Off The Record: When Women Tell Men to "Man Up"

[@Max25670]

"I'm not going to applaud that. That's just rude." - Nick 😂

[@GomezMG209]

Damn just finished last video and thought “ I wanna see what she was gonna say!” And here we are lol y’all are killin it

[@Jjjjjjjjjjjjjjddc]

Like nick would say “forrreaaaal”

[@Troywitthecoi]

Best comment ever lmk quick and fast thanks jk fam

[@BangtanTrash44]

Same

[@BrianJasonPreciado]

JKNEWS gets better by the day

[@SpAzZzZz_]

Day 336

[@Troywitthecoi]

It’s like the Japanese knife that gets sharper the more you use it😂😂😂

[@Cr1m1nalspeed_1]

You’re welcome (I take all the credit and get no benefit except better content to watch) 😂

[@RedDenim]

Kalyne telling this story to a room full of established chads makes that dude look even worse lmfao

[@gerardwebb1945]

chads, dimpled chads, shads.

[@nobody-n9s]

Joe seems to be the only one to actually take care of women financially! The others probably do it for a year and then want to do 50/50

[@MP-kj6wk]

None of them are Chads lol.

[@sakurahollow]

@@MP-kj6wkguess we found the guy’s burner lmfao

[@TheGyanr]

​@@MP-kj6wk this is the dude 😮

[@kjracz15]

I've never been in this kind of situation. I always straight up say "I'm broke." or "Let's split it." before we even get started. Worked like a charm. 🤣🤣

[@jhc577]

yeah, i think nowadays most ppl are understanding if youre just upfront

[@menohero_menovillian]

Sounds like a good plan. If the girl is not willing to ride with you and pay for her half of the meal, she's most likely not going to ride with you in bigger real life situations as well. great way to gage what you're getting yourself into

[@AD-nc2li]

If you invite a girl out or anyone out Gotta make it clear you are splitting the bill beforehand If you can only pay for yourself Anything less, you just playing mental gymnastics

[@Garysmithersson]

😂😂😂 asking a girl out then asking her to pay herself is an easy way to not get a second date

[@monicad7222]

Why are you inviting a girl out if you're looking to split the bill

[@M_Barr84]

Then simply don’t invite anyone out, if you want to eat out then go ahead

[@taoist32]

It’s not a date if you’re saying to split the bill.

[@Keng34TV]

Kalyne, you need to tell more stories, please! Its refreshing to have new stories be told and honestly very funny how the guys play off of the story.

[@justanopinion3588]

when the guy texted her back Kalyne shoulda said " You've activated my trap card!!" lololool

[@HH_Julius]

"Unspoken expectations lead to future resentments"

[@SleepingSoldier]

I don't call women outta their names, and I don't accept it either. That's where you start.

[@sullythedoc]

Don’t date when you’re financially stressed

[@MP-kj6wk]

People are slefish and desperate.

[@bl4ckkn1g8t5]

Not a lot of women will be dating then

[@leomessirules19]

​@@MP-kj6wkthe world won't last then if no one's dating

[@leomessirules19]

So most the world?

[@PloopPlab]

You can still date just be straight up and honest with your situation

[@in10sken]

My woman and I has this routine where every weekend whenever we would go out, I would cover the Saturday and she would cover the Sunday and even on Sunday she would secretly hand me the money so it would look like that I'm paying for it. But as time goes by and how we got good opportunities on both of our jobs we started not giving a fuck about what others think if people sees her paying for our dinner, because right now im spending mostly double on what we would usually spend if Its her schedule to pay for that day. I guess at first it felt somehow emasculating and she understand how that feels, but now that we both know to each other who pays more or spends more on our dates, we ended up somehow grew out of that insecurity mindset whenever we go out. But yeah always pay for your partners dinner whether if its your friend or just someone who accompany you. Its just a common courtesy.

[@hueyyang10]

My homeboys all know that we pay for our own shit. But if anyone is willing to pay for the meal no one will complain and we just got each other next time. Because when we were all young and broke, we all treated each other when we could. So no one has no hard feelings and no one is keeping count.

