Buyer's Remorse - The Zibanejad-Brassard Trade

On July 18th 2016, the Ottawa Senators announced that they had traded forward Mika Zibanejad and a 2018 2nd round draft pick to the New York Rangers in exchange for forward Derick Brassard and a 2018 7th round pick. Since this trade, one team has been reaping the rewards, while the other wished they could get a refund...
Join me as I explore why the Zibanejad-Brassard trade gave one team all the buyer's remorse!
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[@GBGHighlights]

As a Rangers fan, when this trade announced I was so upset. Brassard was one HELL of a player for the Rangers. Fortunately the Rangers got the better result as of today

[@jimunit333]

Imagine how Zucc felt

[@GBGHighlights]

Jimmy Rust we dont talk about that ahaha

[@leeapoth]

Same. Loved Brassard. Love Mike more.

[@heftyhugh9086]

Sell high. I thought it was a great trade at the time. Obviously, we all loved Brassard, but I knew how Zibanejad could be.

[@parkerbeard6170]

I felt the same, but something in my mind told me it could work in the Rangers favor for the long run! Sure enough I was right

[@alexandredaigle8479]

I was upset the second this trade happened and its gotten worse ever since

[@bumsuckaduck]

We don't even know if Zibanejad would've stayed in Ottawa or been remotely as good. Cheer up.

[@alexandredaigle8479]

@@bumsuckaduck Obviously we don't know if he was gonna be good in Ottawa or not but there's a good chance his development would've landed him in the same elite state he's in now

[@bumsuckaduck]

@@alexandredaigle8479 for my money zibanejad wouldve been traded at the deadline last year same as the others or potentially earlier regardless. Yes the sens couldve got better return at that point but again its all speculation and its not worth being gloomy about. Not also forgetting that brassard did play semi decent in 2017 getting the sens to the eastern conference finals. Would be much more upset about the duchesne trade

[@bumsuckaduck]

@@alexandredaigle8479 also would like to mention the sens traded brassard to the pens when he was a 40 point guy, roughly the same as zibanejad that year. (I know the circumstances would be different relative to salary cap and state of career)

[@joehung1552]

@@bumsuckaduck and the Penguins have regretted it.

[@disneyfan8719]

Didn't they trade Zibanejad cause cheap ass Eugene Melnyk didn't wanna pay his signing bonus and then made the Derick Brassard trade a three way trade cause he didn't wanna retain his salary?

[@thinkingjack]

Melnyk was still angry about Alfredsson leaving a few years before so he started this bizarre exodus of shipping out all Swedes too. Paired with being a cheap piece of shit, that triggered this trade too

[@GooseGumlizzard]

But Melnyk traded for Bobby Ryan and gave him that huge ass contract even though he wasn't that good :thinkingEmoji

[@andyc9979]

@@GooseGumlizzard 🤔 deep thoughts lol

[@WakkoKakko]

Melnyk also didn’t want to pony up the money for a long-term deal, and when the Rangers agreed to pay Zibanejad’s signing bonus, that was when those picks were exchanged.

[@Zenon0K]

Other way around. Ottawa didn't want to have to pay a bonus in Brassard's contract, so the trade was delayed several weeks so that the Rangers were responsible for it.

[@flippingelectrons]

For once the Rangers are in the better side of this story!

[@Yomasi]

Well there's the Gomez McDonagh trade too

[@NyRangersfan1357]

@@Yomasi also the jagr trade

[@Yomasi]

Yea ngl the Rangers make good trades

[@shaunmattice6413]

Plus they also got a good trade with the Bolts for McDonagh.

[@NyRangersfan1357]

@@shaunmattice6413 eh that's debatable. Don't forget JT miller was also in that deal.

[@daviddeutsch9912]

Jesus now I can’t see the Rangers without zibanejad love this man he’s the heart and soul of the team, still remember when he had 5 goals in a single game with us 😂

[@thekillingtomat]

man, i played against zibanejad back when we were both 16. im not at all surprised at how good hes gotten since then.

