ODD TIMED DRUMMING | Drum lesson with Jay Postones (TESSERACT)

Polyrhythms, Displacement, Odd Time Signatures, Metric Modulation, Ostinatos…. they’re all members of the same family - ODD TIMING.
In this lesson, I’ll take you through examples of each, with exercises designed to get you using them musically.
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[@prathampandey]

This is easily 1-2 years of practice material. Thanks Jay.

[@sturagunsmlbb3557]

Thank you ❤

[@antonribkin5319]

Easily explaining those advanced concepts is another way of showing us how insanely good you are at drums. Like all the stuff you did with tesseract is not enough… I’m so happy I found this channel!

[@bovinejonie3745]

When I was just learning I had to drive to the music store and once a week get to sit with a pro for the quickest 30 minutes of my life while my parents paid a small fortune. Now, I get TesseracT’s Jay Postones for 30 minutes whenever I want, wherever I want for free.

[@jimmyb2655]

This is how I explain Tool riffs on guitar when people get hung up on the exact time signature or the exact way it is counted. "You need to feel it, not count it, keep playing, it'll make sense." I'm showing them tablature with timing, focusing on the patterns.

[@jubencore1950]

Iv'e been wanting to see a video on djent drumming for a long time but haven't seen one and the i stumble on your video and wow man. Its a drummer from tesseract.. lovin it,, greetings from philippines. And hopefully more videos to come.

[@yvesremont]

Thank you very much. Your music is the core inspiration to my band Ki'mbanda (in Brazil)

[@AirwavesEnglish]

This video is definitely saved! Thanks Jay.

[@anthonyzicari]

Thank you for this free lesson!

[@a.i.edward]

Just release my drum cover for TesseracT - Smile, Imagine me analyzing that song before this video, would have saved some time If I had this video earlier)) Thanks for a good explanation of odd timing features

[@maidenless_tarnished]

These are some of my favorite drum lesson videos. Good music, good teacher, good stuff. Your playing always sounds impossible and too random, but I'm happy to know how the magic works and still not be able to play it😂

[@JayTesseracT]

The first time I heard meshuggah I thought the same thing… it’s so random! But I promise it isn’t - there’s almost always a pattern that repeats at an odd point, and it’s about learning how to hear that displaced ostinato against whatever pulse you’re keeping.

[@enzosaison766]

Thx for your lesson series dude

[@berkaysenyuz7079]

that is the lesson what i have been looking for a long time. thanks a lot. 🤘🏼

[@carterzinn2122]

Best odd timing lesson I've seen yet! Pretty work brotha🤘

[@JayTesseracT]

You’re welcome! Check out the other lessons on my channel sometime if you dig this. There’s plenty of odd time stuff in there

[@DeltaKillsTV]

Such great explanation on these lessons. I love odd time signatures but figuring out how to write or play a groove in them and incorporate displacements was actually brain-wrenching, but this really helped! You’re a great inspiration to both my playing and musical choice.

[@st00bz]

Exile 🤗

[@combatkit]

Amazing skillset - like the kind you teach 🤘

[@grimzkul]

Thanks!

[@philippgrunert8776]

This is by far the best lesson video on this topic I came across. There is some great stuff from Gavin Harrison as well though

[@RLXADrums]

this is great!!! i kinda started the other way around--inspired by how you guys write and play (among other also amazing bands like periphery, animals, to name a few). i was always troubled on how i could explain those odd pulses but still the same time and how i could play it with my band. how you explain them. man. you're the djentest teacher as far as i know.

[@brentos5001]

Well said! ❤

[@SICRoosterKido]

Thx Jay! Much appreciated the examples

[@tristanlukens7158]

14:24 Exile, but played on the ride instead of china. Bold of you to assume I don't know Altered State from start to finish :) Beautiful lesson, as always.

[@JayTesseracT]

It is Exile, yes! There is a section on the ride though.... I promise

[@tristanlukens7158]

@@JayTesseracT hmm... let me use this as an excuse to listen through it all again :p

[@tristanlukens7158]

@@JayTesseracT Found it. The section after How do you sleep at night? is played on the ride. I guess it's been too long since I've last listened to the record after all 🙈

[@Fanis753]

Hey Jay, thank you so much for doing these videos. i hope you know this is gold for non drummers as well! Explaining such complex concepts in simple ways is an art in it self! I was wondering if it would be possible maybe in a future video to demonstrate the phrase after the second chorus from exile as well. (Lyrics"What's the confliction between heart and mind...") I was always wondering whats happening in there and im sure other people are too! Thank you for your contribution in music!!

