The Greatest Gorosei Theory Ever Made

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@rogersmith9535
@rogersmith9535 2 ай бұрын
The Celestial Dragons refute any claims made in this video. The individual know as Hidden Island is wanted, dead or alive, for a bounty of 2.5 billion Berry.
@blessinganwana9854
@blessinganwana9854 2 ай бұрын
Wanted just dead
@juimymary9951
@juimymary9951 2 ай бұрын
Lolz, as if you ROLLING DRAGONS knew how to spell
@lonniehicks8007
@lonniehicks8007 2 ай бұрын
Are you guys using cannons to hunt rabbits?
@DominicanHater2375
@DominicanHater2375 2 ай бұрын
Who? The individual known as The Hidden Island never existed.
@buggytheprophet1017
@buggytheprophet1017 2 ай бұрын
Uhahahahahahahhaha soon me and my boys will claim mariejois as ours, my buddies Crocodile and Mihawk are just waiting for my orders to attack the Holy Land Uhahahahahahahha
@RooveyryMercedes
@RooveyryMercedes 2 ай бұрын
Also. The first Strawhat ship is a Lamb that dies to save the lives of the crew. Then new ship is a Lion. Jesus is refered to in the Bible as both the Lamb and the Lion.
@mattb6616
@mattb6616 2 ай бұрын
didnt fully buy the christian symbolism as a driving influence until i saw this tbh but its very spot on
@TheHiddenIsland-
@TheHiddenIsland- 2 ай бұрын
Actually brilliant point that I think only you and one other person mentioned. I wish I picked up on that while writing this video lol
@ChopStixLoL
@ChopStixLoL 2 ай бұрын
Holy shit. Nice connection
@dendrien
@dendrien 2 ай бұрын
we all know that luffy is jesus in this story by the same standard Naruto was. that being said japanese/chinese mytho themes is the primary.
@beasthundred4709
@beasthundred4709 2 ай бұрын
But Luffy is abbreviation of Lucifer. Individual freedom and responsibility is Luciferianism.
@NineHundredDollarydoos
@NineHundredDollarydoos 2 ай бұрын
Your observations about Garling essentially becoming Imu's first mate and the closeness of the moon to the Earth are really refreshing. I've heard several theories saying that Garling is going to be the start of Imu's downfall, and that he'll even betray Imu.
@mylespando5192
@mylespando5192 2 ай бұрын
If anyone betrays Imu it’ll be Ju Peter. Emperor Nero faced a betrayal by Saint Peter and just like celestial dragons crucified him as a form of execution.
@cerbric4090
@cerbric4090 2 ай бұрын
Garling joining Gorosei signifies that we are heading towards the end of the story. It's in his design.. while looking at him in the eye straight onward, he look's like a star. Just like how the Gorosei are referred to the Five Elder Stars or Planets, so his apperance can be decieving. Initially looking like a star, but turning him and seeing his side profile, his appearance is a crested Moon. We know the importance of the moon within One Piece. The Moon signifies the dawn will come eventually. The light refracted to us signifies the Sun will come again. I think the Gorosei's ranks being infiltrated by a man with Moon symbolism seem's like an omen of how the Gorosei's status is breaking down, and the dawn is closest to the highest ranks of the World Government than ever.
@TheHiddenIsland-
@TheHiddenIsland- 2 ай бұрын
Good points bro, the way I also like to look at it is that his hair from the front also looks like the world government logo, kinda like how lucci had the WG scar on his back. Oda’s way of showing that these guys are obedient servants/enforcers of the WG agenda
@basillah7650
@basillah7650 2 ай бұрын
@@TheHiddenIsland- Nusjuro sword could have also been passed down after someone else got imu'ed like saturn
@basillah7650
@basillah7650 2 ай бұрын
@@TheHiddenIsland- the d clan are the enemies of the gods because they are only ones that want freedom and do not want to be slaves even 5 elders are slaves on emu being killed off if they fail his orders
@tristan6773
@tristan6773 2 ай бұрын
i’m sorry when has the moon been associated with the good guys in OP? can’t think of a single instance actually.
@ridiculicious
@ridiculicious 2 ай бұрын
​@@tristan6773 Recently, the Minks get Sulong forms from the full moon, but the comment was saying that the moon precedes the good guys, rather represent them. i.e. Pedro naming his crew the Nox Pirates to herald "the dawn of the world", and Toki prophesies that Orochi is "the moon unaware of the dawn".
@TheKrigeron
@TheKrigeron 2 ай бұрын
We had a couple of moments where the Gorosei implied they weren't around since the void century: they're only familiar with Emeth from 200 years ago, and their conversation during Luffy's gear 5th.
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 2 ай бұрын
I wrote a similar Comment. 👊👊👏👏👏👌👌
@emanuelbenicio3501
@emanuelbenicio3501 2 ай бұрын
I theorize that the Gorosei are likely some relatively close descendants of the 20 kingdoms. That is, maybe Imu waited a century to have five elders at all. So he waited 100 or so years to recruit the great or great great grandsons of other 5 kings to be his five elders, such that the time entails no attachment with his void century comrades. (Or he waited multiple centuries to select the Gorosei) For me it is pretty obvious that they are very far from the void century. Nusjuro talked about how the WG failed to find the Gum Gum for 800 years as though they werent the ones looking for it. (That is, they werent.)
