Oda Treats Zoro BETTER...

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[@ay3070]

As a sanji fan i understand Oda being able to use him in a unique way that others cant be used. I dont however understand Toei being so clearly biased. Oda already balances out sanjis nature cool vs goofy but toei takes out some of his cool moments which dimishes his character. Toei can add stuff to add to the story to clear things up but when you remove content from the story its disrespectful to fans and Oda's story

[@hanumanganesha9609]

Yeahh bruh they completly diminish his cool moments and his pervy moments they turn taht shit to eleven like bruh we want cool sanjii moments honestly it feels like zoro is toei's favorite child , he gets better treatment then the fucking main character himself , i am not hating zoro, zoro is my second favorite but toei's bullshit should be called out

[@DemonFist94]

​@@hanumanganesha9609Cry Harder

[@Deezfugginnutzinyomouf]

@@DemonFist94bro gotta be 8 years old

[@mhussain8007]

​@@hanumanganesha9609cope harder

[@migueljaques6780]

@@DemonFist94shhhh zorotard

[@Lornda]

Im a zoro fan boy but damn the anime making marco say "here comes the star" was just undeservingly cold BOTH zoro and sanji are the WINGS of the pirate king* (edit spelling cos i got fat fingers}

[@Slampty]

And would Jimbei be?

[@haremking7256]

Sanji stan stop capping

[@1001011011010]

That may just be a translation thing, Japanese doesn't really have plural forms like that

[@babyyyyy132]

@@haremking7256bro what robin literally said sanji is worthy of being one of the wings of the pirate king

[@koheletcalaforexclan6508]

Zoro Fan, Sanji Fan? I love all the crew. Now if I had to pick one I’d be split between Robin and Nami, there’s the true competition. Can’t decide to this day.

[@Yamato_Solos]

lmao

[@RiskyyTR1]

This is the real conversation we need to have.

[@goddy6852]

Robin on top 24/7💯

[@chwuan8638]

Robin is massive if you know what I mean

[@yolapeyana6333]

Defo Robin

[@jrhype53]

Of course Sanji gonna be faster than Zoro😅. Homie walking around with 3 swords 😂

[@dansheshe8039]

Nice excuse

[@felipecagorago]

Most of these comments are Zoro fans complaining about how Sanji fans complain lmao

[@mhussain8007]

U must be a sanjitard😊

[@nonyabusiness366]

With the sanji fans then complaining about the zoro fans complaining about their complaints and so on and so fore until the whole comment section descends into stupid name calling and childish insults

[@Ignoreduser]

@@nonyabusiness366it because Zoro fans are instigating conflict because Sanji fans are on the defensive.

[@Dracule18]

Lmao

[@animoments8969]

Animators definately have Zorro agenda. On rooftop in the manga kid and law pushed bigmom off the island into the sea but in the anime Zorro cut off the cliff, pushing her off the island. They basicly took kid and laws feat and ave it to zoro which is isane but hey you aint gonna catch zorro fans complaining. The official one piece twitter account even made a 1 hour loop of Sshark tossing Sanji.

[@DemonFist94]

Keep Crying

[@goddy6852]

I'm sorry bro...but a racist it's better than a groomer/pdf file in this days🤷🏿‍♂️

[@DD-lm6oc]

@@DemonFist94 we get it you are a zoro glazer wipe your mouth when you done.

[@tylerwilson1024]

Honestly I feel like the main issue with the whole Sanji thing is that a lot of them end up often disappointed because they keep trying to force Sanji to be like Zoro. They are two completely different characters and different archetypes, so the scenes and moments they get are different. People wouldn’t be in their feelings so much if they weren’t constantly comparing Sanji to Zoro, and trying to 1-up Zoro fans every time Sanji gets a good moment. Like imagine watching Yu Yu Hakisho and getting mad cause Kwabara doesn’t get as many hype moments as Hei, shoot imagine watching Hunter x Hunter and being upset that leorio doesn’t get as hype of moments as kuripika or killua, and I can keep going. Some people just have to come to terms that Zoro archetype is the badass, cool, and strong combatant on the crew. Sanji on the other hand is more of a comic relief perverse character. Shoot even Mineta in my hero gets his cool moments and times to shine, but comparing him to Krishima (red riot) for example is a losing battle cause the characters fulfill different roles

[@TheRanOfGod]

That moment with Edison wasn’t even all that crazy tbh. Atleast it’s crazy people were whining about it. The S-Shark moment where he literally dogwalked Sanji was way worse, they just made that shi up to hate💯

[@chibk]

i swear the animators just shit on characters a lot for no reason💀🙏🏽 now i see why people like the manga better tbh

[@kingmanga8575]

Na the Edison moment was pretty bad. In the manga that’s one of the best speed feats we’ve seen in the series. In the anime u barely even see sanji saving Edison and outspending an already shot laser.