[@jorgearayapacheco1016]

I love u

[@junreylemitares4300]

Really good video. I hope i can hve even one electric kit.

[@JayTesseracT]

Mate, you can have as many electric kits as you want. You just have to buy them

[@johannv.d1208]

14:24 - Exile.

[@markdonbd]

what is the kit library you're using with the td50? and thanks a lot for the awesome knowledge tho

[@JayTesseracT]

Toontrack Modern Metal EZX

[@buddhasektor8828]

As the drummer of Black Orchid Empire… I have studied with Chuck Brown Tony Williams & Narada Michael Walden….I’m very particular about studying with teachers. Jay has a wonderful way of teaching without killing the style of the students. Where are the manuscripts? 😂

[@JayTesseracT]

On my website 😎 - and thanks for the kind words

[@rite2mukund]

Hey Jay While burying the beater Do you ever have any issues with double triggering or double hits ?

[@JayTesseracT]

No, I’ve set the sensitivity on my Roland module so that those tiny rebounds don’t trigger a sound. I play the same way on my acoustic kit. It’s never been an issue even in recordings - even though I know some drummers and educators would get you to stop playing this way… it works fine for me.

[@rite2mukund]

@@JayTesseracT I’ve always buried the beater here and there and always had this issue. Lately I’ve been keeping the beater off but I’m definitely gonna try this Thank you so much !

[@kosk3432]

hi Jay! starting from 10:08 you are demonstrating polyrhythms, but don't they are rather polymetrs? of course, the most important thing is to be able to play them , haha ))

[@JayTesseracT]

tomato tomato

[@cidwilliams3768]

14:24 retrospect? I can hear the Amos bass line 😂

[@JayTesseracT]

No, but that actually uses the same Poly!

[@diczman]

Jay what song is playing in the end of the video?

[@JayTesseracT]

A little jingle our guitarist Acle wrote that we never used. It was the music for the Tess' podcast, until I stopped doing those. So I nabbed it for these lessons to make me appear 100% pro.

[@diczman]

@@JayTesseracT hope someday it will be a new TesseracT song😃

[@rmarc11]

That groove is from end of nocturne??

[@JayTesseracT]

No, but good guess

[@rmarc11]

@@JayTesseracT damn. It’s exile isn’t it lol

[@ishanbora510]

Is it just talent or something else that is required? The insides of my brain seem to itch. Also how do you 'measure' how fast or slow the 'other' rhythm so that the initial count falls on the same time? And polyrhythm is dead easy.. 😢😢 Btw, you are a good teacher and an awesome musician.

[@JayTesseracT]

In the same way that some athletes have a physical advantage, some of us have a mental advantage too. I have always found it pretty easy to hear and interpret numbers rhythmically - which is likely functional autism aka ‘talent’ - but these ‘feels’ can be learned too with time. Slow it down and place it on a grid - for example with the 3/4 polyrhythm, create a grid of 3x4 - 12 beats, and use the numbers to figure out where each of the other number lands within that 12-count: 1+3 = 4 4+3 = 7 7+3 = 10 So the 4’s will land on the 1, 4, 7 and 10 of a 12-note count. Do the same for the 3’s using the 4 to measure the timing: 1+4 = 5 5+4 = 9 So, 1, 5, and 9. Play one of those counts on your left hand, and the other on your right, all the way up to 12, then repeat. You can do this to work out any polyrhythm 👍🏻

[@ishanbora510]

Ohh.. thank you very much . I will try my best to build it with practice..

[@michael_bane_official]

also uneven audio levels from the music and the talking needed constanta djustment

[@JayTesseracT]

I'm very sorry for your awful experience. I'll try harder to offer quality free resources next time. Also, you could just not watch or comment on my videos.... just saying.

[@Badbell45]

14:08 juicy

[@michael_bane_official]

too much drumming no explanation

[@JayTesseracT]

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