@skullkid7674
@skullkid7674 2 ай бұрын
You can see saturns soul running away in that chapter
@MihajloNastic
@MihajloNastic 2 ай бұрын
Ngl I just know that Saturn is at least 250-300(flashback was 200 years ago but he looks same)
@emanuelbenicio3501
@emanuelbenicio3501 2 ай бұрын
​@@MihajloNasticatleast 300 since he was already old as hell 200 years ago. Btw we have to notice that he was one of the Gorosei who accepted Fishman Island in the Reverie, i wonder what they planned
@LuciaSeelie
@LuciaSeelie 2 ай бұрын
While I agree with a majority of this theory, I do think that there is more evidence pointing to at least some of the Gorosei having been replaced after the Void Century than to the contrary. Saturn not knowing what Emet(h) was 200 years ago and keeping him around leads me to believe that he was not around during the Void Century, at the very least. Saturn will throw away years of scientific research in order to achieve Imu's goals (as seen in Egghead) so if he knew what Emet was, I don't believe he would have kept him around. Another possibility as to why the Gorosei have scars is because they were chosen like Garling was: They were former heads of the God's Knights. As always awesome theory!
@APrime25
@APrime25 2 ай бұрын
I 2nd this. There’s no way Saturn was present during the Void Century & wanted to “study” Emeth. I would sooner wager he was the newest Gorosei (still hundreds of years ago), now that “position” has passed to a new body.
@ElNavegador-
@ElNavegador- 2 ай бұрын
I think the complete opposite, the ancient kingdom was the one Technologically advanced and Saturn knows this, but their technology was lost throughout the war/flood. Emeth was the opportunity to try and get closer to the mother flame which is what Imu really needs to end the war once and for all. Remember Imu got pissed off because Saturn let them go, not because he kept the robot.
@APrime25
@APrime25 2 ай бұрын
@@ElNavegador- Hmm, maybe… after going over the chapter again, I’ve come to realize that the way I interpreted Saturn’s dialogue could be taken differently, as it’s more ambiguous than I thought. Saturn told a marine to salvage the giant against standing orders to destroy it, BUT those orders could’ve come from a superior in the Navy and Imu could’ve been aware of Saturn’s decision (which seems likely). After Imu asks Saturn why he let JoyBoy escape, Saturn said, “I did not know those powers were so nebulous.” I took it to mean he didn’t know Joy Boy’s haki could be so strong, BUT he could’ve been referring to Imu’s powers, which were cooking him at that moment. So my reasons for supporting the orig. post might not hold up.
@Bittzen
@Bittzen 2 күн бұрын
They also said they don't know why the gov hid the gum gum fruit in the first place
@APrime25
@APrime25 2 күн бұрын
@@Bittzen Not sure what you’re referring to here. The govt never possessed the Nika fruit & I assumed the name change was to make the fruit less desirable to random people while they hunted for it. What chapter was it that someone said that?
@tsumo1
@tsumo1 2 ай бұрын
It's insane how nearly EVERY one of your theories make perfect sense..
@Ypacc0
@Ypacc0 2 ай бұрын
No literally bro that’s why I love it his channel
@Ypacc0
@Ypacc0 2 ай бұрын
Especially his Buggy and lafitte theory’s
@tsumo1
@tsumo1 2 ай бұрын
@@Ypacc0 Fr.. I showed my parents who are caught up to the anime the Lafitte theory & it blew their minds
@HelloImCrimson
@HelloImCrimson 2 ай бұрын
It's because you're not using your brain. Once you start, you'll see it's all bs from reddit nobody cares about
@ImchautzuCHAUTZU
@ImchautzuCHAUTZU 2 ай бұрын
@@Ypacc0And the Mihawk one I’d say it works very well with Par’s “Mihawk is a Sword” theory, but then again, I’m simply just an agenda rat pushing ratty agendas🤷🏾‍♂️
@navodcontrath
@navodcontrath 2 ай бұрын
Fact: Garling is often associated with the moon because of his hair but in reality it's all a matter of perspective because if we look at Garling from the side his hair looks like a half moon while if we look at him from the front his hair looks like a four-pointed star
@tristan6773
@tristan6773 2 ай бұрын
both are associated with the world govt/ imu… plus the cover stories with enel showed that the moon itself has beings and they had lost some kind of war.
@ІП-14КоваликНазар
@ІП-14КоваликНазар 2 ай бұрын
"Soon there won't be any guesing left to do" hits hard *crying emoji*
@LightBringer666
@LightBringer666 2 ай бұрын
there's one more wrench in this theory: during the chapter where we learn about the gomu gomu no mi being a mythical zoan, we see Ju Peter asking the other gorosei about why the government hid the name of the fruit, implying that he's joined the gorosei more recently, despite his scar... evidenced also by his younger appearance compared to the rest
@Bittzen
@Bittzen 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, I don't think any of the gorosei are as old as Imu. They many times displayed ignorance of history, not just not knowing why the gov hid the gum gum fruit. It's more likely they earned their scars to get where they are like Garling did.