[@Mr.Death56]

​@@chibkI'm a big fan of Zoro and Luffy, but I think Toei hates Sanji too much lol 💀

[@chibk]

@@Mr.Death56 they do💀and it’s even worse with the admirals in marineford😭they made them look like bitches

[@DemonFist94]

S-Shark >>> Lanji Cry Harder 😂😂😂

[@bookofsol]

I mean, at least Luffy, Sanji and Zoro get more love that the other strawhats.

[@yamahafan5227]

Zoro over Law is just reality Brago. No agenda there.

[@ImchautzuCHAUTZU]

This Zoro gas is insane Just say you think he's close to Luffy

[@ken_d_uchiha]

Law is stomping zoro lol

[@yamahafan5227]

Im just saying Law is getting 1 shot by the Big Mom & Kaido Ocean Sovereignty. Zoro tanked it, and then still threw out his strongest attack afterwards.

[@tensei7487]

Law and Kidd slam loro

[@AnimeALX]

@@yamahafan5227 zoro never tanked ocean sovereignty. He got rescued by Law. If he didn't then Zoro would have died. He stalled it for a bit.

[@chibk]

i finally see why people like the manga better😭🙏🏽 i’ve noticed that the animators are biased asf against the admirals. look at marineford and compare the anime version to the original manga 💀you’ll be shocked

[@gaeron1305]

They gave whitebeard an extra wound to make up for it. They weren't about to animate a dude with part of his head burnt off.

[@chibk]

⁠@@gaeron1305 that’s not all im talking about lol… go back and look at all the differences bro i swear the animators are yonko fans💀🙏🏽

[@gaeron1305]

@@chibk I guarantee the animators from marineford weren't yonko fans.

[@chibk]

@@gaeron1305 u havent seen both the anime and manga then

[@gaeron1305]

@@chibk I have

[@BillKapri7]

Brago started cooking a five star meal 3:52

[@yamahafan5227]

Brago just speaking the truth

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

Even if Zoro didn't know Sanji was there, he was in the middle of a fight, and Sanji came from behind him landing. That's like saying in the injustice timeline Nightwing was speed blitzed by a weapon when he was just in the middle of a fight and didn't notice.

[@justaguy3825]

Yeah but oda could of just not added the “hm?”, since it wouldn’t really matter, but he clearly wanted to demonstrate how fast sanji is now, it’s not down playing zoro, it’s just hyping sanji

[@mayursharma7594]

​@@justaguy3825the hm? Could imply so much more than sanji speed blitzing lol.

[@nikjovan4816]

I swear people are so obsessed with stuff like this. When I read that scene in the manga, I only thought about how Zoro and Sanji did their jobs. I love them as characters. And that's it. And also saying TOEI is biased against Sanji is beyond stupid. Look at the absolute Sauce they gave Sanji against Queen in EPI 1061 or how Sanji fought King and Queen simultaneously in the anime; it looked so good.

[@czar17_28]

They also made Zoro skywalk in his fight against Kaku and had S-Shark throw Sanji against a wall like a scrub.

[@czar17_28]

Also 1062 is arguably a Top 3 animated episode of One Piece, but they made King look INSANE. In the manga he made ONE Dragon, in the anime they made him create like 10+ and had Zoro and King clashing like Yonko.

[@nikjovan4816]

@@czar17_28 Zoro can use his swords to do a skywalk basically, so I don't know why it's so crazy that he can do at least one normal skyjump at this point in the story. Plenty of people who are fodder at this point can do multiple skywalks in a row. Zoro doesn't do it because it's not his fighting style. And then the S-Shark thing did nothing to hurt Sanji and TOEI have also done Zoro wrong before. They straight-up erased a named attack that Zoro did in the manga against King and didn't do it in the anime. It was before episode 1062. Somewhere 1058 or 1059.

[@nikjovan4816]

@@czar17_28 Well, yes the anime makes things bigger scale and more epic. Look at what they did in episode 1074 with Kaido vs Luffy. Absolutely amazing.

[@czar17_28]

@@nikjovan4816 You're right about the Zoro cut attack, but again. The entire first sequence of Zoro vs Kaku didn't happen. Sanji getting ragdolled randomly at the end of the fight didn't happen. But Sanji's non-canon addition is not flattering. It's not that the Zoro gas is problematic. It's just clear that animators like to animate Zoro. Sanji is under him and priority and you can clearly see a bias. It's honestly just a small section within animators.

[@Truck-kun11]

- Constantly used as a Hyping tool - Increasingly used as comic relief since Time-Skip, bordering on flanderization with Oda doubling down on gags with perverted Sanji during Fishman Island and Punk Hazard - Always being portrayed as Zoro's equal and rival only for Zoro to end up with all the most epic moments - No mention of his dream in YEARS while every other strawhat had at least some develoment on theirs - Etc...

