Oda Confirms That Kizaru Helped Luffy... / One Piece SBS Volume 110

[@ayushnayak6138]

Knowing kizaru helped luffy makes me even more sad knowing he had to kill his best friend after that

[@TheHoppySr]

He didn't actually kill him tho. Just killed the "stella". For all we know he can just make a new stella body. I feel like it's similar to bonnie having to kill a pacifista

[@robertdyer339]

@@TheHoppySrif his brain wasn’t destroyed I believe he can come back and op don’t really kill ppl off

[@itsloney]

Bro not dead because a stella survived. Even said so in the manga but then again kizaru did still 'kill' his best friend.. which his scene with akainu was actual so sad!

[@ayushnayak6138]

@itsloney you know what I mean. Death means nothing to vegapunk but what about kizaru and his friend.

[@thefearturkey6944]

Never doubted my goat. Kizaru truly is the best uber driver

[@thetruth997_]

This is a feat. Kizaru perception blitzed everybody and could’ve ended Luffy if he wanted too 😂

[@jonathanbutler1020]

@@thetruth997_ LOUDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They doubted my goat. Also proves Kizaru is a tank. Everybody said that move put him down. His endurance is insane!

[@ye7625]

@@thetruth997_ Bro was also acting he was really hurt by White Star Gun when he was sneak feeding Goofy

[@mstr293]

​@@ye7625The problem is that Kizaru was still brought down on 2 occasions AFTER Vegapunk was down. His speed and stamina is no joke but his AP and durability is still in question. Apparently he couldn't use CoC either, neither did Luffy use ACoC vs him.

[@jakzelirizarry8446]

The goat of goats

[@mitthrawnuruodo1730]

Kizaru did that probably hoping Luffy would save vegapunk. Unfortunately it wasn’t enough and kizaru had to fulfill his mission

[@doublehit9165]

its also possible that his laser beam cauterized the injury and he wouldnt have died from that alone.

[@mitthrawnuruodo1730]

@@doublehit9165 no, the lazer beam punched a hole in his chest, not cauterized it

[@thetruth997_]

So Kizaru gave Luffy the perfect opportunity or alley oop and Luffy still let VP die

[@mav3622]

@@mitthrawnuruodo1730 If you look at chapter 1124 and see the "stab" from Kizaru's perspective it shows his sword going through the gaping hole that Saturn made on Vegapunk earlier, hinting that Kizaru decided to stop his friends heart because he was suffering as he was experiencing internal bleeding when Sanji was moving him. This is all the while Kizaru not knowing that Vegapunk requested to Sanji to allow him to die nor Sanji knowing the true intentions of Kizaru when he kicked him as he was moving Vegapunk. VP confirmed for all to hear if he was to be moved it would cause him suffering.

[@alexdavies5705]

No, bro, you don't understand. When Vegapunk made a plan to die, Kizaru is the one he asked to kill him. Kizaru did that so Luffy could get away. Vegapunk wants someone to find the one piece, and Kizaru knows Luffy is the guy. He's actually saved Luffy several times between sabaody and marineford. He brings Kuma to teleport the strawhats at sabaody, he knocks Luffy away from Akainu when Akainu and Luffy first meet, he later knocks Luffy again away from him into WB's hands, he calls off the attack on Law's submarine. Kizaru has been a good guy long before now. Rayleigh even weirdly calls him Kizaru-kun

[@Lords1997]

Interesting that Oda just puts in there that in the world of OP not everyone who is strong is either just a pirate or marine, but rather there’s random strong people who serve as possibly doctors, police, etc.

[@bricedbeginner]

I honestly love that

[@millasboo]

Yeah but it’s not uncommon

[@FilthyToes14267]

Baki but in one piece

[@nolans1675]

I like it, it’s how the replacement admirals were selected and places like Wano have strong ppl since they’re a standalone country.

[@aydinsha]

That's what I liked about the end of YuYu Hakusho when the demons are holding a tournament to pick who will be the king. Random characters we've never seen showed up that were as strong as the main characters, and in fact one of them happened to win.

