WHITE TIGER GOES TO 6.0 - Tiger 1 E in War Thunder

[@OddBawZ]

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[@MIG31foxhound74]

Hello oddbawz i have a idea for a video if you are interested could you try using the b24 liberator bomber for cas also thanks for being a great war thunder youtuber

[@Relatable_444]

Please play the bulldog in the us tech tree

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

Once 'Kings of Battle' goes live, you simply must do a video on the M109. Either one of the five that we're getting.

[@realms5117]

If you want, play the American t34 in 7.0 rank 4.

[@marsfreelander5969]

Germany suffers...

[@ezragipp7855]

One of the things that's most annoying in this update is the M26 to 6.7, like it wasn't over performing. Seriously don't understand most of the changes. 😵‍💫

[@ExcavationNation]

100 percent agree. Gaijin literally thinks the m26 and the the tiger 2h/105 panther 2 are equal. Meanwhile the jagpanther remains at 6.0.

[@greenion4575]

Well I heard soon they're putting IS2 back down to 5.7

[@wahttehfuk]

It's been a really incomprehensible BR shift. It's like they wanted to do BR decompression, but forgot that it was top tier that they were meant to do it with? Everything got moved up... But then nothing was added. It doesn't make much sense at all.

[@defalt9309]

@@greenion4575 lmao the IS-1 needs to go the fuck back down its not good for its BR

[@notsoracistraspberry4168]

I managed a 3 KDR in 3 M26s. Still pretty stupid they can meet a Maus and are the same BR as the T26E5. I would honestly play it over a 2H though it's just a better all rounder and suits my playstyle more

[@burritodoge8450]

Last update: Lets move coldwar tanks to 8.0 so they won't fight ww2 tanks This update: Lets put ww2 tanks at a higher br so they may possibly fight coldwar tanks Gaijin literally took 1 step forward then 2 steps backward

[@38centimeters]

Typical Gaijin

[@lashtrash3770]

Instead of, you know, increasing the brs of the other tanks and upping the max br. They just chose not too ig.

[@INSANESUICIDE]

​@@lashtrash37702+ BRs would solve the problem I think, and as for the matchmaking time they should just poll players and see "do you want instant matches/matches in your own BR" I know which one I want.

[@anarchopupgirl]

I play at 5.3 mostly, and this update is wonderful. Far less wunderwaffen showing up

[@INSANESUICIDE]

@@anarchopupgirl You are going to hate late ww2, basically ww2 tech vs cold war tech, the change is abrupt and brutal, same with early/mid cold war when it moves into modern. Wma301 was at 8.3 with stabiliser 3rd gen thermals and tandem ATGM. Type16fps with the same minus ATGMs at 8.7. Game urgently needs more BRs, everything getting shuffled to the top where a couple of select vehicles decimates everything else.

[@victor_bs06]

"1 step foward, 2 steps back" - Gaijin

[@HiboGentoo]

we uptiered SPH and cold war vehicles for sake of balance at 5.3-6.7 also gaijin: alr guys here ya got the 1960s M109A1 and M109G xaxaxaxa

[@M4rvinBot]

Loved to play Tiger H, JPanzer 4 and Panther on 5.3... this patch made me cry

[@Xray6631]

Keep getting up tiered to 6.7 or 7.0 games and paired with Cold War vehicles now Germany is really tough at 6.0

[@mehmetselim4991]

Yeah also 6.7 no longer gets contant uptiers.

[@JackTheNoober]

When I was playing thru Germany I just sticked with 5.3, Tiger H1 and Panther D. There was no point in going up to 6.3 with Tiger 2. Constant up tier games and you are forced to fight cold war tanks with heat. At that br, your armour means nothing and you're just a slow big target waiting to get shit on.

[@Tiiliroskis]

​@@mehmetselim4991I was playing 6.7 and 3/4 games were uptiers almost😂

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@mehmetselim4991 Didnt noticed that, i even keep using Tiger II with M48, cause its pretty much how i played it before most of times...well untill i got the maus.

[@Xray6631]

@@JackTheNoober I just love the panthers to much to use only 1 per game but honestly I might take that advice as 6.0 is my highest br for Germany

[@bogdan5]

love the M22 interaction, just made the video so much better. Also, the tiger 1 is by far the best box shaped tank in the game, as long as you stay angled you will bounce many, many shots. P.S best way to know if you're angled enough is to have the gun barrel hanging off the corner of the tank when you're looking in the enemy's direction.

[@cqpp]

The T-44 and T-44 100 is actually better, it can even bounce tiger 2 shells if angled and if you wriggle the turret. It's harder for a tiger 2 heavy to kill the T-44 100 medium than it is for the T-44 100 to kill the tiger 2 both spaded. You can even stop some heatfs sometimes by angling your sideskirts a bit.