[@kaikage6060]

Them not liking each other is a gag.Not a rivalry. Zoro an sanji dont even have the same goal in life. How would they be rivals? Zoro was always potrayed stronger

[@Truck-kun11]

@@kaikage6060 I say rivals from a narrative point of view in that they are always butting heads no matter the situation

[@kaikage6060]

@@Truck-kun11 i get what youre sayin, but even from a narritave point they wouldnt be rivals. Theyd need the same goal to be rivals. They just dont like each other. That doesnt mean theyre eqaul

[@kaikage6060]

@@Truck-kun11 dont get me wrong, sanji would give zoro a hard time, but zoro has always been potrayed stronger

[@Truck-kun11]

@@kaikage6060Yeah, In practice they are not equals but the story constantly shows them as if they were, hence why they are "The wings of the Pirate King"

[@darkironyoshi]

Personally reading through the chapter the 1st time I took it as Zoro being surprised at Sanji but not with the implication of "SANJI'S SO MUCH FASTER". Like it was to show Sanji being fast but not Zoro being slow. Now I do think there is an argument for Sanji being faster than Zoro but this was NOT a good place to argue that.

[@TheDarkKenpachi]

I don't remember the manga moment being that big

[@swagman2001]

Nah the sanji fans overhype anything lol they are desperate

[@youngsensei7110]

og

[@menemisjeff990]

So in short, Oda and Toei loves riding and glazing on Zoro (as well as the stans), and loves shidding on Sanji

[@waqarkhowaja8341]

Oda can do whatever he wants. Toei on the other hand.. well yeah true. They overhype zoro more than what is shown in source material

[@eastbluedrew1664]

Star shit was sooooooo deliberate 😂 like went out there way to change it 😂

[@ZaneBlalock]

Just pulled the video up - so you might mention this - but the Anime also called Sanji the "wings" of the pirate king rather than one of the wings. Official English Manga uses an incorrect name for Zoro. etc. But yea, I'd argue that the anime studio favors Zoro, but honestly? I think Oda does too. I think originally his "3 triggers" were his focus (Luffy, Zoro, Nami) - and as time has went on, Sanji has gotten more shine (he had a whole arc centered around him), but it still feels like - to me - that Oda favors Luffy and Zoro specifically. And it makes sense: Zoro has been a character design that Oda used MULTIPLE times for his various one-shots. And Luffy was the character he'd always want to write. Sanji, however, is bar none perhaps the best written character in the entire story though. And yea, that's including his perv-tendencies and his gags. He has the most depth, and most complexity on an individual story basis. I tend to see the problems with fans via 2 things though: 1. Some fans want Zoro to be THE main character and 2. Some fans want Sanji to be Zoro Those two gives you the source of the most toxic fans in my opinion.

[@Mrvengeancehere]

Brago :- animator know more than we do Yeah about that Pekoms 1 shot sanji & make sanji go unconscious is anime only King stopping sanji using 1 hand is anime only S shark grabbing & tossing sanji is anime only After taking combo ifrit attack queen got backup real quick in no time is anime only Page one got backup real quick not wasting time is anime only Meanwhile Zoro flying & cutting s hawk attack is anime only Zoro knocking out waiters using coc during Raid on Onigashima is anime only Zoro hopping & cutting multiple imperial flames r anime only Zoro vs samurai of wano, him using tatsumaki then destroying the entire area is anime only Funny how every one of these non canon scenes "ONLY" make Zoro better not sanji Anime Zoro is stronger than manga Anime sanji is weaker than manga People saying :- here comes the star was translation error In reality It's not Toei purposely only show Zoro after that They knew what they r doing So yeah brago animator know more then we do they know how to make Zoro better & sanji worst by adding extra stuff Now wait & watch all zolotard cope & nagging about my comment When I'm literally providing EVIDENCE & FACTS Just go & cross-check manga if u don't believe me

[@evileyevalaus]

Sanji and Zoro are not stronger/weaker than the manga versions that's just the cope you make up when you don't think sanjis scene didn't get animated the way y'all thought it should 🤷🏾‍♂️😭🤣

[@Mrvengeancehere]

@@evileyevalaus u know how to read right? Bec I'm 100% sure that's wasn't my topic/issue here U completely ignored the issue here Don't u?

[@evileyevalaus]

@@Mrvengeancehere the animators do know more than the ppl reading/watching it so whatever point you think you was tryna make is irrelevant but you quite literally said Zoro fans was gonna be nagging and trying to cope when literally no one even responded to your comment except for me I can read just fine I'm just not going to write a book in the comments 😭🤣🤷🏾‍♂️💯💯

[@Mrvengeancehere]

@@evileyevalaus no one going to respond, Proceed to respond to my comment 🤦🏻 & U r coping when saying Zoro is not strong than manga Sanji is weaker than manga

[@evileyevalaus]

@@Mrvengeancehere LEARN TO READ I said no one responded other than me😭🤣🤣🤣 and when did I say anything about batman and Luffy? Do you work with Oda or do you just read/watch the manga/anime if you don't work with or for Oda we all clearly know less than the ppl who do that's my point genius go cope harder😭🤣🤣

[@cousin_of_dora]

Zoro fans NEED the anime to do this much because it compensates for him having the character arc of a dendenmushi

[@kingmanga8575]

Only people who read op on a surface lvl thinks zoro hasn’t had a character arc. It’s just that zoros major arc happened pre ts while sanji barely had any arc whatsoever. And now post timeskip it’s the reverse. Because zoros already progressed to where he needs to be.

