OFFICER’S REWORK: Is it good???

[@etonymous1632]

Now that I think about it I think I was a bit too generous. He’s still in D tier, a couple of places higher maybe but still D tier Update: I was wrong. The skin that I mentioned in the video is not a redesign. So now I’m wondering why the portrait looks the way it does. Ah well I still like it

[@andrewgarcia6550]

Hey can you help me with the new Knights Assemble event pls I will also help you inreturn I hope you can see this comment and help me thank you 🙏

[@etonymous1632]

@ sure

[@Meatfruit]

I disagree with a lot of the points you made in this vid, except the ones about the 3rd skill. For the 1st skill, I think it does the opposite of what you said and it gets much better later on. I was doing over 30 damage per shot on the final level. Most of the time, it will do enough damage to at least finish off the enemies with your weapon, so it is a good skill for room clearing. For the 2nd skill, the change they made was huge. Its ability to target multiple enemies makes it super good a room clearing. The bullet homing feature is much better than you think it is. It allows you to hit enemies not in your line of sight, and it makes multi shot guns much better. This skill is not meant to fix aiming, it's meant to fix bullets missing, which weapons like shotguns or staffs have. While I do agree with you that this skill is weapon dependent, it still does great with most weapons, and there is still a very broad range of weapons that make this skill op. I also agree with you that obstacles make this skill worse, but the homing bullets can let you hit enemies you wouldn't be able to hit. Overall, I think at the bare minimum it's high C-tier. I agree that his skills don't give any defense, but that's not enough to make this character bad. There are lots of characters in the game with little to no defense with their skills, but are still good.

[@etonymous1632]

@@Meatfruit see that’s the problem. Little to no defense with their SKILLS. Those good characters who have no defense in their skills still have some form of defense that helps them. Knight has the blue shield buff despite having skills that provides no defense, aka one of the best defensive buffs in the game. Literally no other character doesn’t have a skill that provide some form of defense. Even ELEMENT ENVOY, the worst character in the entire game, has his pillars that can provide a LITTLE cover, even if it sucks. Officer has NONE. LITERALLY NONE. Defense is by far a much more useful tool to use, especially for badass mode. Having good offense doesn’t matter nearly as much, because if you run into a room with enemies that shoot a billion bullets, you’re never gonna be able to kill them fast enough (volcano biome for example). As for the second skill, yes, the homing bullets are helpful and even I had to admit that the small change they did really helped it. But still, there is no reason to have bullet tracking in a game that’s already auto aim, unless you’re using very specific and powerful weapons which are not even close to guaranteed in a run. They’re actually pretty rare. And once again, it doesn’t provide any defense. It doesn’t matter how fast you can clear a room, you are not gonna survive it of enemies are throwing bullet hell at you. And finally for the first skill, 30 damage per shot is very good, but it’s not nearly enough for it to take up the skill slot, when most weapons can do the literal same thing if not better. You are literally sacrificing one of the major components of a character for something that you already have. And once again, no defense. It doesn’t matter how much damage you can do, if the enemies kill you first, there is no point. The rework should have seen these issues and fixed them, and it didn’t fix anything. Don’t get me wrong, I think officer is a fun character and I still like him, but in terms of viability he’s just not good. And the rework barely did anything

[@Meatfruit]

​@@etonymous1632 In my opinion, I think the lack of defensive abilities isn't enough to make the officer a bad character. If you're ever in a pinch and can't dodge the bullets, you can always have a melee weapon to break them, so I prefer offensive abilities more. For the 2nd skill, the homing bullets are super useful for weapons that shoot multiple bullets, and there are a lot of weapons that shoot multiple bullets. You don't need a strong weapon to make this skill OP. For example, if you're using something like the Staff of Frost, barely any of the projectiles hit unless you are very close to the enemy, but if you use the skill, it almost guarantees every projectile hits. The built in auto-aim doesn't let you do this. For the 1st skill, I think the damage is worth taking up a skill slot for. Most weapons are definitely not able to do the damage this skill does. If you can get the skill to at least 20 damage per shot, it will deal 160 damage for a fully loaded skill, which is every 6 seconds without VS mode. It's enough to 1-shot 6 enemies in normal mode. The Devotee of Peace also has a high crit chance, so it will likely do much more damage. The problem with the officer's skills wasn't that it didn't offer any defense. The 1st skill was outclassed by a lot of weapons, the 2nd skill was bad for room clearing, the 3rd skill could barely hit enemies. The rework fixed all of that.

