OFFICIAL Update! - Microsoft Flight Simulator

[@Hoekstes]

Those 5 points make me really excited for FSXI !

[@normand5847]

Why would you be excited for Flight Simulator 10? They're making a new Microsoft Flight Simulator.

[@Aviakeen1]

@@normand5847 He said FS11. :)

[@billymkirkwood4956]

@@normand5847 FSXI, yes he did say 11😁😎

[@_S.H_]

@@billymkirkwood4956 I don't think it will be called FSXI, they just called it Flight Simulator so I have a feeling it will be an ongoing thing continuously updated, like Windows 10.

[@billymkirkwood4956]

@@_S.H_ oh my god!!! That was my actual point... the original was called Microsoft Flight Simulator.. they have done a full circle from 1980's original version... button theory it's still MFS XII. That's what the guy was saying also

[@sksupply]

If they could design it to use all cores in our processors that would be great. That is the biggest draw back of current sims, although X Plane seems to do better with core usage. Fsx steam has one core running at 100% while the others are running about 20% Any comments on this?

[@Doofer911]

I suspect it will be programmed to take full advantage of modern hardware.

[@FlightX101]

@@Doofer911They better xD X plane does a decent job but for me is only uses about 30% max of each of my 6 cores. If optimized to about 75% it could be a game changer

[@Doofer911]

@spaceweed10 Stop winding people up

[@JamieKugelmann]

Seems to be not a problem- I have an i9-7920X (12 core, 24 thread) and I use P3dv4, it takes advantage of every single thread and utilises around 50-90% CPU

[@sksupply]

@@JamieKugelmann I hear you. I have P3SV4 with ORBX etc too and it does better than fsx. I have a i5 9600K and it runs very cool but with no hyperthreading I think this may be one of my problems. All flight sims are too processor dependant.

[@raymondgoubet]

So far so good, as these 5 points are ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL .

[@harleyblue999]

Still using there last and still enjoyed,looking forward to what can be done with lets face it those that gave us the concept of flying.

[@Doofer911]

I'm hopeful that this will be more like FSX and less like MS Flight. We'll have to wait and see but this recent announcement seems to suggest that Microsoft want to make a good product.

[@johnnypenso9574]

My only concern here is going to be price. I can't see them doing the entire world and selling it for regular new release pricing of $49-79. I can see the piecing it out and it being outrageously expensive to have the entire world or even just a continent.

[@edkammerman2533]

Two things concern me, 1 backwards compatibility with third-party aircraft and airports that already exists 2 and one of the most important ones decent ATC.

[@edkammerman2533]

@spaceweed10 Third party aircraft that already exist. I don't have several hundred dollars to buy new aircraft, airports, scenery, weather programs etc. Do you?

[@erwinau3807]

@@edkammerman2533 if it's a whole new engine then backwards compatibility is almost a guaranteed No! We will be starting from scratch again!

[@Philxtreme]

It will be different enough to require new purchases as the fidelity will definitely have advanced (FSX released over ten years ago), though companies like Aerosoft and PMDG may offer upgrade deals if you already own their products for FSX/P3D/XPlane.

[@worldwide8553]

@@edkammerman2533 Sometimes sacrifice is required to move things forward. The good news is all the stuff you have at the moment won't suddenly stop working.

[@Doofer911]

I have a feeling that this new simulator will not be compatible with existing products, certainly not right away. It will be interesting to see if any of the existing products could be converted or ported into this new sim.

[@NatEff3ct]

I don’t think people realize the hoops that they are going to have to jump through to play this on Xbox if Microsoft is being truthful and this is a proper high end flight simulator

[@Doofer911]

Going to be a very interesting exercise in optimisation for Microsoft!

[@billymkirkwood4956]

It's a positive next step so I'm still rather excited about this future sim, my only worry is also the cross platform issue!! It will be interesting to see the recommended PC hardware for this simulation??

[@Doofer911]

I guess we'll find out in future updates what the hardware requirements are likely to be. All we really know is that it will be 4K compatible by the looks of the trailer.

