Derren Brown vs 9 Chess Players

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Derren Brown

Derren Brown

Күн бұрын

Derren takes on 9 highly skilled chess players, including 4 Grandmasters of the game, all at once.
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@Devon297
@Devon297 8 жыл бұрын
"I've been familiarizing myself with your games, whats your name?"
@ayylmao3480
@ayylmao3480 8 жыл бұрын
xD
@davidpham4709
@davidpham4709 8 жыл бұрын
Dr Seuss status confirmed
@brianwurzburg1318
@brianwurzburg1318 8 жыл бұрын
Roflmeowz hahahaha I didn't even notice that
@MelodyLiuJade
@MelodyLiuJade 8 жыл бұрын
Roflmeowz lol I noticed that
@plasticbudgie
@plasticbudgie 7 жыл бұрын
well i believe he knew the name. it's merely good tv presenting, as it's better to hear a person introduce them selves, rather than derren do it for them.
@dextermanus
@dextermanus 9 жыл бұрын
'I've studied you all for a year. What's your name?' Haha this is too funny, and a wonderful illusion :)
@ROCdevelopments
@ROCdevelopments 8 жыл бұрын
+Nick Dijkstra I thought about that too.
@bullsquid42
@bullsquid42 8 жыл бұрын
+Nick Dijkstra Yup, that was brilliant xD
@JansenBaja
@JansenBaja 8 жыл бұрын
Right! didn't catch that till you mentioned it
@c0ven0323
@c0ven0323 8 жыл бұрын
+Nick Dijkstra He never said he studied them...
@user-iz2oj8dd6j
@user-iz2oj8dd6j 6 жыл бұрын
I think it's just so ingrained in his system to say "What's your name?" when he speaks to someone in the audience that he just does it automatically
@ChadeGB
@ChadeGB 9 жыл бұрын
And here's me not able to remember what i had for lunch yesterday.
@kimono7350
@kimono7350 8 жыл бұрын
+Mayyanatai what colour is the sky in your world, m8?
@conceptual0theorist
@conceptual0theorist 8 жыл бұрын
Kimono haha i was trolling ;)
@VosovioYTC
@VosovioYTC 8 жыл бұрын
+Kimono why? The sky's not florescent yellow in yours?
@po2randall
@po2randall 7 жыл бұрын
he is telling a lie when he said he couldn't remember how he got the number because he is the leader of the Illuminati *plays x files music*
@PaladinswordSaurfang
@PaladinswordSaurfang 6 жыл бұрын
Well yesterday is 24 hours ago, not 20 seconds ago.
@torush1xryke
@torush1xryke 7 жыл бұрын
Man, off by a trillion.
@ecxstasy347
@ecxstasy347 6 жыл бұрын
Man i’m dead xd
@realname631
@realname631 5 жыл бұрын
Took me a while
@Mrsilvercoo
@Mrsilvercoo 5 жыл бұрын
@@realname631 how?
@forestsunset9617
@forestsunset9617 5 жыл бұрын
lol
@ScottishPEACEguy
@ScottishPEACEguy 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@benoid4474
@benoid4474 8 жыл бұрын
4:27 what an awkward giggle xD
@axarabiotis
@axarabiotis 8 жыл бұрын
+XxSoreThumbGamesxX xD i was about to comment it
@Chh897
@Chh897 8 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@ericlee8638
@ericlee8638 8 жыл бұрын
Ser Davos racist
@ThePat1221
@ThePat1221 7 жыл бұрын
You lack appreciation for the finer points of bad behaviour...
@ThePat1221
@ThePat1221 7 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ it's Jason Bourne
@RandomTask
@RandomTask 9 жыл бұрын
he says his chess is 'shit' yet genuinely beats the president of the chess society. Bet that guy feels like shit having learned that!
@matthewbolan8154
@matthewbolan8154 9 жыл бұрын
Im president of a fairly large chess society. My rating is 1200. You dont need to be good to rule the good.
@RandomTask
@RandomTask 9 жыл бұрын
Being a non-chess player myself, I have no idea what that rating means. I suspect Derren was downplaying his abilities for effect.
@matthewbolan8154
@matthewbolan8154 9 жыл бұрын
cartti1000 it means 4 weeks of hard study will make you better than me.
@matthewbolan8154
@matthewbolan8154 9 жыл бұрын
+cartti1000 Oh yeah. Derren probably plays really well actually.
@mariusperiwinkle6587
@mariusperiwinkle6587 9 жыл бұрын
+Matthew Bolan I kind of suspect that the cheated somehow with the one "genuine" game. If he had lost the one game, the whole production would have to be scrapped, which probably would be too risky financially, as they would have to start from scratch and find 9 new very skilled chess players. Or he had a backup plan in case he lost. Some sort of twist, that would remove the focus on too some other aspect. I think he must have had an alternative endgame.
@20cnVision
@20cnVision 8 жыл бұрын
"Hey, I invited all of you just to prove that I can rek you easy in chess" What a gentleman.
@mapledoctor3915
@mapledoctor3915 8 жыл бұрын
1v1 me m8
@ThePat1221
@ThePat1221 7 жыл бұрын
9v1 me m9
@tyleremery7088
@tyleremery7088 5 жыл бұрын
"Congrats, you just played -yourself- that guy over there."
@Frank_Nemo
@Frank_Nemo 3 жыл бұрын
How the number prediction is done is shown at 6:18. It was a misdirection followed with the paper from the pocket being swapped for another, written after, in Derren's right hand. The later 'prediction' is then displayed with the original being hidden behind it. It also explains why the original prediction had the same first digit error as his whiteboard, he just remembered that wrong and it ended up on both. That swap took some serious skill.