[@N4CR]

Black prince is even better box shaped tank in many situations. It'll tank a shot from the tiger and pen it while angled. That said a tiger is far more versatile in most maps.

[@bogdan5]

@@cqpp the thing is that the t-44's fat cheeks make its angling useless unlike the bullshit mantlet that the tiger 1 has

[@England_Is_My_City]

What about Cold War tanks and heavy Ussr tanks tho?

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@bogdan5 IF you hit them and volumetrics wont say: "You know what? No kill for you."

[@smolwavingsnail9028]

I switched to the lower pen higher tnt and never looked back. Its nearly always a one shot. You hardly ever need that extra pen. Its definitely a worthy trade off

[@thickboi7570]

I learned that the short 88 shell with the fat amount of tnt will almost always overpressure making it arguably the better shell. They didn’t move the flakbus with has the short 88 cannon with the overpressure shell and it’s literally the tiger’s gun with a laser rangefinder so I’m surprised they didn’t nerf it. still a very fun sniper TD (:

[@brickbrainzwarshipcraft]

Jumbo

[@FreePalestine07462]

Sometimes you won’t pen, I would rather pen than get killed

[@nicojokelin5547]

Only reason to use the higher pen is that it gets less bullshitted by soviet heavy tanks

[@smolwavingsnail9028]

@@FreePalestine07462 I found that in most cases the fact you one shot them if you do pen combined with decent angling then the lower pen is far superior. The difference in pen isn't really that better. And most of the shots you make with the higher pen you could likely make with the lesser.

[@stevemartegani]

This map is getting removed because its just sitting at the corner watching B like Oddz was doing, not because of sniper alley.

[@RaptorJesus]

My favorite tank is the Tiger P. That 204mm of armor in the front makes it basically unstoppable, because from a distance(or at a glance) you look like a normal Tiger, more specifically you look like a *new* Tiger player, because you aren't angled. Most players will then aim for the usual weakspot...only to be stopped dead.

[@eightfour5087]

Unfortunately the tiger 2Pis now a completely pointless vehicle with it being the same br as the H now lol

[@GudrezBilly]

I believe he's talking about the Porsche Tiger I, tho. @@eightfour5087

[@walliwabbel]

​@@eightfour5087he isn't talking about the tiger 2

[@ThePinkLemon1468]

​@@walliwabbeltiger 2 P

[@Thekilleroftanks]

@@eightfour5087 hes talking about the porsche tiger, not the production turret tiger 2

[@yojlik]

5:10 you hit the sprocket! soviet sprockets are made with Stalinium in this game; it's impenetrable and indestructible, while also swallowing all the shrapnel to prevent destroying the track

[@operationsteel2412]

that's not a sprocket thats a return roller

[@ushikiii]

1) War thunder doesn't model "return roller wheel" (not sprocket!) damage, it's not a soviet exclusive thing lol 2) the shot obviously wasn't hitting the track 3) The IS 2 has 90mms of side protection, in addition to the return roller structural armour, which I think is modeled, that is, if I had to guess, 100mm of raw thickness and he was angled. The tiger 1 only has around 140mms of armour pen, that gonna bounce, if he wanted to kill the is2 he should have hit the upper part side armour, or turret. Both of which granted are hard to hit when the target is on the move.

[@Stratigoz]

@@ushikiii And at the same time 20s earlier said nothing about that barely angled sherman bouncing his shot at the front. Odd lost any credibility (if he had any at all) with his constant bitching about rUsSiAn bIaS and german ''op'' tanks. He is the worst kind of cc. You will not see him once asking for Allied uptier/nerf even after matches with 20+kills.

[@nuclearkitten6421]

@@ushikiiiit’s at a distance

[@hakzource8660]

After the update, my 6.0 lineup kinda got ruined because of constant uptiers. Ironically 6.7 France was more enjoyable 😂

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

6.7 france is good. Much better autoloading panther with trolly (and better) armor, Amx-13, with decent (not m56 or bulldog BS, but still) gun, and even premium one with ATGM`s.

[@TheMalarz1989]

Yeah, I really enjoyed 5.3 and 5.7. I do not play at those BR any more. I skip to 7.7 and up. I can not imagine someone trying to go through German tech tree right now.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@TheMalarz1989 Well, it was painful enough even before, imagine that you just get tiger/panther and have no idea how to play it (TT goes straight from weak-armored Pz.4 to panthers and tigers). Everyone else gets their main tanks (T-34`s, shermans, even italians) much earlier (with the exception of france, it is a mess).