@LightBringer666
@LightBringer666 2 күн бұрын
@@Bittzen yep, garling replacing saturn is another piece of evidence that they're not as old as imu, but possibly very old, selected over the centuries
@aterriblesliceoftoast
@aterriblesliceoftoast 2 ай бұрын
Man, I’m so happy. Just watched this weeks episode of One Piece. Now Hidden drops this. And I don’t have work tomorrow.
@Thyme-Lord22
@Thyme-Lord22 2 ай бұрын
What I like the most out of this theory is this kinda changes the perspective of the government. For so long we thought the ancient kingdom wielded the most power and used it irresponsibly, but here we see the 20 kings attempt to wield power far outside their own control and are arguably more irresponsible than the ancient kingdom (depending on how the sea levels were raised). My my, how the tables have turned! And I can’t wait for Elbaf because I think it’ll be a Skypiea parallel. Making Egghead and subsequently Elbaf afterwards an exploration into and discussion of the battle between science & religion. Logic vs. Faith, or Heart over reason, one of the main core principles of the show. Meaning that the government or 20 kings will likely be painted as sympathetic in the ancient war. They only wanted that power over reasons of heart, for their ideas of the honest betterment of the world. But once they let the devil, knowledge (reason,) take over, knowledge has its own ideas of right and wrong, what’s good and bad. What’s justice and what’s freedom, and who’s painted good versus who’s painted evil. Freedom/Faith becomes chaos, and control/reason becomes safety. The 20 kings, ironically in their quest for knowledge just like Ohara’s scholars, learned too much.
@ShadeKirby500
@ShadeKirby500 2 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, the 20 kings were weak men who after exhausting their options, took a deal with satan to retain their power, and are therefore slaves to a force of evil even more powerful than it.
@jacobbirkinshaw5359
@jacobbirkinshaw5359 2 ай бұрын
30~ minute mark. The Gorosei are from the first 20 kings. Strong disagree. The Gorosei didn't recognise Emeth, one of Joyboy's nakama. If they were involved in the Void Century, you'd assume they'd know Joyboy's crew. The Gorosei (Ju Peter, I believe) said during Gear 5 awakening that the Nika fruit had become a legend even to them. Why would it be a legend if they'd been around while the OG Nika fruit user led the ancient kingdom? It seems far more likely (imo) that the God's Knights and potentially other groups make up the inner circle of WG power who know about Imu/understand there's something above the Gorosei. Imu selects the best from those groups to replace the Gorosei when they fail him. Next man up kinda thing.
@TheHiddenIsland-
@TheHiddenIsland- 2 ай бұрын
Fair enough, that's also viable! I didn't consider that as much as I should have during that part of the theory
@coachingconfidant2785
@coachingconfidant2785 2 ай бұрын
Imu could have erased a part of their memory. Like sugars ability he should have something like that
@jacobbirkinshaw5359
@jacobbirkinshaw5359 2 ай бұрын
@@coachingconfidant2785 I get that for the world in general (although the world still knows Nerona Imu as someone from the 20 kings, so that’s still a bit weird) but it would be a pretty glaring oversight from Imu and Oda if Imu had purposefully made his best subordinates ignorant of some pretty low level stuff (who Emeth is, for example) while making them privy to some key information (that the Nika fruit exists and has been renamed the gum-gum fruit) Wouldn’t make much sense imo.
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 2 ай бұрын
Would the god’s knights not be in the inner circle since they only serve as replacements or bodyguards for the gorosei
@basillah7650
@basillah7650 2 ай бұрын
@@coachingconfidant2785 Nope, makes sense he wants to replace him after some time to stop them getting to strong alone.
@Luffymynika11
@Luffymynika11 2 ай бұрын
The introduction was 🔥🔥
@xhomiegreninjax137
@xhomiegreninjax137 2 ай бұрын
Hey, so I clicked on this video and immediately got sent an image of a golden snail and a middle finger emoji from an unknown number. Am I cooked?
