OFF-ROAD LIGHTS 8 TIPS YOU DIDN'T KNOW

[@Ronny_Dahl]

In Darkness We Find Camp merch: www.4wheeling-merchandise.com.au/in-darkness-we-find-camp-patch

[@c5173]

should have mentioned checking the regulations, in some states lights on the roof are illegal on the road - as is any object that obstucts the vision line over the bonnet , a lot of lights/light bars are mounted atop the bull bar and violate that rule, can be costly.

[@blacksheep6888]

Instead of adjusting the roof lights out to gain perifial gain or lighting up the side of the track or road, try the opposite, try angling the lights inward, in other words cross the beams, that way you eliminate the dark patches. Try it it works

[@gaz8410]

I've always have a couple of towels or blankets when adjusting the lights. Block everything off except for the one I'm working on. Once I'm happy, see what it looks like altogether and tweak if needed 😎

[@jaredsims7949]

Congrats on winning the AFL Grand final Ronny, you had a great game, best ruckman in the game.

[@user-yq1yq2hj4h]

This is the 4 Wheeling in Australia content I like to see. No stupid editing, no sell out attitude, not over commercialised. Please return to this type of content Ronny. I really have tried, but I can't get into your new style. I understand why you are changing though, the algorithms determine the path of a lot of channels. I guess I'll keep my eye out for someone who hasn't been hooked yet.

[@niceguy91320]

Thanks for shedding some light on things often over looked when decided on lights.

[@clemdoog3354]

Another great video. Most important tip here I reckon is the one about when changing to LED headlights, make sure you readjust the alignment….there are so many drongos out their who don’t and it’s freaking annoying!

[@4WheelingInNSW]

Or don’t even fit them in the 1st place as they’re illegal if not factory fitted from day one unless you add in the auto adjustment and washer jets 😉👍

[@nordic5490]

No restiction on high beam, but fitting LED low beam is illegal, with good reason. Low beams should have a clear defined cut off and should never dazzle oncoming drivers, and thus must be ADR approved. DO NOT FIT REPLACMENT LOW BEAM - PLEASE.

[@4WheelingInNSW]

@@nordic5490 it’s actually illegal even on high beam in the factory housing. Light bars, spotties etc are fine in LED but not in factory housing 😉👍

[@nordic5490]

@@4WheelingInNSW more precisely. It is illegal to change a low beam reflector, or to fit a leg bulb inside a hi/low housing. Ie, it is illegal to change the optical properties of the low beam spread and cutoff without engineering appoval. Those headlight housings that have a separate high beam reflector chamber and bulb, there is no restriction. I wish the cops would fine and defect all those cars where the low beams have been altered with led dropins.

[@4WheelingInNSW]

@@nordic5490 fine ‘em all ! 🤣🤣

[@mylt1z28]

Ronny, you guys should look into high idle kits for when you are winching or when you need you run your lights while stationary. We run them on our ambulances here in the states for when we are on scene of calls with the lights and AC running. They will keep the RPM's up so you are producing more power from your alternator to cover the loads being run.

[@trumanlynch548]

the 70 series cruisers have that feature standard mate 🤙🏽

[@oggyoggy1299]

@@trumanlynch548 So does a Prado.

[@blackcat4370]

Great Video, which even i with my "under all pig"-english most perfectly understand, oh i'm coming from Germany. In the Video you showed the Problems about driving in dust, my advice for that: If you know the trip will be dusty, then use cover, which changes the white light into amber light! With amber light you even see more by driving when it's foggy or snowing. I'm using a a 20" Light bar with 5 modes (white light, amber light, white flashing, amber flashing & white-amber flashing) and one morning it was under -2° C, foggy weather conditins, without light you could see 2 meters, with light you could see 20 meters, with the farlight it was 10 meters, with the fog lights it was 25 meters and with the amber light of my led light bar i could see more than 50 meters wide.

[@Badger1776]

The first sponsor I enjoyed in years.