[@darwinism8181]

One thing I picked up from one of the ZoltanSultan videos is that when you attach your tow rope to a husk you move it radically more easily, even pushing. It definite saves a bunch of time compared to repositioning to get around points where there's a bunch of ex-tanks.

[@tanks4lyfe509]

Yes its because ut puts the husks in neutral allowing them to be moved easily

[@kriskay5020]

Don't worry German mains, I'm doing my part to reduce it's BR by being terrible with it

[@Heinz_von_Westfalen]

Thank you for your service

[@sabi771]

me too

[@ilikesnow7074]

I nonpened a BMP-1. I'm doing my part.

[@btfo5082]

@@Heinz_von_Westfalen name checks out

[@Heinz_von_Westfalen]

@@btfo5082 I know right

[@DustyGamma]

30:43 It's like a little kid wandering into a meeting of 1% bikers. Some of the most terrifying people, but the little kid is safe as can be.

[@Hafutsuri]

you can say alot of things about the tiger, but damn does it look good.

[@nicksalehi97]

Angling a Tiger after this update has proven absolutely useless. Most people have more than 90mm cannons that just laughs at your angled armor as if its butter. Panthers get one shot by mostly anything in their frontal plate as well. Basically the entire German lineup at 5.7-6.7 just became light tanks that move very slow.

[@N4CR]

yeah notice how none of his matches were uptiers except one and he didn't see anything challenging but that t29?

[@DavidLee-gm9tp]

Damn it’s almost like you get to experience what us American mains have been dealing with for years now

[@tomusklisus5805]

Wahh wahh Germany not overly strong

[@thesupreme8062]

Lmao you do realize thats every tank innl the game? The problem is the compression

[@DavidLee-gm9tp]

@@thesupreme8062yes I’m aware of the huge issue of the BR compression

[@gaijinrecors9396]

This tank definitely fights M46s and T95s well.

[@CatsAreAmazing8187]

Sarcasm?

[@PhoenixOfArcadia]

@@CatsAreAmazing8187 Nope. At 6.0 in a full uptier it will face M46's and T95's. Both of which are 7.0.

[@ilikeships9333]

American tanks at 7.0 6.7 are now mannaces to things like this in a max uptier (IS 1 VS T34!!!!) and the things you just mentioned.

[@ilikeships9333]

@@PhoenixOfArcadiaalso is1 gets to fight tiger 2 h now no stab to barrel shoot no armour so it’s just a slow target

[@pellevif1913]

@@PhoenixOfArcadia Not like any tank is really good in a full uptier though. Look at Jumbo vs IS6. There are tons of examples everywhere.

[@rl6694]

Oddbawz sparing an M22s life: absolutely awesome. The M22s reaction was prizeless, too. AND the KV-2 played along, too. ♥

[@MISTERX_5890]

My biggest problem with it is how it destroyed Germany's 5.3 br. Before the only 5.3 german vehicles was the Tiger H1, Jagdpanzer IV/70, Nashorn, and Panther D. Now its really just the Panther D and Nashorn which are not a full line up. Even 5.7 Germany took a hit. Now only having the Waffentrager, Jagdpanzer IV/70, Premium Tiger I(P), and Tiger H1. Again not a full line up. If there was any sort of German players leaving after 1 death it will especially be now as we have not enough vehicles for a full line up.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

And Nashorn is not a good tank, to add more fuel to fire (Emil, that is now required to unlock it is straight up better, even Max, that is 3.7 II rank is better). So now we have only one good 5.3 tank + spaa (ostwind II), that is on next rank. Lovely.

[@dovakien5358]

Yeah they decimated Germany at 5.3 5.7

[@Molo9000]

Dude. You have the IV/70(V), the way undertiered prototype Panther, Panther D and Nashorn and you no longer see the good IS-2 and Pershings. That‘s not a destroyed lineup. That‘s a buffed lineup

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@Molo9000 IS-2 is still here. Medium pershing never was a problem to begin with. IV/70 is 5.7. Prototype panther is pure glass cannon, none of 4.7 and higer tanks will care about its armor. (except for Kv-1(zis5), another snail victum)

[@MISTERX_5890]

@@Molo9000 VK-3002 has weak armor and a slow turret traverse and is 5.0, Jagdpanzer IV/70 is 5.7, Nashorn only has a long 88. It is opened top and has no armor or gun depression, You will still face IS-2s, Panther D has very slow turret traverse. It is very much not buffed

[@SchrodingerMil]

The fact that they moved up WW2 tanks to be able to match with Cold War tanks after their previous adjustment is one thing. My biggest problem with the German BR Changes is that upgraded vehicles are all the same BRs now. I used to have a lineup of the Tiger H1 with 5.3 and below vehicles, one with the Tiger E and the Panther A at 5.7, then one at 6.3 with the Tiger II (P) and the the Panther F. But...All the Panthers are the same BR now besides the Panther D, and the Tiger II (P) is the same as the Tiger II (H). Why is this the case? the Panther F has more turret armor, and a rangerfinder. It is a straight upgrade over the Panther A, so why is it the same BR? The Tiger II (H) has nearly double the turret armor and more turret traverse over the (P), so why is IT the same BR? There's literally no reason to use the Panther A or Tiger II (P) anymore.