@TheHiddenIsland-
@TheHiddenIsland- 2 ай бұрын
run
@skullkid7674
@skullkid7674 2 ай бұрын
@@TheHiddenIsland-look at the Saturn dies chapter, you see his soul running away
@cezarysiemieniewski5502
@cezarysiemieniewski5502 2 ай бұрын
As cooked as Sanji made food
@datch8044
@datch8044 2 ай бұрын
NOT UNTIL YOU TELL ME YOU WANT TO LIVE
@yaseen9044
@yaseen9044 2 ай бұрын
wallahi you're finished
@jgi4como
@jgi4como Ай бұрын
You can’t get better than The Hidden Island, so grateful I found this channel and joined the crew before the series wrapped up. Cheers captain
@CantusTropus
@CantusTropus 2 ай бұрын
The modified intro with Imu jumpscares was awesome
@wompus_king
@wompus_king 2 ай бұрын
There are no jump scares in Ba Sing Se
@-_Alyssia_-
@-_Alyssia_- 2 ай бұрын
Shanks: Death (he 1shots people) Big Mom: Famine (she always hungry) Kaido: War (this one speaks for itself) Whitebeard: Conquest (He was the man closest to one piece and controlled the most territory) Blackbeard replaces Whitebeard as Conquest which fits since he wants to take over the world. Luffy replacing kaido as war kinda fits too since he will start the final war and loves to fight Buggy dont fit i cannot even lie but thats kinda the point of him being a yonko The 7 deadly warlords Mihawk: Pride (bro refuses to even fight shanks after he lost his arm and uses 0 named attacks, also baratie incident) Hancock: Lust (she horny for luffy and uses the love fruit which works on people who lust for her) Moria: Sloth (bro uses shadow puppets to fight and barely moves) Doflamingo: Envy (his driving motivation is that he is mad he didnt get to be a celestial dragon) Crocodile: Greed (he wants the ancient weapon and to rule alabasta) Kuma: Wrath (he was initially introduced as a tyrant so i think this fits) Jinbe: Gluttony (i dont really got a good one for this but hes kinda round lol)
@braindavidgilbert3147
@braindavidgilbert3147 2 ай бұрын
Yeah Jinbei really messes up the seven deadly sins bit
@-_Alyssia_-
@-_Alyssia_- 2 ай бұрын
@@braindavidgilbert3147 yeah fr
@JulianimeIsAmazing
@JulianimeIsAmazing 2 ай бұрын
Buggy will be Death because he will take Shank's place with the death of Shanks, and then someone else can be another Yonko. (:
@nathansanchez6311
@nathansanchez6311 Ай бұрын
Blackbeard could be gluttony,
@MihajloNastic
@MihajloNastic Ай бұрын
Blackbeard used to be warlord, he could be Gluttony instead of Jimbei
@parassharma3218
@parassharma3218 2 ай бұрын
Lets goooo, Hidden is back
@chickensouplover516
@chickensouplover516 2 ай бұрын
I have been saying for months that Nika is clearly a reference to the Greek verb νικάω (nikao) which we see rendered as Νικα (Nika) which means "he conquers." Glad somebody finally picked this up.
@pilgrimressurection
@pilgrimressurection Ай бұрын
@Spokenwisdom1
@Spokenwisdom1 2 ай бұрын
Mentioning the allusion to IC XC NIKA is everything I love about this channel. Profound. As a Christian, I saw the name “NIKA” and knew immediately of the parallel. In the Bible, Jesus also talks about how the sinless will be made white as snow. Is it any coincidence that Luffy is most “free” when he is in that form? Free of limits and “sin” in other words, a perfect child of God?
@Nerex7
@Nerex7 2 ай бұрын
On top of that, take a look at the One Piece world map. It looks like that cross. The lines of the cross being the red line and grand line. Luffy is from the East Blue which is in the upper right corner on the world map, exactly where the cross would spell out "Christ"
@benl.4577
@benl.4577 2 ай бұрын
Check out Revelations 1:14-15's description of Jesus Christ physically: [14] His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; [15] And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
@soupdujour5807
@soupdujour5807 2 ай бұрын
​@@benl.4577 I'm glad you brought this up, I was just thinking about this verse in reference to gear 5 last week. So cool.
@Spokenwisdom1
@Spokenwisdom1 2 ай бұрын
@@benl.4577Absolutely! To add to that, when he ascended up the Mount of Transfiguration: Matthew 17:2 “And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.”
@عليالزهراني-ث2خ
@عليالزهراني-ث2خ 2 ай бұрын
@@Nerex7علم حكومة العالم يشبه الصليب 🤔
@turbaninators5150
@turbaninators5150 2 ай бұрын
Always a good day when you upload my g since the OG DAYS of mihawk theory I’ve been watching
@Lan96
@Lan96 2 ай бұрын
you’re too good at this man. thanks for your efforts with this great content.
@arvindraj723
@arvindraj723 Ай бұрын
This is by the far the best one piece theory page on youtube. Seriously needs more visibility.
@zachburch6741
@zachburch6741 2 ай бұрын
Your videos are so good man, def my favorite theory channel
@immortalassassin4456
@immortalassassin4456 2 ай бұрын
i am just speechless. You left no room for me to put a word in. What a Spotless Theory I am very very thrilled and looking forward to see it all come true at some point. Fantastic Job
@WreckySR
@WreckySR 2 ай бұрын
honestly im never into theories but your style of storytelling and editing is very unique and enjoyable❤
@NutterButter774
@NutterButter774 2 ай бұрын
I don't usually watch theory videos about One Piece but I watched this one on a whim and the quality is out standing. Every point was clear and it all made sense
@avilionamillion
@avilionamillion 2 ай бұрын
youre definitely the best one piece theorist on youtube right now, always got engaging and good videos that dont waste my time.
@seebo6471
@seebo6471 2 ай бұрын
Sobriety was fun, but my favorite bar just opened back up. Welcome back, Hidden!