[@sammyvukovic4998]

Typical Australian man. You guys are cool. Great trucks. Cheers from Montenegro

[@dbrekke6570]

I bought a pair of Diode Dynamics amber fogs and love them. Super range and spread, help preserve my night vision, and do a great job if revealing changes in the track surface after dark. Don't reflect back as much light in dust as white lights, just cut right thru it. Also work great for day time driving lights cause they're so bright. But at the same time I've never ever had anyone I'm following tell me they're getting blinded. Depending on driving conditions, I will use the Diode Dynamics amber fogs lights, and just leave my low beams off

[@rickwhitmire7933]

I love my amber lights. Replaced my fog lights with Baja design squadron pro amber leds. They are the best seeing through dust. No reflection on the eyes. Nice and low light. And I have a set on my ditch light/mirror hood location. Have them angled out to see in the ditches. Also have rock lights. They are awesome for walking around or placing a tire where you want it. Gotta have light, gotta see! 😎👍🏁

[@aussienscale]

Baby wipes are fantastic on the road for giving your lights and light bars a clean and de bug 👍

[@aussiedrifter]

G'day Ronny, Another good reason for doing desert driving of a night is that once the sand has cooled off its firmer to drive on, trust me at 13.5 Ton we dont like being stuck in soft powdery bloody sand. Another good option when driving in dust at night is we run a pair of Fog light & a couple of amber lenses for the bull lights & that seems to cut through it not to bad mate.

[@deondorfling7070]

Hi Ronny. An alternative list setup I used was with the original truck lights upgraded and 4 external spotties The side spotties were set slightly to the left and right and the middle ones slightly up.. The ones to the sides gave great vision to see "around corners". When a track zig sags you can see what's to come and the ones that are shining slightly up helps when approaching slight inclines in road conditions and also when driving down hills. When driving down hill the main lights light up in front of you but the spotties light up what's to come up ahead. So the road is covered ahead of you but also the approaching corner and also the road above where your main lights can't light up. Hope it is informative. Thanks for the great content. Regards Deon. South Africa

[@africanlipripperstaariqess2338]

Ya here in Africa we're looking for more than just kangaroos 😂 massive potholes, game, livestock, hijackers etc 😂

[@andrevanderwalt2515]

Love this video. My first LED bar was 180W of reasonable quality, I really liked it and it performed well. But the light went everywhere. I now have a single Hella lightbar, 36W, but with a better optics design. Puts light down the road at about 400-500m, like the old bar, but the light is trimmed vertically, so I don't shine up in the trees any more. A decent improvement, from a smaller bar.

[@ryanCODMAN]

Ronny just covers everything when you looking to blow 100 plus grand on a 4x4 love the kid

[@Swwa89]

I love my 2 led camp lights on the roof rack. Between them and reverse camera (and mirrors of course) getting to the top of a dune and realising going over is no good or not making all way up etc makes seeing behind on a narrow section so much easier!!! On the front I just have a set of stedi type x pro's and do alot of long distance night drives and they are perfect for the highway

[@stuart6599]

Great video Ronny, always quality content. If anyone is going to know about night driving, it's you brother.

[@olenilsen4660]

Love how the two of you are just pumping out vids, please keep them coming. Totally agree on the cheap vs. expensive lights. I would also like to add that a lot of the cheap ones have really poor seals, so after a year or two, you might find your lamp half full of water. But in the bush, I would get cheaper (not bottom range, but half-decent) floodlights - not pencil beams. Of course, there are other options as well, like two pencil beam Xenons and four flood LEDs, which I think make a great combo. It will give you great light without draining your battery. Other things to consider for night driving are rear lights. I´d want a couple of LEDs that lights up close to the rear but from a pretty high angle, in case you get yourself in a pinch. Going forward it´s easy to figure out what obstacles your wheels will hit or not. Reversing might be a whole different story.

[@adamdixon2251]

100 dollar hids. No problem after 8 years. 120 dollar light bar. No issues after 6 years apart from paint flake. Even belted 2 skippies with it

[@olenilsen4660]

@@adamdixon2251 Where do you live? Maybe it´s just a problem when temperatures are constantly changing from above to below zero for 6 months a year...

[@stever285]

I have an $800 bar light on my car, blinds me every time I drive past a road sign. I put a $60 light bar on my wife's car, side by side against the garage door you wouldn't pick the difference, out on the road the cheap light does look a little dimmer and probably doesn't have the same reach but it doesn't make road signs flare, still shits all over the head lights. All things considered I think the cheap light provides a more comfortable driving experience. Your right about the seals though, I just pulled the light back off after about two months (mother in law seized the motor) and I noticed a lot of condensation inside the lens. Edit : I just checked, there's no condensation in my $800 light bar...I wouldn't have been happy.