[@thaerahmed282]

They just throw the logic from the window they can't just rise the tiger 2 h and panther f more then 6.7 for tiger 2 h or 6.0 for panther f because at the moment if you face 7.0-7.7 tanks with tiger 2h or panther f your gun and armor almost useless and if they don tier them make no sense and they will crush everything face them at more lower br so they just throw them at 6.0 for now and stick with 6.7 tiger 2 h for now just pray they don't rise tiger 2 h more then this or even delete it

[@thaerahmed282]

İ think they should buff and rise the br 0.3 for panther f and make it cheaper

[@ThOmAsSs4563q]

I was grinding germany literally just unlocked the tiger 2 p and its pointless so then I was like oh panthers and they're all pointless now ..... Gajin gotta fix compression its stupid

[@EnsianceI]

panther f has a worse turret armor and a rangefinder, that's why it is same br. tiger 2p and h are not same and not same br.

[@EnsianceI]

nobody replying that tiger 2's are not the same br shows war thunder community's low IQ tbh.

[@JasonParker_114]

I love watching Odd fly the do335, he’s an old hat at German do fighting.

[@Steegampoota]

They moved cold war tanks up, but they also moved everything else. Gaijin just unredeemed themselves 😂

[@ericrisinger1241]

9:44 strangely badass thing to say before the kill

[@АлШ-н1м]

The moment with little guy was awesome. People can be friends even in the shooter

[@ShawnF6FHellcat]

So instead of always being in 6.7 matches, it will always be in 7.0 ones... lovely... I can already feel the suffering from HEAT and HEATFS... People complain about German BRs, but in my experience, playing Germany means a 90% chance of full uptier, 9% partial uptier, 0.95% partial downtier, and 0.05% full downtier.

[@N4CR]

and 100% chance of playing against multiple 2-4 man teams clubbing ez german noob teams.

[@svenneumann2816]

​@@N4CRno, but playing against IS-3/6 tryhards.

[@alfonsberggren9456]

I always gets ful downtime when i play Germany

[@rendycoya]

play the is 2s in uptiers,u will feel true suffering,those things should all be downtier back to where they were

[@ShawnF6FHellcat]

@@rendycoya I've been putting off playing Russia because of the bad taste that it will inevitably leave in my mouth...

[@branojuraj9063]

the best thing is, they put panthers in same BR, except of Panther D, we do not talk about Panther D. (defend the D point)

[@bahamut256]

I play the tiger a lot, I find you aren’t really safe even while angling unless you have a wall, because of the poor side armour behind the tread wheels. It’s comical how many shots could have killed odd in this video if people had just aimed slightly lower.

[@Seresh-j8m]

That M4 in the opening stage is basically me most of the time, even sticking behind friendlies so they get seen first I usually don't get much damage done before being knocked out. It feels like even though I am trying to stay alive and be useful for the team, it's just drive forward and die a lot of the time. Sometimes that's back to hangar too if a vehicle's SP is expensive.

[@Ent1610]

Since this thing is already 6.0, Gaijin really needs to let players empty the front right side ammo rack

[@m50ontosvibe]

Can’t even play the tiger h1 anymore! Constant uptiers...

[@tamtenztyu1761]

I don't remember the last time I DIDN'T have an upteir with h1

[@Assupoika]

That revenge CAS at 6:03 is big reason why I think that in ground RB planes should start on airfield or at least a lot further away. Too many times when you kill someone, 30 seconds later there's a plane dropping bomb on you.

[@kakapokid1796]

I don't understand why that's not already a thing

[@flpmlks5181]

what for? :D revenge run is 95% chance you will get shot by someone else :D if you are playing such a game in some point someone will kill you. deal with it :D

[@holokyttaja5476]

​@@flpmlks5181Every single cas clown like you should be banned

[@Martinsix]

I would rather disable the killcam in RB. Or the damage indicator to enemies. Be much harder to kill someone if you do not know what died in his tank.

