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This week, the crew breaks down how an "October surprise" can change the course of a presidential election in its final weeks - and some of the most consequential ones in American election history. And there are a few brand new ones - from special counsel Jack Smith's filing on former president Donald Trump's immunity in his Jan. 6 legal case, to Hurricane Helene and the escalating war in the Middle East.
Later in the show, the crew breaks down the most interesting moments from Tuesday's vice-presidential debate - and which ones will stick in the public consciousness. Plus, the ongoing war on fact checking. Read more: wapo.st/4gSanBv. Subscribe to The Washington Post on KZbin: wapo.st/2QOdcqK
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[@juleskass5387]

Oh my goodness polling is not the same between both parties The Washington Post can't even tell the truth😂😂

[@vintagepyro3692]

WashingtonPost employees help traffic children for p3d0ph1l3s.

[@Nosugarcoatingme]

Women NO! Blacks NO! Latinos No! Young People NO! So where is Donnie's new voters coming from? Purges?

[@DannyWashburn-c8g]

You can never tell truth

[@zoundstreetop]

It wasn’t ironic. It was gaslighting.

[@jamesragsdale8202]

It was EVIL.

[@JS-ti8ny]

Gaslighting is ALL they have left in their bag of DemTricks. Moreover, *Do not leave children unattended around that CREEP TIM WALZ*

[@ygchung4589]

gaslighting

[@JS-ti8ny]

Democrap Marxists jews invented Gaslighting 3700 years ago. It works on the duped masses very well when they combine it with CENSORSHIP and media Coverups.

[@usaroxx8085]

Lolololololol No way!!! This is the october surprise? A repeat that was defeated already by SCOTUS? Lolololololol

[@SuperPellis]

I see why nobody watches WP 😂😂😂

[@nonasartnsa5231]

The biggest October surprise, Pumpkin stolen by President Trump is found in Jacko lantern's robe.

[@tmarkcommons174]

We should start using the terminology "pro-government control" or "anti-government control" of reproduction.

[@eddie7573]

Returning to the Jan 6 case narrative is not a good idea for Dems. First, a lot of the public views these prosecutions as political. The fact is that Democrats leaned way too much into this with the plethora of suits filed based on questionable legal theories and by prosecutors who ran on getting Trump. The latest Jack Smith filing also contains very little new info. Sure, It resonates with Harris' base and the folks on MSNBC, but I don't think as much with independent voters. Second, to that end, it would look like the Harris campaign is trying to change the subject from the most critical issues to likely voters: the economy and immigration. It would highlight that Harris is part of the current administration that has faltered terribly in these areas, and she would rather talk about something else.

[@tuckernaughton]

This is an insane take. Log off.

[@hwy1983]

This is how the law works. Only people who don't understand the effects of SCOTUS rulings or that DOJ operates independently from political parties, campaigns or candidates. It's more logical to suppose that people would like to see EVERYONE behind the January 6th riot tried in a court of law. Donald Trump's constant interference with this case has been an obvious delaying tactic, not an exoneration. As for the abundance of court cases you mention, I guess you mean all the pointless MAGA lawsuits hoping to overturn the actual results of the 2020 election. Completely separate cases. They lost. I think interested voters can handle complexity and new information. The uninterested will be among those who didn't track this in the first place.

[@eddie7573]

@@tuckernaughton Are you capable of explaning why you believe it to be "insane"? If you can't, maybe you should log off.

[@fayettegirl1472]

Why should they explain? You obviously live in an alternate reality (on Earth 2 with MAGA) & wouldn’t even try to understand.

[@JGH-wn3tb]

Most whites feel like you do and nonwhites in the sunken place. What are folks like you gonna do when 2040 comes?

[@gnweiss]

Save us from the DAMN lawyers

[@jiml7183]

Water under the bridge same old BS.

[@JeraldSlomka]

The Surprise comes From The Effective or Ineffectual Response .