[@kiarademoner]

Subin’s hell no was on point 😂

[@otakunodojo7461]

Oh Hell Noooooo woaah - Su bin 🤣

[@UrbanLegend2k11]

Bruh a month in?!? How broke is you G 🤣🤣🤣 smh.

[@_Maxten]

I had an argument with a ladyfriend who loves “princess treatment” (her words) in a financial and “focus on me only” way. i said that was unrealistic if u just started dating. She said, no its not bc she wants to test their loyalty and ability to provide. Idk. I dont think anyones wrong, its just a needs vs wants thing. Its not a skill issue on anybody’s part. Its just canon in terms of compatibility. i dont think men need to be like that but i also think shes entitled to want what she wants

[@bethnichols2875]

You should ask her how that type of attitude worked out for the woman that went viral for saying she was too good for the Cheesecake Factory.

[@HolyGh0stWryder]

​@@bethnichols2875 who?

[@VladClaw]

Hey as long as she is transparent about this to her partner, and he himself is agreeing to it too its all good

[@HolyGh0stWryder]

​@@bethnichols2875whats that ladys name?

[@Baronnax]

There are dudes who do want that kind of a relationship, where they are the providers and the partner fills the traditional "wife" role. If both parties are willing there shouldn't be a problem. P.S. The "too good for Cheesecake Factory" woman wasn't real, it was a skit performed by actors.

[@darreldupit]

I really hope this gets on a Reddit AITA and then it gets covered on a new video lol

[@starry_sky111]

I just think he wasn’t into you. He liked having you there to help him. But that’s it. He didn’t invest time into planning anything, or wanted to pay for things. It shows when a man is interested.

[@aydenmcfly1362]

Nick with that finisher 🤣

[@Zhcwu]

Asian culture if you don't pay the bill, you are not the alpha, this has been engrained in me, friends, family, dates. I always win, pre negotiate with big tip for waiters to come to me with the bill or go to restroom and pay for bill. This has really backfired on me before, been called misogynistic, and trying to buy affection... But it is how I was raised.

[@MP-kj6wk]

In Scandinavia the norm is to split the bill or take turns paying.

[@jefegarcia921]

That dude was a BUM!!! In my Kendrick voice 😂

[@SpAzZzZz_]

The payment needs to happen the the very start, we do it with EVERYTHING else.

[@jojojojoseph]

The moment you start counting, thats when you start fkng things up 🤷

[@tiffanyn8890]

kaylyne needs to run from that man

[@kshinokevin]

this one time one of my parents (my mom) was poor, that she had to ask her sister (my aunty) for $20, to put gas money, in her car.. Very sad; financial literacy is an important thing. Both my aunty and my mom loved to clip coupons, in the Sunday newspaper (with the ads); they had Safeway membership cards. My mom had both the Marukai (kinda like 99 Ranch Market, Seafood City Supermarket, or H-Mart); Costco & Sam's Club memberships: Sam's Club / Walmart membership is much cheaper than Costco.

[@shirtdirt1874]

Idk sounds like that dude just wanted to see someone else and wanted to break without saying "hey I want some other poon, so peace."

[@nobody-n9s]

Yeah he doesn’t sound like he took her seriously and liked her enough to step up! And then just stayed longer for convenience:(

[@JustBoogieProduction]

If I invite the homie we both paying separate. Either he’s down to go or broke to not go. People need to just pay their own shit and stop crying about it. I will never have anyone pay for my meal

[@stimihendrix3404]

you aren't fucking your homie

[@Baronnax]

That's true for me too, luckily all my friends also feel this way. If we were to live by Joe's philosophy nobody would eat out with friends at all, lmao.

[@joeyleung23]

For real, unless they offered to pay, maybe we are celebrating they got a promotion or something, I'm paying for myself.

[@GomezMG209]

Yea I think unless I say from the jump “yo bro you wanna go get lunch, I got you”.. then for sure but most of the time if I say “yall wanna go get sushi” it’s just throwing out the idea and if you got money let’s go lol it’s for sure different.