@AlexRoseGames
@AlexRoseGames 2 жыл бұрын
the reason the first digit is "wrong" is because it was always 6, the guy's hand is holding that end of the paper the whole time and he can't swap it out. He sticks the rest of the paper onto that first sheet. So the 6 was always going to be wrong unless he just happened to get lucky. he lets the guy hold out the 6 which he knew would be a 6 because he already pre decided it would be a 6, then does a swap on the entire rest of the sheet
@DerMichael
@DerMichael 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexRoseGames Only that you can see the 5 at 6:16, not the 6...
@DerMichael
@DerMichael 2 жыл бұрын
At 6:18 the numbers are already correct. You can see 7 _ 611 and the 5 at the end flashes before that already, too. The swap has to happen sooner or during a cut.
@LucaBunny.
@LucaBunny. 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh interesting take
@curtiswatson4192
@curtiswatson4192 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexRoseGames I agree but i also think there's a clever psychological trick in getting the first number "wrong". by getting it wrong, the audience is more inclined to belive the authenticity that it was some amazing mind reading trick from Derren. If it was all completely correct, the general public would be likely to assume its too far fetched, but if one aspect is wrong they will think, "that part was wrong, so it can't be a trick, as a trick would result in perfection". It happens often in Derren's shows I've noticed, there's always one minor thing that "goes wrong" and lends authenticity to the illusion.
@AlbieW7
@AlbieW7 6 жыл бұрын
these players were some of the most polite and generally pleasant people I’ve seen
@alexanderturner6670
@alexanderturner6670 3 жыл бұрын
There are two types of English people. The rude ones and the polite ones
@jaylenlenear3944
@jaylenlenear3944 2 жыл бұрын
Hodgson was a bit arrogant
@NoodleBomber
@NoodleBomber Жыл бұрын
I agree
@TheGravityTurtles
@TheGravityTurtles 5 жыл бұрын
That one guy was like “I’ve been grand champion three times of course i won”
@9k49
@9k49 4 жыл бұрын
That guy (Julian Hodgson) is now 222nd in the world for chess (7th in England)
@ejstephens7918
@ejstephens7918 3 жыл бұрын
I mean he did beat a legitimately good opponent, just not the one he thought he did lol
@WD_Unieles
@WD_Unieles 8 жыл бұрын
Next stage: Derren Brown (with a nuclear weapon) vs United Nation
@nathanpalmer2581
@nathanpalmer2581 8 жыл бұрын
sanction him with their army, wait a minute they don't have an army then STFUP
@riotpoliceTRELL
@riotpoliceTRELL 6 жыл бұрын
Derren brown doesn't need a bomb to be a weapon lol
@manictiger
@manictiger 6 жыл бұрын
Joke's on you. They're actually nanite bombs and now there's a ring world around the sun that can comfortably house 2 trillion people, wildlife, oceans, etc. You thought I was going to destroy everything, but I deceived you and now there's nothing to fight over. There's more wealth than anyone could ever need in this lifetime! Checkmate!
@gezzarandom
@gezzarandom 5 жыл бұрын
I think the grandmasters felt a lot better when they found out they were really playing postal chess with each other 😂
@wolt3029
@wolt3029 Жыл бұрын
not number 9 :(
@julianhodgson1961
@julianhodgson1961 6 ай бұрын
Yep - we all had a pretty good idea of exactly what was going on - Derren was miked up - I’m not sure he even knew how the pieces moved - I knew within a couple of moves I was actually playing a friend of mine GM Chris Ward. I remember thinking at the time what an absolute fraud this all was so I assume that all of DBs stuff is equally fraudulent. I only found out a year or so later after the program aired how he won the ninth game. There was an IM in a far off room messaging him the moves. The IM was also using the top computer engine of the time to make sure he didn’t blunder. I know the name of the IM but obviously it’s not fair on him to reveal who it was. And finally I would agree that I did come off as a bit arrogant.
@SathvickSatish
@SathvickSatish 6 ай бұрын
@@julianhodgson1961oh damn, I knew something was off when he won against Robert. The guy mentioned that Derren played like a GM which was very surprising considering how Derren said that his chess was crap. So either Derren was lying about his chess skills or he used some external help. Unfortunately, i guess it was the latter.
@chessmanwriter12
@chessmanwriter12 2 ай бұрын
@@julianhodgson1961 That's so cool to hear you talk about what happened. I'm an NM so I've been curious about this for years. That's disappointing winning the 9th game was as simple as him being mic'd up like that. It sounds like he may have even needed to be mic'd up to remember the moves between the boards lol. The last part I wonder is how he did the trick with the numbers. Sleight of hand is definitely possible but seems difficult since it was from his inner coat pocket.
@manarhany8715
@manarhany8715 7 жыл бұрын
"as for how I predicted the numbers... I don't remember good night" this guy is a legit legend what a smart-ass
@ShadowViking47
@ShadowViking47 5 жыл бұрын
2:45 this dude 100% knew as soon as he just walked away without playing. No player would ever do that in a simul
@redpred3502
@redpred3502 6 жыл бұрын
I struggle to believe none of these players realised what was happening, especially when they're playing different colours with the other boards obscured from vision. They also don't seem surprised that Derren would go all the way around the circle before making his move on the opening turn. On top of the fact that this is an extremely well known chess trick for simultaneous games.
@ToxicatedLum
@ToxicatedLum 5 жыл бұрын
It's definitely believable in a tv setting, an odd environment and it's also why he has the number at the end.. no matter what they believe at the start it will be influenced by the number at the end.