[@TheAwflores]

blah blah blah these people are beyond annoying

[@Ultramaga21]

Thank God for President Trump and all the MAGA patriots fighting to save our Republic.

[@tuckernaughton]

Maga are not patriots. They attacked out country

[@MrWalker114]

Kamala today campaigning with Liz Cheney and ramping up the old Jan 6 rhetoric was startling in that 90% of voters we poll don't care and crazy but 65 percent forgot it even happened. I think internal polls are bleeding for Kamala and Walz and Liz Cheney is the Jump the Shark moment for the Democrats.

[@gigagigachad6716]

The biggest October surprise is President Trump’s ratings will rise to the highest ❤❤ America loves a great President

[@tuckernaughton]

Most Americans do not like trump

[@JGH-wn3tb]

Yes only among those who are willing and going to vote for him.

[@JS-ti8ny]

Jgh *Do not leave children unattended around that CREEP TIM WALZ* -Do you understand me now you dolt!?!!?!?

[@AZsunflower]

We do and T is not great, nor is he the president. He is in fact the worst president in history.

[@kirstenhale6080]

How so?

[@pektowanderlust]

When you are in power and lawfare is your last resort, it is no surprise at all...

[@chatgpt-n8r]

I wonder what the surprise will be?

[@nievesgarcia2494]

The things they do is lie and deny. They'll make and break more law's non stop.

[@JS-ti8ny]

Timmy gets his first annual period and will demonstrate to fellow TS CREEPS how to install a Tampon on a MAN! Satan will be guest speaker. PS - *Do not leave children unattended around that CREEP TIM WALZ*

[@edithvierck9342]

Are you for real?

[@WesleySnipes3568]

If you turn off the sound, you can still fully nail who these people are voting for. Why is that?

[@TheOleHermit]

SACK THE SOUND MAN! Audio is clipping :(

[@chrisgrimes7692]

Could we have moderator debates?

[@christianburgos2736]

OCTOBER SURPRISE means 'Kamala HUSB@ND'S right hand???

[@dawnoceanside7300]

Please don't forget, ron desanctimonious voted against hurricane Sandy aid!!! Sorry foriduh 🤭😉

[@JS-ti8ny]

Don’t forget, Kamala ain’t black even thou she walks and talks “black” when she’s in front of urban blacks but then she sounds “White” when talking to Kansas voters. Another PHONY Democrap Marxist Israeli Puppet.

[@philmares7474]

Vote Harris,Walz

[@ajlacostewm]

Looks like the surprise will be the beginning of ww3 .

[@VictoriaCarr-d8z]

Jack Smith is a determined SOB .

[@OMorales-pe4xq]

Ever see a dumb kid trying to put a circle peg in a square hole? Jack is persistent just like they are. Circle peg still doesn't ever fit but yeah they are persistent.

[@homiedclown2623]

Lol, Cackles is losing

[@boatnikdog]

So vance is focused on the future and yet he goes after Tim Walz's military record of 20 years ago. Okay.

[@cesarjlisboa7586]

I am just surprised how many women still vote for Trump? Can someone explain please?

[@matrixster6238]

Easy, they don’t prioritize a barbaric lifestyle. Abortions aren’t a necessity, just don’t have sex if you can’t handle the responsibility. And if you’re going to say “but what about violent rape?!?” Apparently crime is largely down these last few years, so that’s a big problem for the “healthcare agenda.”

[@GeraldJimerson-me3lo]

Yeah I can every w 😊 men don't believe in Abortion rights they care more about Family

[@ebonimynd4133]

I am voting for the Platinum Plan. I am voting because this I lost my home in this economy. I am voting because I throw a fit when I have to do groceries. I am voting because my quality of life has been worse under 😢his administration

[@margaretsmist7140]

Never mind women - who would consider a vote for someone who wants to dismantle the US? This country has failed miserably with civics education when 45 % of the population doesn’t understand Trump is an authoritarian and a criminal.