[@robbobb4050]

I am a Ranger fan, and at the time of the trade, I thought it was a good deal. I had heard good things about Zibanejad, and knew he was a great young talent. I of course was disappointed to see Brassard go, but I knew he is from Ottawa, so I knew he'd be happy there, so I was happy for him.

[@alexroura]

Exactly my thoughts on it too. I was going to get his Winter Classic Jersey a week prior to the game, and my family was like who tf is that? Safe to say they know who he is now. Sadly I had to settle for Lundqvist instead.

[@gsfootball983]

To be fair, despite the fact that Ottawa did lose the trade and Zibanejad has one of the best contracts in hockey at the moment, I don’t think this video paints the full picture. Brassard was in Ottawa for two seasons and in that time he had 77 points in 139 regular season games. In that same timespan Zibanejad had 84 points in 128 regular season games. The main differentiator in those first two years was the fact that in 2017 Ottawa had the deepest and most exciting playoff run they’ve seen in 10 years, which likely would never have happened without Brassard. Big Game Brass was acquired to help in the playoffs and he did. The other part that was left out from the video was despite the fact that the Zibanejad trade remains one of Dorions worst trades to date, the trade that sent Brassard to Pittsburgh is probably one of his best. Ottawa ended up with: - 2016 2nd round pick, Filip Gustavsson - 2018 1st round pick, Jacob Bernard-Docker - 2018 2nd round pick, Jonny Tychonick - 2019 2nd round pick, Mads Sogaard - 2020 3rd round pick So although Zibanejad is exceptional and still continues to improve every season, the 2017 playoff run was invaluable and when weighed with the prospects Ottawa subsequently acquired I’d say the scales are closer to balanced.

[@nyrangersfan22]

We absolutely robbed the Senators

[@rykzz6941]

Absolutely fleeced the Sens, but turns out they’re gonna have two top 5 draft picks! So maybe they’ll turn it around and be way better in the next coming seasons.

[@nyrangersfan22]

rykz z True. Not gonna lie it hurt being eliminated by Brassard and the Sens that year

[@nyrangersfan22]

First you have to not be in the basement of the Eastern Conference

[@nyrangersfan22]

Keir Patrick The Sens are going in the right direction, just like the Rangers

[@MikeTheKoopaWarrior]

But Dick Melynk is owner...

[@MrSportsFan231]

Loving the buyers remorse series. keep up the great work, odd man rush!!

[@hickettsisepic989]

Another great video, your easily one of my favorite hockey channels I’ve found recently, keep it up

[@tylershep4220]

Colorado Avalanche LEGEND Derick Brassard

[@dylanc1896]

Brassard was better than the noob Nathan MacKinnon

[@rickseiden1]

Rangers' fan here. I only have one thing to say about number 93: #ZibanejadForCaptain

[@chrisonydotcom2317]

BIG fan of your videos and work.

[@deepvoicegames5024]

as a Rangers fan they have been trading well over last few years. its strange as its normally the Rangers on the wrong end of trades

[@11DNA11]

It's usually us signing guys with dumb as all hell contracts. Remember the pre capspace era, when we picked up Bobby Holik for like 12m a year?

[@37willdog]

Perfect sell high move by the Rangers...Buffalo, this is how you properly execute a rebuild. Take notes

[@Benben-qj2ez]

Yes their rebuild has been executed properly. They finish 7th in their division and they are massively overperforming

[@GooseGumlizzard]

@@Benben-qj2ez "massively overperforming" what does that mean?

[@broadwayblue222]

@@Benben-qj2ez What an ill informed comment. They tore an old team down and rebuilt it in a couple years. This year was house money...the future is looking really solid for NYR.

[@rustykuntz94]

Rangers really have done a marvelous job he last year or 2 rebuilding with youth and some key moves w trades for player w still valuable upside like Panarin & of course Zibanejad

[@oceanthresher6184]

Graydon Calder they’ve had a “young brand new team” for years with plenty of front office housecleanings in between, but with the same garbage owner each time.

[@Jo8Nathan]

Zibanejad might be my new favourite Rangers player when Lundqvist retires. He has the same combination of great charisma, skill and energy to make the game incredibly fun.

