WESTCOT: Disneyland's CANCELLED Theme Park

[@FleshGolem420]

It's really weird as a former cast member seeing where they were planning on putting things. Because when I was there, there was some pretty important infrastructure stuff back there.

[@sorceress1986]

Whenever Dalin gets mad about the PeopleMover...I feel that deeply in my heart.

[@thebluetarp]

I have the best memories of the Disneyland people mover. My brother and I would sneak cigarettes and drink our smuggled California coolers. Galaxy’s edge needed a people mover style ride soooooooooo bad!

[@franklinhabit]

Your ad breaks alone are more entertaining than about twenty Disney/theme park channels I can think of.

[@JohnMatthewVO]

I've had the thought that Dallin would be great to host a kids TV show....

[@mikeNgary]

This is the only channel I look forward to the ad breaks.

[@mayelasanchez5258]

@@JohnMatthewVO qq1

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

Dallin and Disney Dan. Although I miss the jingle Dan used to sing for his Magic Candle Company ads - it was so fun! But yeah, Dallin is probably the only KZbinr whose ad breaks I don't actually mind. Caddy/Caddicarus is a close second, but I can't stand the services or "games" he shills for. (If I never heard another fucking ad for Factor/Hello Fresh, World of Tanks, Audible, Genshin Impact, Honey, Established Titles, or RAID: Shadow Legends, I would die happy.)

[@TalpaTulpa]

White KZbinrs that sound like many other white KZbinrs make up for their physical sameness by being funny, they have no choice, the ones that don’t all starve to death in the unforgiving algorithm.

[@toast_exe106]

I always go through the eastern gateway and i feel like the water guy should be a part of disney lore at this point

[@cripplious]

When I was a small kid I lived on west st in Anaheim. Our trailer park was right against the back wall of DIsneyland. Got to meet the kid who rode petes dragon in the Main St Elec Parade.

[@C._Bradford]

Absolute greatest break of all time. I literally reached for my phone to skip it but it was so entertaining I just watched. Guess that's the point, but in either case, A+ AD.

[@YoctoYotta]

That ad was next level. I'd watch a 30 minute version of that.

[@KennFast]

Dallin, I am thrilled to report that in 13 days I am going to WDW for the first time and I made sure to reserve tickets for Behind The Seeds in Living. I cannot wait. I hope I make you proud.

[@ginadoyle4089]

Have a magical trip! Cast members are amazing.

[@kitchensinkchronicles3272]

i hate how difficult it is to expand in Anaheim because there’s an actual city there. so did Walt, hence how Disney World was built, but i really would love for them to expand more at Disneyland, the only problem is that the businesses and residents already there don’t deserve to have their livelihoods taken away. if only we could go back in time to tell Walt to get some more orange groves. if only.

[@lutherheggs451]

Walt didn't even know if Disneyland was going to be successful...He didn't buy massive swaths of land in CA because only an idiot would over purchase land based on an idea, that the person had no clue if it was going to even be in operation for a year...They can't expand now because NOBODY in Anaheim wants new Disney anything, they fought to keep Disney from opening a parking garage. They've never been fond of the park, they've never been fond of the noise.... People always have this weird idea that if a company wants to do something or buy something they just do it......When in reality it doesn't work like that, land owners have to want to sell you their land, business owners have to want to sell you their business..The only businesses that get bought out are the ones in financial trouble and on the line of going out of business....