[@etonymous1632]

@@Meatfruitwe are all entitled to our opinions, but officer’s main problems in most peoples eyes were his lack of any defense, which puts him behind literally every other character, and his ass passive. The rework fixed none of these, and the experience is almost the same. If you were to play something like badass mode, defense will save you much more than offense. Once again, you’re using staff of frost in your argument? Which is pretty rare and by no means guaranteed. A skill that provides buffs as inconsistent as this is not a good skill

[@Meatfruit]

@@etonymous1632 I don't think defense is as good as you're saying it is. If it's that important, why are characters like Berserker considered better than Officer when he has worse defense than him? Or Element Envoy, who you stated can at least use his pillars for cover, is considered worse than Officer? I used the staff of frost in my argument because it was just a random multi shot weapon I could think of. You can use more common weapons like the shotgun, shaky blaster, assault shotgun, staff of nature, ect. to make use of the skill. Even non multi shot weapons are still pretty good with it. You are almost guaranteed a good weapon with this skill during a game.

[@etonymous1632]

@ “Berserker has worse defense than officer”. His third skill literally gives you I-Frames and you can literally stay invincible forever if you time it right. If that’s not defense in your book than idk what is. Envoy is worse than officer because the positives that officer has outweigh the defense that envoy has, despite envoy having some and he doesn’t. And yes, you can use some common weapons with officer too. But the ones you mentioned (except staff of nature) are too slow to work well or don’t shoot enough bullets. And even then they are still not guaranteed. A good skill needs to provide versatility to a character at ALL TIMES, not just in certain situations. And on the topic of defense, it is absolutely better than offense in badass mode. Yes, offense is important, but once again, it doesn’t matter how much damage you do if the enemies in the room kill you first. You will never out damage late game enemies unless there’s like 4 of them in the room. I want this “argument” to end already. Let’s just say that we are entitled to our own opinions. But objectively speaking, officer is still not very good.

[@SunbrokenHunter]

If Officer can get reworked, then they can do the same thing for Robot. I'm PRAYING, man...

[@etonymous1632]

@@SunbrokenHunter lol same. And hopefully if they do his is better

[@S4NT1N0-Bv]

They have to buff druid 3rd. PLS MAN

[@etonymous1632]

@ I agree. His best skill is the only one that isn’t buffed. That being his third

[@vedrounsipek7369]

Officer is like a side character

[@vedrounsipek7369]

Even tho they really made me angry with their "buy 4 chests to upgrade fully 1 mythic weapon" and It costs over 48k I really appreciate that they have really cheap things and not p2w

[@etonymous1632]

@@vedrounsipek7369 yeah the free stuff they dropped for the update is really appreciated

[@Nightriderart906]

Aaaa yes as piccolo once said...."DODGE!" But still even tho officer just got a simple eeny teeny tiny change which is his skills and the fact you want bro to be TANKY as hell cause you are always relying on defense like bro had you heard about decrease monster projectile speed and larger pickup radius upgrade???? But overall if you wanted to have a tank character then your a man who main paladin

[@etonymous1632]

@@Nightriderart906 no one said anything about me wanting him to be a tanky character, I just want him to have SOME kind of defense when he has NONE. Also, I’d like to see you try dodging the bullets from the undersea biome when there are a billion enemies in the room. What are you left with? Nothing.

[@hr_here]

I just tried his quick fire skill and I can confirm he's actually busted in regular level mode,the fact he can pierce through enemies constantly while dealing so much damage with crits is insane

[@etonymous1632]

@@hr_here ranking is for badass mode. Of course you’re shredding everything in normal. Literally anything can

[@hr_here]

@etonymous1632 my bad I meant regular mode as of just level mode,it is in badass mode

[@etonymous1632]

@ okay. In that case he’s still bad. Where’s the defense? Oh wait he has none. His damage isn’t even that good in later levels

[@hr_here]

@etonymous1632 fair but he still clears rooms so much faster than before

[@etonymous1632]

@ agreed, but I just can’t put him THAT much higher, because it’s still not very good. He’s definitely higher but only by a couple of spots.