[@imveds6590]

Yea same here he’s gonna be are best captain in while

[@twonine8217]

correct Lindquist needs to retire

[@adampruzan5963]

Brassard played great cuz his lineman was zuc who made him better. Was so pissed but damn can’t be happier now

[@ghouston69]

Strange enough I remember a few Ranger fans I know complaining about this deal when it was made. It is was an absolute steal for the Rangers.

[@broadwayblue222]

Brassgod was really good for us in the post season. But yeah, in hindsight this is really an incredible deal.

[@megaboom69]

Rangers actually got a good deal out of it. I couldn't believe it.

[@noiisserpmii]

Man how we did win in 14 or 15 makes me sick. When this happened after all Brass did for us i was mad but man look at us now.

[@sethers]

12:10 best since the trade that brought in Brass tbh. Gaborik going the other way ended up barely playing for CBJ (though he would beat NYR as a member of the Kings...) and Rangers also got John Moore and Dereck Dorssett who helped their 2014 run.

[@petergregoretti4226]

The rangers are the most promising team. The 2020-2021 or the 2021-2022 season is when the rangers are gonna be a stanely cup team. That is if we make it past 2020

[@ratedRblazin420]

HAHAHA. That's funny. Been hearing that since 1994. How's it been since 94? I'll sum it up for you. 25 underwhelming (failures) years with 1 Stanley Cup Finals loss sprinkled in there for good measure. An original six team with 4 cups lmao. That one cup almost every quarter century. We can sum that up with one word; pathetic.

[@austinperriard1173]

Mika is a stud now and for sure the trade was a steal for the Rangers but if you look at what the Sens flipped for Brassard the Sens were able to get a pretty good return. Ottawa received a 1st rounder, third rounder, Ian Cole (flipped for another 3rd rounder) and Filip Gustavsson. So I mean I’m pretty happy with what we got from Brassard

[@epodegro]

Thanks

[@soccercanal9479]

You should do a buyers remorse of Jeff finger, he played with the maple leafs

[@joetoomey1560]

Could you do the Panarin pick up

[@mathieuo3968]

Yea, some European scouts messed up big time when they skipped on him

[@KillJoy323]

I dont think zba would have emerged into the player that he is today if he had stayed on ottawa

[@nikolasdenicola2005]

I remember being so happy the rangers got a good young player for a more expensive older player. I never saw the current reality coming though.

[@UncleAnaesthesia]

I mean, it was an upsetting bust for Ottawa and I'll be the first to tell you as a lifelong fan of the team, but Derick Brassard is one of those players who benefits from a highly defensive regimented system, which is why he kind of experienced a rebirth in Long Island under Trotz and why Ottawa under Guy Boucher pursued him. And like your video indicated, Brassard was a playoff performer and that's what Ottawa ultimately wanted, even if it was at a high price of a coveted prospect in Mika. Brassard will be on a Cup-winning team one day, but maybe not as a star like Mika.

[@dandychiggins9028]

Huge Rangers fan. Was a big Brassard guy. He wasn’t called big game Brass for nothing. However the trade for zibanejad was a steal for us, even at the time. I know Ottawa gets a lot of flack for the trade but let’s not forget that the Sens were a goal from the finals the season following the Zibanejad trade.

[@mitchellskene8176]

Selanne and Kariya going to Colorado would be an interesting Buyers Remorse episode

[@ariccua6101]

What's funny is... Brassard is now back in Ottawa after playing for a bunch of teams.

[@bumsuckaduck]

-All hindsight, Brassard was, in fact touted as a better player at the time -Zibanejad would've been traded most likely to get draft picks (knowing how Eugene is) -1 player can only change a franchise so much and for that reason I don't think Ottawa would've avoided a rebuild -Brassard did in fact help them reach the eastern conference finals and who knows (literally impossible to know) if Zibanejad would've actually pushed them over the line It's a bad trade for the sens but it's not like Zibanejad would've even been the same player he is on the sens (in fact I would argue completely against him being a great player on the sens) and for that reason I don't look back on this trade overly negatively.

