Off-Meta Politcal Vernius | Vernius, Atreides, Ecaz & Corrino

Off-Meta Politcal Vernius | Vernius, Atreides, Ecaz & Corrino - Dune Spice Wars PVP

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Turin

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@quentincollins1825 8 ай бұрын

Hmmm...while helping a friend move the other day I may have uttered, "Help me with this haggard armoire." 🤔

@turinRTS 8 ай бұрын

Riiiise!

@daevohk 8 ай бұрын

Love it! I think there is a lot of space still in the meta to explore for many different factions.

@nathanm8174 8 ай бұрын

Ecaz here, very cool game. Despite my earlish callout I was very surprised by the 1.1k gov vote since I was trying to assassinate Corrino, which I flubbed by not replacing a captured agent. Props to Ze Gentleman for allying together with me against other threats (we beat down Atreides together after you died) despite the bloodfeud. I do think assassination into gov would be a strong Vernius play.

@_TheOldMan_ 8 ай бұрын

GG! Really cool meta break. The corrino ship flying over before he broke was an opportunity, hes using it as an airfield, so sniping it before he could prepare and break would make it harder for him to join. (At least directly into your main). I also think a combination of assassination and politics would be a cool option. 3v1 is definitely too rough + im not sure you could contest a second governor upvote on the next council?

@bigolbearthejammydodger6527 8 ай бұрын

maybe its assassinate 1 player and then try for gov? can you make the 2 strats work together? good vid as always chap! OR feed suboids to ecaz champs until ecaz looks like a hedge threat then gov?

@mathieucozien5736 8 ай бұрын

I'm addicted to Vernius gameplay videos!

@davidsiewert425 8 ай бұрын

I think Vernius is the hardest and most interesting faction. So its entertaining seeing the Author suffer and/or succeed with it.

@johlin94 6 ай бұрын

Damn that was a good game. I think a combo of assasination and gov would be very strong. Also, maybe attacking Corrino's Capital ship to force them to pull it back or to drop their troops earlier than they wanted to would have helped in the base defense. But hindsight is 20/20 so, who knows? 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♀️

@patrickvasconcelos3001 8 ай бұрын

it has a great run for sure. ^^ how can I join this dune discord communit? I really appreciate the multiplayer, I wish I could join in. ^^

@turinRTS 8 ай бұрын

discord.gg/mQcZa698

@Hargrovius 8 ай бұрын

You went for gov too soon. Should have waited until one died.

@davidsiewert425 8 ай бұрын

I think you needed to delay your voting count to not scare people off as well. I think this game, because of the 4 players, is a 100% timing game.

@Kakorott 8 ай бұрын

Getting gov when all 3 players are still up feels really rough. by the time you can get the positions, there is no way 1 army can beat 3 (assuming the lobby plays together properly)

@abudgie6909 8 ай бұрын

Maybe governorship could be buffed to give some kind of military/defensive bonus. CHOAM gives you 15% more army power. But I don’t know enough about the game to make statements about which win cons are too strong or too weak.

@studentt6064 8 ай бұрын

You kindof need to sneak it in when someone else is already winning (lots of choam, or high heg), otherwise you just get ganged up on. In general you don't really want to show how much ahead of the pack you are because you just can't beat 3 other players lol. Gov is definitely the hardest wincon I think though, because getting enough influence to outvote 3 other factions is already quite difficult by itself.

@davidsiewert425 8 ай бұрын

I think the assassin counsellor for Vernius is a must pick. If the other people knew you did not have them they could have easily relaxed.

@turinRTS 8 ай бұрын

yeah, I wanted to purposefully not take it, but I agree, its so good.

@Xanthate1845 8 ай бұрын

Knowledge agreements always benefit them more than you. They get a research discount on all your techs, and since you're Vernious you'll have more unlocked than they do. They get to follow your tech paths for massive discount without needing to invest in knowledge

@thomasguiral7121 7 ай бұрын

Absolutely right, whenever there's a Vernius player in the game I always ask for a research agreement, they see the +2 knowledge and go for it, without considering how that +20% boost is going to in fact make me leech off their tech more effectictively. In the long run, whenever they cut you off their tech, you'll have reached a much higher tech level than normal, which is even better since the rest of the lobby doesn't think of doing this as well So, even if everyone is truced with Vernius, there's one faction getting much more from the truce than the others

@Socragames 8 ай бұрын

7:30-8:00 why do you want to hoard tech pickups?