[@austinrodriguez2481]

The last video was a great way to start this one lol

[@bethnichols2875]

Sometimes it is necessary. And usually by that time the frustration level is so high your tone reflects it.

[@applepieclub5012]

Kalyne is 100% in the right here. I appreciate that she opened up and shared such a personal story. Based on her personality and philosophies of dating, she seems to be a good person. Also, I always wonder, how do men like this even get dates?

[@rosanna5975]

We need a Part 2

[@joelester9541]

This definitely feels like a hidden game of split the room 😅

[@TheTinyOrc]

Nicks closure😂

[@oceanbreeze1110]

Should have a routine episode of what’s going on in Kalyne’s life.

[@nobody-n9s]

It sounds like kalyne dated someone that worked under her or for her which that already gives this dynamic of her having to take the lead! And that won’t change when dating . Hopefully he doesn’t watch this and tries to come for her bc they analyze the guy and don’t even know him! Can had him figured out the best though. Pretentious fake loser. Still no one questions Kalyne at all..It takes two sides of the story.

[@Tangsters]

Joes mindset on this matter is definitely why I’ve been a fan of JK all these years. No “weak little bitches” here. Just real men and women! Sube… another real g

[@punisher1145]

im curious to hear how it actually would be brought up when its relevant and also wanna know barts perspective on this cause i think hes gone through a certain phase where geo was helping with the finances

[@SpAzZzZz_]

He either watches fresh and fit or he got use to promising things in his last relationship because she probably didn’t press him for the money it might have been the gesture the last girl wanted.

[@taoist32]

Or, he’s a narcissist and attempting to gaslight her. It didn’t work and it backfired on him.

[@SpAzZzZz_]

@@taoist32 that’s the fresh and fit option exactly what they “teach”

[@edvm4953]

I think the breakdown in communication was the difference in morals. Although she said she could get passed/ talk about those previous transgressions it seems very apparent that she had already decided that he was not worth perusing as a long term partner. Hopefully she finds someone with similar morals.

[@genecuisine7]

Hell yeah. Way to go Kalyne!

[@CorruptPolitician]

Great episode!

[@Thaivega206]

Kalyne needs to banish this guy to the shadow realm. But totally agree with "why are you inviting someone out if you're broke"

[@shogunshogun]

Keeping a tally in a relationship can change the motivation from love to legalistic works. Love is supposed to sacrifice for the sake of the beloved (both the man and the woman).

[@wonderer1867]

she did all that just because the guy didn't want to fill her gas lmaoo!!!

[@happyrunner10]

What about when you want to sell something, friend shows interest and then asks you to give them the “the friendship discount“ …

[@JonathanAlexanderM]

That part around 7:04 is 100% facts, me personally I’m not even thinking about girls like that right now because my life is anything but stable in plenty of regards and I wouldn’t be able to have the type of dynamic I would want I have when it comes to madames ☠️ give it time 🙏🏼

[@FangsOfKomodo]

she said they knew each other prior to dating, so sounds like the guy shot his shot too early without fully being able to support a relationship. so like everyone else said, the guy has no brains for planning ahead. its not like you can't date, she even said she gave him job opportunities, but he still fumbled. he's just not cut out for her and that lifestyle she probably lives.

[@jimmyvongmusic]

I cringed so hard I had to lower the volume haha

[@Castillo19-i3p]

My guy for lunch should of gone to cosco to save up money 💰 then spend more money for dinner

[@maximustitan8171]

Living in California, I don't blame him. LOL

[@n1r1d15]

Ryan should have been there for this one

[@jamescamille84]

If you can't be vulnerable with the woman you love.. when can you be vulnerable.. Every day I step out the house, i got act like a man and be tough.. When I get home I just want to be with my woman and let my guard down. Nothing wrong being broke, but you need communicate that with your partner and you need to start making changes in way to change your financial phase. We been up in the bills and we all been down.. You need a partner that can be like dam you down.. ok babe I got you.. Help them back on their feet.