[@ZHANGCHENXIHCI]

Officer is really good in anything but normal mode

[@etonymous1632]

@@ZHANGCHENXIHCI no he’s not. He’s good for boss rush mode maybe because the second skill but that’s it.

[@ZHANGCHENXIHCI]

@ no I swear my officer one shots everything with max skill charge and >100 kill stacks in origin and Infinite mode

[@etonymous1632]

@ this list is for normal badass mode. Origin and infinite mode are different, and even then there are better characters for both.

[@lilprynce1778]

They made simple changes that made him good

[@etonymous1632]

@@lilprynce1778 they made simple changes that fixed almost nothing and improved him so little that it barely matters

[@lilprynce1778]

@etonymous1632 second skill is way better than what it was I'm not saying is anywhere near top 10 characters in fact it still sucks and yeah it has no defense to me it's at least better than the arcane knight that mf sucks

[@etonymous1632]

@ well, I mean arcane knight is an S tier character because of his second skill so… yeah. But okay I see what you mean. I agree it’s a massive improvement but officer is still bad

[@khansey2044]

I don't think the forst skill changes were little, but they certainly made it good

[@etonymous1632]

@ nope. It didn’t. It still sucks

[@raptizstephen]

Mentor buff and priest and taoist rework please

[@etonymous1632]

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[@ArcaneknightSK]

I think hes at the same level, maybe even worse. Another reason why Arcane Knight is the best character in Soul Knight

[@etonymous1632]

@@ArcaneknightSK I find it hard to say he’s worse but he is not that much better. Still basically the same level. Arcane knight isn’t the best character imo (Paladin takes the cake) but he definitely is an S tier character. His rework fixed his awful defense and made it broken as hell, which I kinda wish they did here. I don’t want every character to be S tier, but they needed to give officer some kind of defense, because he still has none

[@ArcaneknightSK]

@etonymous1632 disgusting comment. Get out of my face.

[@sabmellody]

hes good in the new update [for me] last time i played before the update was eh now its more fun for me ngl [also he looks hot in the portrait idc] also isnt most characters in game dont have that much defense?

[@etonymous1632]

@sabmellody yeah, I will agree that he’s more fun, but he’s still not good. As for the defense statement, yes most characters aren’t all about defense, but they have SOME that keeps them safe. For example, Knight may be an offense character but he has the really good blue shield buff as some kind of defense. Costume prince’s first skill, while not his best and is offense focused, is still a meat shield that provides defense. Every ELEMENT ENVOY has a tiny bit of defense in the form of hiding behind his pillars (even if it sucks ass). Officer has NONE. ZERO. NADA. He has NOTHING to protect himself.

[@vedrounsipek7369]

My point is peoples are mad because characters are having abilities that they have to have cus they have roles and their role is telling them what abilities they have to have Like Officer, Legendary Heroes, And more

[@etonymous1632]

If you want to speak your opinion please speak it as one comment. Do not fill up my comment section. Thanks. Also no, people are not saying these characters are bad because of their “role” or whatever dribble you’re spewing out, it’s because they’re bad characters. I don’t even understand what you’re trying to say right now

[@NerfFerix]

It's funny how the only way the officer is useful is with his second skill and some shotgun, like with the evolved knight's fist, the first skill is the same thing with a extra mechanics for rooms and not for bosses, The third skill, well...at least it's better than the first one xD

[@etonymous1632]

@@NerfFerix lol. His third skill is his best skill but the second one does have uses unlike the first

[@NerfFerix]

@etonymous1632 I haven't played with the officer for quite some time now, I need to give the third skill a chance again, I thought it was fun but I always felt that his second skill was much better, Also, who doesn't love having all the money to spend with the merchant?

[@etonymous1632]

@ lol. I personally think the third skill is better because it’s not weapon dependent and does good damage on its own but you do you

[@javierlambis2039]

Horrid take in terms of the gun spin rework, i dont consider myself a particularly great player but that skill by itself can carry you until the end with little issue, ive done a couple runs and it arguably peforms better in badass where the skill damage can snowball alot more due to there being more enemies. While i'm not sure about the other two skills i can surely say gun spin got an insane (very needed) glowup.