[@adamdixon2251]

@@olenilsen4660 half in north Queensland half in Victoria

[@znovosad555]

i bought some cheap spotlights for my Subaru Outback not wanting to put a ton of money into it and frankly they’re definitely more of a flood than spot. even though i wasn’t expecting super great quality i expected a little more throw than i get. my high beams actually shoot further so half the time i don’t even use them on road because i don’t get nearly enough distance to actually see unless i’m somewhere wooded.

[@seanchristie7150]

Great video as usual, my 2 cents worth is to be aware of your surroundings, particularly on coming vehicles, so many people either can't judge the distance their lights go or are just plain arrogant on the the road. This goes for when approaching a vehicle from behind or an on coming vehicle.

[@samjafari4737]

Another great video, cheers Ronny You can't use those lights in foggy weather too, worse than dusty road.

[@anthonygallo3576]

Oncoming traffic must love you guys!!!! I see you dont run any yellow or amber . No snow or fog in the outback?

[@aj5716]

Good game last night Gawny. Had the Bulldogs stunned in those headlights in the second half (topical joke)

[@OTWD]

Great advice. Another safe reason to drive at night - depending on the situation - avoid dusk and dawn wildlife activity. Cheers

[@nordic5490]

Ha ha ha. Probably driven 100 000 kms at night in the NT. Big distances, and work schedule and delays means day driving is not always possible.

[@SpectreOZ]

And Grey Nomads in Caravan Convoys 🤣

[@petermeeny1038]

(Tip) I always make sure the driving lights don't protrude past the Bullbar. That way small nudge or obstacle strike has less chance to smash them .

[@SerpyBen]

In WA it is only legal to run 4 additional forward facing (non factory) lights. So it is worth keeping that in mind when looking at a setup combining multiple lights. Additional lights that have a solid cover fitted when on road are not considerred part of the four in use are also fine.

[@SpectreOZ]

Indeed, Victoria (the State that bans fun) 6 forward lights is also the MAXIMUM limit for paired lights which must be mounted asymmetrically 👍

[@NasTimeAdventures]

Some good tips and making me rethink the cheaper lights. Cheers.

[@terrarecon]

10:00 the answer to dust/snow, is amber. I don't know if amber lights are allowed in Australia, but in the United States we can use them. I recommend if you can use amber lights where you live, do so.

[@stevenruskin6797]

Harry has the right idea. I fitted proper halogen fog lights, amber bulb and lenses, dosnt reflect off dust any where near as much. Go the amber lights

[@sloth_e]

Ive got 4x strikers on my roof. I use the soread filter on the 2 outer lights and the pencil lenses on the centre lights. Best lights ive had in 10-15 years. Ive also got a stedi light bar that's a milder temp (touch yellower) for closer to town or traffic/convoys. That colour helps my night vision peripherals. I got light force reverse lights amd some stedi worklights. Haha I totally live in torbs's world 🤣🤟

[@MrRockydee07]

Great video. I have a question. I'm really curious: If any kind of amber or yellow Fog lights have been tested, I already have two spot lights and possibly will be mounted on the front Rhino push bar have Crown Victoria police interceptor.

[@cmoreoverland6739]

Great stuff. I would like to see your recommended config between white light and amber. I run a lot in snow (US - High Sierra) and dust (Desert). You mention staying out of dust but not using a good mix of amber vs. white. I use HID for headlights that throw a tight line and good distance. I am considering an amber bar (30 inch) for snow and dust and white spots for augmented visual distance off road. Thoughts?

[@donkinzett3961]

Can't get my head around why you love the night shit ronny,the best part about camping is setting up and having a few beers in daylight

[@888johnmac]

Ronny has said in the past , they like to use every min of daylight to explore places .. i can understand that logic

[@JasonISF]

Agreed. Winter camping yea sometimes it's unavoidable setting up in the dark but summer there's no excuses!

[@rjl110919581]

thank you for share this detail video with other

[@sainbayarb]

I was looking for the video exactly like this, thnx man

[@shahnawazhanjra6531]

Thanxx Ronny 👍🇦🇺keep it up

[@laceb100]

cheap LED and HID lights can cause radio interference as well

[@JohnBorgJacob]

not sure if i missed it earlier, but noticed you are using alloy wheels, i remember you favoring steel wheels before

[@4WheelingInNSW]

Good clip Ronny 👍 just may want to remind people out there of legalities vary from state to state and as far as led replacements like Torben’s, they’re illegal in most states if not fitted from factory due to auto adjustment and no washer jets. 😉 Keep up the good work gents 👍

[@brickgq1661]

These guys aren't worried about legal. If they were, then they wouldn't have so many illegal mods done on thier rigs. Canaries just waiting to happen

[@4WheelingInNSW]

@@brickgq1661 I agree mate 😉👍

[@4WheelingInNSW]

@Judy 21 y.o - check my vidéó go away your unsolicited filth, find another platform to push your vulgarities 😡

[@johnfitzgerald5158]

The US state I live in does not allow auxiliary lights mounted above the factory headlights unless you have covers on them on the road.