[@tommywagemann9512]

I can never tell if kalyne is bouta start crying or not😂

[@janayalove134]

I haven’t seen one video in the past two months where Joe hasn’t talked about Peaky Blinders 😭😭

[@Nae343]

I didn't know Deon Cole was like this

[@bbssuunn8877]

Happy Sunday

[@AmanGillNow]

awesome convo

[@Ray25hua]

The real question is why did Kalyne decide to date such a loser in the first place???

[@moongoon8873]

sometimes people show there true colors after a while and aren’t genuine from the start

[@nobody-n9s]

No you’re right! But if she’s taking control , taking care of the guy that’s stating the tone of the relationship

[@bl4ckkn1g8t5]

Because not many people want to date an entitled gold digger

[@Sergote12]

I thought Kalyne was married, didn't know she was single.

[@IvyLegion]

I had an ex that was a bum, homesless and everything. But he kept a whole story around that made our whole friend group believe he was one of the most financially stable people there. He wouldn’t reveal his job and that he was actually homeless for two months into our relationship. Always avoided or had an excuse why we couldn’t go to his place and always planning only free stuff. I even filled his gas and paid his bills 😂😅 it was tougher breaking up cuz of sharing a friend group

[@ezamona]

he's not us lmaooooo slay

[@radyiswatching]

Damn harsh words from a real place. Totally deserved, no need to placate words with him since he initiated the whole thing.

[@mags7432]

My ex husband was like the dude Kaylen was with, and my current husband is like Subin.

[@TheTinyOrc]

This guy reminds of the girls Ive dated. They framed it in a way that made me think they’re treating me got to the place I had to pay.

[@jraguinaldo3893]

Kalyne should share more stories

[@CamberRockerCamber]

Duuuude. This story cannot be real. 😂 No way there's a guy that clueless.

[@KasheYan15]

More topics on Kalyne's perspective and experiences plz

[@blackcatgoodluck]

I totally believe in whoever asks pays. I hold this standard for everyone. That's how my best friend and i have been handling things for years works great.

[@justanopinion3588]

Didn’t yall say in the last episode there are 2 sides to every story?? 😅😂 love jknews!!

[@UrbanLegend2k11]

Hell yeah we need the dude to come in and do part 2

[@MiKEJaY]

@@UrbanLegend2k11 Nah

[@Gagateer]

😂😂😂​@@MiKEJaY

[@Jayydubss]

She back on the market boys! Not that we have a shot lol

[@MP-kj6wk]

Yeah, not interested.

[@bl4ckkn1g8t5]

She will be there for a long time

[@oaktree1626]

Nah

[@SankyGamerUHD00]

You gotta work on that confidence bruh. Don't sell yourself short.. who knows you might actually go out with you if you're really into her

[@90beastmaster]

People also just lack common courtesy and common sense.

[@taefithendo]

Get a new credit card is so real😭😭

[@jimmymoua]

People barely have social IQ and etiquette. A relationship is a step-up/next level from that so not surprise when they stumble on their own feet when it comes to relationships Also this is kinda wholesome. Its like Khalyne is confiding in her older brothers for advice/reassurance.

[@Omzbuilds]

Tbh I don’t know there’s dynamic or how they play together as a couple but so many relationships today are mad disrespectful. Kalyne dudes sounds wack asf. But I just don’t think any couple dating should be name calling or being disrespectful in any way.

[@HasanPikerIsADouche]

What does that phrase even mean anyomore? With gender roles being challenged (mainly by feminist), does "man up" really hold any weight? Take Kaylene's example, being more traditional myself, the response is obvious, but if we're thinking what men have been raised hearing nowadays, it isn't that cut and dry anymore

[@Vincisomething]

It has nothing to do with gender roles, at least I'm this context. The guy was being a weak little btch

[@Vincisomething]

It has nothing to do with gender roles in this context. The guy was being being a weak 😺 🐶regardless of gender.

[@markstriker925]

Feminists still like to use gender roles when it is convenient. Especially when it comes to men

[@keith75monty84]

Everyone here is stuck in 1950. Calling him names is childish but none of the simps here will call her out.