[@RimuruTempest-wl1ru]

​@@kingmanga8575they think having a sad backstory is all what character arc is about

[@cousin_of_dora]

@@kingmanga8575 Look I like Zoro and my post is huperbole, but Sanji is the character with much more emotional depth (by design) and I do think it's wrong for people to say Oda is biased towards Zoro when Sanji has gotten plenty of writing dedicated towards a genuinely impactful character arc

[@swagman2001]

You don’t need a entire arc based around a character to be considered well written you sanji fans always use this as insult yet zoro is still popular but hey it is what it is

[@DemonFist94]

​@@cousin_of_doraand??? Lol I think Sanji fans like you Cry and Complain whenever Zoro has a cool moment 😂 just a hater

[@thefootballguy6562]

Can’t we all just get along lol let’s enough the story

[@bitviper3430]

Honestly to me I took it as a “Hm? What you doin here?”

[@obicross]

Same

[@Dracule18]

Same. Idk why Sanji fanboys interpret that as Zoro Being shocked at Sanji's speed. That was the first time Zoro met him that arc. So he was just surprised to see him pop out of nowhere.

[@andrewmay9885]

Wait till you see this week's ep lol Sanji barking like a dog....aah yo

[@Aether_GM]

Only thing more annoying than sanji/zoro discourse is Yamato discourse. Also "Sanji stans" isnt a thing. Its people who enjoy One piece and then the radical zoro fans

[@parmar__12]

Nah it's sanjitards who just hate Zoro because he is stronger factually Not because he is called wings for people to be recognised as strong

[@avataraarow]

You been good lately brago? Haven’t seen many uploads, hope you’re not too burnt out cuz I love your content

[@ArabDweller]

Toei litteraly made up Sanji getting beat up by S Shark instead of the other way around, then even did this now. It's saddening to see.

[@groamersglasses7922]

lol..😂😂😂 I think the problem is some Sanjis fans feels always entitled when it comes to Zoro..

[@DemonFist94]

Facts 😂😂😂

[@shyamsundhar4318]

s shark sending sanji flying that was not in manga then what was that other then they picking sides (animators)

[@HenryAsare_asare_henry_21]

Oda to Sanji’s voice actor: Sanji will never be cool again.

[@GageLayton]

My own kinda head theory (basically what i want to happen) is that during egghead SOMEHOW luffy does get captured by the elders and they set him an execution and then all hell breaks lose and everyone from everywhere shows up and its an all out war like another god valley, all yonko, all marines, all crews eveyone and itll be an unreal war. Ik its stupid but it's something i want lol

[@louelastic954]

Obsessive powerscaling is a plague in the anime community and that whole Sanji "surprising" Zoro narrative is a perfect example.

[@pizzweak580]

People who say that the animators are "biased" clearly do not understand how the animation industry works. Do these people think the animators are intentionally making certain scenes that portray a character look bad? Fun fact: animators have to follow a storyboard that was made by and approved by someone else. Blame the ones who are in charge of the anime and not the underpaid animators

[@TheMarch-jn3rz]

The irony is Toei animators are Sanji fans. They love Sanji so much they intentionally remove any moments with Luffy and Nami for Sanji. Powerscalers need to realize that Sanji will always be a toxic character. Why? Because Powerscalers have Sanji fight Soro while romantic shippers have Sanji fight Luffy. It’s a lose lose situation.

[@TheEvilRohanite]

Even if Zoro was reacting to Sanji in the manga panel it makes way more sense for it to be like "Oh, you're here" (you know, cause they had been separated for multiple chapters) than a power scaling thing. And at the end of the day in both versions Sanji outran the laser (or blocked I guess if it's meant to be foreshadowing for the Kizaru moment later), how long he takes to bring Edison down afterwards is irrelevant in regards to the actual feat.