[@Philxtreme]

My personal theory: 1. It will be a Microsoft Store Exclusive 2. It will be subscription based (free with gamepass possible but not forever) 3. Microsoft is working with 3rd party Devs like PMDG and Aerosoft to add scenery and aircraft but all DLC will be available exclusively through Microsoft's store. 4. Old P3D and FSX add-ons will not work with the new sim, it is all new code and will require legacy add ons to be totally rebuilt, to the extent that they will be new products entirely. 5. The user interface will be much more like Microsoft Flight, than FSX or P3D, as it will need to work easily with gamepads for Xbox users and casual PC gamers.

[@NatEff3ct]

I don’t think this is gonna work with a Gamepad, I think you will be required to buy an Xbox keyboard and mouse and possibly the console flight stick that this is compatible with

[@Philxtreme]

@@NatEff3ct Certainly in order to carry out most onboard functions. I think Microsoft will give users the option of automating most onboard aircraft features (specifically for users who have no knowledge of aircraft systems). Things like flaps and gear would deploy based on speed and lights would automate based on conditions. This would make the software more accessible to the average person which I personally think will be their aim with this version. We'll have to wait and see I guess, very exciting though!

[@Forgetthehorrorhere1]

Great video mate and good news.

[@Doofer911]

Cheers, yeah things are looking promising!

[@brent4770]

I hope it will look good in VR

[@mesillahills]

I have little to no confidence in what they might do. Their last effort, "Micosoft Flight" was a complete disaster which they quickly recognized and abandoned. And you might remember virtually everyone knew it would be. Then all the others have poured millions of dollars and tens of thousands of hours into FS improvements. What do they possibly think they can add to this community at this point. I just don't see any sense to this move. When I worked, when we screwed up we totally destroyed all the evidence (literally cut up and scrapped) because we knew some idiot would resurrect the disaster once again if we didn't. MS might want to take a lesson from that. The only thing they could possibly do is totally start over with VR in mind. Now that would have some value.

[@Doofer911]

I would guess that Microsoft are looking to raise the baseline quality of a simulator platform with the release of MSFS.

[@rd410pb]

MS should be worried convincing people like myself, who abandoned them along time ago for X-Plane, to move back to them. Let's face it, flight sim is a money pit with all the 3rd party addons (X-Plane included).They will have to exceed a very high bar to get me to switch.

[@Doofer911]

Definitely, from what I can tell, X-Plane following seems to have grown a lot with the release of XP11. Really made the sim much more user friendly and accessible to simmers compared to the older versions which were more for the hardcore simmer.

[@HeartlandTuber]

I just want to know if I will be able to install and play the complete game on my PC, without having to be connected to the Microsoft cloud. For me, that is an absolute deal breaker. I refuse to be dependent on the cloud. I want to be able to play and use my software even if I am totally disconnected from the Internet. Local disc storage is incredibly cheap. My latest PC has an Intel M.2 boot SSD, but the data drive, where I install games, is 3 TB WD Black drive, and the backup drive is 4 TB. Cost of disc storage is trivial now.

[@tubeloobs]

U have a 2 petabyte hard drive?

[@Doofer911]

I don't know I'm afraid. We'll have to wait and see what Microsoft say.

[@Philxtreme]

Not only this, streaming the data needed to draw 4K quality scenery from the cloud would require a pretty decent amount of bandwidth, which would shrink the pool of customers that could properly enjoy the product as intended. Lots of people in rural areas still have slow broadband services.

[@WayneHermanproject]

Yep, probably gonna be a subscription; addressing that one reply I got. countryflyboy over there was almost clueless, and I indicated that on the channel. Microsoft doesn't care about anyone or anyone's criticism or concern's if they just want to play. They see a new market opening up, and they want to seize it. PD3 sales are increasing; X-Plane sales are decreasing. As I said, It will have the LOOK AND FEAL OF PD3. Period. It's the only thing that makes sense and makes money for Microsoft - making it possible for them to 'spy on us' even easier.

