertes casi como alguien con el setup del video. Hace años que corro en simracing y aprendi que mejorar el setup es algo adictivo , es como el perro con la zanahoria , nunca logras la perfeccion , pero cada cosas que agregas te da dopamina , me encantan las motos y es la misma sensacion empiezas con 400 cc , 600 cc , 1000 cc buscando algo mas.. lo mas importante es saber y poder disfrutar el setup que uno tiene.
@yannibunz
@yannibunz 2 ай бұрын
this and a 12 pack of coors light would make a good combo
@derfnam6627
@derfnam6627 Ай бұрын
legal drinking and driving
@malioh
@malioh 2 ай бұрын
this guy needs to start a damn peripheral company, the amount of time and effort he puts into all of his projects is insane
@CSOCSO
@CSOCSO 2 ай бұрын
The most impressive thing about this whole video is the scanning and 3d printing.
@BeamMine
@BeamMine 2 ай бұрын
It is impossible to explain how badly I want to try this
@ChaoticAssembly
@ChaoticAssembly 2 ай бұрын
The saddest part is 10 years ago there was incentive for a company to take this and innovate and reduce the price until the average consumer could get something like this for about $200-300 albeit at a much lower quality (same price as an avg. usable VR headset these days) but now it is different companies all trying making different parts and all want 200% margins and the setup is gonna cost 1000+ so only enthusiasts can afford it
@damianp5888
@damianp5888 2 ай бұрын
What exactly do you mean? "Take this and innovate"?
@jamesnorona1345
@jamesnorona1345 2 ай бұрын
This isn't really a consumer market. More prosumer than anything. It's not obtainable by the avg person.
@ChaoticAssembly
@ChaoticAssembly 2 ай бұрын
@@damianp5888 All this in one cheaper packaging instead of having to buy individual parts
@ChaoticAssembly
@ChaoticAssembly 2 ай бұрын
@@jamesnorona1345 That makes sense
@user-rt2sm5ny5r
@user-rt2sm5ny5r 2 ай бұрын
DD bases aren’t necessary. TM has base wheel combos that are more than enough for the average user. Used th8a and t3pa pedals and put the rest of the money into quality vr. Rate of return quickly diminishes in sim budgets.
@martinpickens2534
@martinpickens2534 Ай бұрын
Man as a vr enthusiast, I can imagine how real this probably feels. I was feeling mine blown playing this game just having a racing wheel and fan in vr.
@nicstroud
@nicstroud 2 ай бұрын
It looks absolutely awesome. I don't get the wind thing though. Most of the sims you were using were car based. Windows up cars. No wind. In the case of single seaters, you would, in real life, have a helmet on and while you would feel something, it wouldn't be the wind blowing in your face. Odd mod.
@alibee1978
@alibee1978 2 ай бұрын
I have it on my rig , your correct as it does nothing but cool you down
@arcrides6841
@arcrides6841 Ай бұрын
The point is to add more physical feedback to the experience. Cars can have windows down. Obviously you wouldn't race with windows down in a real car for multiple reasons but in a sim it simply adds immersion. A LOT of immersion. There's a reason so many people with very high end sims use them.
@NyahNyum
@NyahNyum 2 ай бұрын
In the late 90's, i used to hit or shake the chair where my brother was sitting while playing a video game, depending of what was happening on the screen, i called it "Real Shock", he didn't like that XD Happy to see that this concept exist now as the ButtKicker Btw, sublime setup and efforts put into this, thanks!
@FullMetalGooseYT
@FullMetalGooseYT 2 ай бұрын
Funny enough 'buttkicker' is a synonyme for 'big brother' :P
@EmilJonsson94
@EmilJonsson94 2 ай бұрын
You're really skilled at 3D printing and put so much effort into this one! You should consider drilling holes and routing the cable for ex: Butt kicker, within the frame. It would look amazing to have them hidden like that!
@idrisadelowo9724
@idrisadelowo9724 2 ай бұрын
Get the qubic QS-BT1 belt tensioner
@fastbudgie
@fastbudgie 2 ай бұрын
0:40 I wasn't looking at the super smooth footage. I was looking at the gimbal in the shadow from the window.