[@binay413963]

I think it could be he eas surprised but not in a "oh my god I can't comprehend that speed ahhhhh" way but in a "oh wow that fast , I did NOT expect such speed"

[@parmar__12]

Never lol​@@binay413963 You tjink zoro would be surprised from base Sanji's speed 😂😂

[@cousin_of_dora]

Just saying, Sanji only needs his legs to be comparable to Zoro with 3 swords

[@evileyevalaus]

And a upgraded body let's not forget that part

[@swagman2001]

@@evileyevalausbro just forgot about that lol

[@evileyevalaus]

@@swagman2001 fr tried skipping over it like it's not common knowledge😭🤣

[@DemonFist94]

Comparable??? Lmaaaoooo Sanji wish he was comparable 😂😂😂

[@MihawkTopOne]

Oda doesn't treat Zoro "better" than anyone or anything. He treats Zoro appropriately and Zoro downplayers/Sanji fans refuse to accept that Sanji isn't on Zoro's level. It's like complaining that Oda treats Luffy "better" than Zoro. Yeah, no shit. Luffy is stronger. The only reason this nonsense is even entertained is because the fanbase deluded themselves watching Zoro and Sanji's gag rivalry thinking it translates into actual powerscaling, despite only one of the two possessing the power that places you in the handful of the, and I quote, "very strongest." But unfortunately, we all know headcannon, cope, and bad comprehension trumps all in this community. Sanji fans should be happy that Oda had Luffy and Zoro looking like scrubs against the seraphims. They conveniently forgot their Wano powerups while Sanji got to use his.

[@bdalaw]

lol yall do too much

[@FireAngelChris]

@@bdalawThey are all so unhinged

[@treysavage4570]

All facts I swear I had to call out the one piece Fandom for treating Oda like he a perfect Mangaka that makes no mistakes that is why when someone points out 1 flaw in this amazing story the 1 piece Fandom will refute it with the most ridiculous head canon bullshit.

[@latima123ify]

Lol this comment is a bit disengenous man. Zoro is stronger but he isnt on another level then Sanji , Oda has never once protrayed them like that gag wise or when its serious.

[@chwuan8638]

Tell me about it. This community is so ridiculous with all the powerscaling and agenda nonsense. Theres content creators who preach agenda. Can't take any of them serious

[@1001011011010]

Star vs stars could be a translation thing since Japanese doesn't really have a plural form like that (there are instances where you can make things plural but usually it is up to context)

[@iliasnox8974]

No in the Manga Oda does everything right but the complains are from the Anime and they dont do a really good Job when it comes to Sanji

[@dee1762]

First time watching a person’s video within the 1st 5 minutes after it dropped, i feel accomplished 😭❤️

[@harrsshith]

We all are one piece fans. Please stop fighting yall. 😔 we should move together *ONE PIECE IS THE GOAT*

[@splitvortex_9636]

Zoros a swordsman, he has to be badass or else it won’t work.

[@ryanchiasson2262]

Law is getting packed by Zoro extremely high difficulty though I just think Zoro’s haki mastery and skill completely counters laws df his only edge is conquerors where I think that will give him the push to win

[@myturn2play86]

Zoro is that guy

[@HoryBP1]

Goddamn, when the ad segment started you turned into Parvision usual intro voice tone 😌but yeah, sometimes even I feel like Oda is forgetting about Sanji :/ luckily Egghead treats both of "the wings" equally terrible ;P

[@johnnypollack3243]

Keep up the awesome work and videos BDA law love the video

[@CameronkAK]

Anime definitely does Zoro nicer than Sanji but that is always going to be the case since Zoro is generally written as the cooler character. People are deluded though if they believe that Sanji won’t always be close in power to Zoro. The people who think eos Zoro will be stronger than Mihawk and all swordsman (meaning Roger and Shanks as well) but Sanji won’t even be a top tier are actually crazy. - Sanji will be a top tier when Zoro is a top tier.

[@parmar__12]

Nah just like oda rested case with zoro and luffy being close after luffy reached his peak Zoro and sanji's debate will also end when xoro will reach his peak

[@mariomercado725]

I’m a huge sanji fan but still love zoro. I read the manga and saw the episode both times (even when the manga came out) I never interrupted anything about sanjis speed

[@thelew75]

I been watching and reading one piece for over a decade and I’ve never realized how much people care about zoro v sanji. I just tend to enjoy the adventure for what it is.

[@LuckyWunder]

Aint it just a sick twist of fate that Sanji's dream is more bloodthirsty than anything his siblings or father have ever cooked up? The pureness of what he wants from his dream being a legend where all Seas meet actually being a misinterpreted warning of the inevitability of the flooding of the world and the end of days. His dream is the apocalypse itself and he doesn't even realize it...

[@guybrushtwood]

This sounded like an apology video at the beginning

[@phastpenguin2]

Everybody in this comment section is stupid… CLEARLY chopper solos both Zoro and Sanji at the same time, he even high diffs Kaido we didn’t need gear 5

[@adaurysantos]

Awakened Chopper would one-shot Saturn and the rest of the Gorosei

[@Stefan0v1]

So...those 5 arrows that usually depict "grabbing attention"...right after the TAP....is not towards Sanji..huh?.. It's a suprise however you want to put it..

[@JK_073]

Oda definitely treats Zoro better than Sanji. Zoro and Sanji are 2 characters with similar status and power in the verse. However, when it’s time to prove a point and show a characters strength, Sanji will be used as the punching bag, while Zoro is just there. Sanji exists to show the competence and strength of other characters and because Oda doesn’t want Zoro to look bad, so by putting Sanji in the situation he basically helps you arrive at the conclusion that __ character is above the level of Sanji and Zoro by default.