[@AndysAverageAdventures]

Need to tweak the patch. No darkness in your camp with those lights. Nice video Ronny

[@kisbushcraftdownunder]

I came to the rescue of a stranded forby on the steep point road they had basically run out of electricity, they had been camped for a couple of days with a fridge on a dual battery set up they left the camp late in the day with lights running, the cars 80 amp alternator feeding a DC-DC charger 50 amps a 300 watt light bar 25 amps after a hours drive then pulled over to air up the tyres a ARB twin compressor 50 amps then it all went dark and the car shut down. With a flat crank battery and a fridge battery half charged it was a long night for them fortunately a jump start worked and they were on their way

[@sbiggs10]

i like your vid if possible can u do a comparison video between cheap light to the most expressive and mid of the road thanks

[@amtsuleihi4760]

where is it better to set your good quality spot lights ( 200 m)? up on roof / or top of front pumper? to get best benefit of far spotting?

[@forreststrong797]

What about yellow lights or amber for the dust? I just recently got some of visionX's selective yellow lights they are supposed to be much better for dust,snow, and rain and whatnot because it doesn't reflect as much. I haven't used them too much yet but I think having the yellow lights are going to be really nice for certain situations.

[@Maverick00555]

Legalities to roof lights as it seems to change to state to state in Australia

[@vtct_ytaa]

hey Ronny, would you recommend a high-amp alternator (and also what amp do the three vehicle alternators have?)? cheers!

[@abrahamreyes4535]

Do you use a backup generator just in case your power in your battery is drained?

[@adinugraha1416]

could you make a video of comparison pajero sport and fortuner, especially on off road trip

[@4xhoser]

Great video!

[@MrSuprastarr]

Hi Ronny i heard that you can you only have max of 4 extra lights besides your headlights...have you had any issues with the cops running more than extra 4 lights?

[@PyrateRumRunner]

Do you ever run a rear facing amber light in dusty conditions?

[@stuartkcalvin]

Good tips for young players.

[@ppasos11]

Hey ronny! Thinking about the idling, what happens with the LED lights that are on the market, do they still drain your battery a lot? Thinking about comments on how some LED’s dont really drain the power but on a higher level it could happen, can you explain? How can you keep track of the volts with a stock and almost basic setup (only running led’s 9inch semi cheap halogens and a power plant for the speakers) cheers from Costa Rica!

[@akhileshenator]

The spread and range of lights is one thing, you really need to focus on the color temperature of the lights. The Kelvin value. 5500K is good for most people in general conditions. But a bit of fog, a bit of rain, a bit of dust....4300K is way better for visibility. It simply just easier for the eyes. The Amber/Yellow covers that Harry was talking about in his Modified video. Also, 5500K creates more shadows than 4300K.

[@justwingit1633]

What do you think of the lazers elite spotlights is there a better spotlight on the market

[@chir0pter]

10:25 do you guys in Australia ever try the amber lights that folks in the US use to cut through fog/dust? Noticing not a single one of your lights are amber would be interested in your reasoning on that

[@Ronny_Dahl]

I think yellow/orange glasses would do the same thing would it not? Will have to try that

[@chir0pter]

@@Ronny_Dahl kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ-wf4VvqMeLfNU I dunno, but here's a review! Wonder how it differs for something like a Baja Designs light

[@sloth_e]

You get them more on the east coast in regions where pea soup fogs are common. But of all countries ive been to Aus uses them the least. Used to be more common in the 80s n 90s though.

[@chir0pter]

@@sloth_e Interesting, in the US they're far more popular in the desert Southwest for dust and haven't seen them on the east coast nearly as much, although think that's changing

[@sloth_e]

@@chir0pter they're a smart thing. I don't have them atm but I certainly had them on my previous rigs. We get thick fogs and snow where I am in southern nsw. And 6ft plus roos and deer n all that. No mucking around on lights and bars here haha. I can see a use for them in the desert like you say. I'll order some soon if they make them for lightforce strikers.

[@thelazyoverlander]

Ronny Dahl, the Jedi Master of night driving, if anyone knows anything about light tips.... it's Ronny.