@Shiba9870
@Shiba9870 5 жыл бұрын
ToxicatedLum maybe this is because its about 14 years old
@aaddiis45021
@aaddiis45021 5 жыл бұрын
Ya it's really well known I mean I found it myself (without knowing it's a common trick). And defeated fritz at max level.
@tombstoneharrystudios584
@tombstoneharrystudios584 5 жыл бұрын
The instant I saw this on the original TV show, I thought "He's doing the old Mirror Chess trick!" I was a member of my chess club at school and a mediocre one at that, but the Chess Club president was also the Mathematics Teacher and had shown us that technique as part of an end-of-term puzzle/trick. However, the pressure of being filmed, alongside with a whole load of other factors, might have meant that this slipped their minds. Or, they sort of guessed he was doing that trick, but went along with it for entertainment purposes. By the time Derren did the show he was already quite well known and not even chess grandmasters are immune to being starstruck!
@Diffusion8
@Diffusion8 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! They were literally blinded by the bright lights of TV and DB!
@BombDonald
@BombDonald 8 жыл бұрын
I feel like a GM would be quite skeptical after 1. e4 and their opponent simply walks away instead of playing a simple opening move.
@albertjurcisin8944
@albertjurcisin8944 5 жыл бұрын
Especially since according to the chess rules you cannot leave the table during your own turn.
@andrewsparkes8829
@andrewsparkes8829 5 жыл бұрын
@@albertjurcisin8944 He didn't leave any table until the turn was over, though.
@A11sopp
@A11sopp 5 жыл бұрын
@@albertjurcisin8944 You can leave the table whenever you want during chess matches. Strong players often wander around tournament halls and watch over games between moves.
@iterationzero5570
@iterationzero5570 5 жыл бұрын
Albert Jurcisin Thats not true. If you had played chess professionally for any amount of time you would know. Chess players can leave the board whenever they feel like it.
@BaldMancTwat
@BaldMancTwat 5 жыл бұрын
No, why would they be sceptical? It's a TV show where he plays 9 chess players at once. Of course he's gonna leave the table.
@samstevens6544
@samstevens6544 7 жыл бұрын
This is really one of my very favourite Derren routines and I adore the showmanship. "Please bear in mind, my chess is shit." "Uh, good evening"
@NeaEmrys
@NeaEmrys 6 жыл бұрын
Except his chess isn't shit. XD He's just lying his ass off.
@duanedibbley258
@duanedibbley258 6 жыл бұрын
Nea Emrys he’s telling the truth, his method isn’t what you think it is, Derren is a magician
@geniegen523
@geniegen523 8 жыл бұрын
The guy he played genuinely called him on par atleast with a grandmaster...
@saamspam6127
@saamspam6127 6 жыл бұрын
Genie Gen Given his memory, it wouldn’t surprise me if the dude is rated 1800 without any serious practice. I wouldn’t put him above that though
@NetAndyCz
@NetAndyCz 6 жыл бұрын
He is good chess player no magic trick to that. And he has excellent memory and practices that as well. It is no magic, it is just skill.
@SJNaka101
@SJNaka101 6 жыл бұрын
That's because he just watched the guy win against several grandmasters and also lost to him. So, in that moment, it definitely will feel like he's grandmaster level. But, if he analyzed the game later, I'm sure that he would find his opponent wasn't nearly as accurate as a grandmaster.
@hutchyy6836
@hutchyy6836 5 жыл бұрын
6 fth 1800 without practice? have you ever played the game lol
@pruke8720
@pruke8720 5 жыл бұрын
@Mikkel Grabinski he said his chess was shit lol chill
@tckchannel4435
@tckchannel4435 7 жыл бұрын
So the results were: Table 1: Graham Lee (Fide Master) drew Table 5: Desmond Tan (Former England Jr), Table 2: John Emms (Grandmaster) lost to Table 6: Jonathan Lewitt (Grandmaster), Table 3: Julian Hodson (Grandmaster ) won Table 7: Chris Ward (Grandmaster), Table 4: Paul Littlewood (International Master) won Table 8: Nathan Alfred (Fide Master), Table 9: Robert Chan (President of Chess Society) lost to Derren Brown.
@kkarx
@kkarx 6 жыл бұрын
The president should have handed in his notice for losing to an amateur or Derren did not have to do any tricks and might just play them all.
@mirjamheijn5214
@mirjamheijn5214 5 жыл бұрын
He was smart enough to put the grandmasters against each other, so that he would at least get 1 grandmaster win.
@gezzarandom
@gezzarandom 5 жыл бұрын
@@mirjamheijn5214 Or two stalemates lol.
@mirjamheijn5214
@mirjamheijn5214 5 жыл бұрын
@@gezzarandom at grandmaster level, two stalemates is statistically unlikely. And to be honest, 4 stalemates against grandmasters wouldn't look that bad.
@Ibegood
@Ibegood 5 жыл бұрын
@@mirjamheijn5214 I'm really late here, but stalemates are actually far more common at higher ELO's. Look up the TCEC Championship where they have computers with 3000+ ELO's play if you don't believe me.
@rami_ungar_writer
@rami_ungar_writer 9 жыл бұрын
Those are some incredible feats of memory right there.
@mewithmychick6960
@mewithmychick6960 6 жыл бұрын
Why?
@amanofculture4892
@amanofculture4892 5 жыл бұрын
@@mewithmychick6960 As long as you can remember the last 8 moves and not goof up, it's really easy. His sheer ability to fuck with people is out of this world, though.
@LaughingInfidel
@LaughingInfidel 5 жыл бұрын
He's a good player for real, so since he understands the moves, they'd be easier to remember than you might think.