@quick2k3
@quick2k3 Ай бұрын
You definitely want the Sigma Integrale DK2+ and the Qubic BT-1 if you want to take the immersion to the next level. It will take a lot of tinkering to 'balance' the effects from each device (ActivePedal, Buttkicker, wheelbase, DK2+ and BT-1) so that all of the feedback effects don't get 'washed out'. For example, have the Buttkicker only responsible for road textures such as curbs and rumble strips, the DK2+ for pitch/roll, ActivePedal for ABS, BT-1 for heave/braking/shifts, and so on. If every device is trying to reproduce all of the effects, your brain/body is overloaded with inputs and the experience is completely ruined. Think about single channel audio vs a finely tuned Dolbey Atmos surround experience. When you get the balance right, the immersion is absolutely incredible--especially in VR. Your brain is completely fooled into feeling each effect layer individually and you really start to get a sense of what the car is doing. And I absolutely agree with others that said to mount the Buttkicker under the seat. You want take texture layer to be felt in the seat of your pants which is how you would feel curbs, etc in a real life car.
@Lesparta
@Lesparta 2 ай бұрын
What controller/trackpad are you using at 9:15 ? Thanks!
@DubleMeano
@DubleMeano 2 ай бұрын
9:42 What’s the handheld track pad + keyboard you are using to control the pc?
@MrNinfofan
@MrNinfofan 2 ай бұрын
Yeah that thing looks great, want to know as well, what is it?
@Yooabozo
@Yooabozo 2 ай бұрын
I hope to find out as well
@dod280
@dod280 2 ай бұрын
some one has to know, so curious
@josephgericke6599
@josephgericke6599 2 ай бұрын
Also wanna know
@jackedup733
@jackedup733 2 ай бұрын
same
@PedroDelgado724
@PedroDelgado724 2 ай бұрын
When i went to suzuka i rented a private sim with a crazy motion system and a single really wide screen with a simucube wheel base and honestly the motion is the best ive ever tried it really helps alot with feeling the balance and weight transfer of the car atleast for me it really helped was able to see an improvement of about 3.5 tenths around the suzuka track in the f1 cars which is a decent margin but when you mix the belt tensioner the motion and the heavy force feedback its borderline a workout
@Playingyeepshideandseek
@Playingyeepshideandseek 2 ай бұрын
That one unemployed friend:
@Spychu1993
@Spychu1993 2 ай бұрын
0:35 how rich do you have to be in order to trash talk such expensive chair lol?
@colacolagaming69
@colacolagaming69 2 ай бұрын
Max verstapens setup cost 35k
@StevenHawkingsSpitrag
@StevenHawkingsSpitrag 2 ай бұрын
@@colacolagaming69 he’s also the #1 F1 driver in the world, so that’s probably not an accurate comparison 😂😂
@genox28
@genox28 2 ай бұрын
I have the es1 and I find it cheaply made also. Just a plastic bucket seat. If I would buy again, I would choose a real racing bucket seat costs the same
@christopherperez9845
@christopherperez9845 2 ай бұрын
Expensive doesn’t always mean good
@travisgaming9211
@travisgaming9211 2 ай бұрын
@@StevenHawkingsSpitrag1#?Fr what’s his name I just started watching him
@johny79action
@johny79action Ай бұрын
The motion setup that Race Beyond Matter uses on his rig is awesome, he tried motion without wheel FFB too and his times actually improved without any wheel feel :).
@thegreenestpotato1770
@thegreenestpotato1770 2 ай бұрын
0:51 look at those demons.