[@DDKoD]

I bet the reason no one knows about Fujitora being a war criminal is because the Aoi Kingdom “never existed”

[@louisromulo4250]

Ok Einstein

[@millasboo]

Exactly

[@specter2712]

Not really War between kingdoms exists in one piece probably something like the war in germa 66 backstory, not everything has to be grand and connected the world of op is vast

[@KapnSpauldinG]

The last survivor of a " lulusia " situation eh

[@DDKoD]

@@KapnSpauldinG what’s lulusia? 😉

[@TheOne-pu6um]

I was curious about how Fujitora and Ryokugyu just suddenly showed up as admirals despite not having any background in the marines when it took decades for the others to reach their positions. But it does make sense as Akainu wanted to build up the marines as fast as possible and took shortcuts to getting powerful people to fill in any gaps in the higher ranks. He saw it as a better option than promoting the vice admirals who were nowhere near the level of strength required to become one. Also I like that not every powerful person is consigned to one group (pirates or marines) and could have just not been interested and had other positions they were in. If Kaido had never been sold out by the Vodka kingdom to the marines he probably would have ended up the same way by being in a high position in his original country.

[@rushnafwadud]

Also remember, Kizaru’s motto is “Unclear Justice”. All his actions are also random, because he’s unclear about what he should be doing, which matches with his actions for and against his friends at Egghead.

[@i_am_dusky113]

Poor kizaru man. He was prolly going crazy because that’s all he could do to help them

[@truefranck]

So Kizaru could've killed Luffy? 😱🤯🤯🙀 So Admiral are also very strong.

[@mstr293]

Stronger than Luffy? Not really! As powerful Gear 5 is, it has serious stamina/time limit issues. All Kizaru needed to do is to keep exhausting Luffy until he gasses out completely into "old man" form. No haki, no energy and no physical durability from his DF, anyone can easiliy kill him.

[@mstr293]

Dude's speed is above Luffy but dude has no AP or durability feats as he relied too much on his logia. He doesn't even have ACoC, apparently.

[@goatboy1827]

@@mstr293what point are u trying to make we didn’t even see him go all out so we wouldn’t know and he could’ve killed luffy

[@kagelynx]

​@@mstr293 cry more 😂

[@allencastro9344]

​​@@mstr293Kizaru could have impregnated Luffy while he was inflated and weakened 😂

[@_yrb3539]

So oda just confirmed that he wasn’t actually immobile and perception blitzed everyone in the vicinity and not only could’ve killed luffy who was completely out of it but killed Vegapunk aswell and ended the entire arc… noted (Kizaru is stronger Its not that close to me any more)

[@AlexGuzman-ff1ud]

Neither kizaru or luffy were going serious majority of the arc my guy put it to rest already .

[@_yrb3539]

@ luffy was what reason did he have not to be serious when his crew and Vegapunk were in danger he was holding ussop by the throat and was shooting at the tank that they were in

[@AlexGuzman-ff1ud]

@@_yrb3539 the only time luffy seemed serious was when he grabbed Saturn and kizaru at the same time lol , plus he didn’t seems worried about mars either later in the arc .

[@_yrb3539]

@ it sounds like you you’re not using any canonical evidence to base your claims off of your just saying it seems like to you but that’s just a baseless assumption and btw he grabbed Kizaru from kizaru from behind and took little to no substantial damage so I hope you don’t think that’s a feat 😂

[@AlexGuzman-ff1ud]

@ no evidence??? Brother it literally happened in the manga go back and read it lol

[@mastashake2020]

I just assumed luffy was making his cloths rubber like he does with the environment around him when he's in gear 5 and becomes giant and that's why his cloths didn't rip.

[@marcuswilliams5255]

What I find hilarious is that, of all the wild stuff that occurs in One Piece, his clothes not ripping when he grows is one of the things that is questioned. There are people riding bicycles on the ocean

[@TheDarkestKnight_x]

2.33 is 7’7. 180cm is rounded to 5”11. 205 cm is 6’8 1/2, 167 is almost 5’6. 165 is rounded to 5’5. 179 is 5’10 1/2

[@mariaaquino3678]

Wait how does kizaru speed blitzing everyone after getting hit with one of luffy’s strongest attacks and then feeding him mean he thinks luffy is stronger than him???? This means kizaru could’ve literally killed luffy right there wtf!? Kizaru > Luffy and without awakening too crazy

[@mstr293]

The Stargun may be one of his stronger attacks, but we know he can dish out far more than that. The gap between Stargun and the Bajarang Gun is literally massive as the latter is a literal Island-buster.

[@mstr293]

Speed and stamina goes to Kizaru while Luffy has the AP and durability feats. Reminders that Luffy was never seen using ACoC/ryou vs Kizaru while Kizaru doesn't have CoC.