[@etonymous1632]

@@javierlambis2039 why would you even use gun spin? It’s the worst skill in the game and it his third is better. It can easily do way more damage in a much larger area, and you don’t need to stop using your current weapon while doing so. Why do you insist on doing mediocre to okay damage at the cost of your skill? It sucks. If you like it that’s fine, but I have the same right to say that it sucks, because it does. If you think Officer’s damage is good, you need to start using other characters because you’re far off from what’s actually good.

[@javierlambis2039]

This has to be ragebait... Maybe I'm falling for a nefarious scheme of sorts..😰

[@nonuseful-q2h]

just ignore the bounty tag + nature staff combo, im gate keeping it (it shreds)

[@etonymous1632]

@@nonuseful-q2h can’t argue with that, though it doesn’t boost the character for me. Weapon dependency is never a good thing in my book

[@blaBla-wz8xt]

Its an skill who made every weapon powerful, shotguns, shurikens, staffs, and even some weapons like eletric shurikens. And now you can mark more than an enemy so you basically never misses​@@etonymous1632

[@JayTheSleepyArtist]

Honestly, I'm just surprised they didn't give Officer a new passive

[@etonymous1632]

@@JayTheSleepyArtist same here. That honestly would’ve improved him way more than these changes if his passive helped with defense

[@Create-V]

Id say they just add another thing in the 2nd skill of officer like -2 defense like on the necro

[@etonymous1632]

@Create-V that would be nice but it still doesn’t fix the problems that the skill has

[@khansey2044]

I disagree with a lot of things you said The first skill rework is aweasome. Made it into a really good room clearing skill. The buff granted when you fill that duel bar or watherver it's the name makes it even better. The fact that this skill now has scaling damage fixed the problem of falling off in late game and made the late game even better. The second skill does not fix the problem of aim, it makes less bullets miss. Like shotguns and staffs shoot a lot of projectiles, but only a few of them hit the same target while the other projectiles hit different targets or miss completely. It transforms staffs and shotguns from weapons you use from up close to deal more damage and far away to hit more enemies into weapons that you use from any range to obbliterate a single target with increased crit chance. The rework made it useful in normal rooms because before you cound use the effect every once ina while, but now there is aways one ennemy marked. If there is none, you just use the skill and now you don't have to press the skill button again until next wave of enemies. The third skill I agree how good it is, just not shire it's the best skill The buff officer receives is still useless for him (except for a slight buff in the first skill). The biggest problem you see with officer is defense, but this character is not about defense. This character was made exclusively for offense. Defense doesn't fit his theme. Also, not every character has to have defensive tools to be good, like the knight: all 3 skills offer only weapon enhancements, purely attack oriented, but the character is still strong. Same goes for the alchemist (coreect me if I'm wrong). Also,.the defense problem can easily be solved by equipping a meelee weapon.

[@etonymous1632]

@@khansey2044 I really don’t feel like explaining this all over again since I’ve done it so many times with other people. To make it basic, defense is more important than offense because enemies will kill you first and officer’s offense is still not good enough to sacrifice the skill slot for. And I don’t know why I need to keep saying this but “theming” is not an excuse for making a character bad. You want theming for the officer? Give him something like a trusted buddy horse mount or something like that. Maybe a riot shield. There. Defense. He has none because he just doesn’t have any. You are of course allowed to disagree with me all you want, but any competent player can see that absolutely no defense (literally, like absolutely none) is a problem in a game that throws bullet hell at you

[@vedrounsipek7369]

We need to expect that there will always be characters with common things like Officer have bounty hunter abilities because he is made to be Bounty hunter, tell me, how would u change him that he would be good and would be like Bounty hunter

[@etonymous1632]

Simple: give him a better starter, a better passive, and give him some defensive abilities. Theming is not an excuse to make a character bad. If it’s bad, it’s bad. If the theming doesn’t enable a character to be good, no matter what you try to do with it, then the theming should not exist

[@zasda]

He is a bounty hunter A BOUNTY HUNTER! You need skills in order play him! Like if you cant dodge then stop playing him. Playing as the officer is more like a challenge than playing to win. If you want to clear stage easily and you have dont have enough brain cells to manage many things at once then go with assasin or other easy to play character.