@StillBlazingHeart
@StillBlazingHeart 2 ай бұрын
Words fail to describe how amazing how are, man. The way you reel me in with these theories is unreal I was thinking I would watch half the video now and see the rest on lunch tomorrow and here I am with eyes glued until the end. Good work dude!
@dendenkushi
@dendenkushi 2 ай бұрын
Get help lol, it's a KZbin vid
@dawnh
@dawnh 2 ай бұрын
so this is what glazing is..
@Reshma.Narain
@Reshma.Narain Ай бұрын
It seems that everyone have forgotten about the fact that prior the timeskip as Kuma separated the crew, Brook ended up with the “satanist” trying to summon the devil. I always thought that whatever circle they used back then , resembled those of the Gorosei when they got to egghead. You’re the first one finally mentioning it! Thank you !
@jaydagoat8503
@jaydagoat8503 2 ай бұрын
i like this theory a lot except for the speculation that the gorosei were some of the Kings that fought the ancient kingdom, Even the gorosei had only heard tales of joyboy rather then seeing him in action and speak of him as if he was a legend they never encountered, and i doubt that would be the case if he fought them
@TheHiddenIsland-
@TheHiddenIsland- 2 ай бұрын
yea chapter 1044 is the biggest obstacle for that part of the theory, i should have considered it more. I think there's still room for them to have been around but not fully understand what joyboy's power was, which is why the fruit has been able to elude them for so long. if they understood how devil fruits work, they wouldn't have vegapunk researching them - which leads me to believe joyboy's power is just as mysterious to them as their powers are mysterious to us
@beasthundred4709
@beasthundred4709 2 ай бұрын
I think it's just fact. Goroei are also celestials. All celestial Dragons are the loyal members from kingdongs that found WG.
@jaydagoat8503
@jaydagoat8503 2 ай бұрын
@@beasthundred4709 yes but i doubt and of them were the the kings themselves
@taxuenowoz4038
@taxuenowoz4038 2 ай бұрын
They probably never got even close to see him, remember this is a country as advanced as the modern day USA and more, while they are revolutionary war era countries at best. Haki may be a equalizer for them to not immediately perish at the sight of the tanks but overall they are not fighting the top leaders of the great country.
@jaydagoat8503
@jaydagoat8503 2 ай бұрын
@@taxuenowoz4038 if they fought him they wouldnt talk abt him tht way and would have seen him in person at least once.
@briansabogal1879
@briansabogal1879 2 ай бұрын
I'm not huge into one piece but I regularly watch your videos to get better ideas for the editing and pacing of my own content (completely unrelated to one piece or manga) because everything is just so professional and clean. Always been blown away by your openings but your ability to keep a solid pace despite dropping massive amounts of information, and doing so in digestible ways, is head and shoulders above the vast majority of your tube content creators. Keep up the great work man!!
@oceanofstars
@oceanofstars 2 ай бұрын
Always a treat to see a new video release from you. I love following along with your logic, and video essays like this really help appreciate the source material all that much more.
@Squidkilla23
@Squidkilla23 2 ай бұрын
I still spread around your 'Kingdom of One Peace" theory a lot. It's unbelievably good I think, so I can't wait to hear this one!
@felixlandivar627
@felixlandivar627 2 ай бұрын
Yoooo, this theory is insane! I love the callback to brook's timeskip arc, it always felt strangely out of place for me, but I could never put my finger on why until now. Small gripes, I just feel like its too soon to refer to imu as 'him' and I really don't want this theory to age poorly! 'They' and 'them' just feel so much more appropriate at this point in the story, we don't know anything about their characteristics after all.
@IAmMightyMike
@IAmMightyMike 2 ай бұрын
this much effort in a smaller youtube channel is always refreshing. amazing stuff man!
@MrMotastic
@MrMotastic 2 ай бұрын
Always appreciate your videos, cozy vibes and interesting theories.
@lucasmansilha2541
@lucasmansilha2541 2 ай бұрын
One thought that makes sense is that Ju Peter was clearly worried with Jay Garcia's replacement because he fears that he'll be replaced too. After all, he's the Godhead of Agriculture and the Holy Land is crumbling to pieces due to the starving situation.
@marcusht7352
@marcusht7352 2 ай бұрын
I don't think that the gorosei are original kings, at least not all of them. Saturn didn't know what Emet was when he discovered it 200 years ago, and was clearly quite amazed by the level of technology that Emet was made up of. This likely means Saturn wasn't fully aware of the technology that the ancient kingdom had and therefore was likely born after the void century.
@xAntoIRL
@xAntoIRL 2 ай бұрын
My favorite thing about being caught up on One Piece is watching these videos thanks bro
@TheHiddenIsland-
@TheHiddenIsland- 2 ай бұрын
Welcome to the weekly ride brother, great time to catch up
@andragonm8932
@andragonm8932 2 ай бұрын
How do you rationalize the the gorosei in 1044 mentioning that the awakening of the Nila fruit was “a legend even to us” which basically states no gorosei was present in the void century war, otherwise they would remember Joy Boy.