[@wesleybryan238]

Thank you so much for clarification on this. I have watched your videos for a while and have always wondered how the convoy was always on full beam. Awsome job. Keep it up. Thank you

[@overlandready]

Fog lamps! Wide angle low hight beam. They are great for peripheral vision and ability to spot and not scare wildlife, also able to highlight things like potholes a lot better and quite often black ice is visible too. Must be fitted lower on the vehicle and they don't blind the other members of the convoy.

[@robseager8727]

G'day Ronny, I hate to be a killjoy but you are only allowed to fit 4 extra headlights to a vehicle - Road Traffic (Vehicles) Regulations 2014 - 286.Motor vehicle headlights to be fitted - (4) Up to 4 additional headlights may be fitted to a motor vehicle with 4 or more wheels, a motor cycle or a motor tricycle. Just saying.

[@Smokeyr67]

I'm only 2 years later, but if you use black covers on your lights, they no longer count as light under the regs, so you can mount them but not use them on the road.

[@kingwiththeax6880]

An additional reason that driving at night is safer… tunnel vision. There is less distraction from the beautiful scenery. If you can only see what is illuminated directly ahead, you spend fewer precious seconds focused on some interesting feature in the far distance. It’s like having blinders on, forcing you to only look at the immediate front. If I’m looking at the beautiful mountain top in the distance, it’s easy to overlook the pothole that I wish I would have avoided.

[@laloolhouvum1634]

Ronny, your lights just amazing. I love them very much. But there's a problem and that is money. Cheapest ARB set of spot beam with wire is ₹87K, which is a lot of money. Those light bars may be rigid, baja Or KC.. American can get them in just a couples of 100 dollars. Most expensive one's may 1.5K dollars, but in rupees a set of rigid is ₹27K. Those Lp pro 6/7 are around ₹75-85Ks. Indian brand are not good enough. Chinese one's are better cheaper and brighter, but doesn't really last long. It's hard to get a good light here in India especially for a middle class family like us. Super rich people can get it easily, but for us it's a 5-7 years project.

[@pantoqwerty]

My question would be…. On a bull bar mount (I.e. in the middle section of an ARB bar) is it better to have two spotlights or a light bar which can of course mix spread and beam as well as being just spread or just beam? I’m thinking light vs airflow into the radiator. With spots I could also mount angled out smaller bars for side spread on the outer wings of the bull bar, noting that in QLD we are limited to 4 additional lights only. What’s better?

[@FJaypewpew]

I’m talking out of my ass But I don’t think it makes a huge difference, if your car overheats because you put spotties on your have a way bigger problem somewhere In theory I suppose you’re right though But kind of like the theory of a snorkel on your 4by IMO

[@isaaclandau5751]

Thoughts on Amber lights?

[@WhiteCavendish]

Another great vid! Off road lights are coming up on my list of mods sometime soon, so this vid was super useful. Cheers, mate!

[@horacesawyer2487]

3:11 sounds like the rumble of a daysill. Quite costly I'm sure. Must be noice.

[@kisah.nadzwan]

hai, can you share me type and model of your antenna. thank you Ronny

[@overlandsally]

yellow (ambar) light helps allot in dusty or poor visibility situation and there is a mod that the car audio guy do: 0 or 00 gauge wire for the ground and positive of the alternator. this make the alternator put all its capacity in idle.

[@Russianmafia10]

The alternator isn't limited by the resistance. It's limited by the low rpm. The energy it makes is proportional to the rpm

[@geoffspence4997]

Hey has anyone seen a video of tips for people four wheel driving or off reading with injuries or disabilities?

[@rynoopperman5010]

Simpilar solution… 😜 Don’t drive at night, its not necessary Ronnie… you just like playing with your lights So much better driving during the day

[@RBFR01]

I put a 42 inch lightbar on my commodore ;)

[@markstevens7190]

Where's Wayne Gone?

[@Agent.K.]

He’s doing his Batman duties.

[@MrJules2U]

Ahhh...the day I can re-enter WA is the day I head off for WA. #stuckinvic

[@JasonISF]

I use and recommend STEDI 4wd lighting. Brilliant high quality lights for the money.

[@screw1987]

Shameless plug!

[@jarradblair1793]

Good morning from meekatharra

[@mlevis05]

And to you dusters out there, just think of your buddy’s poor air filter lol good advice to stay back and keep the lights down in that tho, good tip for people who haven’t off-roared in caravans much

[@rockanw5091]

Have you ever encountered paranormal activities during camping Roni..

