Are the Spikes a Buff or a Nerf? - PUMA VJTF in War Thunder

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The PUMA VJTF in War Thunder is a German IFV that we all know and have loved or hated. This version comes with 4 Spike Missiles that as usual... fall a little short of the mark. Sometimes literally!
The PUMA IFV is no stranger to the game now. From the BONK BONK BONK of old where it pretty much ran a train on the matchmaker, to the point where it got put to a battle rating where it was a bit more balanced... it's still a solid IFV when compared to the Swedish over-tiered versions.
The PUMA this time around got Spike ATGM's that are fire and forget. The problem is, for some reason they don't really behave very well compared to the Namer. This makes you play in a way where you're not relying on the Spikes so effectively we have a 10.0 PUMA at 10.7 with 4 near useless missiles.
I still really enjoy the PUMA despite not enjoying IFV's in general, so it was at least a little bit fun to play! :)
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[@crangonV]

Colors in the video look extremely contrasty and washed out, almost like watching an HDR video on normal display without proper mapping or what not. Is this intended as in some pro level visibility trick or what's happening? I have noticed this on your last few videos, but here it is even more extreme.

[@Mellenius]

@@crangonV Spookston said something being Glitchy about Nvidia and knowing OddBawz uses a 4090 it is possible there is some recording bug dealing with HDR. Likely his display he uses is HDR and the recording software whether OBS or whatever is getting the wrong color/brightness signals.

[@raizencore]

Spikes seem to work much better against aircraft than ground vehicles.

[@michaelbarnard8529]

I thought spikes were AA weapons.

[@raizencore]

@@michaelbarnard8529 honestly, I don't blame you. lol

[@boat5138441]

The most fun you can have is sitting in a cap and yeeting spikes at helos

[@SexyClaus]

Yeah they only really work good againt helis

[@yungyork5425]

​@boat5138441 I hate it so much because I don't have spikes in any of my TT and they get me from kms away as soon as I spawn 😂

[@michaelbarnard8529]

“This is pretty chaotic right now” as you wade through half a dozen enemies like a raid boss.

[@darwinism8181]

Watching the damage model at 15:27 is crazy - the track eats so many rounds that look like they should be going above or below it and the spalling from the track being hit is just eaten by the fuel tank, over and over

[@TheThoiBoi]

The spikes can be pretty useful for taking out helis in sim

[@wingknutt1130]

I've had several matches where I went back and rearmed my drone TWICE and ended up with 5 out of 6 kills. Never underestimate the agility of the drone to dodge and dive for the deck. Kill power, roll, and dive.

[@liladoodle]

Anything NATO: *Exists.* Gaijin: "You get nerfed, you get nerfed, you get nerfed! Everything NATO geta nerfed!".

[@R4FSAN]

Same with USSR tbh. Especially the 2s38. It really fell off :(

[@pigeon5520]

@@R4FSAN thankfully

[@R4FSAN]

@@pigeon5520 well those yankee mains and ex-Naz- i mean german mains are still crying about 2s38 being op :(

[@gravitatemortuus1080]

@@R4FSAN Its more about its still pretty good for its tier level. Considering the closest thing to it for the USA is over 11.

[@R4FSAN]

@@gravitatemortuus1080 It's more about it's still worse than the certain thing in every way. Even more so considering it got a ridiculous buff recently without getting a BR increase while 2s38 didn't receive a BR decrease for being nerfed into oblivion

[@Juel92]

I saw someone saying that maybe the Namer spikes work better because they're launched more upwards which makes them more reliably hit top-down rather than the cheeks.

[@TheCodMineMan]

I PUMA pants. Odd will single-handedly raise the Pumas BR to 11.0

[@Larsongathestein]

The stock grind against 10.7 and 11.7 is just unplayable though.

[@TheBeholder666]

odd is such a good youtuber that he makes me wanna go back to playing war thunder daily

[@anotherherosfall]

Did you change your brightness settings somehow? I‘m excited for the Defyn colab!

[@relledk]

I agree. To much

[@WigglyWings]

Colour/brightness of the video seems off. Noticed it since last few videos.

[@Person4772]

Contrast seems to be bugged. Spookston mentioned it in their video on the T1E1 (90)

[@WigglyWings]

@@Person4772 Yeah, I saw that video too.

[@jann_0]

Dude i was literally thinking "will odd do a video about puma VJTF"

[@lino222]

22:42 not another wolfpack...it was the same, lmao...he even spawned on the other spawn area, but there was no escaping from the hungry Puma!

[@HotRod-gv4zt]

Just to add onto this information because I've noticed a lot of creators are not mentioning this. You can use the spike misslss on helicopters. Works like a charm. I've gotten a good handful of heli kills with them!

[@bentonstaffel2471]

God i love odd’s accent “10.000h”😂. “Juust steeer mann, not intuh me tho” so funny.