@TheHiddenIsland-
@TheHiddenIsland- 2 ай бұрын
yea someone pointed this out to me on twitter just recently, it's a good point that i didn't pay enough attention to admittedly. the only way i can rationalize it is that the origin of the fruit was even before their time, and after joyboy died they didn't know what happened to it. after all they said it's been "eluding them" for centuries. after a long enough time with no sign of it, it maybe passed into legend
@ElNavegador-
@ElNavegador- 2 ай бұрын
I think this chapter has hints as to who was there in the void century, Jupiter refers to "the world gov" as if he wasn't part of it, so he might have been a newer member (he also reacts differently about Garling becoming an elder probably because the previous elder to Jupiter got killed too), Warcury is the one that makes the comment about the DF not awakening for 800 years. Saturn and Mars were alive at least 200years ago since mars also recognises Emeth.
@pablodebella7695
@pablodebella7695 2 ай бұрын
Regarding the Gorosei being the original kings, when Nika awakened didnt the Gorosei say that there were "previous" members of Gorosei that went after the fruit and couldnt get it? My memory is fuzzy.
@ChaosKoopasPlays
@ChaosKoopasPlays 2 ай бұрын
Love that whole segment comparing the gorosei to their real life design inspirations lmaooo. Glad to see the king return 🔥
@saints2765
@saints2765 2 ай бұрын
Welcome back Hidden, great vid. Hope everything is going well with you and the pup
@TheHiddenIsland-
@TheHiddenIsland- 2 ай бұрын
thank you 🙏🏻glad to be back bro things are getting better!
@tsumo1
@tsumo1 2 ай бұрын
6:33 the glizzy fruit 💀
@angryspeedman
@angryspeedman 2 ай бұрын
awakening = glizzy overdrive?
@tsumo1
@tsumo1 2 ай бұрын
@@angryspeedman LMFAO
@HumanNarrativeChannel
@HumanNarrativeChannel 2 ай бұрын
Heard that and raced to the comments like "hold on young man, not so fast. You're not getting away without a bonk."
@Alxolotl2
@Alxolotl2 2 ай бұрын
The glizzy glizzy no mi model gargantuan gobbler
@716_ハディくん
@716_ハディくん 2 ай бұрын
glad someone notice this 😂
@dilldall2080
@dilldall2080 2 ай бұрын
Wake up, Hidden dropped another banger. And let me say, the modified intro is awesome😊👌.
@echidnaburger02
@echidnaburger02 2 ай бұрын
I believe Blackbeard either can or will one day be able to swim, because the real Blackbeard had a legend where after he was beheaded and thrown overboard, he swam around his ship three times before finally sinking.
@bastiaouad12
@bastiaouad12 2 ай бұрын
No he was beheaded and then walked by his crew to safe them
@echidnaburger02
@echidnaburger02 2 ай бұрын
@@bastiaouad12 I"m sure there are several stories about Blackbeard but the swimming one is the one I'm the most familiar with.
@basillah7650
@basillah7650 2 ай бұрын
@@echidnaburger02 It's the most bullshit one because blackbeard was actually real he got shot and hanged after to make sure he was dead
@RamonaS007
@RamonaS007 2 ай бұрын
Oooh, I never noticed the numbers in the Gorosei's summoning circles! This is why I love watching your videos. You help me pick up on all the details and follow the story on all layers.
@pabloscheufler2059
@pabloscheufler2059 2 ай бұрын
The only thing i don't agree with is that the elders are from the void century. When saturn was killed, while asking for mercy to imu-sama, sounded surprised with joyboy's power, as if he had never experienced it directly. Also, he let the scientists fron 200 years ago study Emeth, as if he didn't knew he was not just a robot but actualy a scentient being and joyboy's friend. They are old, sure, but probably not original kings
@kortello2232
@kortello2232 2 ай бұрын
The new edit on the intro is heat bro… u are truly one of a kind
@RisioTheorem
@RisioTheorem 2 ай бұрын
If Egghead was anything to go off of; an upload like this must mean Hidden got murked by the WG
@kamaldeepatkar3081
@kamaldeepatkar3081 2 ай бұрын
Gorosei's are Evil Dicktators! very few videos change my perception of one piece world and this one did it, for me that is the peak of one piece content! love you a lot & let these banger videos coming more often
@YaheimTheLutalo
@YaheimTheLutalo 2 ай бұрын
Gorgeous intro.
@YaheimTheLutalo
@YaheimTheLutalo 2 ай бұрын
Gorgeous video too, love your work.
@junkydluffy
@junkydluffy 2 ай бұрын
“Mythical Glizzy Fruit” just earned you another subscriber
@confusedabsurdist
@confusedabsurdist 2 ай бұрын
There is still that theory Ju Peter is a secret traitor
@gravito1573
@gravito1573 Ай бұрын
It would make sense. When Garling introduced himself as One of the gorosei, Ju Peter was sweating profusely. Maybe he's afraid of Garling, who might discover who he really is
@confusedabsurdist
@confusedabsurdist Ай бұрын
@@gravito1573 Love how in the ending panel Ju Peter was sitting right at the opposite of Garling
@mk_ultruh
@mk_ultruh 2 ай бұрын
Shout out to you, Hidden. Your videos are some of the best OP videos on the Internet, and provide some of the most compelling theories I've seen. As a writer myself, I've found plenty of inspiration for my own works in your videos, and I wanted to thank you personally for that.