[@TheRichardson711]

My thoughts exactly. As a die hard sens fan I feel no buyers remorse. I value that 2017 playoff run so much that I'm happy with everything they did to get there. from an objective point of view obviously the sens 'lost' this trade but I don't mind it. Everything from that team is gone now anyway, eventually Mika was gonna get purged.

[@Wexter0083]

@@TheRichardson711 To be fair even then we have not fully lost the trade. If we look at the full trade tree we flipped Brassard for Gustavsson who can still become an NHL calibre goalie, a draft pick which we flipped to draft Jacob Bernard-Docker a potential Top 6 or even elite level defenceman. So the deal can still even out to a win-win for both clubs as if Gustavsson becomes our starter or even Bernard-Docker as a key anchor on our blue-line then I think we'll be fine. Much like the Karlsson trade, this is a trade waaaayyyy to early to call when you're dealing with prospects. Remember when people thought San Jose won the Dany Heatley trade? Right crazy things can happen in the NHL.

[@mayuyufan]

@@Wexter0083 JBD as an elite level defenceman... I hope you define elite differently from the norm because you are the first person i have seen put elite and JBD in the same sentence lololol

[@Wexter0083]

@@mayuyufan Not a lot of people were calling Zbanajad elite either till his breakout season last year. Always been a Z-bad fan so I was disappointed to see him go, but he did play a number of his years under Spezza so it does not surprise me that he had learned a thing or two and emerged as a fantastic player. As for JBD he has become something very special in the NCAA for the University of North Dakota as he put up 25pnts and was a +21 in 32 games played which is very solid points totals in the NCAA for a defenceman. That and he has consistently improved his game every year throughout his career. He was disappointing in the World Jrs when you look at his points totals, but he was very defensively responsible. Ottawa does not need another points guy, but a defenceman who can compliment Chabot and Branstrom which JBD can provide. Hence why I said he can be Top 6 level and Ottawa still would not have fully lost the trade, but if he turns Elite it can even out. We need to understand we cannot fully judge a trade till a good chunk of the prospects has panned out.

[@user-qb1lq9xf1d]

I remember I hated losing brassard. But mika really became elite with rangers

[@ethanburns8209]

If Ottawa didn’t make that trade they wouldn’t have a chance at a 1 and 2 overall pick in 2020

[@coreyhill681]

Can you try Ottawa senators and San Jose Sharks trade

[@neroameealucard945]

Have you Covered the Patrick Sharp trade?

[@carpetclimber4027]

The Senators clearly didn't know about the Zuccarello effect. Also, thank you GM uncle Scrooge! This is competing with the Gomez/ McDonagh trade.

[@matttricomi2259]

i really liked brassard but i gotta say this deal was great. not to mention ottawa had to sweeten the pot with a second rounder that i believe was used to move up in the draft to select k’andre miller

[@letsgobruins4977]

Oh man this one must hurt!

[@bearwooden660]

Ziba is a legit 1st line center. Thank you Ottawa for getting him over to us!

[@danieldupont3060]

it remind me of the trade between the Sens and Avs

[@squ33k13]

Should also be mentioned Ottawa got a first round pick and Filip Gustavsson in the trade with Pittsburg Ottawa took defensman Jacob Bernard-Docker who is looking quite good and could be become a top 4 D

[@Skinner851]

True

[@oceanthresher6184]

All I see are a bunch of names the Senators will run out of town soon enough.

[@jimking2299]

Long-term, it looks like a big win for the Rangers. But don't forget that the Senators with Brassard knocked the Rangers with Zibby out of the playoffs in the first season after the trade. They gave Pittsburgh fits in the East final and were one double-overtime goal away from the Stanley Cup finals. Brassard played well and then was traded for picks and prospects more in keeping with the team's youth movement/rebuild/salary savings spree. Zbad will be great, but Ottawa wasn't exactly fleeced.

[@youngo1]

You didn’t mention filip Gustavsson.

[@done1675]

At the time, the deal made absolute sense for both teams. It's only in hindsight (as always) that we can evaluate this trade as highway robbery.