[@kagelynx]

It wouldn't make sense if Luffy could win 1v1. We still have a lot of story left

[@mariaaquino3678]

@@mstr293 nothing says that at all, just because it’s bigger doesn’t mean it’s better, I think it’s G5 version of red hawk because it has flames and bajarang gun is G5 version of elephant gun, I scale red hawk > elephant gun

[@thetruth997_]

Luffy went all out the whole fight but Kizaru was playing around lol and when Luffy was down Kizaru could’ve ended Luffy’s life 😂

[@admiralcon.doriano8026]

admirals!!!!!!

[@jaidensantoyo8085]

Not to mention he challenged Akainu afterwards. I'm pretty sure Kizaru was holding back a bit.

[@admiralcon.doriano8026]

@@jaidensantoyo8085 not just a bit lmao.

[@jaidensantoyo8085]

@@admiralcon.doriano8026 That's what I'm saying he was holding back and no not just a bit. Oda just showed a statement during his Q and A's that he gave Luffy food during his fight with Saturn.

[@admiralcon.doriano8026]

@@jaidensantoyo8085 then my bad i thought you said kizaru was holding back a bit, but he was massively holding back. and yes the recent news turns this ''draw'' to win obviously. because it proves that kizaru was never paralyzed!!!!!

[@Lords1997]

Yuma-kun asking all the right questions; Oda needs to do an uncensored version when this all ends😩

[@dustysgap4297]

I like Ryokugu’s backstory. It potentially explains why he’s an Akainu fan boy if he broke him out of prison

[@ayushnayak6138]

You know garp didn't become an admiral and fujitora did. Despite hating wg. Maybe he blinded himself so he doesn't have to look at the scum he is serving.

[@esteviajero]

Luffy on literal fraud watch.... He actually lost to kizaru

[@mstr293]

Not because Kizaru is stronger or anything. Luffy's Gear 5 still has that time limit issue. Regardless of how strong like Kaido or how weak like Lucci, there is a point where Luffy will "gass out" even at full stamina. Reminders that Kizaru kept fleeing from Luffy while he is on Gear 5 to focus on Vegapunk.

[@mstr293]

I EVEN AGREE WITH YOU THAT KIZARU WOULD'VE WON THAT FIGHT! But people are getting it wrong and fail to understand the context.

[@TeamStudNation1280]

Koby can't be 5'4. When he appeared in the Enies Lobby aftermath, he was nearly the same height as Luffy...

[@theoneaboveallothers]

He’s 5’9

[@tunnelvision7906]

He’s Canadian he doesent know cm to feet conversion

[@gdn5001]

Luffy couldn’t save Vegapunk even with Kizaru helping him, just how big of a fraud is Luffy 😂

[@MrVijman]

As of now Koby Mickey Mouse Nuke fist over that WEAAK all star gun by Luffy. I say that painfully. What TKO if man is blitzing at the speed of light feeding his opp. Inflation boyz who got packed up by Mr3 yet they could handle dem goresei Bonney can go Gear 5 like it's nada. Luffy awakened his power so she can fly Zoro(+Luffy base form) can't move fly(i'm talking Gepo activity not shave) on his own without some aid while Koby moonwalking all over da scene Luffy fruit forever killing him while every other DF holder moving freely with no cost of life span awakened or not Luffy's punches won't have narrative impact if peeps can still blitz around n feed senzu beanz to the OPPS Katakuri really felt bad for putting a hole in Luffy n let him slide while laying on his back because Luffy didn't laugh at his bubble jaw face Kaido n big mom took their first baths in years in that lava, could say it was a forced spa day for 20years of slavery of the people of Wano Old and Slow haki man Garp got singlehandedly stopped by Sengoku Shanks has to boost off his boat n jump from platform to platform to reach an opp meanwhile Haki man Garp flies across an island to deliver a quick galaxy divide just to inspire his students. Sorry for the rant but faq why do i feel like i'm being rug pulled cause i would argue someone calling Luffy a fraud but now i have no feeling to fight that and now i'm waiting for Koby to stand over Luffy.(Saying that is devastating for my head canon)

[@mstr293]

Even after Vegapunk went down Kizaru couldn't tank ONE attack from Gear 5 Luffy. If Gear 5 doesn't have stamina issues, Kizaru will be down constantly.

[@thewhopper411]

Makes sense as I expected an admiral put up more of a fight against a Yonko before getting beat.

[@mstr293]

The fight shows me something about Kizaru. This SBS proves that Kizaru would've won vs Luffy. Not because he was stronger, but dude kept playing "cat-and-mouse" vs Luffy considering Gear 5 has a time limit. Luffy is shown to dodge or take damage from Kizaru and even deal heavy ones on the Admiral (one-shots each). So I doubt Kizaru would have a chance if he went "Kaido" and fought Luffy head-on. This fight proves that you don't need brute strength alone like in Dragon Ball to win fights.