[@rickpontificates3406]

They tried, but the red tape could not be overcome

[@spacemanx9595]

@@lutherheggs451 the only people who complain are Karen's who now sit on 2.6 million dollar homes and live a mile away from Disneyland. They could have sold for a massive profit already. They get no sympathy

[@rattyeely]

They still have room to build something like Disneyquest in Downtown Disney. I truly believe they could build an amazing experience in a small amount of space if they just applied themselves instead of doing the lazy thing

[@lonelysatoshi2482]

Yeah, honestly that could be great considering Disneyland could now have space for lands like Edison and Liberty Street right next to Main Street, expanding the already established lands as well as potentially adding new ones like Discoveryland or hell, you can move Cars Land and Hollywood Land from California Adventure into Disneyland so the second park can finally use it's space to become Wescott, when it comes to Avengers Campus I think you can still keep it in a corner of the Park cause y'know "The Earth's Mightiest Heroes", but unfortunately as you say by this point in time it's already to late since Anaheim is a already established city and tourist area

[@howtubeable]

Eminent domain. It seems Disney Corp was counting on eminent domain to seize the property in Anaheim surrounding Disneyland. The City of Anaheim could legally seize the property, evict the residents and pay homeowners and business owners absolutely nothing. The Supreme Court has ruled that seizing private property is perfectly legal if the government declares that it is for the greater good. Apparently, the City of Anaheim was unwilling to do this.

[@MattMcIrvin]

There's so much stuff in the blue-sky concepts that it's hard to imagine fitting it all into the limited space available. I suppose the reality would have been some subset of this.

[@brandonpiazza6210]

The Rivers Of Time was Built and exists Today!!! All Disney would have to do is reopen it at Animal Kingdom!!! The exact attraction you described existed in the opening years of Animal Kingdom and was a great albeit lazy, slow, and Hot river attraction!! There were scenes including Beastly Kingdom scattered about and it was a Beautiful way to see the Park from a different view!!! Haven’t been to DAK in a while but you used to be able to see the stand-by docs along the water! I never understood why they removed it, but i always guessed it required too much staffing. The same concept is still available to ride in Japan at Tokyo Disney Sea! Great video! Enjoyed it very much!

[@rattyeely]

Finally, more details about Westcot! This is probably the most in-depth Westcot video on KZbin rn. This makes me even more sad it was never built, imagine having Horizons, Journey Thru InterSpace, and Journey Into Imagination all up and running in California today :')

[@JeremyBechtold]

Thanks for playing the soundtrack to soaring over California in the background. Soaring over California is still the better one.

[@hbshined]

i love how much you love living with the land. it really is a stellar ride.

[@MB-nv4to]

I remembered riding it as a little kid but no one else did. I finally rode it again in 2019❤

[@JackieWohlenhaus]

That was one of the best ads I’ve ever seen on KZbin.

[@sparklegemrose]

The video is fantastic, thank you Dallin! I love all the detail, so educational. I was especially entertained by the ad though, I'm so here for the multiversal Dallin hi-jinks. This is the first ad I've watched with glee and attention is a long long time.

[@tvforeverus]

A forty minute mini doc on all things Westcot? It’s like Christmas came early this weekend!

[@pleaseunderstand6669]

a FOURTY MINUTE video about Westcot? Lunch is about to be epic. Calling it now the DCA half of the Disneyland forward expansion could (or rather Should) end up being Westcot

[@RideTheTeacups]

Okay, I’ve watched the whole thing now. Honestly, I’m glad we got the DCA 1.0 that we got. Hear me out. Clearly, Westcott would have been superior in every way. But in the other hand, there’s just WAY too much takes from Epcot. And Westcott (or is it WestCOT?) is a terrible name. Honestly. They would have gone out of their way to remind us this is a copy of something else instead of something truly new. I’m also just not a huge fan of Epcot (sorry). So from my perspective, getting DCA 1.0 gave Disney the ability to upgrade it under Iger to something I really enjoy now! Westcott would not have been fun for me. Great video. I always really appreciate your incredible attention to detail!

[@tim.kaiser_aka_timmaay]

I agree. While DCA 1.0 wasn't great, it gave a lot more opportunity to evolve and improve than WestCOT would have. DCA now days is still evolving and is unique and fun.