[@adimaiuniversal4361]

@@Martinsix try simulator, unless they have the dmg indicator there too

[@t10god]

LETS FREAKING GOOO!!! ANOTHER ODDBAWZ TIGER 1 VIDEO!!!!

[@GewelReal]

Odd you should play the Jumbo because it's 5.7 now

[@orthy853]

Lot of good information. I HAVE BEEN PENNED THROUGH THE MANTLET. Its a huge nightmare and it happens often enough to be frustrating. 300+mm of armor and some shells go through easily; usually IS-2 and other Russian tanks.

[@LTVG.]

Ya know it always felt like a very fair fight when fighting a tiger in an t25 or m26

[@jackstailers3248]

As Someone who Mains the Tiger E and the Panther D, I have had good experiences in brawling, as most people aren’t too confident in fighting. Only downside is if you get over ran, or your crew is a low level in that tank

[@thefamilydogs3213]

I hope they find a way make this map work. The way this map was intended to be played made a victory difficult for both sides.

[@protostryke6031]

I can’t believe that Wt is removing that first map, I know it’s not great but it’s damn better than a lot of the maps which are not be removed such as fire arc I think the name is. And I know that Wt can’t remove all the bad maps because with the exception of 2 or 3 they would have to remove all of the maps.

[@YamiYugi13]

I still refuse to play on fire arc if I get it I just leave

[@medojed8266]

Quite frankly skill issue with all honesty, Fire Arc is "bad" is so damn overexagerated by everyone. I had only few bad games on the map, and besides Berlin is by far the worst map to play on for me at least, other than that I have no issues with any maps. Fire Arc has it's issues but you all simply joined the trend of saying how shit the map is without any justification. All anyone can think of as to why the map is shit is because "lmao one side can spawn camp", they won't spawn camp if you are capable to kill them before they can get to your spawn dude.

[@TemplarGamer56]

@@medojed8266Berlin is a great map and is fun to play . You just have to be patient and snipe .

[@FreeFrance1940]

5:11 That guy is made out of Stalinlium the IS-2💪💪💪🔨

[@johanlassen6448]

"Such a boring way to play. Not very effective either". Tell that to my 12 kills 0 deaths AB run yesterday. I honestly don't understand Gaijins map choices. Every map is being turned into a CQB map, which is not even how tanks are supposed to be used.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

Yeah, i didnt played in a map where 1km+ shots are possible in a long time already (not counting poland sniper spawns).

[@BloodyCrow__]

Bahahahaha AB

[@Cafferssss]

Finally unlocked the first tiger yesterday, its a bit of a gruelling job when you end up up tiered in that. Cant see how playing the E is going to be any better at 6 when im always up tiered. (literally ALWAYS)

[@bradfordbroswtent.8450]

One of my favourite vehicles is the US T20, B.R. 6.0. The last thing I want to see shooting at me is any kind of Tiger, having the Tiger E bumped to 6.0 is ridiculous, the T20 should've been dropped to at least 5.7, All the Panthers, Tigers and most nations tanks can obliterate the T20 with 1 or 2 shots with relative ease, These BR changes are gonna be just ridiculous.

[@sushiman3817]

took it out for one game, got a full uptier, and got enough for a nuke still lol. It's a monster, even at 6.0.

[@RussianRainbow]

Heavy tank No.6 my beloved, you will be missed. Not that it's gone or anything, I'm just not fucking touching it at 6.0 KEKL

[@kv_5_gtpa657]

Japan have vehicles for a full line up challenge.

[@Mr.Ak-here]

So happy you brought the DO 335! One of my favorite aircraft! Keep using it pls!!

[@p1zza_party_156]

Can you play 8.0 leopard, it's also been moved up but no one's made a video about it

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

Yeah a pointless change to do...something at least?

[@BloodyCrow__]

All l7s should be 8.0 m47 105 needs to go up too I play 8.0 Germany, China, Israel, Italy. Leopard 1 is fine at 8.0. German mains need to just learn to play tanks with less armor. But no they whine and think its 7.3 material some how.

[@NoahGlorioso]

This is great because I just got the Tiger E and I usually watch the OddBawZ video on any vehicle I get because there's almost always one for it.

[@Aubital]

the interaction with the M22 completely made my day. So wholesome :D

[@omeritzhakniya8114]

The best thing you can give as is that do 335 gameplay That’s why I love you odd

[@JanBagels]

Germany has been well and truly fucked with the BR changes, they don't stand a chance against the constant 7.0 uptiers, Im back to 5.0

[@ExcavationNation]

Hey odd I hope you're well brother. Appreciate the video bro.