[@kingmanga8575]

This is simply untrue and cope from sanji fans. Before I’m called a Sanji hater Sanji is at times comparable to Zoro. But more than often Zoro is clearly superior. Showing Sanji lose to an opponent does not mean Zoro would also lose to the same opponent. Take arlong for example. Arlong no diffed Sanji and yet was terried of Zoro because he knew Zoro was heavily nerfed due to his injuries. Implying that Zoro would do well against arlong if he wasn’t already on deaths door. There’s plenty of instances of that in the series.

[@trehubb6144]

I mean Zoro is not only the Japanese crew member but was the oldest one piece character in a sense. Dude was essentially a ryuma clone in looks and as we know Wanted came before one piece.

[@user-bu7wl5wf6t]

SO?

[@RecencyBiasRadio]

As he should. Zoro is the first mate. It’s the same reason why Rayleigh gets more love from Roger’s crew than anyone else in the story. Idk why people act surprised like Sanji deserves special treatment 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Yamato_Solos]

The issue i had with it is the fact of how they had Sanji look when he saved Edison, they had him using the boots and not just speed saving him, and like you said they had him coming in way after the explosion. For the Zoro reaction part they did that completely correct, Zoro was not saying "hm" to Sanji cause he was behind him, he was saying "hm" because S-Hawk or the seraphim stopped fighting. Zoro also wasnt even looking at him, so idk why people are mad or confused cause they did the part the same in the anime as in the manga.

[@nataliawineland34]

It's crazy to me that ppl are always zoro or Sanji when to me some of their best moments are together

[@jackpitman175]

Zoro over law is ridiculous

[@adaurysantos]

Zoro has way better haki than Law.

[@binay413963]

3:52 Law is df dependent still put a fight without his df

[@matattz]

Luffy and Zoro are like Goku and Vegeta. These are the two most important characters in the series, nobody gives af what Piccolo (Sanji) is doing

[@alleycat2477]

Well that’s just false

[@parmar__12]

​@@alleycat2477that's true they're two of the most important and famous characters of the series

[@emaboya1237]

Why tf would zoro not notice something flying from above and landing next to him not sanji fan but be frl man

[@DemonFist94]

Cuz he's more concerned about the enemy in front of him

[@emaboya1237]

@DemonFist94 could be both but you can't act like he knew sanji was there

[@KingkuntaGG]

Ahh Zoro vs Sanji, the debate as old as time

[@jimihatten1958]

Bro that pic at 5:02 is wild

[@Emolate]

In terms of black beard sweating for s hawk, I think it could be the case where he is sweating because he knows the implication of seeing a mihawk clone that’s dark skinned with wings. I think black beard understood what he was looking more then was being scared at s hawk.

[@dinofeather]

I always assumed the Huh was directed at Lilith. As in Zoro is confused by her freaking out, as from his perspective Sanji Clearly had things covered. I figured it was one of those, 'never fear the two bad asses are here' moments.

[@Yamato_Solos]

nah it was def a reaction to the seraphim stopping

[@TheEvilRohanite]

2:05 the line is the same in both the manga and the anime, the difference is in translation. Japanese has no plurals so you have to either guess or use context clues to know whether it's meant to be "stars" or "star".

[@emaboya1237]

Brago saying bb dominating Law is emberassing zoro fans stay predictable downplaying other characters

[@DemonFist94]

Zoro fans ain't downplaying anybody it's just Sanjitards crying about anything that doesn't make him look good 😂😂

[@DEATHxTHExKIDx1]

I didn't even realize it was a big moment in the manga

[@Typ35849]

I like zoro and sanji, their dynamic is really clever its the classic shoen rivalry with the twist being Luffy's not a part of it

[@gvgr25]

BRAGO Asking not be toxic about Zoro and Sanji is funny 🤣. Common Brago you know it, we know it, everyone in every series knows it😅

[@Samuel-p17]

God I wish Yamato actually had joined. Then the whole second strongest debate would've been over.

[@nihili4196]

Nah, it would make it worse. Trust me.

[@adaurysantos]

It's never really been a debate. Zoro has always been the second strongest of the crew.