[@kagelynx]

Uno reverse. The admiral spared the yonko.

[@bonifacewomber125]

Man shout out to my boy the corporate cog bro has a real heart and you really gotta fill form

[@THUKUNA.........C]

Kizaru was also acting like he was down and got called out by saturn

[@mokaljordan]

Oda seem to try hard to make kizaru annoying unclear it seemed to be effective as it worked on the fanbase, having fans divided if kizaru fed luffy or not, if kizaru would turn on saturn or not, if kizaru cauterized vegapunk's wound or not, if kizaru would sacrifice himself stalling the gorosei or not after hearing vegapunk's broadcast or not, you get the point lol, kizaru feeding luffy makes sense but was iffy at the time

[@MrMelon92]

180cm is not 5'9". I'm 181cm which is 5'11"/71 inches.

[@TheDarkestKnight_x]

I know right, almost all his measurements were wrong 2.33 is 7’7. 180cm is rounded up 5”11. 205 cm is 6’8 1/2, 167 is almost 5’6. 165 is rounded up to 5’5. 179 is 5’10 1/2

[@mathieuleader8601]

dark timeline Jinbe looks like a villain from the cartoon El Tigre

[@helioskc6635]

monkey luggy getting all the help he needs. max lvl plot armor indeed

[@Zabazoro]

You still seem to be forgetting about the warp warp fruit man Van Auger

[@zsmokeyy-_-2890]

U keep spreading misinformation!! Luffy isn’t stronger than kizaru

[@millasboo]

Exactly

[@GearHIM]

So y'all both spreading misinformation. Mf ain't even stronger than Aokiji and you believe he's stronger than Luffy? The same mf who was manhandling that oil lantern? Yeah okay 😂😂

[@thetruth997_]

Yeah this doesn’t make Luffy look good at all

[@millasboo]

@@GearHIM uhh who lost the first round?

[@shinichikudo1401]

Luffy > Kizaru & Saturn!

[@anthonygarcia8286]

i wonder the other instances before that the admirals seen the gorosei

[@CreatorsHubCreates]

I want people to understand Greenbulls backstory was said by oda to be tragic involving a women in another sbs. He didn’t assault a woman 😭

[@Zabazoro]

Also in some scientific theories warping is in deed at the speed of light

[@Paopao621]

Man, kizaru is now my favorite admiral, he's definitely cooking something, he's not just a cog

[@mav3622]

If you look at chapter 1124 and see the "stab" from Kizaru's perspective it shows his sword going through the gaping hole that Saturn made on Vegapunk earlier, hinting it was to stop Vegapunk's heart because he was suffering. This is all the while Kizaru not knowing VP requested to Sanji to allow him to die, nor Sanji knowing the true intentions of Kizaru when he kicked him to make him drop VP. It was shown in the manga that VP confirmed for everyone to hear (maybe intentionally since he wanted to die) that if he were to be moved it would kill him faster due to internal bleeding. As he is being moved he cries out in pain and thats when Kizaru intercepts Sanji. I believe Kizaru gave the food to save Bonney, which ultimately was a success. I also believe Kizaru will leave an ally with the Strawhats when he finds out that VP survives in the other Satellites when he runs into Lilith.

[@galaxyomega2839]

Fujitora backstory is him first eating his devil fruit and dropping a meteor on the kingdom nuking the place boom war criminal ☄️☄️☄️

[@leikthaleak]

Koby and Luffy are the same height after koby's growth spurt

[@millasboo]

5:42 Why are you adding on bs that wasn’t said? He wasn’t stated to have his logia at that time. He just was strong

[@jay_officialtv4000]

If kizaru don’t die or get injured for saving Bonny will be super funny 😂😂😂😂😂

[@burtkocain6846]

Kizaru had a change of heart after he got TKO'd. There's a panel before Luffy gets the food where he thinks "Kuma... Bonney...", and then bam, Luffy suddenly gets all this food. Prior to this, I think Kizaru was committed to his duty, and he still deleted Vegapunk anyway, likely assuming it was inevitable. He and Luffy were both doing their best to fulfill their mission, neither going full-throttle against the other. I'm neither a Yonkofart or Admiralstan. I think Luffy and Kizaru are roughly equal, but neither was aiming to merk the other - just get them out of the way.

[@hmmmmname]

Can't wait to see how pissy the powerscalers are gonna get with Kizaru (or whoever, in case Oda decides to pull something) "just" moving at the speed of light, perception blitzing everyone nearby.