@Jack-qp9ky
@Jack-qp9ky 5 жыл бұрын
“I genuinely cant remember” my arse
@kristofferlinden6306
@kristofferlinden6306 4 жыл бұрын
Read a book by dominic o'brien
@dabeveryday9991
@dabeveryday9991 3 жыл бұрын
no shit sherlock, have you ever thought about becoming a human lie detector? it would suit you perfectly
@Xyponx
@Xyponx 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta keep some secrets my guy, it'd be boring if we always knew how it worked ;)
@shawnlong4039
@shawnlong4039 4 жыл бұрын
This is why a true Simul (Simultaneous Exhibition) has 1 expert chess player playing White against everyone else with Black, so that you can't mirror moves like this (Seems like these GM's should have objected). Usually, White will make a move and go on to the next player and each Black player will wait for them to come back around so that the White player can see their opponent actually making the next move. Also, since it is indeed a challenge to play so many games at once, having the same color helps avoid confusion. Thus we end up with a better chess simul exhibition all around. This was still very clever and interesting. I don't know how he did the numbers. I think he might have switched out the papers by slight of hand at the end there. He tells the player whom had received the envelope before play commenced to now open the envelope. Notice that he starts touching the envelope at the same time as him and helping him. I think he switched it with a new one where he wrote down the correct number of remaining pieces and hid the other. (The one error, wrong number of remaining pieces, was done on purpose to add realism).
@AlexRoseGames
@AlexRoseGames 2 жыл бұрын
the remaining number wasn't done on purpose to add realism, it was done because that's where he made the swap at 6:17 . the guy's hand was always clasping on the left hand, he tells him "you just take that there" and lets him hold the 6. the 6 was always a 6, and that's why he "incorrectly predicts it", he literally just incorrectly predicted that one. the rest of the numbers he then affixes to the first sheet to make one long sheet that he is controlling and all the folds make it unclear where it was stuck on. every number other than the 6 he pushes, the 6 is the only one that was always in the envelope I don't know how he beat the other chess guy though without an earpiece. maybe something to do with the screens, or the cameraman somehow giving signals or something with another master off screen playing that game
@skycanth1969
@skycanth1969 8 жыл бұрын
Robert must feel really good knowing that he lost to a player who 'sucks' at chess.
@iamamazing1885
@iamamazing1885 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah you would have thought if Derren was actually terrible he would still lose to the weakest of those people
@oneeyedsleep4107
@oneeyedsleep4107 6 жыл бұрын
iamamazing ikr
@brdyyt6702
@brdyyt6702 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I would suggest that Darren is actually a very good chess player
@boliussa
@boliussa 3 жыл бұрын
@@iamamazing1885 DUDE he cheated against all of them.
@boliussa
@boliussa 3 жыл бұрын
@@brdyyt6702 Do you not know what a magician is. You are so gullible it's ridiculous
@LickNand
@LickNand 9 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite segments!
@dogsgottaloveem383
@dogsgottaloveem383 8 жыл бұрын
LOL, hes making them play eachother basically, that is wonderful
@RodZilla11
@RodZilla11 7 жыл бұрын
Amaya K That explanation does not adequately relay HOW he remembered each MOVE, given the complexity of world class chess strategy. There is no way, that a Grand Master followed a specific course that a novice would be able to navigate since two players at different tables would be responding differently.
@damianstarr1696
@damianstarr1696 7 жыл бұрын
you remember the position the piece lands on... not too hard is it? Derran isn't doing any of the strategic thinking apart from in game 9
@Devilofdoom
@Devilofdoom 6 жыл бұрын
David Rodgers I have no idea what you're on about. The complexity of the games is irrelevant. He only has to remember the one move from each table.
@christopherknight893
@christopherknight893 6 жыл бұрын
David Rodgers not sure if you’re still interested... BUT you should look up “Scam School The most epic chess scam of all time” if you don’t believe that is how he won a bunch of games
@gamerdio2503
@gamerdio2503 6 жыл бұрын
There have been Grandmasters who played multiple games at once
@Cream147player
@Cream147player 9 жыл бұрын
Knew there was something fishy about having a simple chess society president in amongst all these masters and grandmasters
@stephify
@stephify 7 жыл бұрын
hes not just a simple chess society president, hes still 2200 rating
@oms3752
@oms3752 7 жыл бұрын
Cream147player and
@declanesquire
@declanesquire 6 жыл бұрын
how the F*** did he beat someone with 2200 rating, he mustve used a computer
@joshuaslattery2416
@joshuaslattery2416 6 жыл бұрын
probably mimicked the strongest player till the game was different.
@mizofan
@mizofan 6 жыл бұрын
and then?
@Gemini535
@Gemini535 8 жыл бұрын
I spent a year studying you all for this, by the way whats your name again? lol
@nicbentulan
@nicbentulan 3 жыл бұрын
oh maybe it's plausible that derren brown didn't know them by face? i knew a guy in my alma mater's chess team or something, and he didn't know wesley so by face (i'm filipino). (of course derren brown just put them all against each other, so whatever. lol.)
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicbentulan I'm in the Philippines, but I'm from America. But I'm not Filipino.
@nicbentulan
@nicbentulan 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked i'm not in the philippines, but i'm filipino XD
@billmotley
@billmotley 5 жыл бұрын
I would have been well stunned if he had only demonstrated how it is hypothetically possible to pull off playing 8 masters against each other, with the difficulty being the need to remember each corresponding move. Getting it done floors me. Although the polished finish was astonishing, in order to show the number of all of the opponent's remaining pieces (well, almost all), he likely flipped to working his stage "magic" to accomplish that.