[@derekmathieson5233]

Another great video Ronny, quick question…. How do you get power to your roof bar? Do you drill holes in the bodywork?

[@suhermantjahyadi7361]

Depends on the car type, basicly, we could line the wire from the water channel on our roof, from the back door from the car

[@ricbarker4829]

@@suhermantjahyadi7361 When I ran a big light bar on my FJ cruiser, I ran the wire up through the snorkel. The small amount or wire going from the snorkel to the light bar was so small, you didn't notice it.

[@SUPERTRUCKER166]

There is such a thing as too much light, especially on the highway because when you swap back to low beam the light difference means your eyes take longer to adjust, combined with light reflection from signage bouncing back into your face.

[@davidcameron5634]

Spot lights on your bullbar should be cross-eyed, just a small amount . This will give e you a better spread and a more intense centre. Jmho.

[@adriand3753]

Check out: Subaru OFFROAD Australian Sand

[@ncradock2007]

I'll keep my fyrlyt's

[@goverat]

With dust, i found fog lights with no spotlights work well

[@officialWWM]

Are roof mounted lights even legal? Pretty sure led headlights are illegal in most states and I know light bars mounted on top of bull bars are illegal 🤔

[@nordic5490]

Yes, all states except WA

[@Smokeyr67]

​@@nordic5490 They're legal in QLD as long as they're no further out than your headlights, there's no height restriction. Also, if you use black covers on them they're no longer considered lights so you can mount them and just not use them on the road.

[@timberray9572]

Improve your night vision by dimming your dash lights, simple trick almost no one knows.

[@melnickharris1177]

U have a bull bar but u have the light behind the grill 🤔

[@ignacioentrocasso8171]

I am the one that is always stating. Make sure the light does NOT touch the windscreen nor the bonnet/hood. Just put a viser underneeth the lights. It makes all the difference. Talk to an oftalmologhist. Your welcome

[@coreydark8795]

With cheap lights I run a Kings number plate light on my small car it's better than the standard lights and worth every cent. It doesn't the job and couldn't justify spending the extra $$$ for a number plate light bar unless I was buying a brand new 4wd. If I get the cheap temporary tow car I'll be throwing one on it too as it's better than nothing and can't justify spending $$$ on a $2-3k 4wd tow car which is for the 1300kg ski boat.

[@coreydark8795]

@Anna 20 y.o - check my vidéó works fine for what I need it for which is mostly urban areas. New ute when it arrives next year will be getting Lightforce lights like Ronnie it some decent brand haven't made up mind yet.

[@lastknownlocation8760]

You lose more light from having the lights behind your grill than you do from having a few insects on them. Even at higher engine RPM your alternator will still probably not keep up with the amount of current the lights will draw if you have that many. Wattage divided by voltage equals amperage, so it’s easy to work out whether your alternator is up to it or not

[@Ronny_Dahl]

My alternator is upgraded for this reason, the lights behind the grill are just filling the mid gap the roof does most of the work.

[@Corey-pd3mi]

Ronny teased now leaving us hanging with the Prado build 😡

[@Ronny_Dahl]

working on that right now... a lot of production into it :D

[@kumarkunasa3314]

horn mate.. when you around the bend

[@Auxbeam]

👍

[@damienfrizzell9394]

Why you not touch on amber lights like Harry has?

[@shreckm6470]

Just chuck 2 Narva Ultima's on ditch the rest. Big distance lights are bloody useless if you want to combat fatigue 400 metres of good even light is the go.

[@lindonjo]

In Qld at least, not allowed to mount light on top of bullbar, and maximum 4 lights can be added.

[@Dazza-u4c]

Same as WA and every other state in Australia. ADR13/00

[@chir0pter]

Why can't you mount lights on bullbar. Lol

[@lindonjo]

From narva Web page...... The Queensland Government states that lights “must not be fitted to the top of a bull bar above the forward bonnet line, or protruding forward of the bumper bar or bull bar in a way which would adversely change the profile of the impact zone”

[@lindonjo]

And yes police have booked people

[@chir0pter]

@@---hq2ix Curious, do people get away with non-approved bullbars? because they don't make them for many models, so you're out of luck if you have a less popular 4x4 or battlecar..

[@TheMultisportGeek]

This also really helps to find parking stalls in the mall… Just saying.

[@jeffforty5663]

I’m getting amber lights