[@blazedell420]

I love it if Oda made a twist and the sun was another way to heal Luffy’s grandpa form when he’s gassed out after using gear five and Loki being the sun God it would be sweet of his power had something to do with the sunlight and that he could fucking keep Luffy at 100% all the time with his son God powernow I know it’s probably isn’t gonna happen, but that would be kind of a cool twist

[@alexmojarro2065]

So luffy has rallied kizaru plus fujitora and kuzan for the final war I really wonder who will be the new admiral besides koby filling a spot in the future

[@johnphillipsjr9700]

Oda is making this shit up as he goes. He probably full blow forgot about that shit 😂

[@millasboo]

3:55 Well that was a lie. He did it most likely to make it all look better for them both not because of strength

[@Aslavetofreedom]

Kizaru helping joyboy (nika) anyway he can he still believe and remember the tales and dances of nika

[@sSthesquadSs]

Finally no more kizaru slander !!!!

[@kagelynx]

Kizaru manipulated Luffy into thinking Luffy won, but you still think Luffy is stronger? 🤔

[@E.E.L_GAMING]

Came here to learn about Kizaru, learnt about Luffy slong.

[@ariindny88]

" 5"4, that's more relatable to you guys" lmao

[@bensylver5113]

Girl height

[@2DottyGz]

Fujitora goes to the revolutionary army I’m betting u 100$ right now 😂

[@victorbowen1693]

Odds like do you want all 74 gomu gums out

[@animefan77]

Borsalino is going to get in big trouble when the W.G finds out about this.

[@mokaljordan]

Its interesting how greenbull and fujitora are drafted as the highest soliders in the marines inspite of being criminals making them similar to the warlords although im sure theres more to greenbull and fujitoras story i.e. greenbull could of been a clyde to the womans bonney and he got setup and fujitora probaly also got setup due to corruption of the king of the blue kingdom

[@Toni.dZ24]

Kizaru fruit is way overpowered but the plot have to limit it

[@The_present-vy6hx]

Kizaru would've nuked wano out of existence , bro wasnt joking when he said " shall i head out sakazuki "

[@gemodemplay415]

Kizaru is 58 and his best friends are some people he randomly spent 6 months with only a few years ago. Feels weird but I get it, Oda had to fit these characters into the same flashback somehow.

[@millasboo]

It wasn’t just 6 months mate. That was how long it took to set everything up. He helped raised Sentomaru with Vegapunk. Literally they’re like 8 years apart he knew Vegapunk for years if not decades as he also was the cause for the light beams for the px

[@DopamineeClips]

He spent decades with vegapunk. He even helped him build egghead island

[@xavieriwundu9601]

I’m pretty sure their relationship spans across years

[@mav3622]

I believe since Sabaody in 2008 it was always hinted that Sentomaru and Kizaru are linked to Vegapunk and Kuma. Sentomaru for name dropping Vegapunk and Kizaru because the pacifistas can copy his laser beams. The surprise is he was actually his best friend, helped build the island, spent a solid daily six months with everyone, danced the Nika dance with all of them, was sad he had to do what he did in the end.

[@2DGorillaz22]

people seriously asking why luffys clothes grow with him like he has toon powers he made kizarus head stretch

[@BoomBoxBlaz]

"I know is stronger than me.". Kizaru is not weaker than Luffy, this proves he was being casual throughout the entire fight.

[@mstr293]

Neither was Luffy going all out. People forget that during the Lucci fight Luffy will gas out after a short time regardless of how weak the enemy is. Kizaru could've defeated Luffy not because he was stronger, but he kept fleeing from Luffy's eyes when he was using Gear 5 considering the time limit.

[@mstr293]

When did you see Luffy use ACoC or ryou during the fight? Where was the sky splits? No Bajarang Gun. Kizaru doesn't even have CoC apparently!

[@benbaker4198]

Kizaru will help luffy at the end of one piece and I said this as soon as the panel that stated he was on his way too egghead I thought it would shadow blackbeard

[@kidkante]

Good SBS this time.

[@ILikeGuns1992]

For once my theory turned out correct. xD Kizaru feeding Luffy one. Yeah, it seems there are some Admiral level dudes just chilling in One Piece World lol.

[@josefajardo8604]

Vegapunk ask kizaru if the moment ever came he would like to be kill by a friend so kizaru only did wha vegapunk had ask manny years prior from him

[@oddiunapologetic]

Only boa Hancock and the ladies of amazon lily would want to see luffy's ting flopping in the wind, when goes gigantic 😅

[@iFondelForFun]

It was actually Van Augur with the Warp fruit. Made the BB pirates job easier if World Gov was Scrapping with Straw Hats

[@luis15317]

Arguing against Odas words? Lol.