[@swynty777]

Most of these recent br changes were pretty unnecessary imo

[@AnonymousWerewolf]

"Not every tank can take every tank it comes across." Really good summary of playing France.

[@plzplz-oo7bd]

WHY would they move the type 74 in the Japanese line to 9.0?!?!?!?! That thing is already overwhelmed by anything at 8.7, aswell at the type 89 and type 87 RCV?! The type 89 is overwhelmed aswell with the ATGM nerfs? This update wasnt even needed imo, more AIR RB balancing wouldve made sense but BR changes to ground RB was unnecessary.

[@joskarifinaukr6503]

Spooky stuff. I was watching Legit Burger's one division challenge video where this absolute madman conquers the world in Hearts of Iron using only one tank division and no other ground forces. I left him a comment saying that it reminded me of the Russian film, "The White Tiger." Then I went on to a video about the orks in Warhammer 40k, and the first video on the recommended list from there was this one.

[@Wubb333]

tiger my beloved

[@arcroyal1258]

Wubby hubby

[@villie86]

The whole M22 story was so wholesome. Loved it.

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

Still waiting for Gaijin to add the BDRM-2 and it's multiple variants into the game, as it can go to many nations. Russia, Germany ( Because of use by East Germany), and Italy (Because of Hungary). Hell, even if Gaijin were to act super crazy, it could go to the US (As it was captured by the Marine Corps. during the 1983 invasion of Grenada, after the country became Communist after a bloodless coup in 1979.)

[@liladoodle]

Russia, Germany, and Italy sure. But the US for a historical reference, I doubt it.

[@Dozerdawg14]

Wooo new video keep up the good work manz. Love your content

[@armadox9773]

Even if you are in 5.0-5.3 yall end up in uptier battle again😂

[@mesidiasvellal8353]

Absolutely right even 5.0 tanks fight against 6.3 tanks , Classic Gaijin ed moment

[@elitely6748]

This BR update never made any sense tbh and I hope Gaijin actually fixes decompression. But it really is a wonderful time when OddBawZ uploads, the Tiger 1's and 2's are honestly some of my favorite tanks to play!

[@american_gator]

Tbh I don't play Germany often, I play America most but I don't agree with this thing going up to 6.0 I think it should have stayed at 5.7 its not a hard tank to deal with the jumbo is scarier then it in my opinion so I don't think itbshould have gine up even as little as it did because now people trying ti play it will get constant 7.0 matches where they eill just suffer horribly

[@thaerahmed282]

True the tank need nerf not not up tier or they just rise the br for all tank from Cold war and above like air battle trees

[@tomusklisus5805]

​@@thaerahmed282oh shut up it doesn't face cold war tanks

[@TrumpeterOnFire]

_Russian engine sounds approaching_ "The whole enemy team is Russian here now." -8:25 I see what you did there.

[@Deadlocked-ye1zo]

I’ve already tried a couple of matches at German 6.0. It’s still enjoyable

[@boravedat2931]

are you ok sir?

[@halodude4481]

It’s pretty much the truth I played a match yesterday to see how well it was so I turned on all my boosters(bc they were almost gone so I wanted to waste them) and went into the match and got 10 kills and 2 assist not loosing a single crew or repairing once

[@boravedat2931]

sp your guys supporting this shit? why because "german main dumb and the tiger gun can pen 1 shot" doesn't mean it deserves this why the fuck is everyone supporting these shot changes??

[@bradywarford992]

I get to fight these in my t29 now haha all those games I got bullied at 5.3. My turn finally

[@Black.Templar_002]

I'm not really mad about the tiger e (why ppl play it no idea) I'm more so mad about the H1 cuz I can't use my normal 5.3 lineup anymore

[@chrischeng9145]

Ye im mad abt this too

[@rendycoya]

welcome to the average russian mains world i guess, our only viable lineups getting murdered by unneeded br changes is the deal when ya play russia

[@hunterfromhalo]

Well I wasn't playing this game recently and now I just won't go back till the tiger is back at 5.7 and away from 7.0 garbage.

[@DarkBalladYT]

Same for me and the leopard just finished its research before I quit guess I'm not gonna be using that garbage till they lower it back down to 7.7

[@obsidianjane4413]

You must have been recording this during the "Chinese Farm" history pages mission. That would explain the horde of M51s.