[@ginadoyle4089]

EPCOT WAS ONCE a great experience. Westcot would probably have suffered the same demise. DCA was probably better

[@alextirrellRI]

These days, a view of Disney from outside the park is probably a desirable thing. It's usually nice to have a 'view' of landmarks when living in a city.

[@bjvincent8786]

To be honest as much as I enjoy California Adventure, seeing this video of WESTCOT makes me realize that Disneyland Resort could have been so much more. In addition, I remember reading that DisneySea was allegedly meant for Long Beach before going to Tokyo. Just so many Disney missed opportunities.

[@TheOnlyBongo]

The worst part about a US-bound DisneySea, aside from redeveloping an underutilized/underdeveloped area of Long Beach that has long since been undesirable due to its proximity to industry, which would mostly be negated thanks to Disney's knack of using themed berms) would be the funds they'd inject into stabilizing and restoring the Queen Mary as a hotel, shopping, and dining district of DisneySea. It really needs a ton of repairs to keep the ship together, even if it hasn't been out to sea in forever it still sits in a pool of water and is bombarded with salty sea air constantly. The interiors outside of visitor's views are decrepit because it honestly takes Disney levels of money to repair/maintain such a ship of that scale (Which is why many ocean liners have understandably been scrapped due to the ongoing costs of maintaining even a near-land locked ship). The Queen Mary would have made for an amazing themed hotel and resort alongside a shopping, dining, and entertainment district in addition to DisneySea as a park. But alas, we do not get that. Disneyland Resort is squeezed by guests because there are only two small parks to service everyone, and the Queen Mary continues to rust and degrade badly from lack of funds.

[@RideTheTeacups]

I can’t stop laughing at your less-than-subtle reminders of what the Disney company used to believe in. 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@lutherheggs451]

I can't stop laughing at the weird delusions that Disney was ever some homey, we care company LMFAO....Its even dumber the people who LMFAO actually believe the "Uncle Walt' persona LMFAO.......LMFAO the company who has employees that live in cars LMFAO, the company who was ran by a racist who hated jews, treated his animators like garbage, literally got people blacklisted as communists during the McCarthy era because they were competition.......Walt Disney would LOVE the way Disney is currently ran. 🤣🤣🤣

[@RideTheTeacups]

Oh my goodness - I’ve seen the (thankfully deleted) replies to this comment. I didn’t intend anything offensive; just that the funny parts of your video were funny.

[@Donyourmom]

I can’t be the only one that thinks it’s moronic for Disney to build a land based off of characters from a studio that’s no longer in operation?

[@slowazzd2165]

​@@RideTheTeacupsmaybe don't make sweeping generalizations then lol

[@jgatzby7798]

Biggest disappointment of the Disney Decade was not realizing Westcot. Going from the promise of Westcot to the reality of California Adventure was like being told you were getting a new Porsche only to get a barely drivable Geo Metro

[@VegasFlyboy]

I have been to Tivoli while stationed in Europe and it’s a beautiful park I would highly recommend people visit if they ever have the opportunity. 🙂

[@fartsmcgee8700]

I would love to have seen WestCOT become real, but am more interested in the changes and things around it than the actual cloned stuff of EPCOT. WestCOT would have likely been updated to include IPs now with their recent pushes. DCA, even 2.0 and the new Pixar Pier changes, pale in my mind to what could have been (though the grass is always greener). Think how much content could have spawned from comparing WestCOT/EPCOT rides to one another though LOL!

[@michaelsullivan3581]

Masterful report detective Dallin! Even more astounding is your PC comercial... brilliant, genius, acting!

[@amylempkowski9887]

i’m so glad you shouted out the water guy

[@maisler1]

These are my favorite kind of videos. It reminds me of og offhand

[@roastedrootstew]

"Offhand Disneyland" Viewers should earn a veteran's discount ;o)

[@EditorVJAS]

While even if Disneyland Forward is fully developed and made real, WestCOT was too ambitious then and less of a potential draw now. But I would love a Hong Kong/EPCOT mash-up to be included in any Anaheim expansion. Imagine a Mystic Point/Mystic Manor rethemed from the half HM, half SEA, to an adventure with Figment.