@_SliK_
@_SliK_ 3 жыл бұрын
Love how he left us hanging at the end about remembering the numbers lol😂
@travispickle7591
@travispickle7591 4 жыл бұрын
This entire show is like one big fever dream
@Mo_998
@Mo_998 9 жыл бұрын
12 years old content, and I still got this shit on a hard drive!
@PsychedbE
@PsychedbE 8 жыл бұрын
+Mahmood S ...Can"t ever catch up on downloading the whole internet anymore... everything is out there in kazillion formats n channels n clouds n backbones n ... NLP loop of madness.
@Mo_998
@Mo_998 8 жыл бұрын
Too right pal.
@Sorenbaa
@Sorenbaa 7 жыл бұрын
I will comment again on this in 12 see you until then
@themistysnowfield5095
@themistysnowfield5095 7 жыл бұрын
13 year content now
@chaytonarthur9984
@chaytonarthur9984 6 жыл бұрын
Garden tools is nice 11 more years
@Bobstew68
@Bobstew68 5 жыл бұрын
The pairing thing must've been incredibly obvious to the chess players at the time. Starting off by watching the first move of four tables without replying?
@AwkwardTurtle311
@AwkwardTurtle311 5 ай бұрын
I was told a story by a navy sailer who said a woman interrupted 2 chess masters on the ship asking to play, the old masters didn’t want to stop their game to teach/beat a beginner. So she challenged them both and bet that she could at least win 1 game. She ended up winning 1 game by copying 1 of her opponents responses and playing it against the other master. I’m happy to now understand that this story was more than just possible.
@corey613io
@corey613io 8 жыл бұрын
Wait what!? You're not gonna tell us how you got the numbers????
@alicjagryzbowski964
@alicjagryzbowski964 8 жыл бұрын
+corey yoo Magic *snort snort*
@ccccoooooollll
@ccccoooooollll 8 жыл бұрын
+corey yoo its fake dude, those grand masters arent so stupid and they should know at the first moves that he is mirrowing, no good chess player let the opponent move and then go away without moving, espically if it is the opening and you can actually respond very fast
@RunnyMoney6
@RunnyMoney6 8 жыл бұрын
How is it faked? Anyone could literally do this. He was mirroring the games so one of the had to lose and one had to win....
@ccccoooooollll
@ccccoooooollll 8 жыл бұрын
WristyTheMod its fake because the grandmasters are fucking actors, they are like "oooh how the fuck did he beat us? he is soooo goood" its just everything fucking acted and the thing with the paper is pure fake, for real there is no other way to explain how he got the numbers, i am professional chess player if you want to know it you can trust me
@RunnyMoney6
@RunnyMoney6 8 жыл бұрын
ccccoooooollll I think the only thing faked is the numbers but the logic in the chess playing was flawless. I don't care if you think you're a professional chess player, this video works out legit.
@DerGesellschaftskritiker
@DerGesellschaftskritiker 7 жыл бұрын
Krasses Experiment! Die Auflösung danach ist verblüffend und genial! :D Es waren 4 Großmeister in der Runde und Derren Brown konnte sich sämtliche Stellungen und Züge souverän merken und entsprechend die Züge wiederholen, er ist ein ausgezeichneter Magier und seine Magie kann er einen selbst im Schach spüren lassen ;). Einfach ein genialer Trick, die Großmeister unwissend gegeneinander spielen zu lassen!
@johnmcgurk1690
@johnmcgurk1690 5 жыл бұрын
I took part in a rehearsal of this in Warren Street in London in late 2003. I can tell you that in our rehearsal the exact same thing happened minus a couple of production issues with the crew. The main difference is that the number on the envelope was spot on, 9/9, in my case, and not 8/9 like here. Still figuring it out... As for the choice of players, I personally play a bit (I was contacted through a chess union) so I was avoided as the 9th player. My friend on the other hand introduced herself with " Nice to meet you, although I haven't played chess since I was about 3!" He had his 9th player identified right there
@arandombard1197
@arandombard1197 3 жыл бұрын
He swapped the letter at some point. It's quite straight forward when you think about it because there is no other physical way such a thing could be done. He even admitted he didn't play the game himself so it was impossible to influence the results (not that it would be particularly doable anyway.
@ianwebb6182
@ianwebb6182 2 жыл бұрын
They were probably all playing against a computer which forced endings that had the right number of pieces. Not an exact science but close enough to amaze people. It also needed to force equal number of wins/loses/draws to give the impression that he was playing the players against each other - which wasn't actually happening.
@jonfromtheuk467
@jonfromtheuk467 2 жыл бұрын
@@arandombard1197 Agreed - he simply switched the envelopes - he is a master pickpocket
@billygladman9644
@billygladman9644 6 жыл бұрын
4:29 that awkward laugh when you don’t get the joke..
@SanRemoMotelBar
@SanRemoMotelBar 5 жыл бұрын
"As for how I predicted the number of pieces left on each board; I genuinely can't remember." Nice touch.
@MAXIMUMv
@MAXIMUMv 2 жыл бұрын
I know there are opening patterns, but i dont believe every player would play the same mirror match perfectly the same allowing him to do this.
@Lugmillord
@Lugmillord 8 жыл бұрын
That's brilliant. He's basically for the most part just the mailman.
@joelrivardguitar
@joelrivardguitar Жыл бұрын
Grandmasters only think a few moves in advance. They just have crazy good intuition for what moves will work. Magnus Carlsen and Hikaru Nakamura both said this.
@jameshogge
@jameshogge 8 жыл бұрын
Called the trick with them playing each other!