[@connorjameyson3002]

This shows you just gotta trust Gorton

[@Awwscrewit]

This trade set Ottawa back years. If they'd kept him Colin White would be more protected and not forced into a role he isn't ready for.

[@pauljames6353]

The moment I saw this trade I knew the Rangers stole Zibanejad and I hate the Rangers. His potential was way too high. Brassard might have been a better two way player at the time but you could argue Mika was already as good if not superior offensively already. Add in the fact Mika was 6 years younger and it makes this trade more unbelievable, that it actually went through. In Mika's 2011 draft year he was the guy everyone said could end up being the best out of that draft in the years to come, along with Huberdeau. He just wasn't as NHL ready as guys like RNH, Larsson and Couturier for example. These are the type of trades that set back the Senators for years. This and the Duchene trade primarily. Should have just held onto him but that's why Ottawa was the joke of the NHL for those few seasons. Good to see them turning it around though. They got a lot of young talent even if there years from contending.

[@nygisgod]

this trade was roadkill, LETS GO RANGERS

[@jacksmith5692]

Actually Gorton has made some great deals running the Rangers. They traded Ryan Spooner for Ryan Strome, what a steal after getting Spooner as part of the package for Rick Nash. For Nash who sucked in Boston, the Rangers now have Ryan Lindgren, K'Andre Miller, and Ryan Strome after swapping first round picks to draft Miller. Can you imagine a rental in Nash who stunk in Boston and the Rangers end up at the end with Strome, Lindgren, and Miller. How about signing Adam Fox from Calgary who didn't sign him? Half their defense now is Fox, Lindgren, and Miller and they also stole DeAngelo who played fine but was a jerk and basically was kicked off the team. They now are playing young Libor Hajek on defense who was acquired as part of a package with Tampa Bay so 67% of the defense was made by shrewd moves and Strome, Zibanejad, and Panarin look pretty good up front. The Rangers have an army of young defenseman coming so in the next year or two they'll have great assets to play or trade. I wouldn't knock Jeff Gorton that much. He needs some grit and a guy to win faceoffs but they are the youngest team in the NHL.

[@Skinner851]

This trade was all about Bryan Murray. People don't realize how much Murray loved Brass. It was a very stupid trade but when Murray wanted a player he always ended getting them. Bryan was an amazing coach but a horrible GM. Money had a little to do with it but it wasn't everything.

[@rjdaire38]

This video has aged very well lol

[@nickkaufman4078]

rangers obviously won the deal but anybody that knows about hockey can understand why the sens did this, they were in a win now mode and Mika wouldnt have help them for the time they needed, Dorian was about to flip Brass later for a franchise goalie, and now look at the trades Dorian has done, has won basically all of them

[@TheAngryCanadian1109]

Do hall Larson

[@SuperRangers21]

Mika Magic Baby!

[@jonathancote9372]

Pierre Dorion still don't know what he's doing he's the new Garth Snow ...

[@leohabs0774]

Dorion didn't make the Mika trade...

[@MJ-vy3jg]

He did pretty good in the 2nd bassard trade as well as the pageau trade

[@jonathancote9372]

@@MJ-vy3jg we're still talking of the man who trade 3/4 of his team who where one win away from beating pittsburgh in 2017, i mean garth snow took a bad team and made it worst, but Dorion took a playoff team and make it arguably the worst team in the league (besides Detroit)

[@aidenlacorte9854]

The rangers didn’t trade their best players at this point

[@joefriday7609]

Say what you want about the trade but with Brassard the Senators took the Penguins to the brink, game 7 overtime in Conference Finals. Zibanejad is now playing with Panarin which makes his Stats look really good. BTW I would like to say that I would rather Zibanejad any day of the week

[@hermunkulus]

AV's stubbornness cost the Rangers a trip to the Conference Finals in 2017. In two of Ottawa's wins, the Rangers had healthy leads which were blown as a result of trotting out their worst defensemen during the final few minutes. Also, Panarin is not the reason why Zibanejad's stats look really good.

[@clashman7950]

Wrong, Zibanejad plays on the 1st line with Krieder & Buchy, & Panarin plays on the 2nd line with Strome & Fast! The ONLY time they ever play together is during key late game situations & OT!