[@ricln5464]

Here in Rome we are finally going to get a second gate in our theme park after 10+ years. In a similar way to Westcot, there was another plan for a second gate in 2016, but in this case the new project is better then the old one.

[@OakForestBoys]

Great vid. Was waiting for a good Westcot episode

[@humanities-english]

Well, well, well. Here we go again. I saw a display of Westcot back in the day, and it was glorious. I hope they carry this out in the new parks underway.

[@JasonRBeing]

Even today with everything happening to it, EPCOT is my favorite Disney park...but if WestCOT would most likely have replaced it as my favorite.

[@frew8222]

HUGE shout out to the guy who sells waters on the corner

[@genevieve7955]

Hey Dallin, great video as always! However, I just wanna give a heads up that the volume level of the audio in the video is pretty low compared to some of your other videos. My bf and I love watching your vids out loud but for this one we had to turn our speakers way way higher than we do watching pretty much anything else. Still, great job!

[@jasongraham3873]

I love how Dallin’s Caribbean Pirate Jean Lafitte was kicking back a can of tropical-flavored coconut pineapple Bubly ;)

[@NicEeEe843]

40 minutes westcot video? Yes pls

[@kitchensinkchronicles3272]

it should’ve been you Westcot. IT SHOULD’VE BEEN YOU!

[@Redstomp]

Denmark calling! I love that our very own Georg Carstensen and my 'home park' Tivoli Gardens got a shout out here.

[@joshuatoro8977]

One of the best videos ever I think this one is maybe my most favorite video you've ever done

[@eeehhh982]

Asking for greenery and water features in Southern California? Dallin's going off the rails here

[@jdragon754]

YAY NEW OFFHAND VIDEO

[@tufab3494]

"Epcot certainly needs some south american countries" As a brazilian it makes me very happy to hear this! I find it crazy how we aren't depicted at Epcot except for Zé Carioca and the Brazil Wine Booth

[@empoeverafter]

Timekeeper started off in Disneyland Paris and was filmed throughout Europe so that’s why it would make sense to feature in the European area. Loved that show!

[@WhtAbtBob10]

It's actually hilarious to see Michael Eisner saying that he wanted to respect French culture while referring to Euro Disney. That line did not age well. Lol

[@jalapeno1119]

In actually very glad Westcot didn't happen. I like when the parks are unique at different locations.

[@TheHaloRed]

The "Spacestation Earth" that would have been larger than Spaceship Earth would have been cool though. along with the proposed "boat ride around the world."

[@jetsons101]

If only Walt bought more of the 1950's orange groves.... We can only wish.....

[@kevinwilt3918]

Another tie in to Westcot is the purchase of the California Angels and the Mighty Ducks hockey team and how that never panned out.

[@jamesl1130]

Visually, Westcot is far superior. It would require more attractions than what was proposed for opening.

[@travisziegler5011]

I came for the video on Westcot, but I stayed for the riveting tales of the Council of Dalens

[@Dantetheinferno]

The "BACK THEN" & "ALL THEIR MONEY" lines killed me ahahaha

[@danielcarroll8889]

I’m so invested in the ad break story now

[@tikiviktor]

The “eastern gateway“, don’t you really mean the Original Disneyland Entrance???

[@TheStreetFoolosopherMr187]

Yes

[@thebluetarp]

I buy waters from that guy every time I pass him. Hey a dollar for cold water?!? Best price on harbor

[@kyusshead]

Great channel, keep it up!

[@statistical-cats-sophia]

Why is this in Nick DiRamio's Shane Dawson playlist shdkdjdj

[@ampersand2001]

Take a sip every time you hear PEOPLE MOVER

[@JohnMatthewVO]

I like the idea of some landscaping in the esplanade but realistically they need to keep it pretty empty to accommodate the crowds. The entry lines for DL and DCA sometimes get so long they nearly meet in the middle. Its also really easy to lose your party when it's even moderately crowded. So, yeaaahhh. Anyone know where to get a donut at DCA?