@ianwebb6182
@ianwebb6182 2 жыл бұрын
This is clever, its like doing 2 tricks where the players know how he did the first one (winning the games by playing them against each other), and then a separate trick where he reveals the prediction. Whereas, its actually all just 1 trick where the first part was to send them down the wrong path so that the reveal is even more specular. Amazing showmanship
@harrymooney1305
@harrymooney1305 8 жыл бұрын
"Let me just remind you my chess is SHIT"' xD
@MrKockabilly
@MrKockabilly 6 жыл бұрын
In real chess simultaneous exhibition games, the exhibitor plays white and all the opponents play black precisely to avoid this kind of scam. There's no way these pro players wouldnt be alerted that something is amiss by the time they realize that about half of them would play white and about half would play black.
@javiersitoc4789
@javiersitoc4789 5 жыл бұрын
4:28 when your clingy GF tells you a joke and you don’t get it
@peterbucek2136
@peterbucek2136 8 жыл бұрын
That laugh at 4:29 lmao!
@darkmatterbeats6613
@darkmatterbeats6613 8 жыл бұрын
He Felt the Feels of hes Defeat.I think
@derrickbird1256
@derrickbird1256 8 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about Derren is how he explains how he does his demonstrations.
@peterbucek2136
@peterbucek2136 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah like into detail and never leaves out anything.
@AwsomeIceDragon
@AwsomeIceDragon 8 жыл бұрын
+Peter Bucek except the numbers....
@peterbucek2136
@peterbucek2136 8 жыл бұрын
+Dragon of magic You know that I was being sarcastic, right?
@AwsomeIceDragon
@AwsomeIceDragon 8 жыл бұрын
Peter Bucek Good for you mate.
@nikkichockawonga
@nikkichockawonga 8 жыл бұрын
+Dragon of magic lmao
@adamwolf2376
@adamwolf2376 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta respect making a vid 3 sec under the min ad revenue time even if he vid is pirated
@ctsirkass
@ctsirkass 8 жыл бұрын
My god. When I saw the title of this video I thought to myself "I hope this is not the old classic trick when you transfer the moves between boards!". Yeap, all chess players know this trick and you can bet the grandmasters knew even before the went there. When I saw that the opponents had different colours I immediately knew. You see, simultaneous games place all opponents on the same colour (usually black), just to avoid this little trick.
@g.dejong7804
@g.dejong7804 7 жыл бұрын
Christos Tsirkas You are a genius. Now fix the Greek financial crisis
@1001011011010
@1001011011010 7 жыл бұрын
G.B de Jong it's not too hard to guess especially when he said he wasn't that good
@Justin-so1xs
@Justin-so1xs 6 жыл бұрын
Christos Tsirkas And you think it’s that easy to play one actual game while also memorizing all the moves of the 8 others?
@meowlmeowl-gi4925
@meowlmeowl-gi4925 6 жыл бұрын
J Kooch66 if you do play chess it's not that difficult also, he was essentially memoring 4 games GMs or IMs can essentially play opponents blindfolded i.e., board in their mind so yeah its very possible and not that hard with practice
@martinconneally8756
@martinconneally8756 6 жыл бұрын
J Kooch66 it actually is pretty simple
@marcoprins4880
@marcoprins4880 5 ай бұрын
The fact that he beat a former England junior is equally impressive as the memory trick
@tekktori
@tekktori 8 жыл бұрын
and then they all just clapped at the end of the day because "hey, were still getting payed to be on cam"
@abhijeetsingh3871
@abhijeetsingh3871 3 жыл бұрын
here after ksm mentioned about him.. worth it
@Shroudey
@Shroudey 8 жыл бұрын
"This is all genuinely above board" so the secret lies beneath the board/table? ;D
@TheBiggerBongo
@TheBiggerBongo 6 жыл бұрын
Next up: The totally possible match of boxing with Derren Brown vs. Elvis Presely
@Tossphate
@Tossphate 5 жыл бұрын
During the post match interviews, the only played to specifically discuss derrens chess skill was r ninth player. All the others just talked about their own performance against their opponent "him". They would have known what was going on, but would have been fun for them anyway. Ultimately "what he did today was truly impressive" is correct
@insanezombieman753
@insanezombieman753 5 жыл бұрын
They're all paid. Its fake. When grandmasters play simultaneous matches with people, they make sure everyone has the same colour. They're chess grandmasters, man. They're not that stupid
@PlanetRockJesus
@PlanetRockJesus 6 жыл бұрын
Derren Brown is obviously a great chess player (but decided that chess would not be his #1 focus in life), but the envelope was passed to him surreptitiously after the sequence was printed out and enclosed in the envelope by the producers of this segment. Of course, any chance of that being seen was edited out of this program. He's not a psychic. He's a great magician, but one who is fantastic in his powers of observation.
@kerfuritogonzales
@kerfuritogonzales 5 жыл бұрын
"I genuinely can'y remember" I NEED ANSWERS
@arcade8078
@arcade8078 5 жыл бұрын
If I were to take a guess I'd say it's either all staged or those are just the most common ending numbers for chess games. In addition it's a single number so he's free to pick and choose the combinations of digits to form the remaining amount. Plus he's not going around in a circle when asking for the numbers, giving even more leeway for getting the right numbers. (Plus the mistake 6, though that could've also been there just to make it appear more real dunno)
@epsleon
@epsleon 4 жыл бұрын
Like he said at the start, he's been analysing their games for a year. Pair them off properly and you can predict the most likely outcome, since chess is a nearly solved game and you know what kind of playstyle they favour.