[@antwonechols2472]

Most people don't respond well to blame. So, instead of claiming one group of fans are wrong or right since it only turns into someone else claiming another group of fans are wrong. So let me make it clear, most One Piece fans don't have the time or energy to deep dive into the subtlety of most characters. My first problem is that Oda had to tell Zoro fans to calm down because so many Zoro fans actually hate Sanji. And why does no one acknowledge the Incredibles depth of Zoro? In other words, the easily relatable themes and motivations, that hits everybody hard. Sorry to say, but by simply claiming Sanji has an impressive feat, despite not being relevant to or used to compare Zoro and Sanji. Zoro fans will flood in to say Sanji is weaker. I know this, why do you feel the need to prove it at every turn? There's both good character, and to only compare them by strength is to completely neglect Zoro's depth as a character. That's my second problem with Zoro fans. No Sanji fan downplays Zoro. We just ask that his power be acknowledged. While Zoro fans desperately cling to Whiskey Peak to claim Zoro and Luffy are relative. When immediately after Luffy fights Mr 0, Zoro fights Mr 1, and Sanji fights Mr 2, there is a clear ranking here. If Luffy and Zoro fight, Luffy wins 99/100. If Sanji and Zoro fight, Zoro wins 60/100. In this case, the manga shows Zoro's strength and Sanji's speed, contrasting skills that serve different purposes, but neither less than the other. But the anime shows Zoro's speed and strength while using Sanji for comedic relief, even using goofy sound effects and adding Franky in to catch Lilith, which also got better animation. I just want Sanji's abilities to be recognized. Many fans easily connect to Zoro. A deep badass swordsmen, ans he's an amazing character of great depth. But the word badass sticks the most. People both praise and neglect Zoro by focusing on his power alone. He's stronger and deeper than Sanji but not nearly as nuanced. Nuance is having layers and conflict, while depth is as I've described it twice now. Again, I just beg you to recognize that Zoro and Sanji are much closer to power than Luffy and Zoro. To see that Zoro has more to offer than being a badass. And that Sanji can be cool, even if you prefer Zoro.

[@nickargeny8467]

I feel like this explains why Manga die hards hate the anime. I feel like with Manga 90-95% is set. But occasionally you can see it differently while the anime shows all so you can't imagine it perfectly how you wanted it.

[@nihili4196]

Anime also loves to change the feel the scene had. Best, and over talked example is kamazou fight that was changed from tough and pretty stand off encounter that was meant to be 99% tension into Zoro slicing everything into cubes, for some reason. He was supposed to struggle there for multiple reasons, not dominate, especially as hard as he did. And scenes like that are more common than you think, so anime really DOESN'T feel like they get what Oda was going for. Unless we want to admit that Oda sucks at presenting that to us?

[@russellwestbrook462]

@@nihili4196I feel like it’s really just toei doing whatever they fee they need to for that episode. Kinda reminds me of way back in dressrosa where they did the opposite and extended the luffy vs doffy fight after gear 4. Just fucked up what should’ve been a complete and utter one sided ass beating by luffy

[@nihili4196]

@@russellwestbrook462 Oh yeah, existence of that scene alone makes me laugh when people say that anime people know better than us how things are supposed to look. Animators are bias, and most likely not even in their own free will. Studio knows which characters are more widely popular and apply more fanservice to them. Studio knows that the ratio of chapters adapted per episode is not sustainable and so almost every single climatic quick attack is turned into contest of strength. That's why we've got one hundred Rebecca flashbacks. I honestly dread how they'll butcher certain backstory. It's really long so I could see them cutting it and putting action in between, completely ruining tension of both

[@killahteck402]

Man Sanji landing beside Zoro is a feat Zoro carry’s Sanji pretty hard

[@kingdraco4813]

Thing Robin vs Black Maria was the best episode, but Zoro vs King was nice to especially the lava hydra vs Zoro.

[@user-zo9ok8cj9z]

I feel like people don't understand that they both serve different roles for the crew

[@The_Final_Storm]

I had no idea this was the reason why people were upset, but i can’t be surprised at the reason why… I wasn’t happy with the scene cause it didn’t feel like the Manga Chapter, drawn exactly like it, with Sanji on the side of Zoro, but it wasn’t anything that made me extremely upset, i just felt like they missed with this one, however the added scenes after with the fighting was great! No BS Fanboy stuff, No Toxic Powerscaling, none of that here. I felt the same during the Lucci vs Luffy Fight. I didn’t see Ch. 1069 Pg 8-9 executed exactly how i read it in the Manga, i really liked that page and i felt they missed, of course everything after that, they did fine. Even Ch. 1041 Pg 15. I feel they didn’t show Luffy’s Speed in a way that they should have, he felt slow, i feel Luffy’s speed and shadowy appearance should have been executed like Zoro’s Shishi Sonson against Kuma, but ehhh, they missed again. Anime doesn’t have to be 1 to 1 Exact to the Manga, they can deviate a bit, technically they already do but i just want certain moments to be executed well. Like Tonight’s Episode. I need Toei to continue to get me immersed in the Painful Kuma Scene they will show. That Bloodcurdling Scream from Young Kuma last episode gave me Goosebumps.

[@estebanbr7596]

Brago zoro agenda is unhinged.... Law can clash with earthquake bb.. he is oneshotting cat stalling zoro

[@johinhilari3754]

They both are Oda's characters. He can do what ever he wants 🤷‍♂️

[@jtegan85]

Missed the most obvious point which is that in the manga Franky isn’t even there! Zoro saves Lilith, Sanji saves Edison. In the anime Sanji gets undercut by Franky swooping in more than anything. They literally invented another rescue because coming in 2nd place was too good for him! The anime agenda definitely feels real lol.