@brodiecooper4986 8 ай бұрын

So he can blast through several techs all at a once. It’s especially good after you break treaties with everyone so you surprise them with a massive push they thought you were thirty minutes away from.

@Socragames 8 ай бұрын

@@brodiecooper4986 Thank you

@_TheOldMan_ 8 ай бұрын

@@brodiecooper4986isn't the whole idea to use imperical data before you pick em up? I dont think people generally have enough info on the enemy tech tree to be watching it the way you're describing.

@brodiecooper4986 8 ай бұрын

@@_TheOldMan_ jeeez dude vernius can share tech with allies through treaties. You can see exactly what they already have, and plan around it if your allies with them. Otherwise it’s because you can build up a massive amount of research speed making those pickups worth 2-3 times as much. It’s definitely wierd though so I get the confusion.

@thejoker1323 8 ай бұрын

I feel like with a clever obfuscate, maybe this could havegone down differently. Like taking away siege incentives, though not sure whether anyone had it.

@turinRTS 8 ай бұрын

yeah!

@ItsJxdeGaming 8 ай бұрын

I love playing political vernius trying to get the truce with all factions for extra landsraad, the first blue tech aswell for 10 extra

@ThePoeSalesman514 8 ай бұрын

Turin! Try a fighting mech (the melee drone) along with your early suboid legion, instead of the rail drone. The little bit spent on Solari repairs is more than made up for by the manpower you save on healing and replacing suboids.

@davidsiewert425 8 ай бұрын

The councilor with the "replace main building" seems kinda useless, never seen it usage, even in this game. You mostly pick your most common/favorite buildings and never switch. You have to have a plan ready since the start of the game for that buildings should be switched. It feels even wasteful, since you lose all plastcreet above 500 anyway? So the only way not to lose plastcreet is if you had exactly 0 before dismantling a hq building.

@magni5648 7 ай бұрын

I mean, if you sit on 4k+ plascrete, why even care if you waste a bit?

@davidsiewert425 7 ай бұрын

@@magni5648 Okay about the wasting part. What about the part where pretty much no-one uses it?

@thomasguiral7121 7 ай бұрын

That councilor could be made so much stronger if they made it so that you either got +4 knowledge for every district building (bringing the max bonus from 3 to 9 which still isn't crazy, but more defensible as a pick), or that every district bonus applied whenever you filled a district with three buildings. That way he'd be a more competitive pick against the usual 2

@AdamSchadow 8 ай бұрын

Turin the way suboids work is they buff each other it literary says every time you select one they get +5% power for each suboid near them.

@LadyMorrigan 8 ай бұрын

I think they also have an armory upgrade that buffs drones in your army tho.

@turinRTS 8 ай бұрын

They do!

@turinRTS 8 ай бұрын

I'm aware, but they also have an armor upgrade that buffs drones

@AdamSchadow 8 ай бұрын

We really need some hero in this community who gets the numbers and does all the math so we know what is worth doing and what not

@philb6887 8 ай бұрын

Or you just do it and Experiment around thier Army set ups…suboids are great in 8-10 Units even late game. But you need to avoid ae damage sources (skirmisher, grenadiers, Flame throwers and ofc turrets)

@virtuian1 8 ай бұрын

does it seem like there will be an expansion to this game? does this game mostly or only occur on Arrakas(?)?

@mrman1088 8 ай бұрын

I doubt they will expand to the wider Dune universe outside of Arrakis, so far the entire game takes place on northern Arrakis

@MagnusArchitectOfFate 8 ай бұрын

Genuinely, why you’re not trying to get experience upgrade for engineers as soon as possible? It allows them to level up drones much quicker. In my personal opinion, it’s a must have

@chronic6428 8 ай бұрын

i, too, believe it' their best upgrade.