[@Philxtreme]

Interesting perspective, P3D is built as a training platform and for use by people that know what they're doing. The fact that this will be released on Xbox as well practically guarantees this will be nothing like P3D. This will be much more accessible, simple UI, lots of built in assistance to minimise the challenge of flying (which can be turned off in the settings if you're an experienced pilot). Think Microsoft Flight, the last product they made which sadly failed but was usable with a gamepad and accessible to people who have never flown a digital aircraft before. You're 100% right about subscription based access, it makes sense for them as they can rollout new regions and new airports and new cities and new aircraft to make people feel like they're getting value for money. Just my opinion and mean no disrespect. Peace

[@WayneHermanproject]

@@Philxtreme See, philxtreme, I made a bold statement about "PD3" in making my claim. I don't know anything about the SIM; now I do. My system requirements probit its installation; primarily: CPU, GPU and a bit slow DDR3 RAM. X-Plane trial wouldn't even start up on the AMD 4 Core 2 thread FM+3 4100 3.6 GHz. GPU DDR3 500 MHz. DDR3 P. S. Trump: 11:00 EDT Sunday - Threatens Iran with the 'Nuclear Option' as Passenger airline companies forbid and divert traffic over Iranian airspace. India, China, and Russia responded by sending in the warships.

[@WayneHermanproject]

@@Philxtreme I'm seriously considering getting the XBox, don't know a thing about it though to replace the aging Desktop. The build I have in mind cost about $600 without the GPU. Just so FSX - will run at 30fps without all the choppiness when City Addons are installed. Chicago at NIGHT will crash FSX when I get about 6 miles from downtown Chicago. But the addon was a steal at $15.00 USD

[@Philxtreme]

@@WayneHermanproject I had the same trouble with FSX, the issue it has that means even 12 years after release is that it still won't run smoothly on PC's that are now much more powerful than they were back then. This is because it was only designed to use one CPU core and can't even use more than 4GB of RAM. As a result, if you run a weather add-on, an aircraft add-on and a scenery add-on like Chicago all at once the software can hardly take it even on a $2000 PC. Hopefully the new flight sim will be able to use up to 12 or more CPU cores and at least 32GB of RAM supported so we can load up plenty of scenery and weather and still enjoy a playable frame rate. As for the Xbox, I'd suggest waiting a year, as it's possible the new flight simulator will release on the NEXT Xbox, not the Xbox one that is currently available, possibly as a launch title.

[@WayneHermanproject]

@@Philxtreme That's why, philxtreme, the "Out of Memory" crap in some detailed areas - WOAH. Thanks' for the heads up. You just saved me probably, a thousand bucks; I'll by an 8 core AMD to replace my 4 core FM3+ now on eBay for about $40 USD and falling on Amazon.

[@dotnetdevni]

An xbox is a pc basically lol u can even turn on developer mode and deploy apps from the pc.

[@Kreemerz]

Xbox is hardly a PC. You can't modify the software on a Xbox platform like you can with PC.

[@dotnetdevni]

Kreemerz it’s. pc it uses the exact same type of hardware yes u can’t upgrade but that is not what makes a pc a pc it’s still a pc mate and runs windows 10 as of current builds. Just easier for them to build games for specific hardware

[@dotnetdevni]

spaceweed10 Am not an idiot considering ur name weed i would hate to think what u smoke

[@milo4008]

doofer, you going to Cosford this year?

[@Doofer911]

I don't know I'm afraid, it's a long way for me to travel

[@WayneM1961]

Someone else has mentioned steam and yes, FSX for steam on the old system was meant to have improved the original, but will the new FSX 2020 also have a steam edition? I have spent money on active sky for steam, which only works with steam (already feel cheated because they haven't updated it to the latest version.) This could Doofer very well be a bone of contention!

[@dtrjones]

I thought it was the opposite, Dovetail couldn't really improve FSX, only make it more efficient and fix bugs - but from a user perspective it's the same product albeit a bit more stable. Sorry to here about active sky. However I'm sure you could buy the free standing new version and look online how to integrate it with the steam version of FSX.

[@WayneM1961]

@@dtrjones Nice try, but the steam edition of Active sky will only work with the steam Edition of FSX SE. They make it very clear it would not work with the "boxed set" Yes, the FSX SE was more stable and bug free than the boxed version

[@normand5847]

It isn't going to be FSX.

[@Doofer911]

Potentially. My gut instinct is telling me that Microsoft will want to hold onto this new sim and it will be tied in with Xbox (as a gaming service) and/or the Microsoft Store. I don't think it will be available on Steam or any other online games store during the initial release.

[@WayneM1961]

@@Doofer911 I've no doubt you're right on this one. The real kick in the teeth though is I found out today that if I had brought the standard Active Sky through an outlet other than steam, that would work in all platforms including steam, but the steam version I brought will only work with SFX SE

[@Jet2Guy]

ok bois going back to fsx

[@michaelfarrell4824]

Sounding less blocked up now my dude :) here's to good health ;)

[@Doofer911]

Haha cheers! Slowly but surely getting there!