@ActionableFreedom
@ActionableFreedom 4 жыл бұрын
@@epsleon He was lying. Obviously he did not spend 1 year of his life doing that.
@9k49
@9k49 4 жыл бұрын
He probably memorised them all and found a way to get it onto the paper, but miscounted / misremembered the one he got wrong
@arandombard1197
@arandombard1197 3 жыл бұрын
Considering magic isn't real, he swapped the paper. No need for complicated solutions when the simplest will do.
@LoadPast
@LoadPast 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure chan was no pushover, to be able to keep all that information in his head AND play a game of chess at the same time seems almost more impressive than if he actually played the games straight up.
@linky0064
@linky0064 8 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, that's genius.
@sstevensuperbike9964
@sstevensuperbike9964 4 жыл бұрын
I was very good at chess when I was a kid.. I used to play at county level and used to beat all my mates, teachers and even the chess teacher at another school where I learnt to play chess after school in another village, it really is trying to remember the best possible move in any situation, there are so may different combinations, the first 4-6 moves lead you onto a specific chess game and within that game can be several mini battles on the board. When u meet a certain criteria with the pieces you know how to attack the hardest and smartest.
@harrybroughton4999
@harrybroughton4999 8 жыл бұрын
I think the number at the end was a bit more of a typical magic trick
@1001011011010
@1001011011010 7 жыл бұрын
MediumWave LongWave but how does that work I wonder
@maxnullifidian
@maxnullifidian 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was something along those lines, having read a novel by Sidney Sheldon in which the protagonist did something very similar, except with only two grandmasters.
@leodf1
@leodf1 4 жыл бұрын
On a cruise ship? 'If Tomorrow Comes' was the name. I didn't read the book but saw the TV movie.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 4 жыл бұрын
"As for how I predicted the number of pieces left on each board, I genuinely can't remember. Good night." Oh, come on, Derren! You're killing me here!
@AjaLuck
@AjaLuck 8 жыл бұрын
4:28 That Laugh U Make When Someone Tells A Joke About Ur Mom To U And U Want To Kill Them
@jaydenbaker5074
@jaydenbaker5074 9 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!!!
@john33333
@john33333 4 жыл бұрын
Do people commenting about mirror chess seriously not know the actual trick was getting the games to end with specific predicted numbers of opponent's pieces remaining on the board? Mirror chess was involved but would not explain that, which is the most impressive part. Derren Brown doesn't reveal his actual tricks.
@TheDom0
@TheDom0 8 жыл бұрын
He's had this of Columbo "the most dangerous match"
@painandmisery8971
@painandmisery8971 4 жыл бұрын
such a talented soul with devotion and curiosity trapped inside the dwelling of his dark thoughts.
@egretzhars9984
@egretzhars9984 8 жыл бұрын
Oh, the moment when you spend a whole year studying the work of a few people but you can't remember their names. Don't you just hate when that happens?
@KitsyX
@KitsyX 5 жыл бұрын
He could have studied the moves and names, but not their pictures lol That or their appearance could change somewhat since pictures or footage was taken... But yeah, it was a bit odd.
@oldchannel2994
@oldchannel2994 5 жыл бұрын
Derren : Going to play with my own tactics Chess Player's: ah shit here we go again
@Arenki1992
@Arenki1992 4 жыл бұрын
Someone has an explanation how he predicted the numbers of chess pieces left on each board?
@fiieeldy
@fiieeldy 2 жыл бұрын
I told him what the outcome would be. I taught him all his moves
@animationeverywhere
@animationeverywhere 5 жыл бұрын
The trope that better chess players see further ahead is ridiculous. There are near infinite combinations. Yes if you know a lot of opening theory or there is a forced sequence you can see lots of moves ahead, but this is not on a consistent basis.
@johnking5174
@johnking5174 9 жыл бұрын
2:55 - Right, this guy here actually weathers a leather glove to play chess, why?
@tombstoneharrystudios584
@tombstoneharrystudios584 5 жыл бұрын
If he knew he was going to be on TV maybe he chose to do that to stand out Maybe they told him too! Ot maybe he has hand problems/issues (like eczema) and prefers to hide his hands
@wiiremote7976
@wiiremote7976 4 жыл бұрын
So he doesn't spread the coronavirus
@aguyishappy3988
@aguyishappy3988 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a pretty cold studio, he doesnt exactly look young tbh
@AEQEA
@AEQEA 2 жыл бұрын
In 1920, Milady played chess with several bored apes at once. She won every single game.
@gigglysamentz2021
@gigglysamentz2021 5 жыл бұрын
I once played copied my opponent's movs at go (symmetry through the centre) cuz I do't know how to play go. We both had a great time!
@tombstoneharrystudios584
@tombstoneharrystudios584 5 жыл бұрын
pretty much how i blagged my way into chess club the first time!
@walsh632
@walsh632 5 жыл бұрын
3 years on. Dunno why I’m watching this at 4 am. But thanks KZbin
@finmid9186
@finmid9186 5 жыл бұрын
Iove how authentic he is even including his mistake
@Trimza42
@Trimza42 6 ай бұрын
Those masters were just getting their 15 minutes of fame, in any simultanious match the challenged plays white on all boards. I'm sure they knew that and knew what was going on.
@Xsector360
@Xsector360 8 жыл бұрын
I had an advert for a chess app before this XD
@Mitjitsu
@Mitjitsu 6 жыл бұрын
This is why in a simultaneous match. The person playing the multiple games always plays with the same colour, which is usually black.
@m4rv2n
@m4rv2n 8 жыл бұрын
Just off the top of my hat. He makes them play each other by copying their moves.