[@NecrofilmLTD]

Maybe they could revitalize the idea of a Westcot where the Toy Story lot is. It might be smaller, but hey they could put in the Spire.

[@himynameiscorey]

Look up Disneyland forward

[@DavidVitrano]

With a possible third theme park coming to Disneyland, I think Westcot should be one of its lands.

[@Nojintt]

That 300 ft WESTCOT ball is super ambitious and awesome.

[@laramiejon]

Hey Dallen What about writing a book about the history and plans for Westcot? Think that would an incredible and fulfilling project for you !

[@maddercat]

You might love water features, but you know California Nevada and Arizona are in a drought of epic proportions the last 10 years. IMO they should pave over the boardwalk and lake there and build new attractions, it's a giant waste of space for something costing Californians precious resources. Go to the effing beach 10 miles away if you want to go the boardwalk.

[@BrendanJSmith]

I mean can we really call it a failure if it never got the chance to exist in the first place?

[@shainmcgraham3459]

Thank you for Jean Lafitte it is appreciated :)

[@ChrisandToryTVandYoshiitoo]

This is off topic but the blue skies idea of adding coco behind big thunder is not so smart in my opinion. Instead they should add the western river expedition in that plot of land.

[@brandonhart1232]

Great video! Too bad we did not get Westcot. I have always loved the idea of this expansion.

[@ForlornDrifter]

Best ad break ever

[@meowzerzzz]

Greenery may not be practical or environmentally friendly for California. It rains soooo much in Florida so green is fine but from what I understand this isn't the case for Aneheim.

[@lilmommysalami]

Dallin’s relationship with the P*ople M*vers is my favorite genre of comedy

[@THEREALGSTARK]

It was really sad to hear the cancelation of WestCot because the concept art and idea was so good. I think it would have been more of a success than the opening of California Adventure and tbh if Disney really wanted to build and invest in this new theme park they would first solved the finaster disaster with what was happening with the international parks first and then when continue the WestCot project rather than building California Adventure.

[@sixregrets]

It's a little weird that Park Candy is running ads when it's taking them six months to ship orders..

[@TankCop]

This is what should have had next to Disneyland not DCA.

[@StoogesFan]

New pavilion idea I think would be good additions to EPCOT: a Southeast Asia pavilion with countries like Philippines/Malaysia/Indonesia etc

[@PK-Radio]

I can see why westcot was cancelled Cuz the concept art for that new super spaceship earth looks like way too much even for disney

[@McMarioG]

Reality is never as good as the concept art 😞

[@M.A-productions]

Rip westcot😢

[@KevinThurman]

I am a fan of keeping each resort unique from the other. Yes, I shutter at Florida getting Tron. Copying the entire EPCOT to California would have been too narrow-minded.

[@tikiviktor]

Those didn’t look like rockets, I’m saying they are castle towers. Because one of them has a flag on it.

[@879SCSP]

Funnily enough, knowing about the plans, I see DCA 2.0 slowly fitting bits of that WestCot vibes with a bit more of an IP flair

[@toribradford151]

This is great. I would have loved Westcot. Disney could build it in Utah. That would be awesome

[@maddercat]

oh shit the spire is the monitor from the movie tomorrowland, also the 1939 worlds fair.