@mrperfect8838
@mrperfect8838 2 ай бұрын
Every time i watch ur videos my perspective of watching one piece changes
@akashshetty5112
@akashshetty5112 3 күн бұрын
I applaud you for putting this together and doing your research! I love discussing One Piece theories! ❤
@chibk
@chibk 2 ай бұрын
most common theory is that Imu is the Devil himself and gave the Gorosei demon powers but let’s see what Goaten Goatland has cooked up for us 😼
@rolandlabonte1168
@rolandlabonte1168 2 ай бұрын
This man just doesn’t miss, the quality of your videos is insane. Such a great watch
@Kaxxaa
@Kaxxaa 2 ай бұрын
The devil does also have a connection to celestial bodies, Lucifer Morningstar. Although that has a connection to the planet Venus. And with the dawn too. Man these videos really gets me thinking
@someboi3085
@someboi3085 2 ай бұрын
I love that you brought up Brook’s time skip because I also used this portion as a theory of the Goroseii having actual demon powers and Imu being Satan making soul contracts with the Goroseii.
@Aether_GM
@Aether_GM 2 ай бұрын
Maybe I missed it but I thought you were gonna add that devil fruits likely only reincarnate through apples, as the apple imagery is plentiful throughout the manga. We've seen the axolotl fruit reform thru an apple and coincidentally Vegapunk 's antenna is an apple as well. These are part of an even bigger Eve tree/Imu theory I've been working on a while
@crazybobert5243
@crazybobert5243 2 ай бұрын
It’s any fruit
@Chiefteeth1
@Chiefteeth1 Ай бұрын
Kaku’s fruit was a banana
@The4thBen
@The4thBen 2 ай бұрын
This is on of the best theories I've heard to date. You got me swayed
@DayMe1n
@DayMe1n 2 ай бұрын
The one piece is a one piece swimsuit that was owned by Nerona Imu the be one who couldn’t swim. In a world where they were shined for their demonic features, they found friendship with Joyboy. The live between them was strong till once from aside the waters, Joyboy laughed. The swimsuit to him looked quite funny, but to Imu this laugh was confirmation. That Joyboy only saw them as a joke. From that day on the solem distrust grew to hate. It slowly spread till it bore fruit, literally that once the starved got there hands on became servants to the strength. Servants of Imu.
@LVDubstep
@LVDubstep 2 ай бұрын
Man I didn't know how much a missed that classical music you always use. Hidden you came back with a BANGER!
@ishaanthegreat11
@ishaanthegreat11 2 ай бұрын
luffy is hanuman, the monkey god there is more than enough proof, he even uses the bajrang gun attack. hanuman's brother is agni, the fire god and hanuman's father is pavan, the wind god. luffy will eat the mother flame. hanuman also burns the kingdom of lanka, with his tail so luffy will burn fishman island, and maybe mary geoise. his df will combine with bonney's and they will combine and they will go back in time and meet the original joyoboy. the poneglyph where joyoboy apologizes is actually luffy saying sorry to the original joyboy. the original joyboy's name is something like dyras i am not sure. the books of ohara are in elbaph and vegapunk will join the revolutionary army. blackbeard's dark fruit is the king of hell. the ancient ship crashed and caused a great flood. imu is joyboy's elder brother and joyoboy has an eyepatch
@rorank
@rorank Күн бұрын
When you said “how did the 20 kingdoms win the war” it made EVERYTHING click inside of my head. And then I started yelling in my car. You’re my goat.
@playfulwriter9796
@playfulwriter9796 2 ай бұрын
Yay! My first live Hidden Island theory!
@Blitzkrieg0321
@Blitzkrieg0321 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely love videos from Hidden Island. They may not be as frequent as others but his content is always top tier!
@Nerex7
@Nerex7 2 ай бұрын
13:21 Can I just mention that this Cross also looks like the One Piece world map? The lines of the cross being the red line and the grand line, dividing the four seas. Luffy comes from the East Blue which positioned on this cross would be "Christ" ... god damn this is a rabbit hole
@kevk9041
@kevk9041 2 ай бұрын
Bro, you are a straight genius
@boxertest
@boxertest 2 ай бұрын
Best theories I've heard
@gerryd1303
@gerryd1303 2 ай бұрын
Now THIS is the content I love! Like Parvision-level of depth in thoughtprocess. Bravo👏👏👏
@electrixfyingipod6206
@electrixfyingipod6206 2 ай бұрын
In vega punk messages he said the war is still going on so it makes sense that theres 5 warrior gods appointed by imu
@sterlingshootsfilm
@sterlingshootsfilm 2 ай бұрын
Never commented on any youtube videos before but I just had to say how amazing you have explained the truth about all of the influences in this amazing story!
@kusoland
@kusoland 2 ай бұрын
That intro though, goddaaaaaaamn 🤩
@TheDigitalApple
@TheDigitalApple 2 ай бұрын
I saw someone say this joke and unfortunately I cannot remember where, but I went along the lines of “Figarland Garlings demon form is……Mac Tonight.”