[@dawnoceanside7300]

Hand maidens? 🤭

[@AdrianClavijo]

Listening to the postcast on the app pocketcase and I had to switch over the KZbin video because on audio Libby Casey comes off as rude. On video you can see the tongue and cheek of Libby remarks. But on audio only she's interjects at the worst time and cuts people off and puts them down. I was very interested in the history of October surprises, Rhonda Colvin was raising a good point about the role of a VP. Not something to make light of. I was a bit annoyed that Libby was not letting people finish. But when I watched the video I could see the cordial banter.

[@thehaywire8889]

TRUMP ❤VANCE ❤KENNEDY 2024

[@ExploreAmerica]

Wow, my news channel gets more thumbs up then they get views and I’m just one person.

[@Jackson89949]

GOD BLESS US ALL IN JESUS NAME AMEN 🙏😇💙

[@rizzo919]

Democrats being sleazy till the very end.

[@andriesgrabowsky2717]

This blue woman talks too much but says nothing, if she has guests she should let them talk ?

[@matthewrink1704]

You liars

[@DannyWashburn-c8g]

We listen to know the peoples e who will take away free speech and that’s you just saying 😂😂😂trump 2024 now and for ever

[@JGH-wn3tb]

Trump like most of his supporters are white nationalists

[@kirstenhale6080]

Trump speech, in my humble opinion, is fake news. Who on earth wants to listen to what he has to say. No leadership quality or human values being reflected.

[@tuckernaughton]

I'll never forget January 6th and I will never forgive republicans for it. Ever.

[@billypardew2337]

Oh the humanity ...LOL Rigged the elections have consequences

[@JGH-wn3tb]

GOP is the party of white supremacy and nationalism and place for sellouts

[@decypherdust290]

What about the fentanyl deaths, more covid coming across border during that crises, more illegal , child and sex trafficking, terrorists(a new attempt was just thwarted by the CIA, was going to be the largest terrorist attack since 9/11. That’s just the start, thanks to Kamala’s open border. I’m guessing you’d rather forgive that? Biden’s war in Ukraine? Middle eastern war in Gaza and more? Leaving women behind that aided us in Afghanistan just to get raped? These were bidens, I’m guessing you forgive that? Whats the total death toll here?

[@WesleySnipes3568]

Apparently you haven’t heard the real story of what took place that day…

[@jamesfrangos4396]

WELL YOU BETTER INCLUDE PELOSI SHE IS THE CAUSE OF THE J6 RIOTS AT THE CAPITAL ON J6!! NOT PRESIDENT TRUIMP!! SHE TESTIFIED ON TAPE THAT SHE WILL TAKE THE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE RIOTS AT THE CAPITAL ON J6!! WE WILL NEVER FORGET J6 BUT PUT THE BLAME WHERE IT BELONGS!!! PELOSI IS THE BLAME FOR ASHLEY BABBITT'S DEATH TOO!! SHE WILL TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR HER!! HERE IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED ON J6 AT THE CAPITAL!! PRESIDENT TRUIMP ASKED PELOSI FOR 10,000 NATIONAL GUARDS TO HELP HIM AT THE CAPITAL AND PELOSI SAID NO!! SHE WASN'T GOING TO PUT ANY NATURAL GUARDS INTO THE CAPITAL ON J6!! THEN A CAPITAL POLICE OFFICER TESTIFIED AGAINST PELOSI FOR NOT SENDING IN MORE NATIONAL GUARDS INTO THE CAPITAL AND PELOSI SAID NO!! THEN HE CALLED PELOSI 11 TIMES BEFORE SHE ANSWERED!! AND WHEN SHE DID ANSWER THE CAPITAL POLICE OFFICER ASKED PELOSI FOR MORE 10,000 NATIONAL GUARDS TO HELP HIM AT THE CAPITAL. AND PELOSI TOLD HIM TO STAND DOWN!! SHE GAVE HIM THE STAND DOWN ORDER TO NOT GO INTO THE CAPITAL UNTILL AFTER 6:00 THAT IS WHEN PELOSI SENT IN THE FBI AND CIA DRESSED AS MAGA AND THEN SHE SENT IN THE BLM AND ANTIFA TERRORISTS GROUPS TO GO INTO THE CAPITAL AND CAUSE AS MUCH TROUBLE AS THEY COULD!! AND PELOSI JUST WATCHED AND DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! TO STOP THEM!! PELOSI HAD ORGANIZED THE WHOLE THING! THE RIOTS! THE FBI AND CIA NONE OF THIS WAS PRESIDENT TRUIMPS FAULT!! AND THEN SHE PUT ALL THE HOSTAGES OF THE CAPITAL IN JAIL FOR NO REASON!! FOR 3 AND HALF YEARS NOW!! PELOSI NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED AND CHARGED WITH TREASON AGAINST AMERICA AND AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP!!! AND THE HOSTAGES SHOULD BE LET OUT OF JAIL NOW!! IT'S ALL OVER PELOSI!! AND DON'T FORGET ABOUT HER INSIDE TRADING WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW!! PRESIDENT TRUIMP WILL WIN AGAIN IN NOVEMBER BY A HUGE LANDSLIDE FOR AMERICA!!!