[@Solicle]

I watched a vid on your review of the Vilkas a little while back and you mentioned they were horrible but I swear they’ve been going crazy lately. I get like guaranteed 2 kills on long range maps using the spikes.

[@KlaweKlapki]

Spikes are really fire and forget Fire and forget about it xD

[@zerrierslizer1]

the most New York thing to come to War Thunder.

[@lino222]

lmao...true, it's like they never existed !

[@StarWarsExpert_]

nah, they are more like fire and complain about them.

[@arg1051]

Have you ever driven in Italy? It's a full contact sport, even when you're parked. Absolutely the worst drivers I've ever encountered in my life.

[@blackshuck1175]

Have you tried Paris absolute carnage round the arc de triumph round about I also don't understand why they have traffic lights as everyone ignores them 😅

[@jynger8455]

Yea, the inconsistency on damage in WT is something that really has screwed me mentally, I lately have noticed that when i play some other FPS I slightly pause on rushing because I forget other games do not have that bug, if you hit you hit and do damage as expected not like WT.

[@ryanqube9132]

Yeah this Puma needs to be brought down to 5.7

[@Anteritus]

i appreciate you mr odd!

[@braedonimpila7739]

American M3 halftrack at 4.0 its a beast. Also haven't done a video for it.

[@brycecupp9660]

i know i speak for the community... More OddZ is Better OddZ... for the algorithm 🥳

[@jestricariaan]

just the way the world works....cracked me up, thank you

[@Bidle78]

I’ve played several games with it and really love this one. Spikes are decent but need the right distance and elevation. Hopefully the Snail will fix this. Also the turret gets damaged soooo quick! You need a team mate to fix it,……

[@lfotzblitz7436]

Spikes in general are a mess. You can´t aim them, they bounce off of light vehicles and for some reason the downward angle of the top down approach is not modeled and is registered as flat all the time.

[@blackshuck1175]

I'm surprised that the snail hasn't strapped something similar to the spikes on the 2s38 for RU bias lol 😆

[@annadelsiena]

Have you tried out the 120S yet? I know you hate slow tanks but I think the funny M1A1 turret on this bobblehead monstrosity would make up for the lacking mobility :D

[@User00O0]

love your videos keep it up! These missiles blasts the enemy the targeting AI for these spikes needs a fix

[@bagelmaster2498]

I really feel like they should put it to 10.3 and let it have 6 missiles

[@TabiTheCat]

the color is so harsh on the videos now

[@justinwilliam717]

rly wanted to see you take the ids out maybe in a next vid

[@MikeSnick-ep5kz]

Spike really don't like any sort of movement when firing, and it was pretty frustrating when I started grinding this a couple of days ago

[@bushboi]

Spikes definitely work just fine against me even in a very conservative play style

[@logicmaster756]

With bias there is no balance

[@grimmerjxcts2206]

Volumetric and it's consequences

[@Craeshen]

with how unreliable spikes are they could double the ammo for them and only moderately increase effectiveness

[@The17RJ]

Ive had good luck hitting helicopters with the spikes

[@PurpsUK2]

Odd angry rant about bad driving. 2 minutes later Odd side swipes a team mate who is repairing. Just had to mention that it had me is stitches.

[@Sh4quille0atmeal]

10.7 is a little high for this thing. at 10.0 the 30mm already isnt too great but then raising it by 0.7br just to give it some spikes that dont work half the time is just stupid

[@Xtariz]

I use these on Heli's... works everytime and they don't seem to get any warming :3

[@DarkSoul1992]

Wtf was so hard to just implement it this way: - new modification: Spike - when equipped, tank's br changes to 10.3. 10.7 is complete BS because no line up and a whole ctrl+c ctrl+v vehicle is so unbelievable lame, I can't even find words for.

[@cbev1249]

i would rather just have 2 vehicles, that why you can have them both on at the same time. I think both pumas are too high, no spikes should be 9.7 and with spikes should be 10.0--10.3

[@jordantaylor-ir2rn]

hey @oddbawZ i was wondering if youd do a video on the RU MI24D thats on sale for a few days , im not quite sure how to use these helis yet and itd be nice to see a heli thats not as easy as fire and forget

[@johncmcham]

id rather have these missiles on the bagel 57 at the same BR

[@cannack]

perhaps it is my rat-ish playstyle, but I seldom, almost never get hit with spikes. Like I can count on one hand the amount of times I have died to spikes in the past year.

[@Liam-ei8ps]

am i mad or is the contrast really weird in this, loved the video otherwise but was super bright

[@AverySadBear]

My spikes no longer hit moving vehicles. Or vehicles sitting still. Or anything.

[@Pyroguide_wiki]

Spikes are both.

[@unfairbullet]

Literally both

[@awaster.777]

Can you Please play the m51 next? That Wolldecke be Reallöhne cool

[@Immortal_BP]

18:29 the crew member on our right took a full shot to the head but just turned red lmao

[@samadams2203]

Maybe I'm crazy but I feel like the launch angle for the Spikes is important. Puma has them horizontal, Namur was angled upwards?