@moe583
@moe583 2 ай бұрын
I don't get it
@Rainstorm_100
@Rainstorm_100 2 ай бұрын
@@moe583 Mac Tonight is a Moon with a face that was used for old McDonalds commericals
@Aether_GM
@Aether_GM 2 ай бұрын
Probably misremembering but wasn't there also a thing of his image being used for far-right material? Would be a pretty meta joke fitting for figarland lol
@rubyyrare
@rubyyrare 2 ай бұрын
@@moe583 moon man
@OneOnlyDan
@OneOnlyDan 2 ай бұрын
Nah, it's gonna be the moon from Majora's Mask.
@copeharder777
@copeharder777 2 ай бұрын
the gorosei age difference seems to indicate peter was an addition rather than an original, seeing how garling is joining, it only strengthens this. Great video as always!
@SteppingFawn
@SteppingFawn 2 ай бұрын
Goddamn. Every single time this man cooks, it is some serious gourmet shit. Every. Single. Time.
@thebiggk5723
@thebiggk5723 2 ай бұрын
Wow. All of the arguments just make so much sense. The back to back proofs of each points brought up, the link to real life context, the link to religion, everything just clicks and it sounds amazing. This theory just needs to happen and be proven right, since it is the first one that I have heard which makes total sense. The fact that Ju Peter here isn't depicted as a traitor, but a founder of the world and Saturn's death being justified by Joyboy's return are points so interesting. I loved the idea that Imu is one being similar if not, a demon, or even Oda's link to world leaders through the visual simile of these gorosei. I loved this theory truly.
@iconiclittlecharacter9726
@iconiclittlecharacter9726 2 ай бұрын
You're cooking as always, only wrench in the 5 kings theory in my opinion, is that the gorosei don't seem to actually have first hand experience with the Human-Human Fruit Mythical Type: Model Nika. They talk of it as if they've only been told about the fruit, and didn't fight Joyboy first hand. This could also be Oda exposition dumping haphazardly, excellent theory otherwise completely watertight
@apex_slayz1392
@apex_slayz1392 2 ай бұрын
Immaculate vibes everytime. Dope video my brother
@arc7xangel897
@arc7xangel897 2 ай бұрын
I believe Garling also symbolizes the ajudicatior from the John Wick franchise. As he seems to be the only one. Besides "The Elder" or Imu, who has the right to judge the high table or Gorosei in this case.
@moneysqueeze7164
@moneysqueeze7164 2 ай бұрын
12:37 Joyboy is quite literally based off the myth of Joyboy. They both have a drum that brings joy and liberation.
@rodent308
@rodent308 2 ай бұрын
great to see you back. i always enjoy listening to your long-form content the most.
@david_dchen
@david_dchen 2 ай бұрын
Also, a flood is basically a giant baptism of the entire world
@tobikoch1110
@tobikoch1110 2 ай бұрын
Always when u think he gave up on making content he releases another absolute Banger. Great vid
@mighty7579
@mighty7579 2 ай бұрын
Replacing Saturn is how Imu is going to fail. One of the Elders is definitely betraying them
@mathasemiljensen
@mathasemiljensen 2 ай бұрын
What a sick intro! keep up the good work bro!!!
@junkred9466
@junkred9466 2 ай бұрын
Seriously, when does Oda find the time to learn so much about history and myths...
@RandomGuyyyy
@RandomGuyyyy 2 ай бұрын
I don't believe that the Gorosei are as old as Imu is, but I can totally see Garling as the Gavel you mentioned. Great video as always.
@dradenlol8667
@dradenlol8667 2 ай бұрын
I think the reason most of the Gorosei are old is that it gives Imu more control. Imu picks them when they’re old, grants them immortality, and then they HAVE to be loyal else Imu take their powers away. Doesn’t work with Peter, but maybe he had an illness or something.
@Rl55322
@Rl55322 2 ай бұрын
Those scars could explain it too. Me might’ve been dying to those
@rodrigaob9903
@rodrigaob9903 2 ай бұрын
I think it is because you had more time to achieve more things. Figarland Garling is without a doubt the one with the strongest resume. It is like the upper management of companies. Moreover, I think IMU it's a child, so them being old makes more contrast
@Straffers
@Straffers Ай бұрын
God... dear sir, thank you for "enlightening" heathens like me on your theory. Love it. One of those impeccable theory. Thank you for your hard work piecing all the clues and scene that seems as insignificant as Brooke's summoning into a bigger picture.
@vid_277
@vid_277 2 ай бұрын
Welcome back g 🫡🫡
@ChillstoneBlakeBlast
@ChillstoneBlakeBlast 2 ай бұрын
It would be completely insane if Blackbeard obtains Imu's power and puts his 5 strongest Titanic Captains. I don't think that's where the story is headed though, but it's a possibility
@mylesjude233
@mylesjude233 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic video mate, you didn't just cook, you burned down the kitchen.
@Wynora
@Wynora 2 ай бұрын
I really like your theories. They are always feeling accurate and that makes me excited everytime! Thank you soo much!
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