@centuryt91
@centuryt91 2 ай бұрын
2:25 bruh just drill some holes wtf is wrong with you
@Bryce_y
@Bryce_y 2 ай бұрын
lmfao
@StevenHawkingsSpitrag
@StevenHawkingsSpitrag 2 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing, but on the other hand I could definitely see why someone would be hesitant to just start drilling into a multi thousand dollar rig. Especially if they have the knowledge, equipment, and funds to do it the way he did 🤷
@DeadguyRC
@DeadguyRC 4 күн бұрын
Rich people shit bro
@Conor6969_
@Conor6969_ Ай бұрын
seeing you go from leaving the throttle passive to possibly convinced to get the active throttle makes me really want to try active pedals lol
@yutakab8307
@yutakab8307 2 ай бұрын
"pappy" 3:31
@Yaboy_Roe
@Yaboy_Roe 15 күн бұрын
Lol 😂
@rongankin
@rongankin 2 ай бұрын
1:06 and you know what else is massive?
@faroukb.8475
@faroukb.8475 2 ай бұрын
the price right... right
@lilFlatX
@lilFlatX 2 ай бұрын
MY MOM
@Gamer_Central
@Gamer_Central 2 ай бұрын
LOOOOOOWWWWW TAPER FADE
@Spookypickle-ji2uf
@Spookypickle-ji2uf 2 ай бұрын
LOWWWWWWW TAPPPEEEERRR FADEEEEEE
@avertflipz
@avertflipz 2 ай бұрын
LOW TAPER FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEE
@JeannetteArmour-q7x
@JeannetteArmour-q7x Ай бұрын
Perfect, I would like to experience this feeling in my conspit formula cockpit, it should be very happy.
@peterbulk7830
@peterbulk7830 2 ай бұрын
Real Life Tony Stark
@Albert41122
@Albert41122 2 ай бұрын
faaar from that....
@BeigeVarsity
@BeigeVarsity 2 ай бұрын
He bruce wayne
@Kaiserschmarrn84
@Kaiserschmarrn84 2 ай бұрын
As a german i cant watch this video, youtube forced audio robot translation with weird german. Pls disabke this function when uploading its auto activated by google. I dont even have any possibility to change the audio, its horrible
@bunyaminyilmaz3798
@bunyaminyilmaz3798 2 ай бұрын
you can change it, i have done it also. Settings -> Audiotrack
@Kaiserschmarrn84
@Kaiserschmarrn84 2 ай бұрын
@@bunyaminyilmaz3798 you missed the point, there is no such option, thats the reason for my comment. Everyone know you can change the audiotrack in the options, but no option is available, the uploader has such option, its auto clicked by youtube to allow voice translation. As viewer you have no chance to change it on Phone. On Desktop YES i have multiple languages, but on my phone there is none, ZERO. On phone there is " Ambient, quality, speed, subtitels, unifyd audio, debug and statistics, thats all.
@misterfung
@misterfung 2 ай бұрын
Pure bananas man. Great insight into your scanning and modeling/printing work-flow. Impressive how far we have come....!!!!
@CousinMarvin
@CousinMarvin Ай бұрын
im so frustrated and angry at life. Im 44 now. im disabled for probably 25 years of my life. im broke. my parent are disabled and seniors who have helped me. i dont know what im going to do. I wish i could afford these things but i can barely afford to live. i wish i could work or have some idea that i could make money from while at home at my own scheculde since being disabled sucks. nobody helps. nobody cares. people pretend to care up until its time to gie money or actually help then they show how much they really dont care. i wish life was different or at least more fair.
@moggadog
@moggadog 10 күн бұрын
That’s sad.
@pukarkc8254
@pukarkc8254 10 күн бұрын
I can help you
@CousinMarvin
@CousinMarvin 9 күн бұрын
@ would be nice for sure
@RisenThe
@RisenThe 2 ай бұрын
And yet, you are entirely stationary. It's not even close to "real life".
@Jabukon
@Jabukon 10 күн бұрын
My neighbor is a successful GT racing driver. He told me that these seat movers feel off to him because they have just that little bit of delay that he would usually get instantly in his real car. That makes it difficult for him to react properly. But that might not apply to us regular non professional racing drivers
@tylerguest-p4p
@tylerguest-p4p Ай бұрын
This is as nice as any arcade racing game I've seen, if not better! Nice job.
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