[@nievesgarcia2494]

She's a smart first lady. She n knows what her husband is doing. Her security for the family. Her husband president Donald Trump is out fighting for us all Americans.

[@dawnoceanside7300]

MAGAts 🤯 🤭🤪🤣🤣🤣

[@AZsunflower]

This is not a surprise! T pushed for delay after delay. Then went to the SC. Jack Smith and the judge did exactly what the SC told them to do. If T had not interfered in the 2020 election this issue would not exist. 😊

[@OMorales-pe4xq]

Derp.

[@jamesfrangos4396]

HE DIDN'T INTERFERE WITH ANY ELECTION!! GEORGIA KNEW THAT THE STATE WAS PRESIDENT TRUMP'S!! HE WON GEORGIA IN 2020!! HE JUST ASKED IF ALL THE VOTES WERE IN!! AND AS A PRESIDENT OF AMERICA HE HAS ALLOWED TO ASK!!! JACK SMITH IS FINISHED!! HE IS BREAKING THE LAWS BECAUSE HE WASN'T ASSIGNED TO BE ON PRESIDENT TRUIMPS CASE!!! AND JUDGE CANNON SAID THAT HE WAS NOT ALLOWED TO BE ON THE CASE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S!! AND THAT JUDGE IS A OBAMA JUDGE!! THAT SAYS IT ALL!! THIS CASE IS CORRUPT BY JACK SMITH AND ALL THE EVIDENCE WILL ALL COME OUT BY GOD!! GOD SAID THAT FOR EVERYTHING THAT IS HIDDEN!! IN THE DARK! WILL ALL COME OUT INTO THE LITE!! WELL JACK SMITH THAT BRIGHT LIGHT OF GOD'S IS COMING SOON!! IT'S OVER JACK SMITH!! PRAISE GOD AMEN 🙏🙏 FOR THE OCTOBER SURPRISE!! PRAISE GOD AMEN 🙏🙏🙏🙏 REMEMBER THERE IS NOTHING IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD AMEN 🙏🙏

[@JS-ti8ny]

*Do not leave children unattended around that CREEP TIM WALZ*

[@darrenlauzon5943]

I thought this was satire.🥱

[@MariaFernandez-yj8gj]

DIOS. JESUS. ES. AMOR ❤❤❤❤❤ TRUMP. EL. MEJOR. PRESIDENTE. TRUMP 🙏👑🏆❤️TRUM❤ VICTORIA❤❤❤

[@gigagigachad6716]

The biggest October surprise is President Trump’s ratings will rise to the highest ❤❤ America loves a great President

[@rekunta]

Exactly, which is why _real_ Americans despise Trump.