[@nihili4196]

Anime makes a lot of characters dirty, not just Sanji. It's one of the reasons why I stopped watching it really. And funnily enough, kamazou fight was the last straw for me, since it changed pretty bloody and tough fight for Zoro into a cakewalk for him. Anime often trivialize his fights for him, and it made me feel like they had no stakes. And Franky, Brook, Robin and Chopper often get shuffled around or cut from some scenes, which makes their already minimal screen time non existent pretty much.

[@idiatico]

I never read the scene as Sanji speed blitzing Zoro. I saw Sanji doing his cool saviour thing and Zoro not even looking because he trusts Sanji to do what he needs to. Why do people have to fight every time. Toei drfinitely snubbed Sanji with this adaptation though.

[@thecollectiverisk]

Sanji has his moments, it’s just he is used to deem opponents a serious threat, once you make him struggle then we may the enemy seriously when they contend with one of our big 3

[@thecollectiverisk]

Zoro is my fav but animators do kinda undermine our boy sanji tho

[@nonyabusiness366]

I think the zoro comment about S hawk was more about S hawk having an emothonal reaction with the sweat.... Aka mihawk doesnt reacted to anything he is cold

[@jamfu123]

Make it make sense to me if he didn’t notice why seraphim stop fighting and they stop fighting when sanji shows up and zoro doesn’t know why they stop fighting why is this not involving sanji.

[@coryswitzer1912]

I think it just shows how bad ass they both are... in a pinch they both know the other can handle what ever comes.. even though they give each other hell... but zoro would have never... "whole cake island flashback".. even when zoro and luffy have fought it was never that kinda disrespect.. js.. team zoro baby lmao!!!

[@nandu0070]

There are many cool moments coming up for sanji in this arc. I hope they don't ruin it.

[@smoyan5806]

They will. The amount of times toei violated Sanji is ridiculous

[@bobthegoblin11]

I don’t see any of that as evidence of zoro going hmm at the seraphim. Look to the right of zoros head at the sound fx. Its on the side sanji lands. 100% his speed surprised him.

[@BlooNugget]

as a zoro fan, even i can say that both oda and toei treat zoro better, but toei glazes zoro to the max honestly. i been on toei's ass for a while. in wano everybody got a well animated good moment and they gave franky no budget and straight up removed sasaki getting knocked out by general cannon, instead he just gets pushed a lil bit.

[@Nonsoyoutube]

I cant believe people are actually taking this stuff seriously.

[@joelnivar131]

I just understand that the sword and shield are two different things. I KNOW zoro is the sword and sanji is the shield. Sanji is still my favorite

[@TheMarch-jn3rz]

Zoro needs to be stronger than Shanks just to defeat Mihawk. Let’s not forget all the Sanji filler for the last 1000 episodes where every single straw hat was replaced with Sanji. Anytime Luffy hangs out or is near Nami in the anime Sanji is there being horny for Nami. There’s so much fucking Sanji perverted filler and nobody said a fucking thing.

[@g3mkn1ght60]

No one glazes zoro like toei

[@musicmorgs]

Dude, Zoro was just reacting to what/who sanji was carrying…

[@sakusmith3255]

They even lol. Sanji had 2 arcs dedicated to him one of which zoro wasn’t even in at all . I don’t see how this is still an argument if you watched or read whole cake Island .

[@mazinisber4248]

Why all the hate on Sanji fans, Zoro fans? Luffy fans are way worse and more delusional. They think Luffy can take out the crew by himself or even his top 3 commanders 😂😂.

[@estebanbr7596]

oda always protects zoro..he used this arc to give the new gen a wake up call. Law vs bb, kid vs shanks, sabo vs imu, koby in hachinosu, sanji vs saturn, it show them they had they were not there yet. Then zoro.... Instead of making zoro lose he used robo lucci so that they will go toe to toe and show us that he aint there yet. He always has ways to make zoro take Ls and always give the fandom a coping mechanism. The same with the rooftop where he obviously wasnt ready for the yonko fight. But still gave him cool scenes to take him out of it without hurting his presence.. made kaido dodge even tho the attackt later on landed and did nothing, made zoro briefly stop bm and kaido attackt even tho he almost died and got saved by law and ultimately didnt accomplish anything since Law still had to save everyone

[@ioanealavidze4716]

Zoro is the G.O.A.T

[@user-vl8ck4gz6w]

Honestly the anime isnt even canon. Lets just put all our energy into the remake of one piece

[@ruffgenius3535]

Broooooo. This is ez to figure out. Zoro uses 3 Katanas, Japanese weapons, Sanji use Taekwondo……Korean martial art, you know about Japan and Korea history right? I rest my case.