[@etonymous1632]

@ once again, this is not an excuse to justify him. He’s a bad character. Deal with it.

[@vedrounsipek7369]

Not every character in every game have to be op, you should learn that buddy. Btw you can buy Engineer machine ability and Paladin to win in badas mode.

[@etonymous1632]

@@vedrounsipek7369 no one said anything about every character needing to be OP, because that’s just boring, officer is just bad, and the rework fixed basically nothing. It’s disappointing

[@zasda]

​@@etonymous1632 how about you getting better

[@GengUpinIpin]

Who here kinda dislike his splash art too? Aint he supposed to have like...either a cloak or a knight helmet there and not full visible blond hair?

[@etonymous1632]

@@GengUpinIpin they’re potentially releasing a skin or some redesign for him that matches that art. I stated it in the video. Personally I like it

[@GengUpinIpin]

@etonymous1632 ye, me am watched you're video'd. And personally, i respect your personal opinion

[@vedrounsipek7369]

There's a million of peoples that hate things just because they are bad (things) not understanding that there will always be bad things in this world like Thick of It I think they are being paid to hate It but It's only my opinion

[@etonymous1632]

You seriously believe people are being paid to hate things in a tiny game like Soul Knight? Grow up will you? As for the grand scheme of things, there is nothing wrong with hating things. If they’re bad, you can hate them. Ofc, there are always gonna bad things in the world, but there are always gonna be haters because they’re bad. About 95% of the time it is their own opinion and they are not getting paid, because why the hell would anyone pay them for it? I don’t know why I need to explain what seems like common sense

[@fabioteixeira1848]

How do you use this character as a pet?

[@GrimmjowJaegerjacquez06]

That's not a pet. It's a Bodyguard

[@fabioteixeira1848]

@GrimmjowJaegerjacquez06 I understand, but where can I get it?

[@GrimmjowJaegerjacquez06]

@fabioteixeira1848 You can only get Bodyguards on the event Three Kingdom Gunfight. I don't think you'll be able to get it unless the Season Mode brings it back

[@etonymous1632]

@@fabioteixeira1848 you can’t get this bodyguard anymore unfortunately

[@programacaogamer9626]

Tem um bug com ele no modo infinito não da pra pegar o buff do mentor de habilidade porq6ele desaparece após o andar passar e a 1 skill dele tá muito forte se você limpar todas as salas ata o nível 40 de dificuldade no modo infinito com o colar q da 5% de dano de arma ele vai causar um dano tão alto q a maioria dos Bosses não suportam 2 sequências de 6 balas

[@etonymous1632]

@@programacaogamer9626 ok

[@hollowknightbr8844]

Esse cara simplesmente n sabe usar o oficial, essa primeira habilidade dele ta realmente roubada, eu discordo totalmente dele sobre ela ser a pior skill do jogo atualmente, e se ele ta preocupado com a passiva do modo de batalha contra bosses, vc pode simplesmente ativar ela na última sala antes do boss e correr pra sala do boss e ja atirar com ela pra evitar da passiva acabar, e o aumento de dano como é infinito, fica um absurdo no late game, e sobre a segunda habilidade ela nunca se tratou de corrigir um problema do jogo de falta de mira, mas sim de te possibilitar atacar alvos em locais q vc n pode e melhorar a eficiência de armas com tiros muito espalhados, claro q ele continua sendo um personagem com bastante problemas em relação a falta de defesa, mas com essas mudanças em todas as skills dele, ele ta muito melhor do q era antes e n sinto q ele precise tanto assim de alguma coisa de defesa(na primeira habilidade) se ele tem tanto poder de fogo pra matar os inimigos antes deles atacarem

[@etonymous1632]

@ ok

[@programacaogamer9626]

@@hollowknightbr8844 cara a 2 dele na verdade tá bem mais forte porque antes eu usava um bug com a habilidade de rebater balas e a 2 dele q faziam as balas atravessar as paredes e me fazia poder bater de um lugar seguro só me revelando pra marcar outro inimigo agora com isso da pra eu matar todo mundo rapidamente