[@llllllll153]

U guys got to the conference final that year cause u guys played the 1-3-1 neutral zone trap. Without that trap u guys would’ve been nothing. Playing that kind of style of hockey doesn’t require that much skill. Rangers definitely should’ve won that series too.......

[@joefriday7609]

@@llllllll153 I should be a millionaire.. but I'm not

[@benyang2427]

You also can't forget that Mika plays both ends of the ice, can chip in on the penalty kill, and can carry a line by himself.

[@thomascapellini1306]

I always liked this trade Mika always looked dangerous to me

[@ibefullofme]

I never got why Brassard was so coveted, he was never that good.

[@beamerball666]

Yeah he always seemed to show up in the spring, tho at times he was the only one

[@dangerpea6099]

So odd hearing such a proper accent talk nhl hockey. Its almost like my cars GPS is doing Hockey night in Canada voice over.

[@evman7911]

The panerin effect

[@mickeywicked478]

What do you mean?

[@franjes9999]

Jesus I wish Pittsburgh didn't trade for Brassard 😔

[@Jukahlah28]

Bing-hamton OOF

[@hectorrivera9032]

New York Rangers feature Dynasty

[@josephpetrizzo3524]

The ny rangers are gonna be a team to recon with in the yrs to come, i wouldn't rule them out winning back to back Stanley cup championships in these yrs coming up, there a young hungry team that will stop at nothing until they get that prize mark my word's the ny rangers my friends are coming and they are a hungry team. 🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒

[@nathanmcdonald8891]

Penguins also have buyers remorse with brassard. God he was awful!!! plus complained about being third fiddle to Sid and Geno 😂

[@beamerball666]

The Pens trading for Brass was like becoming CEO of a billion dollar company and hiring your middle school bully to be a shift supervisor

[@e_sleeper]

Ik the ppl who own the Binghampton Sens

[@mickeywicked478]

Maybe ucksay their ickday a little harder

[@LetsGoWrongboarding]

No team deserves Melnyk

[@ratedRblazin420]

I guess they gotta win something since they can't win any Stanley Cups. An original six team founded in 1926 with 4 Stanley Cups. That's one Stanley Cup pretty much every quarter century. That's pathetic.

[@Drew74161]

Lmao seethe harder clown ,1st overall pick, top 5 farm system the rangers are gonna flex hard on the islanders (Wah wah we had a dynasty 40 years ago wah) or whatever lame team you follow for the next ten years so buckle up

[@mickeywicked478]

Nobody cares about that. ‘Overall championships’ is an overrated stat. Nobody cares about the 20’s, 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, or 80’s unless you’re in your 40’s, 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s, or 100 🤷🏻‍♂️ The Rangers are easily one of the most dangerous teams in professional sports nowadays, you wanna disagree with me? I dare you..

[@standardyeepz]

Worst trade of the 2010s

[@JJ-bi5qx]

HAHAHAHA LETS GO RANGERS🟣🔴🟣🔴

[@ScottBub]

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[@sharksfan81hj73]

DEAR HOCKEY GODS PLEASE PLEASE DONT LET OTTAWA WIN THE DRAFT LOTTERY THIS YEAR WITH THE SAN JOSE PICK I WILL CRY LIKE A BABY BEGGING SANTA FOR A RERUN AT THIS SEASON 😭.

[@QuantemTekGamingtv]

In fairness hes being carried by panarin

[@codymason2471]

He doesn’t even play with Panarin 5v5... Lmao

[@reignofrock]

@@codymason2471 Yep, you're right. If anything, Strome is the one benefiting greatly from Panarin. Zibs is doing fantastic on a different line.

[@donmor8029]

they rarely play on the same line..but whenever they do they seem too compliment each others game..both skilled n smart. n for ottatwa idk of all the minor leagues in the world they drafted someone out of high school..couldve used too get someone else.but eugene melnyk is cheap n stupid

[@cashtheyen4113]

Hold that L Drake

[@QuantemTekGamingtv]

@@cashtheyen4113 lol I feel so defeated I'm melting. I'm not even a sens fan