[@jimmystoney8029]

Hey Odd, play the Jumbo 75 next which was moved from 5.3 to 5.7 now

[@DontStealMyNoEffortName]

which makes no sense because the gun is terrible for the br

[@rendycoya]

@@DontStealMyNoEffortNameits still strong as fuck,stop complaining,its more of a tiger bully now than ever

[@DontStealMyNoEffortName]

@@rendycoya armor wise it's great but the gun is heavily lacking compared to everything else

[@rendycoya]

@@DontStealMyNoEffortNameit is,but thats not a problem,most tanks youll fight have weakspots you can pen,just 50 less pen,not like its gonna be the difference between penning a panther turret face or not,nothing can pen that

[@DontStealMyNoEffortName]

@@rendycoya the 76 jumbo is a far better tank in game as most things it faces it can pen, a panther turret isn't that hard to pen. not to say the 75 jumbo is bad but it just has a different play style than the 76 due to it's underperforming gun for the br is is at

[@ozelotsoffunT-jz2rt]

The many overlapping plates and the driver sights are volumetric hell and i have bounced 76, 85, 100, and even 122mm straight from the front

[@jirinavratil6232]

2:54 what? you gotta be kidding? Why would they remove that, its one of the best maps in game and one of the few urban maps in the game...

[@armorhand3332]

States in intro: "...it's not a brawler..." First match: advances into urban streets to lead spearhead in house to house street fighting LOL

[@kchapo_4202]

Typical oddbaawz not to call gaijin out on the bullshit but find every excuse to justify there actions

[@thatdude1435]

This

[@am3lia420]

That first game was one of the best games I've seen in my life icl

[@torifin755]

wait. so the Tiger H1 is 5.3...but the Tiger 1 E (a somewhat mediocre tank even at 5.7) is now 6.0? why?

[@DarkBalladYT]

Its stupid really but I guess the snail just gets worse and worse I feel bad for people who haven't grinded this garbage before the br change because now I'm sure it's even worse

[@svisj]

H1 is moved to 5.7

[@DarkBalladYT]

@@svisj I'm so glad I dont play Germany anymore it was my first nation ingame but over the years its become boring past 5.0

[@duckman5891]

Damn I’m early. I saw spookston vid on the tortoise. Plz collab more it’s hilarious and entertaining.

[@I_want_White_Cheddar_Popcorn]

I feel like everyone forgot the Tiger H1 got moved up too. It used to be 5.3 now its 5.7

[@that_dude1638]

It's a bit sad that it moved cause the H1 at 5.3 was my love but 3 Panthers and 1 Tiger at 6.0 makes a nice line up

[@KaiserTimelapses]

The problem withe the tiger changing BR is I constantly get up tiers

[@kumaflamewar6524]

watching odd play the do-335 is just scary.

[@manouverr]

guys im 1 minute late, im super sorry guys

[@notafrog2040]

HOW DARE YOU

[@byson8628]

Relax Canadian

[@ExcavationNation]

You have some explaining to do mister.

[@empire-classfirenationbatt2691]

Don't be sorry, be better

[@schizooochud]

leave this channel, this second

[@Pollefar]

By far my most played vehicle! Always felt superior at 5.7

[@redbarrelentertainment]

Let's flip the script around on Germany mains now. "Just angle and you're invincible in a full uptier!" Tanks in uptiers hardly have armor just shoot them!" "Just flank bro!" "Well you have CAS so it's deserved!" Notice how that sounds when it's y'all that get to hear it for once?

[@cqpp]

They have been hearing it forever, including when the British centurions amd Caernarvon were all at 6.7 with their stabilisers, apds and better mobility, to make things worse they were hard locked to fight Germany in matchmaking, so you could farm golden Eagle wagers by using the British lineup and you would get an easy 70%+ win rate just bullying German ww2 heavy's which were slower, had worse armour, worse penetration including angled and no stabiliser unlike the centurions. People like you have just all been living in an echo chamber, presumably because you guys do nothing but play USA all day and never bother to play other nations to a significant amount including the German tech tree you find so OP.

[@mateogarcia6942]

I am a germany main and the matches have been much better since the changes

[@thesolstice_8122]

Hi Odd 👋🏻 Could you play a Soviet line up at 8.0 with the Obj. 120?

[@russcole5685]

Cant wait for your reveiw of the F111A

[@xstorm_8_shadowx]

Not true about the spot where you said not to go, it controls a choke point to B and you can rack up plenty of kills from there and I do believe i have a couple videos of it

[@sharilken]

People that RP as small children [locust and L3] is the most fun I have in warthunder

[@thickboi7570]

Does it deserve to be at this BR? Express your opinion in this comment. 👇

[@DarkBalladYT]

Obviously not

[@MISTERX_5890]

Does yet a 4th tiger deserve to face cold war vehicles and HEAT-FS? Nope. Downtiers in Germany 5.7,6.0,6.3, and 6.7 is nonexistent

[@advorak8529]

Remember your meal times - that’s where you want the enemy to be for good angling.