[@iFondelForFun]

@luis15317 Augur makes more sense being faster than light and being a 4th party unknown. Logistically where is kizaru getting the food? How does he know food restores his power and if he could perception blitz the whole cast and was willing to kill Vega why waste the time with the initial fight. If it was kizaru 100% he would have said his name imo. I really couldn't care less. Augur narratively is the best option considering BB pirates goal at the time

[@luis15317]

@iFondelForFun ODA SAID IT WAS KIZARU FFS wth is wrong with you 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ good lord. Augur wasn't mentioned as one of the four possibilities. And Kizaru was in Eggheadnhe knows about then Food Machines and Luffy screamed "Food" that's enough for Kizaru to know. And it was not teleportation or "faster" than light, It literally WAS speed of light. Holy hell why are some people like that 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@iFondelForFun]

@luis15317 take it up with Oda. Not my fault he didn't think of a proper way to rejuvenate luffy at the time. Until he says it was Kizaru and not blink of an eye or light speed, I'll continue trying to make it make sense narratively. Just a manga kiddo

[@luis15317]

@iFondelForFun but he said it was kizaru lil bud. Who cares what you continue thinking but if you share your "ideas" openly in public comment sections then expect others to correct you. It was Kizaru period. And it absolutely does make sense for it being Kitaru more than anyone else (except his own grew but then they would openly say it).

[@YayoHernandez-b1j]

for real oh yeah

[@kagelynx]

G5 still isn't enough for top tiers

[@STRAWHAT25]

I knew it was Kizaru.

[@thuto9490]

Why are you saying Kizaru allegedly?? Like Ay from Natruto has a light speed attack so people questioning Kizarus speed is soo fucking stupid this is anime it's not real and anime or manga characters can break conventional means of logic or science. Not every anime or manga will depict light speed the same way it's portrayed in one punch man. This conversation is soon tedious because people wanna give their favorite verse light speed but wanna deny that fact for one piece when it's shown and stated in the manga. So put some respect on Kizarus name

[@stevecavalle]

Oda make a joke and trolls and Admirals fans use that to perduade themselves that their agenda is right

[@donrog5035]

Cope harder.

[@stevecavalle]

@donrog5035 look like taking a Joke as a factual thing IS less crazy than what I Said WE live in strange Time nowadays

[@LightingOfTheRedHawk]

Did Oda himself told you that he was joking? These yonko glazers are sad lol

[@stevecavalle]

@@LightingOfTheRedHawk nope but I know enough SBS to know that in his SBS Oda only answear about non spoilers questions or World building questions that dont spoils anything and when it spoils something he jokes or trolls to not answear the question

[@LightingOfTheRedHawk]

@@stevecavalle so you are just delusional and don't want to accept a fact that you don't like, got it

[@chito2701]

imagine if KIZARU becomes a strawhat.

[@mav3622]

This will come true for the sole reason that Oda confirmed Kuzan is actually a member of the BB pirates and is responsible for "many casualties" as a BB pirate. The Strawhats will likely also receive a former admiral and Fujitora makes little sense since he has not met the whole crew Akainu killed Ace and only Luffy and Jinbei have met him Greenbull wanted to decapitate Luffy in wano for Akainu praise Besides Kuzan, Borsalino has been a thorn in the side twice for the entire crew. The crew have escaped him twice. Luffy has met Kizaru three times if you include Marineford. Luffy was powerless to stop Kizaru at Sabaody, tried to fight him at Marineford unscuessfully, and then they both stalemated at Egghead. Kizaru and Luffy are clearly linked in the story. Next time they run across him will no longer be as enemies and Luffy may just invite him to ally with the crew.

[@jonathanrobinson3726]

If luffy can CHNAGE EVERYTHING RUBBER WHY WOULDNT HIS CLOTHES GET OUT OF HERE

[@tropixi5336]

but why would he help luffy?? i thought he hated him?

[@kaidengrover182]

Kobe Is a little guy

[@fanjiangshen]

meaning that kizaru is still stronger than Luffy

[@horacesmith1959]

Kizaru ❌Keezeroo ✅

[@oumardiallo7701]

This is garbage, so luffy is not stronger than kizaru , this bullshit kills feat factor of defeating kizaru , because he wasn’t really defeated

[@mav3622]

I do not think Kizaru was meant to be the antagonist of the arc. It was always the world government. They stalemated in the fight Saturn shows up and tells all Marines to point there guns at Bonneys head a standby for the order to shoot. Kizaru wont attack Saturn himself to save Bonney but he knew if Luffy gets back in the fight there is a chance to save her. Everyone else was paralyzed and Saturn would not think twice to paralyze Kizaru so he took this opportunity. At least that is what I feel Oda was going for.