[@landscapeofthemind]

I think we are in for a right treat, that's what I think. Can't wait to go VR on this👍

[@ViewBothSides]

But is it a warmed-over FSX or a new product?

[@Aviakeen1]

Looks new to me.

[@fighterace284]

completely new product

[@johnstark4723]

Completely new.

[@Doofer911]

I believe it's a new product.

[@martf8014]

Are you for real?

[@meakphalla8185]

Dear sir or madam! I'd like to request you to demonstrate or guide me on how to instruct to startup, taxi, take off and land ATR plane cockpit with your instruction letters which the same to your A320 model demonstrations with the letter/text! Thank you so much for your help to my request!

[@Kreemerz]

It's gonna be for PC?

[@kosys5338]

yep

[@DysmasTheGoodThief]

I heard it was only confirmed for XboxOne

[@kosys5338]

@@DysmasTheGoodThief You heard wrong. It is designed for PC and will be optimized for XBOX. fsi.microsoftstudios.com/

[@lucasguerra2049]

@@kosys5338 r/woosh

[@jnbennett6496]

all my ORBX scenery is going to waste lol, cant wait till it comes out

[@tomtomm6129]

Same here+ aerosoft A320, PMDG and GSX:(

[@IntellectualHazard]

I so wished to have taken an Xbox rather than a PS4..My PS4 appears to have the processor chip misplaced and I need to get it repaired... My PC is weak too to run this Flight Simulator and at least an Xbox would've helped

[@Forgetthehorrorhere1]

Time is on your side my friend.

[@normand5847]

@Darkray Hahahahah. No....

[@johnstark4723]

Microsoft is working on projects with Sony now in a recent deal between the two to make software for games cross platform so you may just be in luck

[@johnstark4723]

@OfficialPanda they are also working together to make cross platform gaming possible. That's straight from Microsoft

[@johnstark4723]

@OfficialPanda yes they are working on it. Damn son pay attention

[@curvykirby3689]

Whats up with all these long comments LOL

[@04boogie-t14]

Might as well just stop talking about it cause you have a while before it comes out

[@Doofer911]

Nah.... I'm going to keep people informed during the development process.

[@WayneHermanproject]

REX is one. Notice the title "Environmental Force 3D" is currently not available for FSX, BUT is for Prepar3D. Why would it be "An Issue" with tell the FSX community that "They know we (the community) have concerns"? Microsoft is telling the community flat-out here - that WE HEARD you, and now (MS) will serve-up. Microsoft isn't being vague. They're being quite specific in terms. If a word is emphasized in all caps - the highest emphasis possible without adding distracting unprofessionalism, and gaudy exclamation point(s), it means what all caps mean. It's going to have the look and feel of P3D. This video just wasted my time. As did the previous one

[@Arya-ov3ke]

@Maher Justice Then why dont you fly yourself?

[@WayneHermanproject]

@Maher Justice The man needs some healthy criticism just like 'FlyBoy…" over there. Nether can see what's right in their face; and their screwing thins up for everyone with their blindness to what's right their in front of them. And it's pissing me off; and so are you.

[@Doofer911]

1. What's REX got to do with Microsoft Flight Simulator? I haven't mentioned it in any of my videos on this subject. 2. I did offer viewers the chance to go and read the article themselves early in the video. For those that didn't want to do that, I summarised the content of Microsoft's announcement during this video. If you chose to watch, you did so with your own volition. And if you didn't like the previous one, you knew what to expect with this one.

[@WayneHermanproject]

@@Doofer911 My purpose on KZbin is to criticize and "Play The Devils Advocate' I will never publicly agree on anything, but, on a personal level, I could fully agree. No harm meant. REX's 2019 release of 'Inviormenta Force 3D' is only available for P3D. Nothing for FSX or the Steam Edition. SEE??? What is gained if everyone agrees with something or criticism isn't provided? P.S. Start listening to your gut feeling, it's usually the right one. Your first impression is usually the correct one: MS Flight Simulator 2019 Thank you, Wayne Herman

[@Doofer911]

Ah ok, I wasn't aware of that REX product. I believe that developers are moving away from FSX (+ Steam Edition) and only developing for P3D nowadays.