[@Solicle]

Definitely, more pen on less of an angle.

[@tsukaharabokuden5892]

So no one uses their commanders sights?

[@goodsoup6085]

You know what would make it good.... fix the spikes, also why are tandem charge missiles getting swallowed by era 😂

[@steliokorda6712]

Regardless of what my opinion was and if i agreed with him or not about other tanks in the past that Bawz has either bad mouthed or praised i ll admit he always had a point! But now i think after the new puma experience he has lost his mind completely! during this video it was proven multiple times that this tank is worthless and most of the time his expression says it all! Also one thing that i cant get out of my mind is the sound of the gun that sounds like a desperate man banging with a hammer a tin piece of metal.

[@Ming-so5pk]

I just hate electeonic parts dude. I ever experience puma 6x time repair in 1 short game.

[@Raxo347]

Day 12 of asking Odd toplay the UDES33

[@bagelmaster2498]

The br rise makes them a nerf

[@relledk]

Why are your new videos so bright. The sky are over expressed. Love your videos, but please go back to your old settings

[@Videogamevideos69]

Day five of asking odd to play the strv 101.

[@curiousgeorge5992]

Why employ only one weapon when you have multiple at one time😮😢🙄🤔🧐

[@Schmorgus]

I wish they could rework Sweden, because there's NOTHING on that map that looks like Sweden 🤣

[@XxRed_Dragon]

Morning

[@TheThoiBoi]

Good morning to u

[@Pollyvx]

wait for russia to get an arduino powered copy of the spike and it being the most broken and overpowered thing ever

[@francoisvandermerwe5103]

Sir I can’t understand you please make Italian subtitles

[@loganlee6357]

I know someone else is watching this right now

[@unitedfront9717]

Why are the colours so weird ?

[@chadofchads7222]

Spikes will work eventually. Probably when a Russian vehicle has them

[@Blazy-DK]

Like if u love oddbaws VV

[@cbev1249]

Imo both the pumas are pretty bad and germany has better things you can use on the same lineup, to each their own tho

[@Toni_4717]

Day 2 of asking OddBawz to play Amx13

[@jgdowell]

ggs

[@jesuschrist2284]

Is your uncollected reward the israeli army decal? Mine is.

[@thecrazyhound6010]

There's tons of better ifv at much much lower br

[@TotallyNotAFox]

Russian tanks surviving ridiculous amount of damage? Pure coincidence..... (Have the same problem at US 7.0 currently)

[@OGPatriot03]

It was a Leopard 2 lmao...

[@Argaia]

Hi

[@zerrierslizer1]

i absolutely HATE it when people just refuse to drive straight or slow down to go around and instead just ram into me over and over and over... like yeah, we get it, you have a Room Temp IQ at best, but you dont have to make everyone else suffer for it...

[@pennycarvalho1223]

They fucked saturation?

[@-pr0vat70]

The vilkas is literally better than this

[@hansiminator69]

It’s day 367 of writing comments for the algorithm! :)

[@alexpayne2662]

IRL The PUMA IFV can only see in black and white as it uses monitors instead of any scopes, and due to the failing electrical system still not yet fixed, they had to disable all colour screens.

[@Serkay64]

Pretty sure that was fixed with the S1 standard which the PUMA VJTF is

[@Path_of_wonder]

Oh I’m early for once

[@Nickles4]

3:40 based odd being based

[@Biobanditten2]

first comment

[@Biobanditten2]

new vid first comment

[@jonashans9755]

first

[@morty007]

****Same thing every video. Never on a bad team. Never spawn camped. Never air camped. Always is #1 at the end of the match. ***

[@LowSqueez]

u really think each and every one of his games are like this? 😂 they just take out the good games and post them, what would be the point of a video of just getting bombed or spawncamped

[@OddBawZ]

I had some boring games in it, too. No point in watching boring stuff, though. In general the vehicle is pretty good and somewhat enjoyable to play.

[@LokiV_WT]

​@@OddBawZI love it as well, my main issue with it is the fact that an ammo explosion tends to kill both tracks for some reason

[@LokiV_WT]

that and the already does literally nothing against T80 chassis

[@cbev1249]

@@LokiV_WT the ammo leading to no tracks is a bug

[@EmmaWalker-c1g]

Watching your channel is like a ticket to a world of fun and joy. Thank you for your creative and energizing work!💄🐆🌺

[@rollastudent]

3:40 wait he was Asian?

[@mainelyastro4694]

9:49, you cannot move tank during repair, yet you are moving……..WTF dude. Are you running some kind of cheat?

[@cbev1249]

the rep finished, the text just takes extra long to fade for some reason. He's not cheating and if he was that'd be the weirdest thing to cheat with