[@kitleongii4688]

That's fine Kalyne at oeast you already know what kind of a person he is earlier in the relationship. Bounce

[@HolyGh0stWryder]

From a sociological perspective this video and comment section are quite intriguing. Sociology, good for sleep or headaches, never both

[@this.jc1]

That dude don’t deserve Kalyne

[@TheBoxingNinja]

So if the genders were reversed would this be okay? Because I feel like this is a double standard for you guys. In all of my relationships and friendships I would say either we both pay equal at the end of the month (some dates I pay for, some dates she pays for, sometimes we pay for our own stuff) or she pays a little more often than me or versa. But I'm not going to pay for everything every time, it should equal out at the end of the month or so.

[@creed5]

who is Kalyne dating? mr krabs and his penny-pincher ways?

[@movingforward9555]

When you are young you fight with the boyfriend. Basically both young people are learning along the way. When you are old, you have options, even amusing ones. E.g. I would think what would Joe do? Yes! pay for dinner, even dessert. Then at the end tell him that you have been called by the Army reserved or some shit, but that otherwise you would keep going out with him, bc he is the best boyfriend and lover you have ever had. Make him think that he is excellent boyfriend material and let the next girl deal with his cheap ass and no common sense 🧠. 😂

[@leomessirules19]

Oh steve what a twisted mindset joe is the real one realistically

[@bhogal88]

oooo Joe did you have a haircut? Noiceeeee

[@stevebermil7619]

Where can i buy Joe’s hat??? Pleaseeeeee

[@Nohandle0000]

I guess this theory that men and women should treated equal only sounds good when it works in their favor.

[@TheTinyOrc]

Queenlyne!!!!!!

[@jayh6135]

It sounds crazy but there’s actually dudes out there who want love so badly they become obsessed with it, I had friends like this. I agree with most of them, I would be way too embarrassed to be leaning on the woman I’m seeing for everything, I am not saying women can’t provide or be the care takers but as a man with pride it would look weak not only for myself but everyone else

[@TubeDeviant]

I see Subin wearing a Noveske hat.. You know what that means..!?!? We need an update on Joe's/Bart's/Subin's collection.. =)

[@al200604]

Kalyne, that bum tricked you. You deserve better!

[@mohammedkarim454]

Honestly the problem is even after a month of talking dating in the 20s is super hit or miss because Kalyn has patience but no one genuinely wants a relationship and will talk to another person because of dating apps without putting in the work

[@Cr1m1nalspeed_1]

This is why you don’t lead with your wallet boys 🤷‍♂️

[@TheTinyOrc]

I like it when I’m acting like a B and she’s snaps and says man the fuck up. I think that’s hot. But it’s needs to be in the right situation. He sounds like the youngest child

[@MP-kj6wk]

Depends on the tone and intention. If the intention is to help and motivate him then it's welcomed.

[@jdot88]

Misandry - Let’s laugh and encourage! Misogyny - “Gasp!” We can’t do that! Don’t tell men to man up, when if a man said the equivalent to a woman he’d be chastised for it. If you have a problem, you can say it without demeaning a gender. Double standards are just the norm now. Where’s the “equality” sought after when you bring the other side down to bring your side up…

[@pervysage4934]

I have a question and I think this is pretty crucial, how good looking was the guy?

[@DopeyySaeSae]

Tffff, I’m in the same boat, girlllllllll😂 men these daysssss 🤦‍♀️

[@kimmie5475]

Joe got a hair cut!

[@MackieMess3r]

Is Kalyne's boy black? Most of my black friends brag that they get their girls to pay for everything. But that's the girls decision to stay and get played that way.

[@Pupusa_power_]

I loveeee Su bin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Otaku_06]

By the way what’s up with users profile pics ? 🧐 Joe Rogan: don’t read comments

[@bethnichols2875]

If you mean the ones with the booty pics those are bots.

[@kurniafanny1]

Men asking women for money is unattractive. Period.

[@YouCanCallMeBobot]

This is a meaningful episode. If you're broke either pick a cheap restaurant, eat home cook meals or don't date at all. Or find ways to pay for the date. Real men would do anything to make it work. Or just be honest with the woman.