[@michaelajayi6]

I don't think Luffy is stronger than him

[@LycanDGV]

No lie. It sounded more like Oda was referring to Sanji. Sanji has an instinct to sense when Luffy is hungry. Seeing how Sanji moved at BIG Mom tea party where Katakuri only seen him move to save pudding. It coukd be possible sanji was able to get food to luffy because he's luffy's cook.

[@thetruth997_]

Cope lmao

[@LycanDGV]

@thetruth997_ no need to. It's soda who's showing us these things. If it was kizaru, Oda would've been a little more clear than that. But he referenced something that was used to explain how fast sanji was moving since egghead when he saved Edison. No one literally seen him move.

[@thetruth997_]

@ It was Kizaru bro.

[@LycanDGV]

@thetruth997_ but Sanji bringing luffy the food is farfetched? Do you not remember what sanji was moving like when he caught kizaru off guard in egghead? Why can't the literal chef be the one that gave luffy the food knowing oda foreshadowed him moving at lightspeed in different times. The time when he saved pudding, Edison, and when fighting Queen and kizaru.

[@yesmang8572]

@@LycanDGV Your reasons are right actually. IT would 100 percent be sanji except that Saturn had him and bonney paralyzed at this moment. At thtat point, it makes a lot more sense that kizaru helped luffy in the hopes of at least saving his non-fucked friends like sentomaru and bonney compared to Vegapunk who was already stabbed by saturn and couldn't move. Makes a lot more sense than sanji somehow getting out of the eye stare thing and blitzing everyone then coming back to pretend to be stunned. Kizaru is unclear justice and a coward after all, its perfectly in character for him to try this compared to outright fighting the WG to save vegapunk. Think garp during marineford. Yes kizaru did end up finishing vegapunk after, but again hes a bitch in his ideals. Like an indecisive snape, does make him a lot more interesting than some dog who smokes weed too much. He had to keep up appearences while trying to save what he could. Hence why he destroyed sentomaru but didn't kill him or make sure to do something so he wouldn't be able to move and help luffy out more like he ended up doing. Although thats kinda a weak argument considering lucci did the same thing lol.

[@slimmy478-6]

Admiral fanboys using this to claim Lizaru is stronger than G5 🤡

[@proneetchowdhury2667]

Your boy's acoc coated attack didn't make kizaru bleed a drop of blood . He got up and fed luffy . Lmao bro had to be fed by his own opponent. Lol .

[@slimmy478-6]

@proneetchowdhury2667 acoc coated attack 🤡 You clowns were saying his first kick to kizaru was acoc coated 🤡 Yonkou mugiwara made him cough out blood without acoc Cope Admirals are fodders

[@MillenniumEarl014]

Kizaru is the goat

[@justacoolguy336]

That's bs. I think oda is trolling because he completely forgot about that lol. It makes no sense from a story stand point. Why help luffy just to kill vegapunk yourself? Oda isn't the type to have things not make sense. I think oda is just in a bind because he has to find a way to hinder luffy with his stamina issue but also make things make sense and this isn't something that makes sense

[@LightingOfTheRedHawk]

Cope harder

[@justacoolguy336]

@LightingOfTheRedHawk ease off kizarus nuts

[@toyinaboko-cole2015]

​@@justacoolguy336How about you stop Coping Hard and Just accept the Damn Authors Statement.🤡

[@justacoolguy336]

@toyinaboko-cole2015 suk ya mudda clown. It's not coping lol luffy still stomps that fraud. It makes no sense from a story standpoint wtf would I be coping over? Dumb mf

[@bensylver5113]

Please stop me?

[@nosauceorbrothchild8772]

Nah, Kizaru > Luffy.