[@briarrose8154]

I want Disney sea & Queen Mary 😭

[@himynameiscorey]

Westcot wouldn’t have been a bad idea if they did entirely original countries separate from Epcot. Thinking about Spain, Brazil, Australia, India. Spain would have a smaller version of the Basilica, Brazil would have a hill with the iconic statue overlooking the pavilion, Australia a mini sydney opera house on a waterfront, India a mini version of the Taj Mahal. Spain would have a museum and shops inside of the “basilica”, Brazil a splash mountain type ride built inside its hill that concludes with hitting a “surf wave” at the beach, Australia a concert theater in its Sydney Opera House that has special live performances, and an Outback Jungle Cruise style but with a jeep trek ride, a similar ride engine to Indiana Jones, then in India a dark ride that takes you through Buddhist culture and the history of India. Foods include a Tapas and Wine restaurant in Spain, Acai bowls and a steakhouse in Brazil, seafood restaurant in Australia, and an Indian cuisine restaurant in India

[@himynameiscorey]

While these are all original attractions with their countries, you know you’ll have to throw an ip in there, so they should add Colombia as well, with their main draw being a giant Encanto house. The Encanto house is big enough to hold a ride that takes you through most of the rooms in the house, holds a restaurant inspired by the mother’s cooking, and an interactive talk to animals for children in the little brothers room

[@kevinisthebest7839]

You should do a video on California adventure’s forgotten icon. Modern DCA icon is the Mickey fun wheel it used to be grizzly Peak .

[@johnmchugh8049]

WATER FEATURES ! I hope you were old enough to get to visit the fountain show at the Disneyland hotel bank in the day - it was awesome and free if you were waiting on your annual pass renewal - my pass always lapsed by a month or two because I was broke so I hung out at the hotel in the 90s😂

[@codenameu.arctos3747]

WestCot would have been cool...but at this point I want the 3rd gate to be the Villian's park Tragic Kingdom.

[@BIGTIMBERFILMS]

Awesome video. Space Station Earth would have been amazing.

[@MrWoahna]

10:06 Is that a Florida Man beer from Cigar City Brewing?

[@LucidPhoton]

I wanted this so much ;-;. I like CA but man this seems so much more interesting. I've been to Epcot once when I went to Orlando a few years ago and it was definitely interesting :3. I'd like to go again without going to Orlando tho. ;P this would've been a nice alternative perhaps. So sad.

[@lonesoul663]

So many original ideas that went down the toilet unlike the predictable IP of today.

[@robertjones1729]

I loved the idea of Westcot when it was announced but took it with a grain of salt. As for DCA i still do not see the ticket prices being the same as Disneyland these days because well,,it ain't Disneyland! The esplanade is facinating..someome must have said.."hey we are running out of money so let's pay for it by..'let people be a part of the Disney magic' and let them buy bricks with their names on them all across the esplanade." I thought it was kinda cleaver but as you say the missing thing was GREEN..not money but PLANTS>>TREES...anything alive and growing! Now with Bugs land gone we get.....more concrete in Advengers Campus...oh hooray...that area of the park, though popular is just to hot to be in for very long with the abcents of and @#$%^&* shade! Anyway...doen with my rant now... Thank you Dalin for your always fun look at things

[@giantpshow]

Westcot would have made the feeling of being at Epcot less special. I like that we got DCA, because the special factor of Epcot would have just gone down.

[@laangles2002]

I heard a rumor that Disney was looking to build WESTCOT in Long Beach and Los Alamitos.

[@ageandtreachery]

East gate also has the advantage of the banished smokers.......

[@rayray9571]

Disney went broke building Disneyland but 10 years later he had enough money to build Disney world cash

[@mupty]

Given what became of Epcot, it was probably for the best that Westcot never built. It would have suffered all the same problems of now if not worse since the park wouldn't have a lot of corporate synergy. I am also not a fan of Disneyland Forward being a hodge-podge of squeezed in clone attractions.

[@TheAsheTalketh]

I love the inclusion of Tivoli in this video cause Disneyland really wouldn't be the same without it. It's one of the most magical places Ive been besides Disneyland and I'd say WDW and DLP are below it even.

[@johnmchugh8049]

Thank for the discount code btw

[@JustinCoasters]

34:00 THANKS Tim Delaney