[@Beard_Since_14]

I feel more sad about my Russian lineups with the is2 going up again! How it is the same as a tiger 2 is beyond me! With worse armour, worse reload and no depression!!!!

[@r.slaurent437]

Dude, I logged in to see my t-54 1949 was at 8.0 now.... Good thing I don't play anymore lol

[@gaiofattos2]

Well, thats histocary accurate. They were in service by mid-90's in soviet army. Now speaking the truth, m26, is2 and 75 and 76 jumbo deserved better Br.

[@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537]

Use the B shell and cringe shoot their LFP's. An IS-2, actually geared as a real 1944 and not an M fantasy, should not be the same BR as half the Tiger 2's that are the same year and capability as the T29 and T32 in match maker terms. Technically the Tiger 2 105 should be out of the game entirely. The ability to spam invinciblepressurewasherwagen is one of the more annoying things in this game that the plebeians just accept because not demanding change demands nothing of them (lazy invalids). source: I was playing IS-2 the other day, and the Tiger skirt/track slop add-on and gun collars are super bullshit. Panic shot a couple low and they just kept exploding like that, lmao. "Hey Jarrod, catch this" **fish slap to the transmission**

[@alanwatts8239]

"Gonna get shot from behind" -Turns around "Now i'm gonna get shot from THIS behind" lol

[@brentonherbert7775]

As a british player i have this unknown ability called.... Aiming skill. So honestly i take the extra pen because its so much better at range and against weird volumetric. Iv tried the higher explosive mass so many times and it just doesnt work for me as well as the standard shell does. And the standard shell is never lacking for punch ether so i never understand why people forgo it for a shell that already 1shots 99.8% of the time. that extra .2 is just the usual snail nonsense anyway.

[@NitroNuggetTV]

As a British main as well, I'll still take the extra explosive filler over pen. If you cant kill with a few mm less pen, your aiming skill is exactly what's letting you down lol You're using pen to compensate for not aiming for weak spots. I just carry 4 shells of the higher pen shell for when they're actually needed.

[@brentonherbert7775]

@@NitroNuggetTV Like i said in the comment though... At what point is the default filler in the high pen shot not enough. Thats like russians malding that "the lancaster is OP" because its bomb is twice as big. Ignoring the fact it only has 9m more destruction radius. If you hit it both are going to kill it. One is just a lot easier to use for the same result. Like i said you will not miss out on any kills for taking the lower filler than you would the higher one like seriously.

[@Average_sr71_fan]

Are we gonna ignore the corsair hitting the p47 with a hvar at 29:46

[@samadams2203]

The common thread of these three games is the USA is on the enemy team in all of them. Between 5.0-6.0 specifically, but on either side as well, the team that gets saddled with the USA tends to have a harder time. Germans and Russians have better guns and armor, and while US vehicles tend to have the best mobility and stabilizers, these take more user skill to leverage, meaning its the least impactful on wining battles. So many overtiered american vehicles in the 5.0-6.7 bracket especially, most of them easy one-shots for Russian and German vehicles of the same BR. Does USA have the best CAS? Sure. Soviets have the best anti-cas though, and Germany have several good aircraft like the Do335 and reliable 109s. Ground should not be balanced by aircraft availability anyway. It's just sad to me, that, when I load into a new battle my first thought is to open the scoreboard and see whether my team got saddled with USA or I get some easy kills when they're on the opposing side.

[@alistairdiren5790]

For me the answer to Angling Tiger 1 is APCR the round can pen the front and sides when the tiger is angled and can definitely go through the trolly mantlet, it's always amusing to see stranded angled Tiger1s after losing their driver and gunner futilely started shooting mg42 rounds at my approaching Jumbo 76 only to die after i switch rounds from APCR to APHE and blap the front or side, of course getting revenge bomb is a guarantee but it's worth it.

[@jackstailers3248]

Until you wiff your shot and get one tapped

[@alistairdiren5790]

@@jackstailers3248 I've still yet to die to a Tiger 1 in a Jumbo 76 if it's a Tiger 2 I'm pretty much dead.

[@aquadox5514]

​@@jackstailers3248Nah, the mg port will just volumetric the shell into the freedom dimension.

[@JohnDingus_16]

Tiger E going to 6.0 isn't anything new cause 5.7 is constant uptiers anyway 😂

[@rockig5529]

The famed IS2 sprocket!!

[@tarkovgoon4865]

German mains cant use one brain cell in a fight. Me being one my self had to learn the hard way too but coming back to 5.3(5.7) with new exp makes it alot better. So to all US main complaining about german main pls let them be they are just like us when we first startet the game