@santishorts
@santishorts 3 жыл бұрын
IM Jovanka Houska yesterday during the broadcast of the New In Chess Classic finals (day 1) suggested to have known that Derren had help from someone or some-"thing" during that last game. If you are getting help from a chess engine (far stronger than any human since about 2005) you don't need an earpiece.
@FightScienceAa82
@FightScienceAa82 8 жыл бұрын
Very, very, crafty. Impressive
@OcarinaIsGaming
@OcarinaIsGaming 6 жыл бұрын
I love that. The trick worked so simply, and... it just makes me happy.
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an avid chess player with an expert rating (just below the master level) and this is absolutely incredible in the truest sense! By far, one of the best illusions/ricks I have ever. Great job!!
@brandonmartin-moore5302
@brandonmartin-moore5302 5 жыл бұрын
Nevermind the fact that they all apparently would have known the trick before, the most annoying thing about this clip is the god-awful bloom-heavy lighting. Marks it out as a product of its time, but ouch my eyes.
@billygowhoop
@billygowhoop 6 жыл бұрын
How's he win the one legit game? That still seems pretty impressive to beat a real chess player while having no experience.
@calvinengime816
@calvinengime816 6 жыл бұрын
He cheated, of course. He really was wearing an earpiece (which nobody was invited to check for), or he had something in his pocket buzzing in Morse code, and someone was giving him moves chosen by a computer. The same person probably kept track of the moves played in the other games. If he loses the ninth game, the trick is a flop. No professional magician would take the chance that such a crucial part of the trick could go wrong.
@mick727xd
@mick727xd 5 жыл бұрын
Calvin Engime he didn’t. He just copied the moves of the previous player. In other words, they were playing against eachother. Derren didn’t play at all. Therefore he’s going to split wins and losses.
@PutonyourSundayBests
@PutonyourSundayBests 5 жыл бұрын
@@mick727xd Pay attention to the video man. There are an odd number of games. They all play each other except for the chairman of King's College Chess Society, who Derren claims to have legitimately played and beaten.
@billygowhoop
@billygowhoop 3 жыл бұрын
@@calvinengime816 I mean that's possible. I don't think that's really Derren's style though. But magic tricks generally have a very disappointing explanation. I'm just a bit doubtful of that one.
@MarcusMusique
@MarcusMusique 8 жыл бұрын
nice freemason thumb over the knuckle handshake @2:43 lol. Highly relevant on the black and white chequered board too. ;)
@xxx_khz_optic_xxx9575
@xxx_khz_optic_xxx9575 5 жыл бұрын
This man could take over the world and we wouldn’t know
@blucat4
@blucat4 Жыл бұрын
Ahh, that's already happened, there are a lot more people like Derren and much better, running things.
@rebeccabode8764
@rebeccabode8764 5 жыл бұрын
Wait till the end. the way he did it is absolutely brilliant...
@brinx8634
@brinx8634 8 жыл бұрын
In real simultaneous play, the challengers all play the same colour, generally black.
@sagov9
@sagov9 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, and they also don't have to respond right away, they get the full cycle to think about their move.
@GreenApple968
@GreenApple968 5 ай бұрын
I tried this online once. I played two games simultaneously where I was the white pieces in one game and the black pieces in the other game. The difficulty was set to the level of that of a chess master. The two games ended in a draw. Just goes to show significant technique is.
@365reece
@365reece 8 жыл бұрын
There was a chess advert before this...
@Misxrable
@Misxrable 6 жыл бұрын
Reece Turner we all care so, so, much
@Skumshi
@Skumshi 5 жыл бұрын
4:27 that is the laugh of disappointment
@jiweep
@jiweep 8 жыл бұрын
the paper that he wrote in the beginning was quickly written and close together, like writing a signarture. The paper at the end was very far apart and neatly written which means that he switched it during the games, or this whole thing is fake. (I don't see why it would be though besides beating one of the players with his own skill. I mean the guy even said he was as good as a grandmaster so thats pretty hard to believe)
@Sal13414
@Sal13414 8 жыл бұрын
+jiweep No that was the envelope the paper was in.
@jiweep
@jiweep 8 жыл бұрын
***** oops, it still doesn't explain how he beat the one guy and the guy even said he was at the level of a grandmaster though
@jiweep
@jiweep 8 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah but the host even said that his chess was shit and if the other guy is the leader of a chess club he must be skilled at the game, so I doubt that it actually happened. Like I said before too, he said he was at the level of a grandmaster as well
@1001011011010
@1001011011010 7 жыл бұрын
jiweep He explained how he played grandmasters. Table 9 wasn't GM level
@ANOOPBAL
@ANOOPBAL 6 жыл бұрын
He switched the paper at the end. You can see him trying very hard to grab the paper from the other guy before he opens it.
@wido4306
@wido4306 5 жыл бұрын
top 10 asmr videos of history
@williamcervetti92
@williamcervetti92 4 жыл бұрын
This may be the most calculatedly brilliant strategizing I have ever seen. It required a clear head and an outstanding memory, which Darren has developed, but even more amazing that his grandmaster level playing was that none of these Grandmasters showed an inkling of figuring out how he managed to put himself on a level exactly even with theirs__because he as he said, tricked them into playing against each other.
@ianwebb6182
@ianwebb6182 2 жыл бұрын
He wanted to make them think he tricked them into playing each other as a distraction from how he actually did it.
@blucat4
@blucat4 Жыл бұрын
@@ianwebb6182 Ahh, so how did he actually do it?
@thevoidlord1796
@thevoidlord1796 5 жыл бұрын
These titles sound more like cults that chess players.
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