[@kollen5952]

This confirms that there are two versions of gear 5, the serious one and the playful. Luffy grabbed kizaru twice, he throws him away first occasion and squished and did a powerful named attack on the second. That being said, one piece fights are the worst in any shonen manga, the author didnt draw the conquerors sparks on luffy attacks and the whole fight extend to just 15 pages . one thing I know for sure is that current luffy is stronger than kaido In wano, Kaido was in his prime, while luffy entered onigashima without his 2 major power ups that he had to learn trough getting spanked. At the end of wano, kaido was arguably still stronger than luffy and maybe egghead's luffy close the gap. Egghead's gear 5 is much stronger than the version kaido faced, for it has new techniques and at least 10 stronger named attacks, plus it's current speed to match the pika pika no mi. In wano it was his first time ever using it. However, currently Oda has given another HUGE upgrade to luffy : unlimited gear 4. The debate about luffy and kaido is now over. Even before wano's version of gear 5, on chapter 1037 kaido states : ITS been many years since someone was abble to go toe to toe with me, kaido goes on drunken mode + the second level of his híbrid form. At that time kaido was already recognizing luffy. Now we have unlimited gear 4 and a stronger gear 5. Goofy is now a whole ass island stronger than he was in Wano, so that means he could beat Kaido a thousand times over. We are not heading to the end of the series anymore, this IS the end of the series.

[@millasboo]

No it doesn’t it literally doesn’t confirm anything. Luffy was drained of stamina in both fights

[@kollen5952]

@@millasboo not really. Luffy can restart his heart if he wishes to go back on gear 5. In egghead there are only 2 painnels of him using conquerors haki, whihc means he had a full suplie of haki to spam if he wishes as well

[@thetruth997_]

@@kollen5952 Yall disingenuous Luffy stans are so weird. Just admit that Kizaru wasn’t going all out and was even helping Luffy cuz he truly didn’t wanna kill VP. Luffy was using a bunch of haki and Gear 5, if we find out that Kizaru was hiding a logia awakening too lmao oh boy 😂

[@kollen5952]

@@thetruth997_ prove that luffy uses conquerors in gear 3 and gear 5 . Prove it. Lets talk about what actually is in the manga

[@KingcarterJ1002]

First

[@McBeth2322]

To keep it simple the Admirals are way closer to “Yonko lvl”(Fan made construct) in terms of strength than fucking “Commander lvl”(Fan made construct). Akainu VS WB & the entire WB pirates with Crocodile & Ivankov in Marineford without being defeated. Fujitora never got touched physically in dressrosa; blocking all attacks in every interaction VS characters. GreenBull VS a weakened King & Queen; faced Yamato & the remnants of the Scabbers(Inu & Neko) then later defeated & captured Weevil. Lastly Kizaru who countered; speed blitz & possibly one shot post wano gear 4 Luffy; then fought & outperformed 1 round of gear 5 while mentally conflicted. And we know Akainu now is definitively stronger than Kizaru. Everything else use to counter this is just plot & misinterpretations of their characters & the situation. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3XIinmhYt2Yi8ksi=ZZ-3LVfw9N60LmXQ (Fun Fact:Did you know that every definitive strongest Admiral(Fleet Admiral candidates at least) has a relationship/dynamic with every def. Strongest/own the era pirate(Not Pirate King or Yonko)? Kong-Xebec; Garp-Roger; SenGoku-WB; Akainu-Luffy; & Aokiji-BB. There’s a reason why Oda has introduced the concept of the world’s strongest; Mihawk & WB before the Yonko. Throughout the series it’s constantly been proven that the term Yonko itself is not a strength based title. The way we use “Yonko lvl” in the community really should be Fleet Admiral lvl; we need to fix this as a community!)

[@codyjacobson4905]

only other option is Sanji cause of queens statement in wano

[@millasboo]

No it’s not sanji couldn’t move at all

[@SCP-38I2]

Franky and Sanji were controlled by Saturn

[@toyinaboko-cole2015]

Jesus the Cope is Crazy!!

[@codyjacobson4905]

lol all these people getting mad cause I stated something, like I know it’s kizaru who gave him the food,he’s arguably the strongest admiral and the only one who wasn’t being affected by saturn, I just pointed out that sanji was able to move faster than queen could perceive

[@proneetchowdhury2667]

He was paralyzed

[@Spartt204]

jus more bad writing on oda’s part 😂

[@alsome3325]

people in the comments thinking kizaru can beat luffy are crazy.

[@darklord-mw7jd]

Well he could have killed luffy, when he delivered food.

[@alsome3325]

@@darklord-mw7jd and luffy could've killed kizaru several times but we know he wont

[@darklord-mw7jd]

@@alsome3325 when was that 😴

[@alsome3325]

@@darklord-mw7jd when he was serious in g5

[@darklord-mw7jd]

@@alsome3325 kizaru gave luffy food right after getting hit in the head by g5 luffy. what makes you think any attack from current g5 can kill him ?.

[@otakumaster4169]

Oda is a fool 😂

[@thefootballguy6562]

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